
Here’s the box, where’s the government? (photo: z287marc)
General Stanley McChrystal’s now infamous "We’ve got a government in a box, ready to roll in" claim at the beginning of the Marjeh offensive has now proven to be false. Competing narratives seem to be emerging on whether McChrystal is to blame for making an overly optimistic claim or the Afghan government is to blame for being unable to live up to its obligations under the plan.
While it should come as no surprise that McChrystal should be blamed for making such an outrageous claim, what is unexpected is that some of that blame is actually coming from the Pentagon. Here is David Ignatius on Sunday:
Gen. Stanley McChrystal’s boast in February that "We’ve got a government in a box, ready to roll in" to Marja now sounds wildly over-optimistic. A senior military official concedes that this phrase "created an expectation of rapidity and efficiency that doesn’t exist now."
The New York Times noted Monday that last year’s "tough approach" to a visit from Afghan President Hamid Karzai only resulted in making him "more resentful and resistant", and so the current visit instead is more of a charm offensive from the US. Yet, despite that friendlier approach overall, the article quotes Brian Katulis (Center for American Progress, i.e. veal pen):
For instance, American officials coined the “government in a box” idea for an Afghan government that would be ready to roll into the former Taliban stronghold of Marja once American troops cleared out the insurgents. But once that military operation was completed, Mr. Katulis noted, “there wasn’t much inside the box,” referring to the slow pace of the civilian effort in Afghanistan.
So here we have the veal pen apparently speaking up to point out that the Afghans had nothing to put into the box, but saying so from the standpoint of assuming that the military operation was completed. This would appear to be an attempt to protect McChrystal. However, if we go back to Ignatius, we see that the very next paragraph in his column continues the quote from his military source, saying that control of the Marjeh area was not in fact achieved:
The official Pentagon line, after a White House review Thursday, is that there’s "slow but steady progress" in Afghanistan. But the senior military official cautions that 90 days after the offensive, "Marja is a mixed bag," with parts of the area still controlled by the Taliban and Afghan government performance spotty. A top State Department official agrees: "Transfer is not happening" in Marja.
Gareth Porter, also referring to the Ignatius column, looked at the upcoming offensive in Kandahar:
The outlook at the Pentagon and the White House on the nascent Kandahar offensive is also pessimistic, judging from the comment to Ignatius by an unnamed "senior administration official". The official told Ignatius the operation is "still a work in progress", observing that McChrystal’s command was still trying to decide how much of the local government the military could "salvage" and how much "you have to rebuild".
That is an obvious reference to the dilemma faced by the U.S. military in Kandahar: the entire government structure is controlled by Ahmed Wali Karzai, the much-despised brother of President Hamid Karzai. The U.S.-supported provincial governor now being counted on to introduce governance reforms, on the other hand, is generally regarded by Kandaharis as powerless, as Jonathan Partlow reported in the Washington Post Apr. 29.
So, we now know that our forces were unable to completely clear the sparsely populated Marjeh area and that the Afghans would have been unable to provide an effective government even if we had done so. Now, we are in the opening stages of an offensive in the much more heavily populated Kandahar region, where the government is dominated by the highly corrupt brother of the President and the US-backed puppet is ignored by the populace. What could possibly go wrong?
McChrystal’s response to the inevitable fiasco is to drop his expectations, but only a bit, according to Porter:
McChrystal appears to have responded to the setbacks he has encountered in Helmand and Kandahar by setting aside his most ambitious counterinsurgency aim: the creation of a large zone of control covering both provinces. In late January, an official working for McChrystal at the ISAF told IPS, "The first thing you’ll see is an effort to establish a contiguous security zone in Helmand and Kandahar accounting for 85 percent of the economic resources."
Maybe the General needs a bigger box…



33 Comments




This was never his lane. His lane is tailored elements, of 50 or less, in targeted direct action and unconventional warfare.
50% of the blame goes to the Secretary’s office for picking him, and 50% because the General never spoke up when it was required.
100% of the blame goes to a political establishment that has given the green light for a military adventure of an occupation that can only end badly, and will kill untold amounts of soldiers and innocents, all to keep the military-industrial establishment’s profits churning away at high levels.
Who cares about the hubris of one or a few, when society is drowning in the folly of the many?
Surprise Surprise Surprise.
Not funny in any way people are dying.
This government in a box idea…
did they pick up a functioningwas on several levels so unbelievable that it is not worth further analysis given the reality of the situation in Afghanistan. It was so at the time that the ‘government in a box’ was first revealed.Those that feign surprise that the great Marjah campaign has not turned out as billed- either lack some analysis skills, or are perhaps guilty of wishful thinking ( being charitable).
One possible way to prevent failures like this in the future- order the current thinkers and idea folks to spend more time thinking, and to come up with more better ideas.
Perhaps there might be a different way less likely to continue to fail.
More bigger boxes,or more smaller boxes….
Agree, 100%.
DW
Well said,
Thank you, Jim for providing timely focus, time and again, on something most Americans would seem all too willing to ignore.
DW
So let’s assume that McChrystal actually had a “government in a box” and he somehow managed to create the government he and his cohorts wanted instead of what the local people wanted. Would that have been a good thing? The general problem is that if Markos was right and the Army is “perhaps the ideal society” that does not mean they know how to replicate or that their society is best able to judge what is best for everyone else.
Of course using drones every couple of days in the general region may not actually win the hearts and minds of the victims but that’s probably because they can’t see the big picture. I’m with Jeff this is all about massive, unconstrained and completely non-self-critical hubris. The government, the military and all the rest of the wild-eyed supporters of empire.
Whatever “government” the military put in Marja would be found in pieces in no time. The only “government” acceptable to the US would require the protection of the US military forever.
A “”Jester”" in a box? Deja Vu all over again? Spend billions on war to create new markets for goods? Find new natural resources to feed the machine and justify occupations? Sounds akin to a relationship we severed some time ago?
War and the enabling corporations who profit from war and death suck!
I know people here are not too happy with Obama, but you have to give him creds for holding his military brass’s feet to the fire last fall on the Afghanistan mission. He made sure that the blame for failure would fall where it deserves to fall, on the shoulders of those military leaders, including McChrystal and especially Petraeus, who would backstab him in a New York minute. They played a very tough game of poker behind the scenes. I don’t think any of us know what kind of pressure is being exerted on him. The only parallel I know is Kennedy before his assassination.
You know, it gets really, really old to say it, but did we learn nothing from the Cold War’s phony proxy regimes we installed and the debacle of Vietnam?
Afghanistan is the country on the face of the planet least likely to accept intervention from foreigners (ask the Brits) and most likely to fiercely rebuff any attempts at ‘colonization’/occupation (just ask the Russians aka the former Soviet Union).
Why we still think American exceptionalism is still a valid concept is beyond me, but seems to somehow be clear as a bell to politicians starting with Obama and working down through both political parties. Sadly, we are no longer in the 19th Century or even mythical 1950′s of TVLand, where everything is solved by either a gun or warm cookies baked by Mom.
McChrystal just like every other senior military officer involved in either the Afghan mess or Mess O’Potamia has lied to themselves, their superiors and us, the American Public who pays for their (mis)adventures in order to increase (1) their respective services budget (2) their personal stature with their political base or attain more rapid promotion/command responsibilites within their respective branch of service. Not every leader has been guilty of all of those things, but their motivations seem to pretty transparent as the longest armed conflicts in our nation’s history grinds on with no end in sight, much to the satisfaction of ultimately chair-bound Beltway Flag Officers and the defense contractors who will hire them when they retire from Active service.
Part of the US’ culture of corruption is this:
which is just a facet of telling the boss what the boss wants to hear.
This is extraordinary feudal behavior. It is no different from the king saying “Off with his head”. Or call it shoot the messenger.
Look at the media. All the people who were complicit with Bush’s invasion of Iraq were promoted and became rich. The doubting voices got smacked down and were lucky to keep their jobs, and in general their careers did not prosper.
Obama ratcheted up this war.
It is his and his failure.
Afghanistan, the graveyard of Empires but then the U.S. rarely learns from history. Like Rome the U.S. will fall from a thousand cuts.
Barack Obama is Stanley McChrystal’s press secretary and Stanley McChrystal is Dick Cheney’s press secretary.
Under the direction of Cheney, McChrystal provides classified information to Bob Woodward at the Washington Post. Obama then picks up the stories and turns propaganda into policy.
There are literally no limits to what McChrystal will say or do in the interest of Neocon imperialism. He is a madman. This is the guy, after all, behind the Pat Tillman murder and cover-up. He actually ordered U.S. troops to lie about the way they killed an American soldier. He ordered them to destroy evidence.
McChrystal’s press secretary at the time of the Tillman murder was a moron named George W. Bush.
Bush an Obama have a lot in common.
I doubt that the Pentagon fears Mr. Bipartisan. They’ll twist him like a pretzel to insure he does their bidding.
Jo, this war is not about “winning” the peace, nor is it about gaining “security”, this war, like the others you mentioned, really is about money.
The Cold War, Vietnam, and our recent adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan made and make some people a great deal of money.
Think of the clever “beauty” of an “endless” war, or even a protracted and prolonged war … its is not the humanity that “matters” but only the profits to be made.
Consider the “out-sourced” war, sold to us as “money-saving”, by those who say, “Government should be run like a business …” think of the possibilities for profit, as once a “good” war has been
joined”, who would dare say, “Hey, wait a mo’ this is NOT cheaper, in fact it is terribly more “expensive” than the “old” way”?
The war-machine makes money, a great deal of money, and such “collateral damage as occurs, is “regrettable”, but inevitable, and “a price which must be paid” by the people, all of the people, the people “there” and the people “here”.
One thing America, as currently “constituted”, will never do is to look and see who benefits from war, because to look would not be nice and, besides. it would tip our “hand” to the enemy.
We always have enemies, even if they must be invented.
We always assume that our “leaders” have our “best” interests at “heart”, for they tell us that they do, and everyone solemnly and soberly agrees, for to disagree amounts to treason and the suspicion that those who disagree think they are “better” than those who “believe” that it is always better to “kill them all, and let God sort them out.”
We are cowboys not injuns, and we carry guns because we are afraid of each other, why apparently, in Louisiana, folks wanted to pack guns in church.
So “their” greed and our fears guarantee our belligerence. This will stop only when it is no longer profitable for those at the “top”.
DW
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“I know people here are not too happy with Obama, but you have to give him creds for holding his military brass’s feet to the fire last fall on the Afghanistan mission. He made sure that the blame for failure would fall where it deserves to fall, on the shoulders of those military leaders, including McChrystal and especially Petraeus, who would backstab him in a New York minute.”
Last time I checked Obama was the Commander-In-Chief, so why should Obama get credit for blame-shifting away from himself?
yeah, it’s not about winning the “peace”, it’s about winning the “contract”.
Peace isn’t useful as an argument for military expansion. The contract is useful only if there is a little something provided via kickbacks to the people in charge of the awards. One might suppose that helping the Pentagon misplace a trillion dollars over ten years takes some effort but the results speak for themselves.
Thanks Jim! rec’d
McChrystal may have actually have been foolish enough to think he had a “government in a box”. But I doubt it. He probably knew that the only thing in the box was a china white processing kit.
Anyway, the buck stops with Obama.
We need to get our troops out of that country.
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ISAF/NATO has rebranded and scaled back the Kandahar operation… From Operation Omid(hope) to Operation Hamkari(co-operation)…
Fancy that…!
I hope Obama gets to say, “OK, McChrystal – i asked you to show me what you’ve got and backed you up in your effort. However, it hasn’t worked out according to your expectations, therefore, I get to tell you to pack it up and come home. Same thing for Iraq.”
That was my hope when Obama announced the surge. That he was giving them a fair shot. But he was either lying or they have him “captured” and now there will be a super-surge. Obama hasn’t made any changes in course that have been anything but cosmetic. So I don’t think it’s in the cards. More’s the pity because continued military operations are absolutely contrary to what we need to get any good results.
Thanks CT. Your @24 is revelatory. It’s that kind of insight that makes your work so good.
This is Vietnam, 40 years later. The problem is, the window of opportunity to make a difference was immediately after the Taliban were run out in 2001. Ignorance of the local political/social realities renders the current military types ineffectual and dooms their various “surges/campaigns/winning hearts & minds”. The Taliban were welcomed by many in the first place because the warlords were corrupt, permitted sexual promiscuity and the “rent boy” trade, and ran drugs. The Taliban’s fatal mistake was permitting Osama and other mujahedeen factions free rein in their territories, and then thumbing their collective noses at the West when terrorist acts were committed there.
Our problem was that when that premier attack occurred in NYC, we had a militaristic regime in charge in this country. The optimal strategy would have been to take advantage of the power vacuum in the aftermath of the invasion in 2001 to spike the guns of both the Taliban and the warlords by doing some admittedly expensive nation building. The power base of both groups are unemployed young males. You put them to work on WPA-like infrastructure projects in another province from the one they were born in, provide good pay and advancement, educate the educable, vet the mullahs to whom they are exposed, make sure they send money home to Ma and write often, and thusly produce a new generation, seduced by Ipods and not under the influence of either the Taliban or the warlords. It would probably have cost A LOT less than we have spent so far on the war.
If Bush had had a brain, like Nixon did with China, he could have changed history. However, we all know the answer to that question.
Knut @ 10: Sending another 30,000 troops into the Afghanistan shitmire is “Holding the military’s feet to the fire”?
If that’s true then Obama’s nuking Islamabad because they won’t sign off on a full-scale U.S. Invasion of Pakistan should really piss them off.
I saw on the DellNews page earlier where the generals are re-thinking” the schedule for withdrawing big numbers of the nearly 100K troops occupying Iraq.
In fact, it’s at the point that when people talk about these continuations of bushCo policy, for some reason, often, Obama’s name doesn’t come up. It’s as if he’s a 4th branch of government which holds occasional pressers, signs the legislation passed by the congressional jellyfish herd, and tries to look presidential.
He has nothing to do with, and no responsibility for, Iraq, Afghanistan, the oil catastrophe in the gulf, the Wall Street giveaway, the economy jerking around like a blowfly on a hot turd, etc., etc….
So far, he’s like a democratic Reagan; covered with “centrist” teflon, and nothing sticks to him.
Speaking as someone who voted for him, I confess that November as a wake-up call is increasingly attractive.
Kathryn @ 25:
“…therefore I get to tell you to pack it up and come home.”
I would LOVE to see that. If it happens, practically all will be forgiven…but the track record of Mr. Centrist would lead me to bet the ranch that it won’t happen. I think he’s going to continue the same old crap of strrringing it out, and I think that the Iraqis will become pissed all over again and a lot of those purple finger are going to be inserted into the trigger guards of AK-47′s.
Any strategy which concludes with the US getting out will succeed.
All other strategies will fail.
Someday America will face up to the fact that all these Generals are BOOBS.
Practically from the inseption of this Country We have bragged up our Generals. Most of even the ones we were told wer great were just BOOBS.
Through out all the wars, and even through what we think of as the greatest war WWII most of thsoe were just BOOBs.
We have this fixsation with our Military that makes us think these people can do no wrong, but the results to often prove that wrong. Yet like McChrystal We to this day are making these BOOBS out to be our Heros.
Slightly off-topic, but relevant is this piece in the NYTimes by David Leonhardt, In Greek Debt Crisis, Some See Parallels to US, in which he blames neither the current (or previous) administration, nor either chamber of congress for our financial woes, but instead… blames the American taxpayers for expecting too much.
He even mentions “our” desire for a strong military, but I have to wonder how many US citizens or voters or taxpayers really wish for the wide-ranging and over-reaching military we now have. Not really that many… is my guess.
What is war? Like a boat, it is a humongous hole that you pour humongous sums of money into. At least with a boat, there is some pleasure to be had. With a war… not so much.
Recommended, Jim. Now to tweet and facebook.