Dear Senators Whitehouse, Leahy and Feingold,
I am writing to you because the three of you have consistently supported basic human rights, the rule of law and common decency as our country has struggled to overcome the abuses that were institutionalized during the Bush Administration. The information released in the last two weeks goes a long way toward describing the practice of torture and the contorted legal reasoning that was produced in an effort to provide authorization for these abuses.
As a result of these disclosures, the issue of torture has now become a hot topic for debate in the Congress and the media. The growing realization of what has been done in the name of our country is serving to increase the pressure on Congress and the Obama Administration to hold accountable those responsible for these crimes.
Missing so far, however, from the disclosures is information on one topic that I think would serve as the final straw to unite public opinion behind the need for an independent prosecutor to finish the investigation and bring charges against those who put these programs into place. There is credible evidence that the United States government, almost certainly in the form of the CIA, has custody of four children of suspected terrorists. These children have been missing for over six years.
Here is evidence from the Telegraph in Britain that the CIA holds Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s two sons:
Two young sons of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the suspected mastermind of the September 11 attacks, are being used by the CIA to force their father to talk.
Yousef al-Khalid, nine, and his brother, Abed al-Khalid, seven, were taken into custody in Pakistan last September when intelligence officers raided a flat in Karachi where their father had been hiding.
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Last night CIA interrogators confirmed that the boys were staying at a secret address where they were being encouraged to talk about their father’s activities.
"We are handling them with kid gloves. After all, they are only little children," said one official, "but we need to know as much about their father’s recent activities as possible. We have child psychologists on hand at all times and they are given the best of care."
As you can see from this passage, CIA personnel openly admitted to the Telegraph that they held Mohammed’s sons and that the children were being questioned. Given the role psychologists played in developing the torture practices described by the Senate Armed Services Committee report this week, the allusion to child psychologists being present during questioning of these children is especially chilling.
Even more disturbing is this admission from John Yoo in December, 2005:
Doug Cassel: If the president deems that he’s got to torture somebody, including by crushing the testicles of the person’s child, there is no law that can stop him?
John Yoo: No treaty.
Doug Cassel: Also no law by Congress — that is what you wrote in the August 2002 memo…
John Yoo: I think it depends on why the President thinks he needs to do that.
Did John Yoo or another government lawyer write a memo that authorized torture of Mohammed’s children? Was this torture carried out? Why have there been no further mentions of the fate of these children in the press? Where are they now? What is their health status?
Sadly, it is not just the children of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed who are missing. Aafia Siddiqui and her three children disappeared in the spring of 2003, most likely after she was identified by Mohammed after his waterboard torture began:
Because of the secretive nature of the interrogation, we may never know what, if anything, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed said about Siddiqui. About a month after his capture in the spring of 2003, however, she disappeared. The last her mother remembers, Siddiqui was piling herself and her kids, then seven, five, and six months old, into a taxi headed to the train station, the first step of what she said was her planned trip to visit an uncle in Islamabad. Her mother said goodbye to her daughter and grandchildren — and hasn’t seen them since.
Siddiqui and the oldest son have since resurfaced under very suspicious circumstances, but the other two children are still missing:
The 12-year-old son of an American-educated Pakistani woman whom U.S. authorities have linked to al-Qaeda has been handed over to Pakistani authorities in Afghanistan and is soon to be reunited with family in Pakistan, Afghan and Pakistani officials said Monday.
The boy was detained in Afghanistan along with his mother, Aafia Siddiqui, in July, and his fate since then has been one of the many unanswered questions about his mother’s case. Siddiqui is now in New York facing federal charges.
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Siddiqui’s whereabouts for the past five years have also been the subject of discord.
Family members say she and her three children disappeared five years ago when she was on her way to the airport in Karachi, where she planned to board a plane to visit an uncle in Islamabad. Siddiqui’s sister, Fauzia Siddiqui, denies that her sister had any links to al-Qaeda.
British journalist and activist Yvonne Ridley has said that Siddiqui matched the description of a female prisoner held for five years in the U.S- run prison at Bagram air base in Afghanistan. Siddiqui’s family has said she was tortured by Americans there.
As the three of you know, the process of disclosing what has been done by the United States in this very dark chapter of our history is the first step toward rejoining the community of countries who hold human rights in the highest regard. I submit to you that we cannot complete this process while the fates of these four children remain unknown. I urge you to take up the cause of full disclosure of the detention and treatment of these children. Please use the authority of your positions to insist on a full accounting of what is known about these children. Please request disclosure of any and all documents discussing the abduction and/or interrogation of children of suspected terrorists.
Whatever the crimes of the parent, a civilized nation would never use children as an interrogation tool. Continued silence on the status of these children only will lead the world to assume the worst about their fates and the role the US played in those fates.



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Tears, lump in my throat, sick to my stomach. How low can our nation go?
Jim thank you so much for this. Digg it will spread around.
Does anyone know just how many people have been killed during these torture sessions?
Last number I saw was 108.
June 18 2008…
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” NADLER: Your testimony said 100 detainees have died in detention; do you believe the 25 of those were in effect murdered?
WILKERSON: Mr. Chairman, I think the number’s actually higher than that now. Last time I checked it was 108. “
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/…..-murdered/
Thanks for highlighting this Jim. So far most of the torture advocates have clung tightly to framing the debate exclusively in terms of KSM and AZ claiming we got “useful information that kept us safe”.
We have to move the goal posts and force them to address that many many people were swept up and tortured, most of whom had no reason to be held to begin with. Bringing the case of the children to the fore will force that shift to occur. I can’t wait to watch the “pro-life”, “family values” crowd defend the abduction and interrogation of small children…
Aug 11/08.
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” A frail-looking Siddiqui appeared in a wheelchair at a hearing held in Manhattan federal court and instead of discussing bail as planned, her lawyers said she was in dire need of medical care.
That was granted by U.S. Magistrate Judge Henry Pitman, who ordered she be seen by a physician within 24 hours.
Siddiqui was shot in the abdomen and wounded last month while allegedly trying to fire on a group of U.S. troops who had come to question her in Afghanistan’s Ghazni province.
“She is complaining of abdominal pain. She understands she lost part of an intestine,” said her lawyer Elaine Sharp, adding Siddiqui had large stitches down her torso from major surgery and may be suffering from internal bleeding.
The lead lawyer on her team, Elizabeth Fink, said: “She has been here, judge, for one week and she has not seen a doctor, even though they (U.S. authorities) know she has been shot.”
U.S. prosecutor Christopher LaVigne told the court it was “a complicated situation,” and because of her alleged recent attack she was considered a “high-security risk.” “
http://www.reuters.com/article…..SN11499491
Aug 18/08. There are two pictures of her.
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” On July 17 of this year, she was allegedly “discovered” and detained by Afghan police in an encounter that involved a gunfight with American soldiers (oddly, despite the accusation that she was wielding a high-tech weapon, she was the only one who ended up severely wounded!). Her attorney ridicules this assertion in this press conference.
You saw this woman, she is less than 100 lbs…
The emperor (USA) doesn’t have any clothes…
Picture this woman who is very tiny, and ask yourself how she engaged in armed conflict…with six military men, how did that happen? And how did she get shot? I think you can answer that, can’t you?
Who arrested her? No one knows for sure. However, there is little doubt that the FBI was involved, one way or the other, since the FBI had issued a “seeking information” on her. Since Pakistan is still a relatively sovereign nation (though this can be fairly debated), FBI probably worked with Pakistan’s security agencies to nab her. Like many cases of extraordinary renditions (illegal by all international laws) and “torture-for-hire” that the US government has engaged in, it is also likely that Dr. Aafia was kept in Pakistan and/or Afghanistan in order to allow a free-hand for all sorts of torture techniques that would make look water-boarding look meek!
Moazzam Begg, ex-Guantanamo detainee, who was also held at Bagram airbase for approximately a year and then transferred to Guantanamo, wrote in his book “Enemy Combatant: A British Muslim’s Journey To Guantanamo and Back” about woman screams and how he first imagined they could be from his wife. It was later confirmed that the screams were of a woman who was held at Bagram base for some years. More precisely referred to as prisoner number 650 or the “Grey Lady of Bagram”. “
http://muslimmatters.org/2008/…..ment-24666
” In April 2003, the Press Trust of India reported that she had been arrested at a relative’s home in Karachi after returning to Qaid-e-Azam International Airport from an overseas trip, and was being questioned by the FBI. U.S. intelligence sources confirmed that Siddiqui was “essentially in the hands of the FBI now”.
When her uncle began speaking about her alleged arrest, the FBI denied having any knowledge of her detention or whereabouts; and held to that statement for the next four years. On 28 February 2007 Human Rights Watch said that Siddiqui “may have once been held” in a CIA black site.
Moazzam Begg and several other former captives have reported that a female prisoner, prisoner 650, was held in Bagram. According to The Daily Times and Adnkronos news service the former captives report she has lost her sanity, and cries all the time. Ridley wrote about Bagram’s “Prisoner 650″ and her ordeal of torture and repeatedly being raped for over four years. “The cries of (this) helpless woman echoed (with such torment) in the jail that (it) prompted prisoners to go on hunger strike.” Ridley called her a “gray lady (because) she (was) almost a ghost, a spectre whose cries and screams continue to haunt those who heard her. This would never happen to a Western woman.”
On 4 August 2008, shorty after press rumors suggested that Siddiqui had been in Bagram for the last five years, the US government announced that Aafia Siddiqui was arrested on charges related to her attempted murder and assault of United States officers and employees in Afghanistan.
Because her children were born while she was a US resident they are American citizens.
Under the presidential order of Hamid Karzai, we hand over Ali Hassan (Muhammad Ahmad), 12, to Pakistan authorities.
Reports emerged that Iqbal Jafferi filed a petition before the Islamabad High Court, which asserted that Siddiqui had ended up in US custody through a US bounty payment to Bilal Musharraf, the son of President Musharraf.
On November 18, 2008, the BBC reported that Siddiqui was unfit to stand trial after a psychiatric examination was conducted at a medical centre in Fort Worth, Texas. The evaluation said she is “not currently competent to proceed as a result of her mental disease”.
On March 26, US prosecutors submitted documents to the trial court stating that two independent, government psychiatrists had determined that Siddiqui was “malingering” or faking her symptoms of mental illness. The judge, Richard M. Berman, scheduled a hearing for June 1 to determine Siddiqui’s competency and set a tentative trial date for July 6.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aafia_Siddiqui
Hell at least we know where Roxanna Saberi is. they have not made her disappear.
The irony..that Press TV in Iran is the one who allows Yvonne Ridley to expose that women are disappeared into torture prisons courtesy of the US.(#31) Sure haven’t seen anything like that on America’s MSM.
After what was done to Andy Card’s cousin when she tried to show her proof that there wasn’t any WMD in Iraq, I can’t take too much comfort in knowing Dr. Siddiqui is in a US jail.
I learned a few things when researching her case. All women are held as enemy combatants in these black prison sites overseas. She was rendered to the US and then charged there. That is why she was left without Constitutional, or Geneva protections. She was kidnapped is what she was.
Much is confusing when comparing what the US said all along to what the Pakistani government said. Intentionally so by both of them. There is a letter where the US tells her lawyer that they have run DNA tests that prove the boy with her could be her family. DNA says could be her family? It did not say her son. Because he said he was not her son, that his parents died in the 2005 earthquake,is the reason the US does this test according to the letter. Are you confused..so am I.
How did a woman missing for two years manage to adopt this child in 2005, or later? Somebody is lying. Where is the paper work? This child is American born according to the story. The US flew someone to Pakistan to say yes he was the child it was alleged he was; the son of dead Americans. Every article written when she disappeared in 2003 said that she had three children. There are pictures on the web that show three children. 3 plus one adopted in 2005 makes 4. Who is this child?
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” Afghan officials said Monday that the boy traveled under several names and referred to himself variously as Ali Hassan or Ahmed. Baheen, the Afghan spokesman, said Siddiqui adopted the boy in the southern Pakistani city of Multan after his mother, a medical doctor, and his father, an engineer, were killed in a devastating earthquake in northern Pakistan in 2005.
The boy was born in the United States 12 years ago when his parents were living there, so he is considered a dual Pakistani-American national, Baheen said. “It took us a while to sort out the legal issues because of all this, but finally we turned him over to the Pakistan Embassy,” Baheen said. “
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..8091600098
Thank you Jim, for this extraordinarily fine diary. Can you e-mail or Fax it to the 3 addressees? You can consider my just-posted Oxdown diary a tribute to your and other pups’ efforts to educate the world about these war crimes.
” An earlier court-ordered psychological evaluation had concluded that the neuroscientist, Aafia Siddiqui, 37, was unfit for trial as a result of a mental disease, “which renders her unable to understand the nature and consequences of the proceedings against her or to assist properly in her defense,” a court document shows.
Then, last month, prosecutors said two new evaluations by government-retained psychiatrists had found that she was not suffering from mental illness. But the prosecutors had not previously said the doctors concluded that she was faking.
On Thursday, an assistant United States attorney, David Raskin, told a judge in Federal District Court that the psychiatrists, each working independently and unaware of the other’s findings, concluded that the symptoms that had been seen “were attributed to malingering.”
Ms. Siddiqui’s lawyer, Dawn M. Cardi, said in court that she intended to retain her own experts to review the new evaluations and to examine her client. “We assert that she’s not malingering,” Ms. Cardi said by telephone after the hearing.
Ms. Siddiqui, who studied at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Brandeis University, is being held at the Federal Medical Center Carswell in Fort Worth. “
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03…..diqui.html
Nov 20/08.
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” The feds Wednesday denied claims that “Lady al Qaeda” was abducted by dark forces of the U.S. government in the years before her July 2007 arrest for shooting an American soldier in Afghanistan.
During a hearing in Manhattan Federal Court, prosecutor David Raskin told a judge that Aafia Siddiqui likely went underground as the feds closed in on terrorist plotters she befriended.
“She went into hiding because a couple of people around her started to get arrested,” Raskin told Judge Richard Berman. “We have found zero evidence that Ms. Siddiqui was abducted, kidnapped, tortured.”
Lawyer Elizabeth Fink told Berman that Siddiqui, 36, believes that her two young daughters share a prison cell with her. “She believes her children are living with her,” Fink said. “
http://www.nydailynews.com/new…..d_sta.html
Both of these situations, and I suspect there are more, are disgusting and go beyond the bounds of what should occur in a civilized nation. They sound more like what occurred in Medieval Europe.
I have to say the claims regarding KSM’s children have some overlapping support. First, the reports of the children being taken to America emerged about the time that we now know that KSM was captured and encountering “extreme interrogation” (The Telegraph article of March 2003).
Second, the dates of their apprehension in those reports mesh precisely with the dates when there was an effort to catch KSM in Pakistan with a false claim that he was killed and the story that his wife (who presumably identified him) and “a child” were caught. That story was later asserted to be false, although it may have been that the wife misled the investigators (Syed Sultan Shazad “Chilling Inheritance of Terror” Asia Times Oct. 20, 2002).
Third, another detainee (Majid Khan), through his father [ Natalie Hrubos, April 17, 2007 “Guantanamo Detainee’s father says son tortured in secret CIA prison” The Jurist; “Statement of Ali Khan” Center for Constitutional Rights April 16, 2007) confirmed the taking of KSM’s children, their placement in a cell near Majid Khan’s…and the fact that they were being tortured by having insects placed on them in order to try and get them to expose the location of their father. This was passed on to him by Pakistani guards who suggested that those who were doing it were not Pakistani’s.
Khan said that these procedures occurred sometime in September 2002. Again that meshes well with the apprehension reports of the children AND with the request/approval of the use of insects by John Woo. It seems that this “technique” although intended for someone else, was approved, and used on the children.
KSM also reported to the IRRC that his children were tortured and used to get him to “break”. So there are multiple sources that cannot come from one single report. They corroborate the basic claims.
And if the children were used as leverage to put pressure on KSM, it is clear he had to be aware of some sort of interrogation procedures being placed upon them. I suspect that this would have only been effective if accompanied by audio or video of the children being interrogated. Furthermore it would require a “Julia” moment, where the children themselves were either subjected to extreme abuse, or faced a threat of death, or “broke”- denouncing their father. Alternatively, the children may have been exposed to videos of their fathers treatment.
This is why this material needs to be exposed and investigated.
Confirmation that he knew his children were tortured and when approximately they were taken. This is from page 24 of a 26 page PDF. The Combatant Status Review Hearing that was held on March 10, 2006 at Guantanamo.
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“They arrested my kids intentionally. They arekids. They been arrested for four months they had been abused”.
http://www.defenselink.mil/new…..N10024.pdf
Rankin was the prosecutor against Moussaoui. Rankin is the prosecutor against Siddiqui. The agent was obstructed by superiors. Why?
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“Zacarias Moussaoui came to this country to kill as many Americans as he could,” Mr. Raskin told the jury, citing the defendant’s startling testimony on Monday that his arrest had kept him from flying a plane into the White House on Sept. 11. “So instead, he killed people by lying.”
Mr. MacMahon cited the testimony of Harry Samit, an F.B.I. agent in Minneapolis who arrested Mr. Moussaoui and became convinced that he was a terrorist involved in some imminent hijacking. Mr. Samit said under Mr. MacMahon’s cross-examination that his supervisors in Washington had been “criminally negligent” in bungling the case.
“Agent Samit’s work was tremendous,” Mr. MacMahon told the jury, but he was repeatedly obstructed by superiors at the bureau.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03…..nted=print
Rankin told the judge that there was no evidence of torture re: Siddiqui. He lied.
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“–Dr. Aafia’s medical condition is woeful. Who will answer for the wounds that she received, and even if somehow the wounds are justified as part of some imaginary “firefight”, then who will answer for her bungled medical treatment? Is this the America that we want to project? A nation that treats its prisoners like animals or worse? Here is a list of her miserable medical condition that has been reported on various channels (such as this one article), though this information still needs further medical confirmation (only Allah knows what else she suffered, physically and psychologically):
* one of her kidneys had been removed while in captivity;
* her teeth had been removed;
* her nose had been broken, and improperly reset;
that her recent gun-shot wound had been incompetently dressed, was oozing blood, leaving her clothes soaked with blood “
http://muslimmatters.org/2008/…..ment-24666
How do we know whether Roxanna Saberi is or is not a spy for the U.s. in Iran? Not a good sign for Iran when they would not allow reporters in to her trial. Not a good sign. But what if she is a spy.
How do we want Roxanna Saberi treated? The way we have treated prisoners/detainees/ enemy combatants.
Thank you, everyone, for the very useful additional information. I have faxed the letter to the offices of Whitehouse and Leahy. Feingold’s Washington fax machine seems to be malfunctioning, and the person I talked to on the phone didn’t want to take the URL of the letter to pass on, said there was nobody there who could take the call, and suggested I mail the letter. I’ll keep trying the Washington fax later today, and if that doesn’t go through, I will fax it to one of his offices in Wisconsin.
This is an extremely difficult issue for anyone to admit might be true. I asked Jameel Jaffer in yesterday’s live chat if the ACLU would take up the cause of the children. He didn’t respond to the question. I was not surprised or even too upset by that, because until irrefutable proof in the form of a government document is produced to confirm what we all suspect has happened, any prominent figure making a public call for information will be subject to incredibly fierce attacks from those who don’t want to face what we have done.
As we continue to increase attention on the topic, we improve the odds that requests for disclosure will proceed via quiet channels and/or that an “inadvertent” redaction failure in future document releases will provide further evidence such as the confirmation of Ghul being held by the CIA in last week’s memos.
Jim, how about sending your diary to Bill Moyers? I’d like to see him interview our Mary on this subject of the children.
Jim,
I think Seymour Hersh must be preparing an article. I remember his chilling comments about CIA videos (probably among those destroyed) that recorded the images and screams of young boys being sodomized. I could feel the blood drain out of my face as I read that.
I wish you would also send him a copy of your letter. As horrible as it will be, I think it is necessary that we learn about it if we are to have a hope of trying and convicting the bastards that devised and ordered these atrocities. They are truly war criminals and Obama must not be allowed to be intimited by the threats of political WW3 from the enablers.
Pediatric War Crimes?!
When would we ever have thought of such an idea… certainly not before the Bush Administration made such intensive use of psychologists (including chid psychologists, apparently) in planning and implementing “enhanced” interrogation techniques.
It appears that the fax lines at Feingold’s Wisconsin offices also are not working. I submitted the letter through his web email portal.
Jim, your posts are becoming more and more enlightening, a great point you made here today
Mods–thanks for repairing the broken quote!
You brought a horrible situation into the light. I’d never heard of her until your diary. Why not send some information to the “America does not f..king torture” guys. We need a MSM breakthrough for Siddiqui; they just might provide it.
How about trying Randi?
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http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7094#more-7094
With all of the discussion flying around and all the data it underscores the necessity for vigilance as well as underscoring the fact that we cannot rely on “good faith” in the executive branch when they have made a “good faith” exception for torturers.
In the discussion the other day here with Dr. Nathan Raymond from Physicians for Human Rights I raised a question which he did not reply to (which I have reiterated below)
I am glad you posted this, Jim, because your post responds directly to a couple of the issues I raised and was hoping to get a response to:
that is:
I have been told directly by an interrogator (see below) that women, American citizens, had been tortured (by genital mutilation, clitorectomies without anesthesia and then chemically altered, pharmaceutically, so that they could not either remember or describe or credibly testify to or recount what happened to them and who did it.
I asked Dr. Raymond if he knew of any evidence to substantiate any of that and if not he should keep an eye out for it.
YOU, Jim, have provided in this post some definitive corroborative evidence (or at least the evidence of evidence – a substantial lead which reasonably could be construed as substantiation) of
1. American citizens (the children and
2. Women
tortured and
one torture victim, a woman, “unable to assist in her defense” because of their psychological condition (which to me is substantiation that her treatment resulted in this “inability” which MAY have been pharmaceutically induced so sje could not identify her captors or torturers or even adequately testify as to what happened to her.
This provides a smoking gun to the statments made to me and verification which substantiates what I was told by one former interrogator during an interview.
We need to really stay alert to get all the facts known and the victims protected.
My question below from the chat the other day is below (now on page three of the front page for those who want to read more of that discussion held on April 22nd – sorry I am lousy at typing and html so I did not post a link, but it is there)
Seventhson April 22nd, 2009 at 5:00 pm 100
In response to Seventhson @ 63
Dr. Raymond:
In the event you do get back to this, I wanted to reiterate (copied below) my question/comment and add the following:
According to a confidential source whom I interviewed, and with whom I diswcussed testifying before Congress, a former interrogator who admitted torturing American female detainees, clitorectomies without anesthesia were carried out on orders of his superiors by medical personnel on a US naval aircraft carrier in international waters and the females were pharmaceutically treated to prevent them from disclosing their treatment or remembering exactly what happened to them.
my comment above follows:
As an attorney and activist journalist I interviewed a former interrogator who told me the following:
1. That rendition is kind of a red herring because he interrogated prisoners on air craft carriers beyond the bational boundaries. The victims may have been told they were rendered but in fact were way offshore under OMI supervision.
2. Genital mutilation was used against females as well as males.
3. American citizens were tortured and psychologically neutralized with chemicals to “forget” or else be so disoriented that they could not reliably descrive their experiences (in one case after clitorectomies with no anasthesia AND
4. that there are hundreds of former interrogators in hiding, veterans, who are afraid of their government and the ONI-CIA who will kill them rathert than let them disclose these crimes. Many went awol and into hiding.
Any evidence of any of this in your records?
and if not…
keep an eye out for them.
bluebutterfly and others,
For those who are interested, the next court date for Aafia Siddiqui is on Tuesday, April 28, at 10:00AM at the Magistrate Court at U.S. District Court for S.D.N.Y., 500 Pearl St. New York, NY.
My guess is that it’s a further deliberation over her fitness to stand trial (possibly a ruling from Judge Berman), and if she is deemed fit, to set her trial date. The prosecution is now contending that she is faking mental illness, her lawyer is challenging that contention. She is in Carswell TX at the prison there which includes a wing for criminally insane women.
Absolutely correct that two of her three children (Ahmed and Maryam) are American citizens, having been born in Boston. Ahmed is with his aunt in Pakistan, Maryam and Suleman are missing, Suleman is believed dead.
Thanks, ondelette.
For those of you who might not know, ondelette has been way ahead of the rest of us on the torture issue. See the archives at Humanity Against Crimes for outstanding research and analysis.
Do you know why the court date was changed from June 1st? (my #5) The current situation was summed up 100% with your words. They are worth remembering every time we hear or read what the torture apologists are saying. The guilty are not in hiding. They are out there in the MSM. We should start a war criminal list for future reference.
What is she classified as? POW..enemy combatant..just a US citizen? You all must fight to stop the PATRIOT Act from being renewed before December. I suspect that provisions of it are being used against her. Whistle blower protection must also be fought for. Hersh says that people won’t talk to him before there is some. An enormous firewall for those guilty of torture.
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” There is one group of Americans who are completely focussed on the issue of torture during this election cycle, you can be sure of it. There is the group for whom it is the paramount issue, and far exceeds the importance of anything else. That would be the group which, in the world as it should be, would be prosecuted for the acts of torture committed under color of U.S. law, by the military, and those who, above all, created the system, approved its application, and directed the implementation of the plan.
Many of the names and faces associated with the torture regime in the United States have been in power circles in the U.S. for quite some time. Some, mostly political operatives, harken back to the Nixon administration. Some were staff in the White House during Gerald Ford’s term. Many were involved, either directly or indirectly, in the Iran-Contra scandal in the Reagan administration, or in efforts to create loopholes in the fabric of international humanitarian law at that time. And some were new to this administration. Many are young.
All of these people need the protection of the government. They need to either have an ironclad provision that they will never be prosecuted, or they need a continuation of the current government to the extent that their participation in government will protect them. There is a wider diaspora of people involved. There are prisoners. What will happen to the prisoners in Afghanistan, and elsewhere in the world, under the next administration? There are calls to close Guantanamo, yes. But the prisoners, in many plans, would be transferred to American supermax prisons. Those are the prisons cited by the Commission Against Torture for — well — torture. There is an international incident festering in the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn over the treatment of Aafia Siddiqui with regards to strip searches. Sexual degradation and abuse was also cited by the Commission Against Torture. “
http://humanityagainstcrimes.blogspot.com/
Thanks Jim and ondelette for all you have done for a long time on this issue. I find it hard to fathom how so many people who have convinced themselves that all the torture and other horrors being done in our name somehow is not illegal and is not torture, refuse to face the truth of the innocent human faces, suffering and death that directly counters their lies and rationalizations.
Lawrence O’Donnell has called out these liars extremely well on MSNBC, yet MSNBC who employs him as their expert somehow doesn’t believe his remarks, that oppose what their guests like Liz Cheney say, are important enough to include them on their list of available videos. Apparently, it is only when O’Donnell appears on Countdown or Rachel Maddow that his denunciations of torture and illegal acts need to be included in an available video.
If Liz Cheney can lie and Lawrence O’Donnell tells viewers immediately after why they are lies, then only the lies are provided to viewers who have not watched their daytime news shows live, that must mean that MSNBC wants these lies to have more credibility than the truth. Or perhaps the truth is not such an important issue for them.
Thanks, Jim, for keeping this issue front and center.
The turd blossom twitters..
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” Precautions taken 2 guarantee compliance w/ federal prohibition on torture. U might characterize diligence as overcautious “
http://twitter.com/KarlRove/status/1599609675
I wonder if this is what Cheney kept in his man-sized safe?
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” The reports requests are from a file labeled ‘Detainees’ that Vice President Dick Cheney kept in his office.
Since no other information is currently forthcoming, this new information leads to a variety of questions regarding the contents of the file. How thick is it? How detailed is it? Does the file include an account of every one of the 183 waterboarding sessions conducted in one month on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed? “
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..91261.html
JimWhite, thank you so much for this post.
” Mouhmmad Fawwaz wrote at 9:25am on April 11th, 2009
DR AAFIYA SIDDIQUI – must watch
http://www.presstv.com/program…..x?id=90350
and please send comments to theagenda@presstv.co.uk “
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=21777867538
The video is 48 minutes and is hosted by Yvonne Ridley. It is entitled..”America’s Secrets: Where is the US hiding it’s female prisoners?” In the video she mentions that there will be a show on Dr. Siddiqui in a few days time. This video went up at Press TV on April 16th, so the new one should appear any day now.
” In a suit brought by British men imprisoned for two years at Guantanamo, the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals today reaffirmed its previous ruling that Guantanamo detainees lack the fundamental constitutional right not to be tortured and are not “persons” under a U.S. statute protecting religious freedom.
In its first filing on detention and torture under the Obama administration, the Department of Justice filed briefs in March urging the Court of Appeals to reject any constitutional or statutory rights for detainees. The Obama Justice Department further argued that even if such rights were recognized, the Court should rule that the previous administration’s officials who ordered and approved torture and abuse of the plaintiffs should be immune from liability for their actions.
“This is a question about accountability for torture and abuse. It’s a disgrace to have a U.S. court stating that Guantánamo detainees are not persons. It would be a shame to have our new President supporting such a position in the Supreme Court. It was bad enough for the Obama Administration to take this position at this stage. We hope that they reconsider,” stated Michael Ratner, President of the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR). “Boumediene acknowledged that the fundamental rights we take for granted apply to persons in U.S. custody at Guantanamo. This decision runs directly counter to that principle.” “
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/….._0424.html
Another torture apologist. There appears to be an endless supply of these sick people.
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“”Calling the ACLU push to release the photographs ‘prurient’ and ‘reprehensible,’ Dr. Mark M. Lowenthal, former Assistant Director of Central Intelligence for Analysis and Production, told ABC News that the Obama administration should have taken the case all the way to the Supreme Court,” reported ABC News.
“They should have fought it all the way; if they lost, they lost,” Lowenthal said. “There’s nothing to be gained from it. There’s no substantive reason why those photos have to be released.”
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/….._0424.html
Here he is says that there was nothing else that could have been done to discover that Sadaam did not have WMD. Guess not kicking the weapons inspectors out of Iraq didn’t cross his mind?
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http://www.charlierose.com/view/clip/9950
August 4/08. This report is a stark contrast to her being found wandering around by the Afghan police. Guess the shooting didn’t happen when, where, or how the Americans allege it did. The American version sounds like Jessica Lynch part 2. In this instance, the Americans and the Afghans are telling the same lie.
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” According to the BBC Urdu, the FBI has conceded that Dr. Afia Siddiqi who had vanished from Karachi over five years ago in March 2003 along with her children is in the custody of American forces in Afghanistan but sadly in a horrid medical condition
The information comes from BBC, when it received an email from lawyers based in the US hired by Dr. Afia’s brother to try and help influence the release of her sister who has been allegedly been in the custody of American forces. The lawyers claims that on Thursday an agent from the FBI came to Dr. Afia Siddiqui’s brothers house and admitted to the fact that Dr. Afia is indeed in solitary confinement within a prison in Afghanistan and in serious medical condition.
It may be recalled that over five years ago Dr. Afia suddenly disappeared from Karachi along with her three children never to be seen from again, both the Pakistani and American forces have never acknowledged her disappearance until probably now, five years after her kidnapping. The admittance may well be attributed to the immense media pressure created when a number of human rights organizations presented evidence of a certain prisoner-of-war known as Prisoner 650 who was in terrible medical condition within an American prison located in Afghanistan and they had reason to suspect that Prisoner 650 was Dr. Afia Siddiqui. ”
http://teeth.com.pk/blog/2008/…..a-siddiqui