
US Ambassador to Pakistan Cameron Munter is headed back to Washington to convey Pakistan's objections to Thursday's drone strikes on a jirga in North Waziristan. (photo: Wikimedia Commons)
With protests about Raymond Davis’ release still raging across Pakistan to the point that extraordinary levels of riot police are required around the US consulate in Lahore and Pakistani lawyers are burning the US flag, the CIA has recklessly escalated anti-US sentiment yet again by targeting a jirga, or meeting of village elders, in a drone strike in North Waziristan.
Despite the fact that the UN has declared that US drone strikes in Pakistan “may well violate international humanitarian law“, the Obama administration still relies on drones as a central feature in its war in the Afghanistan-Pakistan theater. The latest strike, on Thursday, has sparked a huge outcry from civilians, the Pakistani military and Pakistani government officials.
Here is how the New York Times describes the strike:
Several missiles fired from American drone aircraft on Thursday struck a meeting of local people in northwest Pakistan who had gathered with Taliban mediators to settle a dispute over a chromite mine. The attack, a Pakistani intelligence official said, killed 26 of 32 people present, some of them Taliban fighters, but the majority elders and local people not attached to the militants.
Locals in Pakistan are claiming the death toll was as high as forty. The Times article continues:
The Pakistani military chief, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, issued an unusual and unusually strong condemnation of the attack. “It is highly regrettable that a jirga of peaceful citizens, including elders of the area, was carelessly and callously targeted with complete disregard to human life,” the statement said.
But American officials on Thursday sharply disputed Pakistan’s account of the strikes and the civilian deaths, contending that all the people killed were insurgents. “These people weren’t gathering for a bake sale,” an American official said. “They were terrorists.”
Just wow. After killing a huge number of people, and with multiple sources pointing out that this was a peaceful meeting to work out a dispute over a mine (and others noting that the Taliban would not gather so openly when they know they are targeted), the US responds with a callous and flippant remark about a “bake sale”.
The Pakistani media has details on official reactions to this incredibly provocative action. Dawn describes Pakistani Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir’s response:
In a correspondence with US Ambassador to Pakistan Cameron Munter, Pakistan’s Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir protested against Thursday’s drone strike and said the United States must guarantee that similar mistakes would not be repeated, foreign office sources told DawnNews.
The correspondence further stated that Pakistan reserved its right to defend its sovereignty and that such attacks would not be tolerated in the future.
The correspondence also stated that Pakistan would not tolerate similar violations of international law and human rights in the future.
The article goes on to provide a statement from foreign ministry spokeswoman Tehmina Janjua:
“This is not only unacceptable but also a flagrant violation of all humanitarian rules and norms,” Janjua said.
Dawn also reports that US Ambassador Cameron Munter was summoned to a meeting at the foreign office:
The ministry said that Munter was met by foreign secretary Salman Bashir who conveyed “a strong protest” regarding Thursday’s attack by a CIA-operated pilotless drone.
“It was evident that the fundamentals of our relations need to be revisited. Pakistan should not be taken for granted nor treated as a client state,” the statement said.
“It was for the White House and the State Department to hold back those who have been trying to veer Pakistan-US relationship away from the track.” The ministry said Pakistan would not attend a meeting in Brussels with officials from the Washington and Kabul on security in Afghanistan, scheduled for March 26.
Canceling Pakistan’s cooperation in the trilateral meeting is a huge move. The US uses these meetings as cover for its actions in the area. By not participating in the meeting, Pakistan is essentially withdrawing some of its support for US actions in the region.
The article goes on to state that Munter intends to “rush to Washington” to deliver the message from the foreign ministry. In the meantime, I can find no official press releases from State Department personnel in Pakistan on the drone attack. Hmmm, I wonder if this incredibly provocative attack and the hopelessly insensitive “bake sale” statement played a role in Hillary Clinton’s decision on Thursday to announce that she would not serve as Secretary of State during a second Obama term.
The Pakistani military is just as upset by this attack as the foreign office. The Express Tribune quotes Army Chief of Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani:
“Such acts of violence take us away from our objective of elimination of terrorism. It is imperative to understand that this critical objective can not be sacrificed for temporary tactical gains. Security of people of Pakistan, in any case, stands above all,” an ISPR statement quoted the army chief as saying. In his strongly-worded statement, the army chief said it is highly regrettable that a jirga of peaceful citizens including elders of the area was carelessly and callously targeted with complete disregard for human life.
He said that the Pakistan Army condoles with the families whose dear and near ones have been martyred in the attack. Troops on the ground have been ordered to render all possible assistance to the bereaved families, he added.
“The Pakistan Army has already launched a protest in the strongest possible terms.” he added.
It will be very interesting to see how long it is until the next drone strike and at what level the US responds to the charges that the meeting was peaceful rather than a gathering of terrorists. Not much time remains until the trilateral meeting, so the US will need to respond quickly to get Pakistan back into the fold in order to provide cover for US actions.



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I guess it’s not a war crime, though, if we’re not actually at war with the target country. This is horrifying and, in a just society, the “American official” who mentioned the bake sale would lose his job.
Maybe we can get the Twitter hashtag #FireTheBakeSaleGuy to get some traction.
OY! [all I can think of to say...]
Where is the UN no fly zone over Pakistan and Afghanistan? I mean, if it’s about truth and justice, rather than about US geopolitical domination?
Thanks, harpie. I had meant to highlight that point and then forgot. It does stand out as quite an escalation in language, doesn’t it?
Very good question.
Any gathering of more than three people anywhere on the planet is viewed as dangerous, and deserving of ‘attention’.
One wonders, Imka, just how long the rest of the world will tolerate such hegemony? And then … what will they do about it?”
Unimaginable, I guess.
You know, like a “hole” in the Gulf, or a nuclear “meltdown” … somewhere.
Just doesn’t bear thinking about.
DW
That would definitely not surprise me.
“Such acts of violence take us away from our objective of elimination of terrorism.”
Such acts of violence ARE terrorism.
I wonder what the individuals who pull the trigger think, when they find out they’ve murdered a bunch of harmless people.
Do they Just head home, get dinner, and put on the TV?
It seems to me that there are so many attacks in AfPak on people that are trying to get peaceful resolution to what is going on that it is probably not coinkydink. Non-taliban leaders that work at getting the taliban to give up fighting have their homes broken into at night by special ops and are murdered; innocent children gathering firewood are shot as “insurgents;” family gatherings of women and children are killed by US troops and counted as “insurgents.” I believe that these horrible, evil, shameless acts are done deliberately to keep the people stirred up and feeding into the opposition. This way the war is never able to end, and the mic can keep feeding at the public trough. Why would we really need more and more advanced airplanes to contend with guerilla fighters?
I hope the pakistani army invades the base where these ****ing drones are coming from and declares every ****ing member of the cia there “illegal enemy combatants who don’t fall under the geneva convention”
We can’t afford to pay our ****ing teachers but we can blow up their version of a city council meeting.
If canada sent tanks over the border and fired at everything that moved in upstate newyork and claimed it was to hunt down a fugitive then we’d be at war with canada in a second.
If russia bombed an american city into rubble to kill a suspected chechneyan terrorist we’d be at war with russia.
The pakistanis are being slaughtered by this bullcrap…I want terrible terrible things to happen to the terrorist organization that calls itself CIA.
You know one would think that it’s not a very good idea to piss off a populace that does have nukes…!
Just a thought…! 8-(
But how can America’s war profiteers continue to loot the Treasury if we don’t create more enemies that will hate us for the next 500 years?
Don’t you liberals know how capitalism works: We kill unarmed women and children and leaders that are fighting against the extremists, they in turn join with our enemies, we send in more American bullet catchers and other war criminals, American war profiteers profit!
It’s win – win! American war profiteers get billions of dollars to murder children and American children (19 year old soldiers) get killed too! What’s not to love about that?
Who fingered the Taliban? This incident has wheels within wheels.
didn’t you know nuclear wars are “winnable”?
Sociopaths don’t really think with their heads or their hearts…they just pull the trigger. As natural as sneezing I assume…
Disgusting…my country’s actions and the actions of our current so-called commander in crime (chief), disgusts me at my very core!
With Tokyo a virtual ghost town, I wonder what the fallout from a few ‘mushroom clouds’ would create…! 8-(
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was Hillary’s mouth those words came out of.
And Obama’s pals in Yemen open fire on studen protestors, killing 30 or so of those as well.
Meanwhile, Khaddafy is justifying his bombings of civilians by saying, “Those people weren’t gathering for a bake sale.”
Mubarak is smacking himself in the forehad and wondering, “why didn’t I think of that”
Aw shucks, just get out the role of benjamins and deal several to the surviving family members.
The CIA drone strikes are, almost by definition, war crimes.
Loyola Law School professor David Glazier, a former Navy surface warfare officer, said the pilots operating the drones from afar could — in theory — be hauled into court in the countries where the attacks occur. That’s because the CIA’s drone pilots aren’t combatants in a legal sense. “It is my opinion, as well as that of most other law-of-war scholars I know, that those who participate in hostilities without the combatant’s privilege do not violate the law of war by doing so, they simply gain no immunity from domestic laws,” he said.
“Under this view CIA drone pilots are liable to prosecution under the law of any jurisdiction where attacks occur for any injuries, deaths or property damage they cause,” Glazier continued. “But under the legal theories adopted by our government in prosecuting Guantánamo detainees, these CIA officers as well as any higher-level government officials who have authorized or directed their attacks are committing war crimes.”
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/04/drone-pilots-could-be-tried-for-war-crimes-law-prof-says/
There’s no practical reason the drones aren’t piloted by Air Force or Navy officers instead of CIA pilots, its simply that bureaucratic politics (the CIA wants their slice of the “war on terrorism” pie) overrides any consideration of international law.
I wish our government would just quit life. Hang itself or something. Fuck.
If Hillary didn’t actually say the bake sale comment, she prolly wrote it for whoever did. Woman has ice water in her veins.
Bake sale is also how the O admin thinks about the U.S. middle class. As in: Well, if they can’t find a job, they should just have bake sales. Poor are off their radar altogether.
“There’s no practical reason the drones aren’t piloted by Air Force or Navy officers instead of CIA pilots”
Might have to do with some warped version of keeping a higher level of secrecy over identity of pilots. Also, perhaps there are more sadists in CIA than reg military, as hard to imagine as that might be.
Will the people in our country ever stand up in large numbers and say the atrocities which are being brought upon foreign citizens AND American citizens need to stop…NOW. Maybe too many citizens have been propagandized to accept loss of civil liberties (and life), are too busy to care, or numerous other reasons. But, one conclusion is that our country is out of control and the only way it can stop is if a number of other countries exert power over us and stop it. I just don’t see it being stopped from within at this point.
To to extent that they have a conscience, we’ll never know. The current treatment of PFC Manning is intended to make certain of that.
AKA: Winning The Future
This is how America Wins the Future aka What The Fuck?
Austerity Measures and Foreclosures for us and fat contracts for Rumsfeld, Eric Prince, The Bush Crime Family and Dick Cheney.
Did you notice her poor grammar when she was here? She’s not very fucking bright either.
No I didn’t notice that.
She prolly got good grades at Wellesley though.
So how many wars are we in now?
Iraq
Afganistan
Pakistan
Libya
Wikileaks/Bradley Manning
And, of course, the endless war on the American people.
did I miss any?
Cameron Munter looks like a guy who kissed a lot of asses to reach his station in life.
I’m sure he knows a lot about Pakistan and its mores and folkways.
I agree. I really don’t know what it will take for the American people to realize we are under attack from all our governments; national and local
I’m surprised you missed them. They caught my attention right away. I was nonplussed!
Yes, good grades.
Yemen
DoD/CIA/State Dept.
Do these people even talk to one another?
I swear, I think each one is waging its own independent war. A strong leader would put a stop to that, but we seem to be fresh out of those.
U.S. hypocrisy and double standards are rising to an even higher level under Zero than under Bush. Amazing.
Bahrain through the Saudi puppet regime
In addition, who is REALLY providing oversight over all the PRIVATE military contractors?
Drugs
I live in the OC, which is somewhat republican.
yesterday I was following an SUV with an Obama “Hope” sticker in the rear windows.
Which was modified with a circle plus diagonal across Obama’s face, and the “Hope” modified to “Dope”. I could not see if there was and FDL or DKos sticker on the car.
There is a level of anger out there
CIA is subject to less Congressional oversight than the military…not that there’s much congressional scrutiny to begin with.
Cowardice, Mc Cain is a Perfect example.
Bloodlusters enjoy blowing up Totally defenseless human beings but would never fight face to face, man to man because we don’t have any real men, just homicidal manics. Before you abuse my view look again at the helo tape we saw .
This country is following Nazi Germany to a tee.
here in l.a., a few months back an Obama “hope” poster on a utility box had been changed to “remorse”.
The elders were mistaken for children gathering fire wood. It could happen to anyone.
Obama, with his beloved drones and rent-a-Rambo diplomats, is driving Pakistan into the arms of the Islamists. Whether the cause is stupidity, as I believe, or a furtive fundamentalist Muslim faith, as many on the right believe, the results will be catastrophic: a nuclear-armed, radical-controlled Pakistan facing a radical Hindu-controlled India (as is likely after the next election).
I’m deeply disgusted and ashamed by my government’s actions.
I suspect the drone operators are trained to not think about any actual human beings being killed by their actions. After all, the Pakis and Afghanis are just “towelheads”, and they’re muslims, so they don’t count.
Is it possible that the “army” is trying to undermine its own operation? Maybe they just want out and since they know they aren’t going to win, isn’t it just better to get kicked out now?
What better way than to continue to kill more innocents until we are told to leave. (“Politicians fault . . . just like Vietnam. We could’ve been contenders but the politicians screwed us all.” etc.)
It worked in Vietnam strike that, I mean Iraq, of course . . .
Once again, the arrogance of the murderous U.S. military is beyond belief.
Why is the U.S. bombing jirga’s in Pakistan? Can the U.S. government present a scintilla of evidence that this violation of international and humane norms is backed by any credible evidence of dire national emergency and defense?
It’s war for war’s sake, to extend the sphere of influence and enrich the few. And creating more enemies (as CassandraBearingWitness notes above) is a good way of guaranteeing more war, which I suppose they want.
Btw, did you see this pretty piece of propaganda by the WSJ, which claims Obama has “lost” track of the freed detainees from Guantanamo, and “Officials fear some Guantanamo detainees who were not held in detention facilities after returning to Yemen may join local militants.” It’s all claims and fear-mongering by unnamed US IC officials. God, the WSJ news section used to do better than this, leaving the crazy propaganda for the editorial page. I guess those days are long over.
a nfz over pakistan is a no go as long as nato and the US insist the taliban and aq as operating from there – this has nothing whatsoever to do with my personal opinion but that’s the reality and perhaps when reagan lauded those freedom fighters that the cia trained, nobody really considered that buzz phrase of ‘unintended consequences’
no – whatever else she is, she is smarter than that but it would be a good investment to train public servants as to what diplomacy really is beyond espionage and inane observations of foreign rulers – observations that don’t really surprise anyone, particularly those governed by those rulers
get real
india is the only hindu majority country in the world but it is a secular republic and the right wing hindu nationalists have not won a federal election for a while despite what happened in mumbai
you are welcome to your anti-india sentiments but get hold of some facts even if they contradict you fantasies
USA is sending drones into Mexico now.
don’t know if they are armed.