
The Civilian Conservation Corps put many citizens to work during the Depression. (photo: Forest History Society on Flickr)
In his remarkable speech Wednesday night at the “Together We Thrive” gathering in Tucson, President Obama offered up words of hope that in responding to the tragedy in Tucson, we should strive to improve our civil discourse and to live up to the example that young Christina Green expected in how our democracy should function. The word “civil” has many shades of meaning in the context of Obama’s speech and in our society. Considering these meanings brings to mind some suggestions for how our country can move forward.
From the official White House transcript of the President’s remarks, as delivered:
The loss of these wonderful people should make every one of us strive to be better. To be better in our private lives, to be better friends and neighbors and coworkers and parents. And if, as has been discussed in recent days, their death helps usher in more civility in our public discourse, let us remember it is not because a simple lack of civility caused this tragedy — it did not — but rather because only a more civil and honest public discourse can help us face up to the challenges of our nation in a way that would make them proud. (Applause.)
We should be civil because we want to live up to the example of public servants like John Roll and Gabby Giffords, who knew first and foremost that we are all Americans, and that we can question each other’s ideas without questioning each other’s love of country and that our task, working together, is to constantly widen the circle of our concern so that we bequeath the American Dream to future generations. (Applause.)
They believed — they believed, and I believe that we can be better. Those who died here, those who saved life here –- they help me believe. We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another, that’s entirely up to us. (Applause.)
And I believe that for all our imperfections, we are full of decency and goodness, and that the forces that divide us are not as strong as those that unite us. (Applause.)
That’s what I believe, in part because that’s what a child like Christina Taylor Green believed. (Applause.)
Imagine — imagine for a moment, here was a young girl who was just becoming aware of our democracy; just beginning to understand the obligations of citizenship; just starting to glimpse the fact that some day she, too, might play a part in shaping her nation’s future. She had been elected to her student council. She saw public service as something exciting and hopeful. She was off to meet her congresswoman, someone she was sure was good and important and might be a role model. She saw all this through the eyes of a child, undimmed by the cynicism or vitriol that we adults all too often just take for granted.
I want to live up to her expectations. (Applause.) I want our democracy to be as good as Christina imagined it. I want America to be as good as she imagined it. (Applause.) All of us -– we should do everything we can to make sure this country lives up to our children’s expectations. (Applause.)
Obama is doing a tremendous service to our country in these remarks, and it is vital that we carry through with his recommendation to usher in more civil discourse. By looking at our nation through the eyes of a nine year old girl who was just discovering the wonders of democracy and service to society, he is asking us to restore the civility that has been sorely lacking from our national debate for far too long.
Since the President has issued this call to civility, it is valuable to look at the many shades of meaning for the root word “civil”. Here is the full list of meanings from dictionary.com:
1. of, pertaining to, or consisting of citizens: civil life; civil society.
2. of the commonwealth or state: civil affairs.
3. of citizens in their ordinary capacity, or of the ordinary life and affairs of citizens, as distinguished from military and ecclesiastical life and affairs.
4. of the citizen as an individual: civil liberty.
5. befitting a citizen: a civil duty.
6. of, or in a condition of, social order or organized government; civilized: civil peoples.
7. adhering to the norms of polite social intercourse; not deficient in common courtesy: After their disagreement, their relations were civil though not cordial.
8. marked by benevolence: He was a very civil sort, and we liked him immediately.
9. (of divisions of time) legally recognized in the ordinary affairs of life: the civil year.
10. of or pertaining to civil law.
Note that the first listed definition relates to citizens. While most would agree that Obama was likely referring to meanings more like numbers seven or eight in the list (polite social intercourse or benevolence), if the public discourse in response to the Tucson tragedy turns toward the citizens themselves, the country will benefit greatly, and I believe that it would actually be our best route to restoring our country to where it could come closer to meeting the high expectations of an idealistic nine year old.
When Obama took office, our country was in the grips of horrendous economic strife. Quick action prevented the collapse of the financial core of our economy. Much of that core has recovered if one looks only at the stock market, but if we look at the citizens, we see that unemployment remains more or less as high as it was at the worst of the crisis. Here is a chart of the Dow Jones Industrial Average from the beginning to 2008 to now:
The Dow Jones average peaked at about 13,000 in early 2008, dropped nearly half its value to around 6500 at the worst of the crisis, but now has returned to almost 12,000, or more than ninety percent of its highest value in 2008. Using the Dow Jones as the only measure of recovery, one would say that the recovery has been complete. Individuals (or civilians), by contrast, have not recovered at all, compared to the complete recovery by the corporations tracked in the Dow Jones Average. Here is a plot of unemployment statistics from the Bureau of Labor Statistics:
The official unemployment rate sat at around five percent at the beginning of 2008, quickly doubled to ten percent at the height of the crisis, but still hovers around nine and a half percent. Unlike corporations, civilians have not recovered at all from the economic crisis. In terms of unemployment, conditions remain nearly twice as bad as they were before the crisis.
During the Great Depression, programs like the Works Progress Administration and the Civilian Conservation Corps put many people back to work. Now that we are restoring civil discourse to our national discussion, it would seem a good time to consider such programs for dealing with citizens looking for work today.
While there is not space to continue down the list of meanings of “civil”, I do want to mention one more, definition number three on the list : “of citizens in their ordinary capacity, or of the ordinary life and affairs of citizens, as distinguished from military and ecclesiastical life and affairs”. Our country remains embroiled in two very unpopular wars, and yet discourse in Washington prevents a full discussion of options for ending these wars or discussion of how the wars affect the financial affairs of the nation. With civil discourse, perhaps civilians can be viewed with the same reverence as the military so that these previously taboo subjects can be discussed. Similarly, restoring Washington discussion to a truly civil level that does not venture into the ecclesiastical would be a welcome change.
Here’s to the new civility. Long may it flourish.





39 Comments

As I listened to his wonderful speech – no sarcasm implied nor intended – I couldn’t stop wondering, “Where the hell was THIS Barack Obama on health insurance reform? The Wars? DADT? Torture? EFCA?” His wholesale abandonment of the Progressive agenda is vexing on levels we discuss here all the time, but I think much of the frustration with that is rooted in the fact that he is gifted enough to change minds – literally, to turn them 180 degrees – and has chosen not to.
It is so sad.
Yes, here is one more opportunity for him to do the right thing after he has said the right thing. Sadly, I fear that in a short time, we will be adding this speech to the list where he said the right thing and then followed through with actions that were the opposite.
I don’t see how President Obama can reconcile his call for civility with his assertion that he is allowed to order political assassinations against Muslims. Does anyone think the President will back off from his horrible violent set example for our young?
Where was his civility when he cooperated in overthrowing the Honduran Government, as shown in Wikileaks?
Why does he continue to shield the CIA kidnappers wanted in Italy?
Why does he continue to shield the murderers of Reuters journalists exposed in Wikileaks?
Why does he continue the torture of Manning?
When will the President make a concrete move toward civility?
Also, is it civility when your Chief Of Staff calls a certain group of people “fucking retarded” and you, as his boss, fail to reprimand him? Does civility start at home?
O-great at speeches, actually helping people? Not so much.
I disagree. We need less civility in politics, at least on the progressive side. We need public officials to start calling Obama the shitbag he is. We need them to start calling lies, lies. I’m afraid to say it, but 99% of the time the most civil side of a political argument is also the losing side.
There’s always been a huge gap between Obama’s lofty words and what he actually delivers, and he usually tries to make that gap smaller by doing a happy dance around whatever legislative outcomes he gets. This kind of speech is perfect for him. It makes everyone feel good, but he doesn’t have to actually do anything thereafter.
We should change our system so that the Presidency is a largely symbolic role and have Obama as President, then perhaps we can have a Prime Minister as the Chief Executive who will actually try to solve our national problems.
Obama’s broader message is one of personal control and personal responsibility; actually a very conservative sentiment and one that Sarah Palin and her conservative pals have tried to match in such a clumsy and offensive fashion.
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“They believed — they believed, and I believe that we can be better. Those who died here, those who saved life here –- they help me believe. We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another, that’s entirely up to us.”
Mr. President, do you think you can live up to those words? Do you feel that you might treat us with a little more respect and concern? Will you promise not to call us names like purist, sanctimonious, or tell us to sit down and STFU?
We understand it is hard. We know that you came into a mess of gigantic porportions. We have been patient, and hung on your every word in hopes of your Hope and Change. Mr. President, with all due respect, we only see the same as before you took the oath.
Sincerely,
Your Peasant
Civility does not extend to the Professional Left.
I agree. Civility has nothing to do with achieving progressive goals. He is coming dangerously close to substituting civility for justice and fairness. No justice, no fairness, no fucking civility.
Earlier in the day, reporters described the high unemployment and the shattered dreams of people who had invested in lives in Tucson. What a contrast to the emotional thrill of Obama’s stirring speech. Like two wars he won’t stop, ditching the public option, ignoring the cries of the foreclosed on, dissing union leaders, treating the unemployed with contempt and refusing to create jobs when he knows 75% of the unemployed are not going to get existing jobs…….instead he waxes bipartisan-y. Like the preacher, Casey, in Steinbeck’s, The Grapes Of Wrath, I felt like screaming: “Never mind the dead, for the love of God do something for the living!”
How about we start by calling out the liars on the other side first?
By starting with our fellow democrats of whatever stripe/persuasion we are only avoiding that which we seem the fear the most … righteously challenging our political opponents!
We must show the way … Obama will not, not even after this speech, I fear.
I could not agree more Mr. President, however, you must have missed the reaction to your speech by the right wing lunatic fringe constituency of the republican party, these people are like wounded elephants, dangerously striking out everywhere. In their “leave it to beaver world” every Liberal true Democrat is the enemy. The republicans have been feeding the ignorance and insecurity of deranged thinking people, justifing and hiding behind the 1st amendment. Brace yourself the next two years are going to be rougher. McConell, bohener,issa and their minions are not going to make it easy for you. Stand up to these bastards, call them out for what they really are. Show them what it means to be from the South Side.
I was thinking the same thing.
Where was Obama when Rahm was trashing the base with sadistic glee? Obama was silent. And when Rahm called liberals “f***ing retarded” and trashed the UAW, what’s the difference between that type of ugly rhetoric and what Rush/Beck/Bachmann say every day?
Very little, actually.
Having said that, I did like his speech yesterday. I feared it was going to be a “both sides do it, now you left wingers need to shut the hell up and be more bipartisan” speech, but thankfully it was not.
I’m starting with the man in the mirror. I can’t control what others do, but I can sure control myself. I would like to see Medicare for all, if the President can’t deliver it I will work with the people and organizations I am affiliated with to push for it. I would like to see no American military in Iraq or Afghanistan or Guantanamo, and again, if the President can’t deliver it I will work with the people and organizations I am affiliated with to push for it. I may be cynical, hell at my age what else can you be, but I am going to be civil no matter the depth to which my opponent may sink. President Obama has set the standard over the last two years and again last night, and I intend to try and honor that standard.
I couldn’t agree more. obama is an actor who can make speeches. The people of this country needs a leader who in principled (unlike obama)and who is not a con man. Someone who is not over their head in a job that requires experience. And what about his civility? I’m a democrat who didn’t vote for bush and abhorred what he did during his presidency, but there was no call for civil discourse on the part of democrats. Democrats called bush “the chimp”, wished him dead, and on and on. Where were you Mr. White during that time? Can you imagine if someone called obama a “chimp?”
Aloha, Jim…
You remember the old Army adage; ‘F*ck up, Move up’…?
It’s taken to all new heights…!
A Fifth Star for David Petraeus
“The general clearly deserves to join the rank held by MacArthur, Marshall and Nimitz. His promotion would also honor our troops and their mission in the war on terror.”
You’re free to express yourself however you want, but everything you wrote after ‘however’ contradicts (in spirit, at least) everything before.
I think civility is just easier as a Centrist as you have fewer people far away from your way of thinking. If you are a hard-core Lefty or Righty, however, you are positioned to see the things that “they” do and stand for as wrong in the extreme.
Aloha, Tutt. Funny you should mention that. Pouting Baby is in the process of telling me that he doesn’t understand why Little Davey P. should get a star for failing. Stay tuned for Late Night…
Boy, us Americans really put the shine on a star don’t we?
Sheesh!
It was well that he talked about the loss of Christina Green, but as he was doing it, I couldn’t help but think of the many, many, innnocent Afghan children who’ve died as the result of the attempt to sustain the occupation of Afghanistan.
Or, for that matter, those who’ve died in the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
“He is coming dangerously close to substituting civility for justice and fairness.”
Exactly. Well said.
It’s a presidential duty to console and reassure the nation in time of crisis, and Obama did a decent job of it.
Now, comes the reality of his being a lame-duck president, with, as the Chairman of the Black Caucus pointed out yesterday, not much chance of being re-elected.
At this point, and speech-making ability, has been pretty much neutralized by the results of the mid-term election about 10 weeks ago.
Bullshit. I say again, bullshit. We — the people here — call out both sides. The problem is, our pundit class and Dem politicians try to cast the blame on the GOP for their own crimes, sins, and betrayals. I’ll know we’ve turned a corner when Obama and Dem leaders start showing up on whatever KO renames his “Worst Persons” segment.
We have the artful dancer, fantasizing in a tender but manly way, about civility and how good it feels. The crowd goes wild!
Straight bullshit. The only reason Obama wants civility is because it makes it easier for him to sell out Americans to any and all, that’s also why he wants us to look around in wonderment like 9 year old children.
Drivel.
Eh. I mean Obama, Jim. Not you. He gets all choked up about keeping the lumpen quiet and polite. Crocodile tears from the corporate puppet.
“A fifth star for David Petraeus…”
No problem. Let’s give it to him as soon as the NY Stock Exchange opens up a branch in downtown Kabul, and as soon as all of our troops are out of Iraq, so that the Green Zone; the world’s largest and most expensive mortar-training range, can become fully functional.
Or the non-Professional Left!
Civility is a means to an end, not an end like bipartisanship or compromise have become in Obama world.
I couldn’t listen to his speech. I turned the TV to another channel.
Over at HuffPo today there were busy puffing up how glorious, wonderful our Prez is because he gave a great speech about how it’s nice to be nice and we all should be nice and they all got warm and fuzzy feelings about it.
According to the commenters at HuffPo, my critiques of empty rhetoric and using the real tragedy of real people dealing with real grief to deal with national issues of vague platitudes, mean that I am bitter and cynical, I’ve lost my humanity, I must have lost my job or something and I should shut up.
Of course no one ever responded once to my litany of the policies that are destroying our country. In fact those posts tended to get pulled before I could even read them to see if anyone commented. Oh well.
Some good articles explaining what’s really going on with the “civility” meme:
Kennedy R. The case against “civility”. American Prospect. 1998 Nov 1:84. Available from: http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_case_against_civility. Accessed 2009 Sep 11.
DeMott B. Seduced by civility: political manners and the crisis of democratic values [cover story]. The Nation. 1996 Dec 9;263(19):11-19.
The “civility” meme is truly evil: in essence, it demands that we treat issues of mere etiquette with the same gravity that we treat issues of ethics. Also, because the concept of “civility” is so vague, and is a grab-bag of so many things of such vastly different levels of importance, its application to any specific issue amounts to the elevation of personal pet peeves to the level of moral principles.
Let the truth be told, and civility be damned.
Btw, wasn’t ‘civility’ the Coffee Party’s main shtick?
Civility in our government, as a theme, could really improve things domestically, as well as around the world. Innocent goatherders being tortured per the Sachschurian Candidate’s orders could be told “Please excuse the polyester in these rags we’re stuffing down your throat. It’s the best we could do for now.” Hellfire missiles could be painted pretty party colors as they streak towards AfPak family compounds celebrating a birthday or wedding. Little gestures like those would do much to reaffirm America The Beautiful’s reputation as a force for good worldwide.
Worked well for MacArthur, did it not?
The aristocrats of Europe practiced civility.
That fostered a rebellion in the colonies, and many lost their heads. The lot of the average peasant? Not much improved.
Actually we are in 6 unpopular wars (seems like many don’t know about the other four)
Obama is preaching to the choir. That isn’t going to change a lot of civility!