The answer is easy, it is the best form of government to produce national wealth. There is not a single, nor a couple of go to authorities on the subject of which nation has the HSL/ best quality of life(BQL), but they all seem to come down to the same countries topping their lists. Those countries, Norway, Sweden , Finland, the Netherlands, the Swiss ect are always at the top. The US is in their about 7- 10th in most lists with Australia placing 1-7th. The Us keeps its position through deficit financing at 1.6 Trillion a year and with the advantage of its currency being used as the world’s currency.
How did these socialist countries, that have sustainable economies, obtain the HSL/BQL’s for their people?
First,and at the heart of it, the question of growing their economies mostly took a back seat to SL issues. The historical record on this is glaring. As these socialist countries rejected what Italy, Britain, Ect embraced- Corporatism under the banner of free markets. The SL grew for the socialists and with bigger deficits the others faded. Also, the debate on war within these socialist style political regimes was much more intellectual because of the socialist nature of the government.
These countries use smart tariffs, to protect their standard of living.Their model for economic success depends on a middle class driven economy. Look at the results, and sustainable.
The main obstacle to preventing war and achieving the HSL is corporatism. Look at your most important issues, you will likely find a large corp or group of large corporations manipulating the situation against your interests.
Here we believe that the transfer of wealth happened in spite of the federal government instead of being fully facilitated by the federal government, and advocate for more federal gov, despite the facts- or that it just needs to be fixed, must be fixed,can be fixed – but every fact is against that happening.
If you think you can have Obamney or even a couple more years with a competition centered around who can be more like Bush, Bigger MCI, more war and not collapse the dollar, you will be proven wrong and the nightmare that awaits on the other side of that collapse will be epic.
The question this post is premised on is the right question to ask. That anyone would advocate that people who support cutting 500 billion from wars and warmongering and closing down Federal Agencies that are part of the conduit of the Federal Government’s transfer of wealth to the 1%,are wacky vs those that have never looked to see if closing down those agencies made sense, would not be able to intellectually defend keeping those agencies, but would just say it is wacky, ending the wars not important, but would be hard pressed to show those savings through domestic cuts, especially if it is wacky to cut fed agencies.
Progressive support for Big federal gov will preclude any movement towards socialist policies. See the last 30 years. Where Montana and Vermont get single payer under State’s rights and you will never get it at the fed level- as designed and the list goes on, just more wackyness



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I think Ron dismisses this argument from his mind by pointing out Europe is white he is after all a racist with his own newsletter. I am sure he believes that if only America were all White America’s life span numbers would rise.
Ron does not seem to notice that Hispanic immigrants who don’t get healthcare except in emergency rooms live longer than Whites with healthcare.
America’s Private For Profit Healthcare System is so bad illegal immigrants with no healthcare live longer than people with healthcare. With 1 in 10 African Americans going to prison I wonder how much that lowers their lifespans?
Mortality
Though they are often at lower socioeconomic standing, most Hispanic groups, excepting Puerto Ricans, demonstrate lower or equal levels of mortality to their non-Hispanic White counterparts.[12] The Center for Disease Control reported in 2003 that Hispanic’s mortality rate was 25 percent lower than non-Hispanic whites and 43 percent lower than African Americans.[13] This mortality advantage most commonly found among middle-aged and elderly Hispanics. The death rates of Hispanics to non-Hispanic whites was found to exceed 1.00 in the twenties, decreases by age 45, then is severely reduced to 0.75-.90 by at age 65, persisting until death. When controlling for socioeconomic factors, the health advantage gap for Mexican Americans, the largest Hispanic population in the US, increases noticeably.[14]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_paradox#Mortality
The problem is, those few good results are the tip of an iceberg only – they cannot be taken as the full result of Ron Paul’s selfish, racist, hypocritical, religionistic and quasi-libertarian ideology. The rest of the iceberg will inevitably lead to savage feudalism and the end of civilization.
Is this a joke?
You changed topics halfway through.
“The main obstacle to preventing war and achieving the HSL is corporatism. Look at your most important issues, you will likely find a large corp or group of large corporations manipulating the situation against your interests.”
Some progressives insist Paul is a corporatist. Ralph Nader disagrees:
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/ralph-naders-grand-alliance/
Nader – “Libertarians like Ron Paul are on our side on civil liberties. They’re on our side against the military-industrial complex. They’re on our side against Wall Street. They’re on our side for investor rights. That’s a foundational convergence…”
Nader again from the article: “Ron Paul has always been anti-corporate, anti-Federal Reserve, anti-big banks, anti-bailouts,” Nader says. “I mean, they view him in the same way they view me on a lot of these issues.”….
Mr unregulated free market is with us progressives?
There are good arguments against overegulation, but no regulation is a corporate wet dream.
No. Owning the congress and writing their own legislation is a corporate wet dream. It is also their waking reality. That is corporatism and that is what Ralph Nader and Ron Paul oppose.
Is Ron for public financing of elections?
Reinstating glass steagall?
Breaking up too big to fail?
Public financing of elections? No.
Reinstating Glass Steagall? I would think not but I don’t know.
Breaking up to big to fail? Yes but more like let them fail than break them up.
jabade knows Paul on the issues much better than I. Or you could Google around and see for yourself.
Nader is not suggesting that Paul is a progressive. He is suggesting a Progressive/Libertarian alliance against the corporatist uniparty.
JBade
If/When Ron Paul does not get the Republican primary, we are waiting for you in the Rocky Anderson campaign.
Peace
Democrats and Republicans bipartisanly oppose accountability for the banksters and corporatists, while libertarians insist that they should suffer “the discipline of the market.”
Yes, it is a joke. Like everything this Paultroll puts up.
This only proves Nader has not read Paul’s legislation, workingclass – nothing more. I think it’s interesting that after I pointed you toward it, you thanked me for attacking Paul’s record – but still find you can support his slimy, corporation-kissing ass.
Yeah, you could search all over the Internet. Or, you could just READ THIS.
Please, the preferred term is “Ronbie.”
Ron Bie is my brother’s name!
I read your list of Ron Paul bills again. No mention of public financing of elections or Glass Steagall or breaking up of to big to fail.
I sincerely doubt that Nader is unfamiliar with RP’s record.