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A couple of weeks ago, in comments on various blogs, I threw out the notion that it was time to start a Dump Obama movement. It stirred up a variety of responses:
The move is premature.
We need to concentrate on further exposing Obama first.
The masses aren’t yet ready.
We need to overthrow the entire system, not just Obama.
Congress is a worthier target.
Republicans are worse.
As well, a significant number of folks were either intrigued or downright enthusiastic.
Since then, I have seen a growing stream of posts illuminating the extent to which Obama has been initiating right-wing policies which can in no way, shape or form be blamed on his inability to control a Republican-dominated Congress, among the best being Glenn Greenwald’s “The profound mystery of the ‘enthusiasm gap’ “. Especially interesting was a September 8 piece by FireDogLake’s Jon Walker "Why Should I Care? Leaders Lack Good Reasons to Vote For Democrats – or Against Republicans”, in which he attempts a hardball analysis of the consequences of a Republican takeover of Congress, noting:
I’ve been told for two years a mere 59 Democrats in the Senate are powerless due to the filibuster; by this same logic, we have nothing to fear from Republican gains because they will never be able to get anything through a Democratic filibuster, and even if they do, Obama can veto it … Talk of how a segment of Republican candidates favors privatizing Social Security or eliminating Medicare does demonstrate that they are out of touch with mainstream America, but in all honesty there is zero possibility that either move would come about as a result of Republican action alone, with or without winning narrow control of the House.
At the same time, the din of hysterical “Republicans will eat middle-class babies” articles and comments are becoming a steady chorus, as erstwhile radicals clarify their loyalties.
Timing is everything. It is time to develop a tactical focus to our discontent. Now is the time to begin a Dump Obama movement.
I hold to the following:
(1) The excuse that Obama is any kind of liberal but held hostage by congressional Republicans is completely bankrupt. Further exposure of Obama is helpful but in no way a precondition for a Dump Obama movement.
(2) Enough people would support a Dump Obama movement to give it, not an immediate majority, but critical mass.
(3) Dump Obama gives the left (broadly defined) a bully pulpit not readily available elsewhere, an opportunity to focus a wide array of political forces — populist, progressive, radical — that would normally not be able to work together.
(4) The 2012 presidential primaries provide progressives with an existing structure for a Dump Obama movement.
(5) The argument that our primary concern must be to prevent a Republican takeover is bankrupt and worse, a public menace.
(6) The key concept at this point is building a movement, not coming to agreement on a candidate or specific organizational vehicle (timing is everything).
Obama is no innocent hostage
(1) Obama could end Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell as commander-in-chief, in practice if not through legislation. But his Justice Department is defending it against a REPUBLICAN challenge.
(2) Obama didn’t have to cut a pre-election deal with the healthcare industry precluding bargaining over drug prices, imports from Canada, and a public option.
(3) Obama could close Guantanamo as commander-in-chief.
(4) Obama could renounce George Bush’s claim on dictatorial presidential powers, including assassination of American citizens, rather than extending them.
(5) Obama could order his Justice Department to prosecute Bush era war criminals.
(6) Obama could end the war in Afghanistan as commander-in-chief, ending the slaughter of wedding parties.
(7) Obama could use his powers to make recess appointments to give progressives such as Dawn Johnsen a foothold in his administration.
(8) Obama could end the Catfood Commission he insisted on after it was REJECTED by Congress.
(9) Obama could simply veto any extension of the Bush tax cuts for the rich, rather than pointedly refusing to promise to do.
(10) Obama could use the bully pulpit for so many causes, rather than cower in front of a Congress that has 59 senators.
My fingers grow weary, but others could add to this list.
”Hey hey, LBJ, how many kids did you kill today?”
Lately, I’ve been seeing references (mostly disparaging) to the Dump Johnson movement of 1967-68. Critics of Obama, when not Nader-baited, are tarred with that brush. It is fascinating that Obama defenders are the ones recalling the Dump Johnson movement. Nervous?
In 1967, protest against the war in Vietnam was running high, with massive demonstrations and widespread turmoil. The focus was on the government, the system, and Lyndon Johnson. It was not couched in Democrat vs. Republican terms, and a major element of the debate within the left was whether to participate in electoral politics at all. Liberal Senator Eugene McCarthy, an early critic of the war, determined that there was sufficient base for running against Johnson in the primaries in 68. After he scored 42% of the vote in the New Hampshire primary, Johnson dropped out. At that point, Bobby Kennedy dropped in, and was seen as the likely Democratic Party nominee. Except for him being shot and killed.
The nod went to Vice President Hubert Humphrey, a solid example of the species “cold-war liberal.” He was rightly seen as a Johnson stooge, and the police riot against the McCarthy people at the Chicago convention didn’t help. The left was less than whole-heartedly supportive of Humphrey, and Nixon narrowly won.
(1) The left was “credited” with throwing the election to Nixon.
(2) The left was credited with ending the war in Vietnam, however long it dragged on under Nixon.
Electoral ins-and-outs aside, it is clear that Johnson’s war policies (which generated the protests) led to the election of Richard Nixon. What a fucking shame. Let’s examine the equation.
We ended up with Richard Nixon, who while performing any number of villainous acts ended the draft, and gave 18-year-olds the vote. His policies were a grudging continuation of the liberal welfare state. After committing unspeakable crimes against the Vietnamese people, he pulled the U.S. troops out of Vietnam.
The war in Vietnam turned out to be a massive blow to the American economy, with 55,000 dead U.S. troops, as Johnson tried to pursue both guns and butter. And by the way, the war was directly responsible for the deaths of one million Vietnamese combatants, two million Vietnamese civilians, and one million Cambodians. That’s 4,000,000 people. That’s approaching serious Holocaust numbers
We rightly bemoan the 5,000 Americans killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. But that’s an 800 to 1 ratio, people! Eight hundred to one! EIGHT HUNDRED TO ONE! (sorry) But according to some lights, the left should have chilled out on the war lest it elect a Republican. So much for simple humanity.
So let’s deal with the “lesser evil thing” head-on
After all, both progressives and the general public get hung up on this.
The Walker piece is particularly interesting, as he makes a cogent argument for the difference between Democrats and Republicans being insignificant. I happen to have serious disagreements with the foundation of the piece. He ACCEPTS a variation of the question “which is worse,” Democrats or Republicans, and argues that the difference is insignificant based on how a Republican win of Congress might play out. For instance, George Bush was unable to slash Social Security due to, among other things, staunch Democratic Party opposition. But Obama might be able to gut Social Security because he could disarm much of the Democratic opposition and — in alliance with the Republicans — ram it through. In a different vein, Obama’s veto pen could thwart any number of Republican initiatives. Thus the left is free to campaign for what it actually believes in, and can play hardball with Democratic candidates, because actual collateral damage would be minimal.
This analysis is far superior to the simplistic comparison of Democratic vs. Republican programmatics. But it leaves us terribly vulnerable.
In other words, Walker still accepts that dualistic framework. And who controls the choices ultimately controls the fight. Suppose Obama performed one good deed while the Republicans started open advocacy (rather than Obama’s covert encouragement) of war with Iran? Strategy would have to be re-evaluated every time someone made a speech. Who’s better today? Well, that’s no way to run either a railroad or a revolution.
At the risk of still being schematic, let’s add another factor equation: What is good for the movement, or what is good for the left? The left has been making these lesser-evil choices for generations, and I have to say that things are going badly. The point now is not to support the Republicans, or to secretly hope they win, but to build a populist progressive movement on our own terms, without being overdetermined by their partisan definition of the battlefield.
The “do you want to elect a Republican” logic is corrosive, deadly for progressives, rots out our souls on a vast array of issues. Afghanistan is now Obama’s war. Opposition to the war is opposition to Obama’s policies. It can only diminish Obama’s support at the base. Whether a little or a lot is beside the point. Given the current frenzy over the congressional elections, ANY diminishing of Obama’s stature can invoke the Republican menace. Shut up on the war.
Outcry over the BP oil spill might remind us that Obama had been fine with offshore drilling, and that Obama has been covering up the extent of the damage and shielding BP. Should progressives now shut up about this lest it harm the Democrats in November?
The Democrats hate discussing the abortion issue, lest it cost them votes. Should pro-choice advocates now shut the fuck up?
Should demanding jobs and extended benefits for the unemployed be shelved, since unemployment is now a Republican talking point?
Should gay leadership now lay off the DADT thing, etc., etc.
Once that logic is accepted, it seeps like poison into the groundwater, corrupting everything for miles around. It is poison for the left. It deadens every progressive issue.
Even if we reject lesser-evil logic, however, does specifically building a Dump Obama movement further the progressive cause?
The public has to be brought in
Put yourself in the place of Jane or John Q. Public. You know the system sucks, you are out of a job, and here are your choices:
(1) Government could create millions of jobs rebuilding our infrastructure, our safety net, etc., and using any means necessary that things keep running if mass capital tries to sabotage our lives.
(2) Cut taxes for the richest corporations, in the desperate hope that they will use their profits to at least create a few more jobs.
Choice #1 is obviously preferable. You know Wall Street has totally fucked us. BUT, if you are convinced that Choice #1 is not an option (Obama’s $50 billion infrastructure plan is hopelessly inadequate), then what else can you do but say, "well, we gotta give #2 a chance," and if trashing some ethnic or religious group helps my odds, sad but …
They’ve done a pretty good job convincing folks that #1 is off the table. Even the left and the blogosphere seem to have given up, seriously uncomfortable with the notion of "using any means necessary" to accomplish, well, anything. The blogosphere sounds very angry. Keeps exposing the details of which everyone already knows in the broad strokes. But the Democrats know they can break any promise with impunity. No consequences.
As I’ve said many times, exposing what is already exposed but doing more of it fits the classical definition of insanity (doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result).
There has to be a tactic. If there is nothing you can do, or do in concert with your neighbors, then you have to accept what is offered, however inadequate. We have to deliver consequences.
Dump Obama is a tactic. It is a tactic whether or not it succeeds in ousting Obama. It offers an alternative to the Republicans AND pressures the Democrats. If the Democrats are then too stupid to respond to that pressure, I will not be held hostage to THEIR stupidity.
The merits of Dump Obama for building a movement
Some have argued that Dump Obama is too simplistic. But in fact its simplicity is its beauty.
Progressives are constantly bemoaning that the masses can’t grasp their complex analytical arguments, their profound understanding of the system. Masses are too easily swayed by slogans, all that. Dump Obama is a nice slogan and fits on a bumper sticker in real big letters.
Many progressives have issues dear to them, and the blogosphere reflects that diversity. Diversity is fine, but so is unity. Obama is, among other things, a symbol of the government, not just a symbol of the Democratic Party. He can “unify” our progressive opposition.
Dump the system? Sure. Go after the Senate? Why not? Go after the Republicans? If we advance progressive issues, they will not escape our ire.
The presidential primaries provide a vehicle to express that opposition. Can Obama be beaten there? Probably not. The incumbency is a powerful tool. But McCarthy didn’t “beat” Johnson either. Still brought him down.
Here it is worth making a comparison with 1967. There was substantial ferment that year, which provided the foundation for people to go “Neat and clean for Eugene.” Bobby Kennedy waited until McCarthy had laid the groundwork for him to enter the race. He was accused of opportunism, rightly so. Today, there is no such corresponding movement. At the same time, discontent is much wider than it was in 1967. In 1967, people broadly believed in America. Today, they’re just stuck in America. The disparity between anger — including anger at the system — and organized protest is immense, stunning, potentially volatile. While the level of open protest is small, the hysteria that any protest generates is totally out of proportion.
Some have argued that it is “too early” for raising the Dump Obama banner. Because the base isn’t there. Au contraire. One of the weaknesses of the Dump Johnson movement was that it basically opportunized off the movement, did not last beyond 1968. It was in fact, in some ways, the right wing of the movement. Today, given the weakness of the movement, Dump Obama would stake out the left wing. And by moving to get ahead of the curve, we might be able to deal better with the various candidates that will surely jump into the fray in 2011, whether from progressive or opportunistic motives. The base is there but not organized, because it falls by default under the rubric of the Democratic Party.
The word is Movement
Note that I call for a Dump Obama movement, not a campaign committee, not a candidate. (Dennis Kucinich? Russ Feingold? Jane Hamsher? Who knows?) Nor does a Dump Obama movement have to confine itself to the primaries, when independents make up a third of the electorate. I assume there will still be a general election. It’s a matter of timing. All these questions and more will have to be addressed. But to be able to address them, we have to get something going. The exposure has been done, the misery is all around us, the rage explodes all around us in often unfortunate ways. The concept of movement provides the beginning of how these elements might begin to gel. That will provide the preconditions for taking this further.
The system is fragile. Huge, but fragile. It is on the edge, economically and geopolitically. Obama’s police state policies reflect his awareness of this. That his defenders are already warning us of their interpretation of the Dump Johnson legacy is telling. We have to sense their weakness as well as they do.



79 Comments

Great post Jeff, and recommended of course.
Many thoughtful ideas here. thanks
Very good diary.
Any plans to make a web site home for the Dump Obama movement? As you say,
Wouldn’t be good to go for a year without a web site…
So few comments? Well, I joined this non-existent movement months ago when Obummer sold us out on health care behind closed doors. I work in a liberal arts college, and I daresay I have weaned away several dozen votes from this ex-CIA operative just by making my displeasure known often and loudly. And Jeff is right about the anger in the blogosphere; Soetoro promised much, and then played the D.C. game (badly) that he promised he was going to change.
But ultimately, let’s face facts: Obuttboy (and every president since JFK) is a tool of the NWO, and he takes his marching orders from Bilderbergers. Let’s not forget Chantilly, VA ’08; shall we? The left-right paradigm is in its death throes, and this call for a “Dump Obama” movement is simply another signifier for this collapse. Anybody who doesn’t see that the Fed and offshore banksters run this Mafia gang after the last decade’s financial debacle and “War on Terra” nonsense are either contracted to maintain the illusion for employment’s sake or are stupid.
Obama should have been dumped at the ” no re-importation of drugs/ no public option crossroads
You make a most interesting point about the left-right paradigm being in its death throes.
One nasty comment I’ve received is that there already is a Dump Obama movement, and it’s called the Republican Party.
Well, I’m calling for challenging Obama specifically in the Democratic primaries, and perhaps with an independent in the generals. So on the face of it, this critique is nonsense. However, I also believe that — while the Teabaggers are controlled by the right wing — there is something to their fear of an American police state, even as their handlers work to bring it about.
In other words, while the tactic I espouse is the Democratic primaries, to the extent that a movement actually develops, qua movement, it will be broader than merely disaffected Democrats. There may be problems arising from this, but there may be realignment possibilities as well.
Too early to be more specific on this.
Shoulda been. But by who? Exposure doesn’t automatically lead to revolt.
The number of people speaking out against Obama has grown a lot since the not so distant past when speaking out would result in a nuclear trashing.
Unfortunately, the number of those buying into lesser-evilism has not dropped accordingly.
Oddly enough, you hit upon why the time is now to begin talking it up. Take Daily Kos (please). The nuclear trashing is so intense that anyone wanting to speak up is given the impression that they are alone. And alone is a hard place to be.
By putting out Dump Obama now, we strengthen resolve, if not numbers. On the bloody morning after (election day), as people stagger through their election hangovers, and Obama no longer has to maintain any facade of progressivism to cop votes, we’ll be better able to get down to it.
Rec’d.
I think it was Chris Hedges who stated that the foreign policy decisions of this administration could only be made by people who were “moral nihilists”.
Dump Obama? Damn straight. After all, it’s the moral thing to do.
I meant to reply earlier and it slipped my mind, but ditto on the website.
re “nuclear trashing”
I cross posted DUMP OBAMA Manifesto – Open question as to what points it should make at dailykos.
Nuclear trashing did, indeed, ensue. Coupled with censorship of perfectly reasonable posts.
I’m inclined to say “what shallow intellects!”, but the response is so lop-sided that I can’t help but feel that it’s likely manipulated, deliberately and deceptively, by operatives.
Well, whatever the case may be, arguing with the loonies/misanthropes/lemmings there is not going to help the cause of American democracy much at all.
welcome jeff roby
you obviously know that in order for a meme to have momentum, it has to have a critical mass of supporters.
however, you obviously forgot that in order for a meme to have momentum, it has to have a critical mass of supporters.
do you know what KISS stands for?
Keep It Surreptitious Sweetheart?
How is it obvious that I forgot anything? I am obviously only trying to plant the first seeds.
Question is, do you like the idea?
Enough people staying home from the voting booth in November is the kick-off to Dump Obama! Watch the Dem Party Leaders drop him like a lead balloon, once they realize what they’re stuck with. We don’t need no stinking web-site, since they’ll do half of our work for us. Then all we have to do is find the alternative, which I know is no easy feat.
I wonder if that is why Obama is so mealy-mouthed about Elizabeth Warren. Doesn’t want to give his potential opponent a leg up?
I agree. The Dems have decided to make the election a referendum on Obama vs. Boehner. So be it.
Remains to be seen, but a real possibility.
Hey, Jeff:
A rude, poorly written comment at OpenLeft re Dump Obama got me thinking about a potential problem, and solution, to a Dump Obama movement. Namely, people will have kneejerk reactions if only Obama is targetted, and assume that you’re a Republican operative, maybe even a Tea Partier! :-)
Since there’s a huge independent bloc of voters nowaday, unlike in the 60′s, why not make it more obvious to them that you are not a crypto-Republican?
Please see my comment at the above link. Basically, my suggestion is for a Dump Obama (and Friends) movement, where the “Friends” are the D’s and R’s who are still sitting in office, and who helped bring us either the financial blowout and/or the Gulf Oil disaster.
“Dump Obama” is a very interesting idea. I like it. I support the historical Democratic Party’s principles, which makes it very difficult to support the current Democratic Party. I truly believe that Obama became president, not to enact generational change, but to stop it. We need a campaign that states we will no longer vote for those who are not worth voting for. I see applying pressure to the Democrats as more effective at this time than any third party solution. A million voters, who would usually vote for the Democratic candidate, signing on that they will not show up for the Democrats this November, and then following through would be a good start. For many pragmatic reasons, the Republican-controlled House will not be the end of us all, and, in fact, may help keep a Republican out of the presidency in 2012. The Republican party is totally bankrupt, both morally and ethically. Having the Republicans control the House will remind most voters of that very quickly and will force the Democratic party and President Obama into a defensive mode. Since Obama’s administration has used most of it’s political capital against the people who voted for him, I don’t mind seeing him playing defense for a while.
Obama marginalizes the left and the middle is dumb. He feels no real pressure to do anything contrary to what he is doing (shovelling money and support to the MIC and Wall Street).
Dump Obama can provide the necessary pressure which would inspire him. The Tea Baggers will be useful in the beginning.
Doesn’t fit as well on a bumper sticker! If Dump Obama is successful, I will fade from view. And those who would accuse me of being a Republican operative will not support even me if they knew I was not.
For those afraid to make the scatalogical reference, a while ago I decided to dump Obama like I had a bran muffin for breakfast. There, done.
Welcom jeffroby – good post. This idea has merit, it has a short and to-the-point name. I would support it, given that Obama has already shown his true colors. His ‘make me do it’ meme has become a sad joke on progressives, who have tried that avenue and been derided for their efforts. There is nothing to be gained by blind support of Obama (or any Dems), nor by just sniping from the sidelines in blogs that the PTB try to marginalize anyway. A direct approach is needed.
I suspect many who frequent these pages would be sympathetic and supportive of this approach, although not openly for fear of losing their ‘cred’ here. A ‘place’ would have to be set up elsewhere.
As others have noted in the comments here, the idea already has supporters on the ‘other’ side, who could be useful in the beginnning. Especially if the Repubs gain a majority in the house this Nov, an Impeach Obama movement could well result. If that happens, I would hope the reality may start to sink in, and Dems will start running from Obama faster than you can yell ‘Fire’ in a crowded theater.
Well, I put my suggestion poorly. Instead of “you”, I should have written “people behind the Dump Obama movement”.
You’re right about the bumper sticker. Of course, I take that as just an example of having a parsimonious message that people can quickly communicate to the uninitiated.
Perhaps “Dump Obama” today, “Dump Obama’s Friend’s” tomorrow.
I can live with that. Although if we actually dumped Obama, I’m not sure if he would have any friends the day after. Sharks. Feeding frenzy. All that.
I am not suggesting an alliance with Republicans. Initial tactical focus would have to be the Democratic primaries. But a movement doesn’t have clearly defined boundaries. Not all the teabaggers are Republican flunkies. We share concern over the growing police state, for instance. Opposition to the healthcare mandate is another.
Additionally, a third of the electorate is independent. Whatever the issues in getting it off the ground, Dump Obama has long-term realignment possibilities that would be squelched if we operated solely by the Democratic Party rules.
There is certainly sufficient reason to dump Obama. Whether the will can exist is the question. Congressional Democrats should be behind it, since they’re going to lose a lot of seats this fall thanks to Obama’s policies.
I don’t know if you’ve seen this essay by Charles Hughs, but it’s a great discussion of Obama’s failures, and Congress’.
Good idea, and I’ve recommended so maybe you won’t lose exposure now that the diary listing has moved on.
An excellent link. Thank you.
I’m not expecting a Dump Obama movement to have a lot of impact immediately, although Dump Obama sentiment is already a major factor. I keep referencing that Democrats have begun referencing the Dump Johnson movement of the 60′s without Dump Obama being even explicitly brought up.
“The left-right paradigm is in its death throes”
The Democrat/Republican paradigm is in it’s death throws.
The Working Class/Ruling Class paradigm is just gaining currency.
I rather doubt Obama will run in 2012. I think the country will be experiencing the worst depression in American history over the next two years. I don’t remember a dump Bush movement so I don’t expect a dump Obama movement either. Even though I think they both belong in prison.
The essence of a Dump movement of whatever flavor is that it refers to a movement within the president’s own party. Opposition from the other party is campaign business as usual.
If he doesn’t run, I would hope that we can get something going that could take credit for it.
Yes, I agree with you – no alliances with Republicans. I apologize if you misunderstood my comment, I was not trying to imply you were suggesting that at all. I concur there are teapartiers who are independent thinkers that have similar concerns as progressives on several issues. I do not, however, want a Dump Obama (and friends) movement to result in being lumped in with the teaparty movement; there are those in the MSM and elsewhere who would attempt to do so.
I am an independent myself, have never registered with either party, although I lean towards what the policies of what the Dem party has historically claimed it represents (no longer though, I am afraid – the Dems we presently have are now those who I actually used to label Repubs).
I didn’t think you were accusing me of anything. I was merely pointing out that there are dynamics that might come into play outside the usual Dem/Repub parameters.
A diary at FDL has been written in response to this one, viz., Time for Progressives to Keep Our Heads Down
Been hammering away on this theme at different blogs in the hopes of maybe waking up some people. The red v. blue, left v. right, D v. R paradigms are all dead, dead, dead. It is, indeed, a class war, which some citizens of all pol persuasions don’t want to see (prefering to remain in their “safe” havens of identity politics).
I’m not opposed to a “Dump Obama” movement, but my main concern is that it doesn’t end up being co-opted by the rightwing. While I agree with nearly everything posted, I get back: it’s not an issue about D v. R. It’s not really even about Obama.
As one post said, we’re being run by the “off-shore banksters & Mafia.” Amen: much as it is in Russia.
That much needs to be grasped and dealt with in any such movement. Otherwise it just devolves back to the same old b.s. and ends up being co-opted like the Tea Party has been astro-turfed.
IMO, of course. Just saying…
A timely warning. If WE don’t build it, they will.
I am ready to dump Obama for his perfidy as a candidate BUT I do think the problem is larger than just him and extrapolates across much of the Democratic Party in general. I had no idea how in thrall to special interests many Dems (especially Senate Dems) were until the light came on and they all ran under the refrigerator during the HCR process. Very educational.
I think you would be better served by starting or trying to create a movement that addresses – Dump One Party that Acts as Two or something along that line. A poster above said that the working class/ruling class angle is starting to get some traction and I agree with that. I also agree that the Less Evil choice is starting to wear thin. A Party has to do better than- But they are even worse than we are.
But, convince Democrats to Dump Obama and get who? Who could possibly make it through the land mines of the primaries and the party structure who would please those who are unhappy with Obama for his Republicaness, like me? Never happen, in my opinion.
Regardless, I wish you well. I encourage anyone anywhere who can come up with any action or game plan to derail the sickening track we are on currently.
Jane Eyresick
Hard to transform that into a coherent tactic, though it embodies my strategic view. At this point, an optimal outcome would be to split off the progressive wing of the Democratic Party and link it with the independent movement.
Splitting off the progressive wing of the Democratic Party and linking it with the more progressive independents is ultimately the strategic view. Lots and lots of people are arriving at the same conclusion independently, critical mass towards this end is building and there is an actual zeitgeist of “OMG! They all suck!”. You can easily see this coalescing at Daily Kos and DU. Look at the pre-emptive handwringing and finger- pointing at the “Professional Left”.
I am just saying it is a systemic failure and it may be a fatal choice to hinge the entire wagon to the failure of one individual. I actually don’t think President Obama really wants to be a two term President in the first place. He held an interview with Diane Sawyer in January of 2008 where he introduced the idea that he may be a one term President. Has anyone ever done anything comparable? But, if he accomplishes his unstated agenda – passes fake HCR that preserves private delivery, passes fake financial reform that does very little in real terms, continues and expands the Republican/Bush privatizing education agenda and then delivers the coup de grace to Social Security, he can just step down on whatever pretext he chooses to ride off into the sunset. The Dump Obama campaign will be left without a cause but all the problems with the system will remain.
I support and will participate enthusiastically in a movement to dump Obama because I believe he is a liar, a psychopath who willfully and intentionally supports and protects the torturers in chief as he orders the murders of innocent women and children with drones, and he’s a war criminal.
I not only want to dump Obama, I want to dump him and Bush and Cheney and Bybee and Yoo and Gonzales and the rest of the torturers in prison for the rest of their lives and I want him to eat everyday for the rest of his miserable life gulf seafood that is tainted with oil and Corexit.
I would be happier if we could force him to resign before the end of this year, but I’ll settle for forcing him to decide not to run for a second term.
Short of revolution, the problem you mention is endemic of every cause and struggle. A classic is the drive to get the U.S. out of Vietnam, with the movement adrift once the U.S. got out. It’s a leadership issue, and it’s a struggle. There’s unfortunately no short-circuiting it.
A Dump Obama Movement should build momentum like the T Party. The Republican owned MSM will help build it and intentionally conflate it with the T Party.
The trick is to get progressive policy positions heard. And to pressure Obama into making him do some.
Even if the movement does not culminate in a D primary opponent, it can make much needed pressure.
Obama is a narcissist. He loves to be stroked. When he says he might only serve one term, I think he’s searching for the please-don’t-what-a-terrible-shame-that-would-be response. Even if he is considering it, I think he will find it difficult to step down because he loves the power too much.
Even if he isn’t serious about serving only one term, but eventually decides not to seek a second term, he’ll claim that he decided not to seek it long before the Dump-Obama movement got started. He’ll never admit he was forced out.
Where do I get my Dump Obama tee-shirt and bumper sticker?
How about different flavors like,
DUMP OBAMA AND END THE WARS
DUMP OBAMA AND SAVE SOCIAL SECURITY
DUMP OBAMA AND CREATE JOBS
DUMP OBAMA AND THE MANDATE
DUMP OBAMA AND END TORTURE
DUMP OBAMA AND RESTORE CIVIL RIGHTS
etc.
Sell the tee-shirts and bumper stickers near the entrances to baseball and football games throughout the fall and offer petitions for people to sign.
Collect millions of signatures and deliver them to the White House each week
While I would like to Dump Obama, I would never wear a Dump Obama tee-shirt and bumper sticker unless it was somehow made clear I was dumping him from the left for his neolib/DINO stances
Me too.
That is why I suggested,
DUMP OBAMA (fill in the blank)
Clear and unambiguous, and you can highlight something you find particularly egregious. I like it.
Be Creative
A photoshopped photo of a ripped body with two heads. One is Obama and the other is Rahm or Larry or Timmy. The photoshopped LOL is enclosed within a circle with a diagonal through it with the words DUMP above the circle and NEOLIBERALS below it.
Have fun.
Set up a contest for best design. Award a prize.
Contact Gary Larson and see if he might be interested in contributing a Far Side style cartoon for a tee-shirt.
etc.
A photoshopped photo of Obama inside the circle with the diagonal line through it. The palms of both hands hands exposed. Upon closer inspection both hands are right hands.
National Enquirer type headline reads,
Scientists Puzzled (above the circle)
Change You Can Believe In? (below the circle)
That’s it folks.
So long for now.
Last gasp on the train heading out of town:
Uhm, any volunteers to pie him with a shaving cream pie?
Excellent. Too long for bumper stickers, but not too long for other venues.
I am voting for Jerry Brown and Gavin Newsom but there is no way Iam voting for Obama in 2012.
Don’t dump Obama. Dump these companies that give money to conservatives in both parties and get the progressive legislation we want.
Dear Progressive
I have seen and had ENOUGH failure from the progressive side of politics. ENOUGH! I want progressives to succeed. We cannot play nice with conservatives. I save my compassion for the poor, the working man and woman, the unemployed, the retired elderly and disabled and the disenfranchised.
This failure comes from the REFUSAL to use consumer boycotts against conservatives and their friends by progressives suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. In fact I now refuse to help so called progressive organizations that will not boycott the friends of conservatives in order to put pressure on the conservatives to do as we demand.
I do not have compassion for bull headed conservatives bent on ruining other people’s lives.
The way we do not play nice involves what Gandhi would do, namely shun those and their friends who seek to ruin other people’s lives. I did not originate boycotts but I appear new in adapting the boycott to political and legislative outcomes.
I have created the following strategies for getting other legislation and it appears easy to create something as I had for busting up the deal between Google and Verizon. I cannot easily drop Verizon but I wrote to Google and told them I stropped using their search engine and other products and I told them that I will get other people to contact them to threaten a huge boycott of them until they capitulate to our demands that they stop that deal with Verizon!
Also
I have created a new liberal legislative political party: The Liberal Democratic Party of the United States.
We do not raise money.
We do not handle money.
We do not break up your Party. You remain in your own chosen party for the purpose of elections but you also join mine for the purpose of getting needed legislation and political action.
We tell you how not to spend your money and get legislation for
not spending money with well known conservative contributors.
It costs nothing to join this party but some of your day
sending these emails and getting many others to send these emails.
We can get progressive legislation with a new strategy.
Please pass this email to your friends as soon as possible. Thank you.
Instead of petitioning a corporate corrupted congress for legislation, petition the corporate friends of conservatives in both the GOPranos and the Democratic party for legislation and include a boycott threat in your email petitions as you see below. Spread the word please.
You can find the full list of emails here
http://www.hoflink.com/~dbaer/help-me-change-america1.htm
Below, you can see some of the examples of emails found on the web site.
send this email to contacttheboard@riteaid.com at Rite Aid for a strong public option.
To the Rite Aid CEO:
I join with many other people who demand that you get congress and the President to enact a single payer health care plan that will work like HR676 but will not ban private insurance. Your company PAC has given money to conservatives over the years.
This public option will get fully funded by US government general federal taxes.
People will have no monthly premiums, no copays, no yearly deductibles, no coverage gaps, no means tests and no yearly or lifetime caps for coverage.
This public option will cover 100 percent of the cost of: all doctor’s visits including dental visits, all generic and patented medications, surgery and all hospital visits, hospice and nursing home residence and abortion, contraception and other family planning costs.
People can choose this single payer public option health care plan at will even if they had or have private plans presently.
People will have the option to choose private plans or keep the private plans that they have now.
This legislation should appear implemented as amendments to HR676
Until this legislation gets enacted into law, I REFUSE to do business with Rite Aid Pharmacies
Do as I demand, or you will lose my business and the business and income from many other people as myself.
Good day.
send this email to Brown-Forman@b-f.com at Brown Forman to stop conservatives from filibustering legislation.
To the Brown Forman CEO:
Your company PAC has given money to Sen. Mitch McConnell in the past. I will not buy Jack Daniels Whiskey and Southern Comfort until you convince Mitch McConnell to stop all filibusters on legislation and holds on appointments for the duration of the Obama administration.
Good Day.
send this email to contacttheboard@riteaid.com at Rite Aid for a Real prescription drug benefit in Medicare Part B.
To the Rite Aid CEO
Congress and the President must enact a new prescription drug benefit in Medicare Part B covering 80% of the cost of all patented and generic drugs with no extra monthly premiums, no extra yearly deductible, no means tests, no coverage gaps, no late sign up penalties and remove the means test for Medicare Part B and this benefit will get administered by the government and not any private company and until that happens, I refuse to buy ANYTHING from Republican contributor Rite Aid Pharmacies.
Good day.
send this email to john_barker@wendys.com at Wendy’s corporation for a $10 an hour minimum wage.
To the Wendy’s CEO
Congress and the President must enact a $10/HR MINIMUM WAGE into law and until this happens I will not go to any Republican contributor Wendy’s Restaurants.
Good Day.
send this email to Brown-Forman@b-f.com at Brown Forman to get the employee free choice enacted into law.
To the Brown Forman CEO
Brown-Forman of Kentucky, the maker of Jack Daniels Whiskey and Southern Comfort gave Mitch McConnell money for his campaigns. SENATOR McCONNELL MUST MUST GET CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENT TO ENACT HR 1409,S 560 THE EMPLOYEE FREE CHOICE ACT INTO LAW AND AND UNTIL THAT HAPPENS I WON’T BUY JACK DANIELS WHISKEY OR SOUTHERN COMFORT OR ANY OTHER OF BROWN-FORMAN’S PRODUCTS.
Good Day.
send this email to war contractor General Electric Corporation at gary.sheffer@ge.com and demand a resolution from congress ending the Iraq and Afghan wars.
Dear Sir
I demand that your CEO get the Congress and the President to enact a resolution to end the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and remove the troops from Iraq and Afghanistan and until then I will not buy any consumer items from war contractor and Republican contributor General Electric Corporation.
Good day.
yes yes yes yes yes
anything to get rid of this fraud
I agree with every thing you say except the point, don’t dump Obama.
Are you trying to protect him?
Jane Hamsher should run as a Primary Challenger to Obama. She’s well known, has MSNBC in her corner. She’d appeal to independents, the base, and even some libertarians on some issues.
Very good post.
The stuff about Mr. Nixon was especially telling. Nixon’s record was quite liberal for a Republican. In fact, Obama is to the right of Nixon on practically everything.
Personally, I agree. There is always a tension between the principles of a candidate, and their so-called “viability.” Hamsher falls on the principled side of the equation, but considering her left credentials, would be much stronger on viability than your average leftist.
Would she do it? It’s early, but hold that thought.
scary, isn’t it?
I canvassed door-to-door for McCarthy. A busload of us were headed back to college after campaigning for him in Wisconsin, when we stopped at a diner to get coffee. Johnson was on tv behind the counter, announcing he would not run. We were thunderstruck. We had not seen this coming. I was elated; our hard work had paid off.
The tragic end of Robert Kennedy and the election of Nixon tempered my enthusiasm for grassroots political action for awhile — I thought a lot about the unintended consequences that we cannot foresee when we set out to create change — but I never discounted the victory we won that night Johnson withdrew from the race.
This is why I am amazed at the reticence of so many on the left to join in a movement to dump Obama. He campaigned as a progressive and a civil libertarian and has governed as a neoliberal, as a true son of the oligarchy, ready to ramp up the slaughter in the so-called War On Terror if his political consultants advise it. There should not even be a debate, it is so obvious that we must act to bring about his political demise.
Thank you for an excellent post. Best thing I’ve read here in awhile.
NEW FACEBOOK GROUP: THE DUMP OBAMA MOVEMENT
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-dump_Obama-Movement/108531419205910?ref=ts
In fact, it’s startling. Nixon would be run out of town today by the GOP and mocked by the DLC.
Actually Jeff if people petition the companies with those emails and boycott those conservative contributors every day we can force conservatives in both parties to get us the legislation we want.
We will not have to wait for a long lengthy election process to destroy the conservative structure and get our legislation
Join my party.
Spread the word.
Jeff, look at this video where you hear me calling into CSPAN urging people to take back America. When Corporations have taken over congress then we need to boycott a selected group of companies that aid conservatives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NNgFBN8Mfc
I like the idea. But I like many ideas. The problem with most, including my own, is that they require an already organized force to work. (If everyone lit just one little candle …) To have impact, an organized force must be built, or other forces won over.
Sometimes an idea will just catch on. You might say that the agitator’s job is to figure out not just what would work if people embraced it, but whether people WILL embrace it.
Here’s part of the dynamic. I won’t send those letters if I think only a few other people are going to do likewise. If I thought millions of others were going to do the same, I’d be more likely to do it as I’d be more assured that it would have an impact.
I think Dump Obama can catch on.
I’m all in. We have one way left to knock some sense into this bozo, and this is it. (Well, besides impeachment, which he and Rahm are rapidly bringing down upon themselves…)
I like your idea more than many. Its day will come if you hang in there.
Walker wrote:
This would be true only if Democrats ever bothered to filibuster anymore. They don’t; like the Republicans, they don’t believe in protecting the rights of minorities. They think we should have what amounts to mob rule. And if the filibuster goes, you might as well get rid of the entire Senate, because it will have lost its purpose. That might sit well with those who find the workings of true democracy too inconvenient, but it doesn’t hold with anyone else. We need a Senate to act as a check upon mob rule. I do NOT want the slimmest of majorities dictating what the rest of us have to suffer.
You could have signed me up for this a year ago, count this voter in now. This is so frackin overdue it’s beyond needing adding any points to the list of betrayels, just look back at Obama walking Dubya to his helicopter on Inauguaration Day and it’s not hard to understand why Bush didn’t need to pardon anyone. Obama is tha hand-picked puppet of the Bush family, served up to them on a plate by Rahm Emmanuel and his spin-doctor sidekick Axelrod. Rahm’s intento to run for Mayor of Chicago is a clear indication that the rat in chief can see the writing on the wall for the Humpty Dumpty administration!
I was depressed when I didn’t see this diary on the front page this morning. So YIPPEE that it made it for a reasonable discussion. I’ll choose “Dump Obama and Save Social Security” for now. Thanks for a thoughtful discussion.
Reading Geoghegan’s book “Were You Born on the Wrong Continent” is an eye opener. Obama’s Shock Doctrine team is finishing what Reagan started i.e. shock us to our knees. His trade secretary is a horror. We need to stop corporations dead in their tracks. They are not allowed to close plants and shut down whole industries. We, the state, need to pay owners to keep and even add employees like they did in Germany. We need to break up the banks and tax speculation. Yes, Dump Obama and His Bankster Friends.
I submit that the key is not to dump Obama but to ignore and delegitimize him. This is done 2-fold. First, we should publicly ignore any of his or this White House’s pronouncements and begin forming a narrative of significantly greater stimulus, destroying the myth of Reaganism and trickle-down, and framing the fight ahead in positive terms of a group crusade to improve our country’s infrastructure and living standards. Whenever the ‘bots or Obama tries to pooh-pooh things, talk past them and keep underlining the urgent need for a massive stimulus/jobs program and how it would make our lives better. This dovetails with the positive struggle. We need to look at the propaganda of WWII to see how to do it. All of the adds always had the tone of “We can do it!” and how we “Have to win together” and “Have to sacrifice for something greater!” It’s really what all sides of the political continuum are looking for. The anger driving the crazies and the Left is the absence of something to fight for that calls for national sacrifice. This requires an unquestioning, aggressive, uncompromising, and unrelenting attack against Trickle-down/Reaganism. Only by showing the utter bankruptcy of it,the comparatively smart policies of the New Deal, and by openly and aggressively mocking it, will the masses accept the new paradigm. No more wishy-washy limousine Liberalism that tries to be understanding and tolerating of everyone’s view point. This is what saps our strength. We need to have faith in our beliefs and not allow any safe quarter for destructive supply-side policies. It’s the constant rhetorical compromising that kills support. Also, anti-supply side flank must have 2 parts: The 1st: A general attack with lots of little, simple messages that are easily understood and create a steady drum beat, in both the fore and backgrounds, of anti Reagan/anti supply side feeling. The 2nd part must be where we deploy our specialists who go into far technical greater detail in utterly destroying the myth. These are our intellectual brain trust who go on all the political shows and aggressively take on any right winger. It is important to keep stating how the wingnut is either lying or has told a lie. It is important to take a hard edged stand.
All of this together changes the national discussion and makes the herd like mentality at the top begin to follow our lead rather than trying to double down on the same stupid policies that caused this mess.
When you see that happening, you’ll see Obama changing what he says and the same idiots who keep advocating for Repug Lite, all of a sudden start mouthing the words of Democrats. The sheer hypocrisy of it is what will end the strangle hold of the DLC’ers and Obamabots. Remember they are not leaders. These people are/were the 2nd tier popular kids in high school. They aren’t the most popular and aren’t necessarily popular on their own merits. They are only popular by way of their association with the popular kids. In this case, as in the high school one, the popular kids are only popular because they take extreme stances and refuse to back down. They either say or do something considered inappropriate or dangerous. Then the 2nd tier kids start to take sides because at heart they want to be led.
I suspect the Dump Obama movement will take off after he supports, and signs the recommendations of the Cat Food Commission after the elections.
He will have created thee key to his potential defeat in the primaries. By the time of the primaries we will see a worse economy particularily for the middle and upper middle class supporters of Obama, a withering war, and obvious and growing failures of many of his domestic right wing policies. The proverbial chickens will have come home to roost in their well cliched homes.
But the Cat Food Commission is the one that will be the most compelling and easily used policy decision he made that can actually cause him to lose the nomination.
If the anti-war movement revives, then really watch out.
Warren-Hamsher 2012.
I read a version of this post at another site. Five points:
1. Yes, Vietnam was LBJ’s war. He’s the one who sent ordinary soldiers into combat, at one point almost 500,000 of them.
2. The Gulf of Tonkin resolution was indeed passed during his administration.
3. Yes, the Vietnam War could have helped wreck the economy as we were on the gold standard at that time. Nixon got us off that.
4. I think a “Dump Obama” movement will come all on its own if Obama doesn’t take himself out of the running. As janeeyresick (love the name) wrote, it is most unusual that Obama stated very early on that he may be a one-termer. It is entirely possible that once Obama accomplishes all that Republicans wanted to do and couldn’t, he’ll go on to his greater rewards in private industry.
I recently participated in a Zogby poll (yeah, I know, not the most reliable). One of the questions was (paraphrasing), “If the following candidates are running in the 2012 Democratic presidential primary, for whom would you vote?” The possible responses were Obama, Hillary, someone else and don’t know. Since I gave Obama the lowest marks possible, I was also treated to a series of questions concerning the Republican nominee. One of those mentioned was Jeb Bush. Dear Gawd.
5. No, I don’t think that a statement that may not be in agreement with someone else’s view of history is cause for throwing out the entire idea of your post. I do think though that organizing around the idea of “too much corporate power” would reach a greater number of potential voters than a “dump Obama”. Start the movement and just maybe a leader may come.
I think this is a good approach. But what does it have to say about the coming elections?
I like Obama Resign! If he doesn’t that will morph into a dump Obama movement eventually.