
US Navy photo of bombs with Blu-117 warheads (from WikiMedia Commons)
The internet is buzzing about this report on heraldscotland.com, where we find that large, "bunker buster" bombs are being shipped from Concord, California to a base on the island of Diego Garcia. The report claims the bombs are intended for immediate use in an attack on Iran. An alternate explanation would be that the bombs are meant to increase pressure on Iran to prevent enrichment of uranium to weapons grade.
Here is how the article opens:
Hundreds of powerful US “bunker-buster” bombs are being shipped from California to the British island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean in preparation for a possible attack on Iran.
The Sunday Herald can reveal that the US government signed a contract in January to transport 10 ammunition containers to the island. According to a cargo manifest from the US navy, this included 387 “Blu” bombs used for blasting hardened or underground structures.
The article is receiving a lot of attention because of this quote it contains:
“They are gearing up totally for the destruction of Iran,” said Dan Plesch, director of the Centre for International Studies and Diplomacy at the University of London, co-author of a recent study on US preparations for an attack on Iran. “US bombers are ready today to destroy 10,000 targets in Iran in a few hours,” he added.
The key portions of the cargo are 195 Blu-110 bombs (at 1000 pounds each) and 192 of the even larger, 2000 pound Blu-117 bombs, as seen in the Navy photo above.
Although I’ve seen unconfirmed rumors that the bombs arrived at Diego Garcia yesterday, note that the shipping contract was signed in January. Shipping our largest existing bunker busters in January fits with this article from the New York Times and this report from Reuters.
First, the Times article (from January), which deals mostly with an explanation that Iran has engaged in hiding its nuclear facilities underground, but has this very interesting statement almost in passing:
Now, with the passing of President Obama’s year-end deadline for diplomatic progress, that cloak of invisibility has emerged as something of a stealth weapon, complicating the West’s military and geopolitical calculus.
Couple the passing of Obama’s diplomatic deadline with this Reuters report from December on our development of even larger bunker buster bombs:
A "bunker buster" bomb with more than 10 times the explosive power of its predecessor will be put into service by the United States next December, six months later than previously scheduled, the U.S. Defense Department told Reuters on Friday.
Here is how Reuters previously characterized the new bomb:
The Pentagon is seeking to speed deployment of an ultra-large "bunker-buster" bomb on the most advanced U.S. bomber as soon as July 2010, the Air Force said on Sunday, amid concerns over perceived nuclear threats from North Korea and Iran.
The non-nuclear, 30,000-pound Massive Ordnance Penetrator, or MOP, which is still being tested, is designed to destroy deeply buried bunkers beyond the reach of existing bombs.
/snip/
Carrying more than 5,300 pounds of explosives. it would deliver more than 10 times the explosive power of its predecessor, the 2,000-pound BLU-109, according to the Pentagon’s Defense Threat Reduction Agency, which has funded and managed the seed program.
So, with Obama’s diplomacy deadline passing and the deployment date for the MOP delayed for almost a year past that deadline, it would make sense for him to put into place the current largest ordnance designed for underground targets.
Getting back to the Times article, we see the difficulties brought about from the Iranian facilities being underground:
“It complicates your targeting,” said Richard L. Russell, a former Central Intelligence Agency analyst now at the National Defense University. “We’re used to facilities being above ground. Underground, it becomes literally a black hole. You can’t be sure what’s taking place.”
Even the Israelis concede that solid rock can render bombs useless. Late last month, the Israeli defense minister, Ehud Barak, told Parliament that the Qum plant was “located in bunkers that cannot be destroyed through a conventional attack.”
Heavily mountainous Iran has a long history of tunneling toward civilian as well as military ends, and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has played a recurring role — first as a transportation engineer and founder of the Iranian Tunneling Association and now as the nation’s president.
There are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of big tunnels in Iran, according to American government and private experts, and the lines separating their uses can be fuzzy. Companies owned by the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps of Iran, for example, build civilian as well as military tunnels.
For a full appreciation of the folly of this very expensive cat and mouse game, where Iran is building multiple facilities buried deeper and deeper underground, while the US develops larger and larger bombs designed to reach ever deeper targets, one needs to see just how far away from a nuclear weapon Iran’s technology is today (caution, FoxNews link):
The internal International Atomic Energy Agency document was significant in being the first glimpse at Iran’s plan to enrich uranium to 20 percent that did not rely on statements from Iranian officials.
Iran says it wants to enrich only up to that grade — substantially below the 90 percent plus level used in the fissile core of nuclear warheads — as a part of a plan to fuel its research reactor that provides medical isotopes to hundreds of thousands of Iranians undergoing cancer treatment.
That report, of only a small amount of uranium being enriched to 20% (where Iran’s previous best was only 5%), was from February. It’s hard to see how that capability is anywhere near the large amounts of 90% enrichment needed for weapons. With Iran so far away from real nuclear weapon development and with the targets so hard to discern and destroy, it’s hard to imagine that Obama and the military really intend to attack now. This movement of bunker busters looks to me like just another move in the childish games Iran and the US are playing with one another.



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Does non nuclear mean no depleted uranium ?
Seems you would need a big wade of that stuff to be effective.
The non-nuclear refers to the warhead itself, which for these bombs is made of “conventional” explosives. As for the “hardening” part that makes them burrow before they are set to explode, I think that part is mainly hardened steel, but I haven’t read enough about that to be sure.
Basically, it’s a specially shaped nose of steel alloy. The alloy is never discussed in detail, but might well contain DU. It’s coated with a ceramic or teflon compound like a cop killer bullet.
I have seen variants with what looks like a unicorns horn sticking out of the tip.
Boxturtle (No photos of the nose of the new MOP I’m aware of)
Unicorn sounds like DU configuration from descriptions I’ve read of a screw like devise.
Actually, it’s a take-off of this tech…!
Yup. Personal theory: The “horn” is made of DU95 or something similar and coated with teflon. Its job is to make a starting hole so that the warhead penetrates fully into the concrete before detonating, thus negating the effects of ablative and reactive armor and putting the greatest possible stress on the concrete.
The Iranian bunkers are topped with a kind of layer effect to try to trick the bomb into exploding at the wrong time and counter this. Unknown how well it works.
Boxturtle (We should have Iranian engineers protecting OUR nuke sites!)
So! I guess international diplomacy is dead, too, along with any shred of integrity in congress.
That kind of reasoning was not enough to deter GWB. It may not be enough to deter Obama, either.
As upset as I’ve been with Obama on his sell-outs of human rights and transparency, I’d still like to think that he wouldn’t start (or allow to be started) a war over something that is demonstrably false.
Of course, two years ago, I would have said I couldn’t see him selling out on torture prosecutions…
I’d have thought the same thing about torture two years ago. Now, I’m just plain skeptical.
More and more it look like Obama’s taking his marching orders from the same group as Bush did. War…and rumours of war. Sigh
Of course! He has no military expertise of his own to call upon… not that a president must have, but after campaigning against Bush’s methods and means, he’s pretty much adopted them all. And then some!
Frankly, I cannot bear to listen to him any longer. A more pleasing syntax than GWB’s only makes what he says all that much worse to my ears.
The blu 117 is the standard US 2000lb bomb. The B version has a hardened nose, but still nothing special and commonly used. Odds are that these are a mix of replacement of what’s been used in Iraq and Afganistan as well as pre-positioning for any trouble with Iran.
But the 117, even with the hardened warhead, won’t bust any of Iran’s buried factories. If we hit, it’ll be what we use to bomb everything else.
Frankly, I’m not sure the proposed MOP can bust those bunkers. It’ll take a focused nuclear explosion, perhaps more than one, to crack the enrichment bunker. But we’ll try the MOPs first.
The clue that we’re going to move will be the activation of those MOPs and their movement to a B2 base. We’ve only got three bombers that can carry those things and the B52′s would be sitting ducks for Iran’s current AA setup.
Boxturtle (odds are that Israel will move first with baby nukes)
Thanks for the further explanation. We don’t have the full description of the bombs shipped, so I don’t think anyone has said what versions they are. And yes, it sounds like buried and reinforced facilities are very unlikely to be destroyed by the current arsenal, even if we have very precise intelligence giving exact coordinates for the locations of the facilities to be disrupted.
The article from Scotland does claim that the base on Diego Garcia is a B2 base.
Diego Garcia can support B2′s and did during the Iraq wars. But I think all the B2′s are currently back in the US. DG can supposedly handle 4-6 at a time.
I think rather than hit with bombs, we’ll try to send in commandos and blow the sites from the inside.
Boxturtle (Predicting war plans is a notoriously difficult things to do)
That’s interesting, I’ve not read or heard that from any sources, what leads you to this posit?
It is.
Their webmaster thinks he’s smart, but he’s not.
They omit the Air Force (B-2) presence on the list of commands:
But then they slip up when they break down who sleeps where:
The pilots of the B-2s.
The support staff – the refuel crew, the techs, the intel analysts, and the mission planning crew chief.
The military is horrible at open-source. Always has been.
Diego Garcia IS a B-2 and B-52 access base.
And as I last knew, was under British control, and leased to USA, base wise.
I’ve always appreciated your inside info and general reading and research efforts regarding matters of war.
When you say we only have 3 bombers that can carry a bomb, are you referring to the new 30K lb bomb, or the 2K kb Blu’s?
What delivery systems do the Israeli’s have we’ve sold them, that can carry the 2K or 1K Blu’s?
Can Israel fighters/bombers make it to Diego Garcia to load, refuel and hit Iran?
Last time they hit Syria I believe they had Turkish flyover permission, I’m guessing that won’t be there for a hit on Iran, so the Israeli’s have to find a different route.
Diego Garcia is technically still British owned, I think, ergo Obama MAY be (think Rahm) thinking if it’s OUR weapons, and Brit Turf, and Israeli’s DO use it to stage, then we are not culpable?
Of course, that won’t wash with the mid east, China, Russia.
And the MINUTE the first bomb drops on Iran, the Straits of Hormuz will be clogged with US Naval debris, our troops in Iraq will be sitting ducks for a RAPIDLY escalating insurgency, as will our troops in Af/Pak, and our embassies world wide, and more.
We have to play this folly shit again do we, as HCR fails we the people, jobs are gone and our Fearless Corporate Leaders lead us into a war to distract us once again?
Sigh.
very interesting. thanks jim
Just a quick reminder…
Nice catch CT, and all so true!!!
Bunker busters are old tech
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Slam_bomb
The Grand Slam was a 22,000 lb (10,000 kg) earthquake bomb used by RAF Bomber Command against strategic targets during the Second World War.
After release from the Avro Lancaster B.Mk 1 (Special) bomber,[2] the Grand Slam would reach near sonic speed, approaching 320 m/s, and penetrate deep underground, with the explosion causing a camouflet[7] (cavern) and shifting the ground to undermine a target’s foundation. ]
20 Lancasters of No. 617 Squadron attacked the Valentin submarine pens,[3] a huge, nearly-ready structure with a concrete roof up to 23 ft (7.2 m) thick. Two Grand Slam bombs penetrated in parts of the pen with a 14 ft 5 inches (4.5 m) thick roof,[20][3][21] which rendered the shelter unusable.
Yup. But those monsters wouldn’t break a modern bunker. And the Iranian bunkers are likely to be the best.
If you dropped one of those on an Iraqi bunker in desert storm I, the bunker would still be operational. Our bombs worked because we could accurately hit the weak spots.
Still, in the event of war I bet the Iranian leaderships moves around and doesn’t trust a bunker.
Boxturtle (They will have learned from Saddams taxi)
If we’re crazy enough to bomb them, we’re not going to rely on a single set of bombs over the bunkers. We’ll keep degrading them until they give out.
From 2006.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/101dorxa.asp?pg=1
Other estimates I’ve seen suggest ten days of bombing might be necessary.
Not of this seems to me to be a real-world possibility at present.
“We’ll keep degrading them until they give out.”
Collateral damage: The Opinion of the other Muslim nations.
I wonder how many angry young men would go to Iraq & Afghanistan?
just one reason why it won’t happen, despite all the raging insanity going around.
For all the reasons many have pointed out, it would be folly, and take the planet into Defcon Bizzalion as China and Russia engage.
Whoops, this comment is directed to Crossword@29 . . . have NO idea how it came up on my comment.
Crossword, You know your stuff, thanks for sharing . . . I really appreciate it.
The average target error from 617 squadron was 75 yards because of their SABS (Stabilising Automatic Bomb Sight) bomb sights.
They hit the concrete roof. Concrete is concrete and the tech has not changed much. They’d penetrate. Just as a wax bullet will penetrate a solid wooden door.
Thanks to all for a very interesting discussion we have going here. I’ve learned a lot.
According to this from ABC News via ICH in Oct. they are to be used with B-2s. And what’s interesting is the wording
Hmmm, “Urgent Operational Need”
Here’s a post I put together at the time, with more links
PS Is Eglin AFB anywhere near you Jim? They’re the contractor in this
That base is way out in the panhandle, so it’s a long way from where I am. Thanks for more good links.
Eglin is an AFSOC base…some Osprey’s, among other fixed- and rotary-wing assets. The darker air assets are in Colorado, Washington state, Virginia and Guam.
This is the command they contracted with.
I’ll bet it’s urgent. The Iranians are perfectly aware that we can’t crack their shelters without nukes and are willing to bet that America under Obama won’t go that far. That’s a good bet.
But Israel WILL stop the Iranian program, even if they have to use nukes. So we’d better be able to sell the Israeli’s a non-nuclear option.
Boxturtle (if the Israeli’s can’t crack the bunkers, they’ll just destroy everything else)
I think you may underestimate the hubris of the Obama administration.
Israel uses nukes the 20%ers will scream End Times they will have to remove Obama their religious beliefs give them no other choice.
Since they believe that they will be raptured away, why would they care who is left behind as President?
Obama is the Anti Christ?
Isn’t that from signs seen at tea party rallies?
I have heard of such signs yes. Even one Nuke and the End of Timers will all go to Washington because the Bible tells them so.
Washington is mentioned in the Bible? Admittedly, I haven’t read it, but why wouldn’t they just hang around home and wait for their magical transportation to wherever they think they are going?
Washington is mentioned in the Bible?
Probably a biblical ruse. Could just as easily be Barstow.
Barstow I could believe.
Natch.
Reminds me of Jagger:
“I was driving thru Bakersfield one night listening to the preacher on the gospel raydeo . . . ”
*G*
The Real Words
*G*
Can’t be Barstow. That’s already hell.
Your information sounds like a continuation of this program. No money for the RNEP was requested in the /08, /09, or /10 budgets. Not openly requested, but could have been placed under a different heading in the budget.
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“However, the FY06 budget request includes $4 million for RNEP and an additional $4.5 million to modify the B-2 bomber to carry the weapon.
The RNEP design: Weapons designers at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory intend to use an existing high-yield nuclear warhead—the 1.2-megaton B83 nuclear bomb—in a longer, stronger and heavier bomb casing. The B83 is the largest nuclear weapon in the U.S. arsenal, and nearly 100 times more powerful than the nuclear bomb used on Hiroshima.
RNEP could kill millions of people: A simulation of RNEP used against the Esfahan nuclear facility in Iran, using the software developed for the Pentagon, showed that 3 million people would be killed by radiation within 2 weeks of the explosion, and 35 million people in Afghanistan, Pakistan and India would be exposed to increased levels of cancer-causing radiation.
RNEP would not be effective at destroying chemical or biological agents: Unless the weapon detonates nearly in the same room with the agents, it will not destroy them. Because the United States is unlikely to know the precise location, size and geometry of underground bunkers, a nuclear attack on a storage bunker containing chemical or biological agents would more likely spread those agents into the environment, along with the radioactive fallout.”
http://www.ucsusa.org/nuclear_weapons_and_global_security/nuclear_weapons/technical_issues/the-robust-nuclear-earth.html
Jim this could break Obama’s Presidency only an idiot fights a war on two fronts when he doesn’t have too, only the King of Idiots fights wars on multiple fronts. This act won’t buy Obama 20%er love no matter what Rahm is telling him.
But war with Iran is justified how by the UN or have we given up on getting their approval now?
War with Iran would explain why 60 million barrels of oil are sitting offshore around the world held by bank speculators.
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/35155
Given the thousands of Dollars a day it costs to keep an oil tanker idle and that some of these tankers have been sitting there for a year well either the banks are stupid.
Or the banks knew this war was coming.
Hedge funds, of a sort. Not sure, one way another, the banks hedged their investments.
But good info to know, TCU, I didn’t know that.
Not a predictor, though, just another hedge, likely with phantom stock and hedged investments one way or another on it all. Ready to sell short, flood a market, and who knows . . . .
The same Dan Plesch who wrote an article a good while back “The Coming War with Iran”
So specific comment on this article, but this has been an extraordinarilly depressing news day.
health care sell out
another looming bank bailout
and now military posturing with Iran
Our government is being run by loonier loons than the loons running Iran.
We know what the USA will do, but will IRAN do?
What IRAN does creates the big problem
All americans better learn the diff between a SUNNI and SHIA
Iran borders Iraq and Afghanistan I assume our troops in both countries will move on anybody they know is friendly to Iran before we attack.
I assume we will knock out their air force and rockets. Without air support Iran will have a hard time sending large amounts of troops after us.
I expect them to smuggle into both countries Guns, small Rockets and troops. I expect sleep agents already inside both countries to act.
What kind of rubbish is this?
The backlash of the FIRST hint of an attack on Iran will fast, swift, and it will hurt.
Despite our best efforts with our superior firepower and airborne power and sneaky on the ground black ops (so small as to be all but ineffective) Iran can in a few moments counter enough to close The Straits, and THEIR sleeper units world wise will go into motion.
If you continue to spread your rumors without links I’m gonna go get the links from AW.com and other sources from military analysts and professionals both military and academic who have been working this stuff for decades and link you to a shame and embarassment you’ll never recover from.
Your message is inaccurate. Either back it up or stop spreading it.
What’s yer point?
Obama is not running the show, let us not forget that in reality Obama is not running the show where financial and Foreign Interest policies are hammered into existence.
Rationality, is obviously not part of the decision making process.
Manipulating oil prices and the Markets for the benefit of the insiders is all that matters.
Would they enter a third conflict to benefit their greed and exercise their power? Ya, betcha – Smedley Butler warned us about that, nothing has changed to make us think otherwise.
We are powerless and lack info to make predictions in the face of the RPTB fickleness.
More’s the pity that General Butler’s immortal words aren’t taught in our public schools.
“War is a racket.”
and way too profitable for those without souls.
Politely disagree a bit, the info we have as per CT’s link and all I’ve read since ’03 about bombing Iran and it’s repercussions all points to a grand folly bigger than any ever committed in history.
Now, aiding and abetting Israel to do so, and pretending we did NOT do it ourselves?
Ok, that’s not so good either, as China and Russia loom in that scenerio, as they do in ANY Iran bombing issues.
Pure fucking folly, a goner fleet, and a DEFCON level of nuke trading unsurpassed in our history?
Nah. Can’t see it, and if USA does it, or aid and abets, we’re all fucked.
If Obama is stupid enough to attack Iran, oil prices will go to $150-200 overnight, the U.S. economy will crash, unemployment will go to 20% and he can pack his bags.
He’s corrupt and a dishonest hustler, but not this stupid.
The chances of this happening are well below 1%.
Your being an Optimist I fear unless you have actual links I would guess much higher.
Antiwar dot com, Asian Times Online, for 7 years or more? Articles predicting what I said at $400-500 per.
I’m with you on this one, fully, all past analysis done has said so back to ’03.
I agree with you, attacking Iran will speed up the process of the USA becoming a 3rd world nation.
The GM volt should sell like hotcakes I hope GM can ramp up production.
Better to invest in Schwinn.
and some seem hell bent that we should become one. And burn in hell for our violence against mankind.
And worry what Russia and China may do?
Then we’ll be ready for the next 3rd rate Republic President.
The planet will go into an INSTANT depression, if not worse militarily when China and Russia decide they have to act to protect their energy assets.
You folks just don’t seem to have been reading back to ’03 as to what doing Iran will signify.
When in trouble at home, go adventuring abroad.
As did GW Bush.
Yer killin me, let’s try the scenerio’s that have been gamed out for the past 7 years that show oil at $400-$500 a barrel OVERNIGHT, once the Strait is jammed with our sunken naval vessels or an oil tanker or two.
The Israelis are certainly capable of bombing Iran in such a way it looked to the Iranians like the USA had done it. By the time we sort things out, the 5th fleet is shattered. Calling Group Capt. Mandrake…..
“Mandrake! Get over here and feed me this belt, boy!”
That would insure that we get into the war.
terrifying!
Huh, there’s THAT scenerio, too, one I hadn’t thought of or heard of.
Good catch, ET, I concur.
next question … what’s downwind of the Iranian locations, besides Iran?
Very good question
Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and possibly Pakistan. Prevailing winds are from the South West.
All will be full of happy, contented, peaceful Muslims.
Israel and the Israeli lobby have been banging on the Iran is bad bad bad war drums since the invasion of Iraq. They have been hitting it hard. Repeating unsubstantiated claims about Iran on Terri Gross’s Fresh (cough) Air, Neil Conan’s Talk of the Nation (have heard John Bolton and many other warmongers on both of those programs and their unsubstantiated claims go unchallenged over and over again. Hell I have heard Terri Gross repeat the unsubstantiated claims about Iran herself. Actually I have heard Rachel Maddow repeat the debunked claim (Professor Juan Cole) that the Iranian President said he wanted to wipe Israel off the map (complete horseshit)
Micheal Ledeen, James Woolsey, Cheney, Reuel Marc Gerecht, and so many more have repeated these false claims and repeated an endless list of unsubstantiated claims about Iran. The warmongers have been setting the stage for a strike on Iran for a solid seven years.
Aipac’s action section at their website has had their big guns focused on Iran since the immoral and illegal invasion of Iraq.
They have never taken their focus off of Iran. You can bet your ass that the upcoming Aipac conference will be solidly focused on attacking Iran
I’d like to get Robert Baer’s take on the shipment of these weapons. His observations cut a lot of weight with me. I’ve heard him state in no uncertain terms that an attack on Iran would be complete and utter insanity.
I like Baer as well, but it’s just not possible for me to accept anything that any “former” agent says. Ever. My rule of thumb is to mute the TV any time a defense or intelligence “expert” comes on. There’s absolutely no reason to trust that they are out. Psy ops is no joke. They don’t just play one side of an issue–they cover all angles. I can’t remember the name of the guy on MSNBC all the time, but tell me that guy isn’t reading a script.
My uneducated guess is that, if we do come to the point where this becomes hot, it will not be the US attacking. Israel will strike first, and we’ll have to back them up. That being said, most liberals would still vote for Obama in 2012 even if we did attack, so I guess it doesn’t matter. The bigger problem, of course, is that China seems likely to step in if anything happens. But perhaps that’s an opportunity to announce that we’re not paying them back for our debt. I know, tin foil hat stuff. Our relations with China have improved so much lately (Google, currency decoupling).
I agree that this seems more like a buildup. The war won’t start until our next economic collapse (or, if they do it right, it will happen just before).
So they basically all work for Israel? Why?
don’t let the banging drown out the simple truth,kid. Iran is bad, bad, bad.
That’s all true Leen, but the reality of what will happen in the aftermath of doing Iran, no matter if it’s Israel or us, or a combo of sorts is NOT lost on the rest of the world, and even the corporate facists know that to risk a global confrontation or reprisals on US interests globally is pure folly and detrimental to their control, power and existence.
I say, only way Iran gets done is if Israel goes rogue and US sleeper neocon efforts countermand WH and Pentagon edicts. And that’s a fuckin far stretch of even MY imagination . . and I have a VIVID conspiratorial one!! *G*
“WASHINGTON, March 17 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — The US Department of Justice has been formally asked to begin regulating the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) as the foreign agent of the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs. A 392 page legal filing presented by a four person IRmep delegation in a two hour meeting with top officials of the Internal Security Section substantiated the following case for AIPAC’s immediate registration:”
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/us-department-of-justice-asked-to-regulate-aipac-as-a-foreign-agent-of-the-israeli-government-88190712.html
Wanna read something really scary? I ran across this a few years ago
WHAT WORLD WAR III MAY LOOK LIKE
John, thanks for that one, I recall it when AW dot com published it, and many others published Giraldi’s piece.
A GREAT read . . . Giraldi’s one of those to be read whenever possible . . *G*
If you do a Google search for “Centre for International Studies and Diplomacy at the University of London” you get [gasp] 1070 hits. And we’re all getting our panties in a wad?
Well, the author himself gets about 32,000, but yes, I really don’t think an attack is happening this week. Bush had all the provocation he needed when Iran took the group of British sailors and held them for a week in 2007. If no attack happened then, it’s going to take something really big for Obama to jump in now.
Such as?
Such as surging into Marja to control an area conveniently located above Baluchistan, in order to arm and train the Jundallah? Causing Iran to send the IRGC across the border to launch proxy attacks on US forces in Afghanistan?
That kind of provocation?
I guess if the military is stockpiling bunker busters at Diego Garcia, we should be stockpiling sterno and soup
There are a lot of places reachable from Diego. For example, Afghanistan.
Or they could be a forward stockpile of bunker busters for any mission reachable from there.
But it does definitely sends a signal since it was not done in secret.
Imminent attack or strategic move? How about neither. Instead, how about steady build up to war with Iran. This article pretends like this is the first move in our build up.
We also moved our aegis anti-missile destroyers into the gulf. We also have been putting down anti-medium range missile systems in allied countries near Iran, one of the earliest being Poland, and latest being Saudi Arabia. We have been increasing our rhetoric of sanctions and sending Clinton around to drum up support for action. We have been pressuring China and Russia to fall in line with our wishes. The media, led my soulless shills like Tom Friedman, have been re-branding the Iraq invasion as the right thing to do but just poorly executed. Watch how they will argue that war with Iran is the right thing to do, but we just need to do a better job executing the war.
This is all part of a steady build up to war. The bunker buster bombs are just the latest chapter. The Empire demands war. The Empire will get its war.
F the empire. It is truly evil. Heaven on earth was the pledge and it is an empire of the depraved now. I truly fear for the world.
Or maybe they have some caves in Afghanistan or Waziristan in mind? Having the proper bombs and B2s in Diego Garcia would give them a shorter flight time in the case of perishable actionable intelligence?
Havent you been paying attention? For those guys we just wait till they are home eating dinner with their families and then have a predator drone launch a hellfire missile at them (along with anyone else that happens to be nearby).
Then we leak a report to the press claiming we got some terrorist bad guy.
Then a few weeks later the press reports how the guy we claimed we got is still alive. (However all those innocent civilians we killed remain very dead)
Glenn Greenwald has an excellent article showing this exact pattern repeated over and over again. Its pretty sad people are still parrotting the “terrorist in caves” propoganda as a justification for anything.
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2009/12/26/airstrikes/index.html
One more possibility comes to mind for me after further thought. Since it appears that there now is a bit more cooperation with Pakistan in arresting Taliban leaders, I wonder if there is thought we might actually come into possession of accurate information for the locations of bunkers holding high level al Qaeda leaders. Those bunkers would be likely to be much more susceptible to these bombs, since the type of digging equipment Iran has at its disposal would be less likely in the mountains of the Afghanistan/Pakistan border area.
I will admit that the timing on this theory is a bit off, since the improvement with Pakistan is a bit more recent than when the shipment order was signed in January, but maybe someone knew the improvement was in the works…
It just occurred to me that this might be meant for Bibi. “Yes, Bibi, we are serious about Iran; now, deal with your settlements.”
This just a little bit too public for me to think there is something immediate afoot. But I could be wrong.
We just had a new moon on the 15th. The next is on April 14th. However if I am reading the charts right, the moon sets in Iran at midnight on March 22 and 1AM on March 23. I think it is unlikely that Obama will attack this month A) before healthcare passes and B) ahead of his much delayed Asian trip. April is another story. BTW the new moon is April 14th, one day before tax day. The moon sets at 0037 on April 21 and 0119 on April 22.
This is based on coordinates for Tehran: E051 30, N35 40 and 3.5 h east of Greenwich.
http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneYear.php
Dunno if there’s any correlation, but what comes next seems to support the strategic move hypothesis … and maybe not imminent attack, but certainly possible sometime down the line
Just for shits and giggles I checked the DoS Daily Press Briefing in my inbox and lo and behold there’s this tiny mention
Here’s where the strategic move hypothesis might come into play
Iran, Pakistan sign gas pipeline deal
Then there’s the fact of where the pipeline is headed
Iranshar is in Iran’s Balochistan province which happens to be next to Pakistan’s Balochistan province which Pepe Escobar has written about
So, now we are moving on to the next page of the Bush playbook: when your opinion polls are dipping, start a war!
SO glad we voted for Obama…
“An alternate explanation would be that the bombs are meant to increase pressure on Iran to prevent enrichment of uranium to weapons grade.”
This really made me laugh. I mean come on, this is the Obama administration, I would bet that they have not even thought of this. No judging by the ignorance that this administration has already shown thus far, the bunker busting bombs are for legit use……………. A war with Iran.
Like I said a few comments up, they’re just waiting for the catalyst.
Jim, you there? Here it is:
That article is from…today.
Thanks. I’m a bit distracted today, but I’m around.
Got your six.
The meme will be, “Iran is providing material support to terrorists, ergo, _________.”