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Very entertaining. They necessarily avoid the MSM moderator. At times they both mock her, and rightly so.
On health care Stewart allows Bill to ridicule single-payer healthcare as deeply flawed,using Canada as an example. Jon’s failure to respond was disheartening. the canadians who live 6 years longer on average and voted in a national referendum to crown king the man perceived as instituting universal heathcare. who’s prime minister promised NO U.S. style reforms when looking to tweak their system. Jon allowed the the dishonest assertion that Canadians are flocking to the US in droves for surgeries that can not be had in Canada-bullshit! at 50g’s for knee surgery these are “very wealthy Canadians-and the Canadians know that, that bull only sells down here. If the canadians used 18% of their GDP on healthcare their would need to use gold-plated bed pans(about 12%)
that Stewart is the best we have,sad—-
but all in all Jon put it on Fox’s best rep-enjoy
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I was lucky enough to see it last night; I thought it was great. Would vote for either of them over Obama or Romney. Was looking for coverage today on Huffington Post and elsewhere, and I have to say I’m really disappointed. Pretty much it’s all Jon Stewart, like “Jon Stewart’s Best Lines from O’Reilly Rumble”: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/07/jon-stewarts-best-lines-from-oreilly-rumble_n_1946576.html
Entertainment Weekly’s Popwatch has a poll: Who won? in their “Top 10 lines from O’Reilly/Stewart debate” post: http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/10/06/jon-stewart-bill-oreilly-rumble-top-lines/ . Right now it’s 80.17% for Jon Stewart and 19.83% for Bill O’Reilly.
But they didn’t have the option I wanted to choose: We did.
Or, a little more complicated: They both did, so we did.
Nowhere in the “best lines” choices is the one I would have chosen, which was from Stewart, and it had to do with what’s gone wrong with us now is that we’ve lost the ability to problem solve together. Onstage you could imagine that they both could problem solve together.
Just the overall feel of the thing was great. Neither was soft on the other, but there was a sense of fun to it. And affection. And reason. Somehow that’s the way I think it’s supposed to be. I got to see, I think, why Stephen Colbert calls Bill O’Reilly “Papa Bear”. And O’Reilly got to separate himself out from his designated identity as Republican shill when he said Romney wouldn’t come on his show to be interviewed by him.
I know we’re supposed to divide and hate each other. But it seems to me maybe we’re supposed to be who we are, different, and love each other. That’s what I think I saw. And I loved it.
A disappointment: The exclusivity of it. Pay and don’t share.
Last disappointment: Nobody asked the debaters, why aren’t you running? Or said the obvious: I’d rather vote for you than the candidates we’re given.
One thing that gets overlooked in these debates is that Canadian health care is a triage-based system.
You fall down the stairs and break your hip? You will have a new hip within 2 weeks.
Your hip is giving you pain and making it difficult to walk? You’re going to have to wait a few months, because other people keep falling down stairs. (If you want it sooner, fall down some stairs)
People who can afford to shell out 50K to get it done right away will go to the U.S. or Mexico and get it done right away, because they don’t want to deal with the pain.
But outcomes are excellent. My dad fell down the stairs and broke his hip and got it replaced within 2 weeks and now his hip is better than ever. My brother fell off his bike and broke his hip and got it replaced within 2 weeks and he’s back to normal again.
(I am trying to avoid breaking my hip because I like my hip)