10 Responses to Farewell, (former) Alabama Governor Don Siegelman, victim of corrupt DOJ and karl rove

1. yellowsnapdragon August 4th, 2012 at 8:57 pm 1

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2. marymccurnin August 4th, 2012 at 10:15 pm 2

   Out of all of the horrors we have witnessed, this one makes me the saddest. Don Siegelman is a good person and his life has been ruined to suit the needs and salve the frustration of psychopaths. We are so fucked.

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3. shekissesfrogs August 4th, 2012 at 10:50 pm 3

   very good post, but your comment at #15 at the first link should be included to clarify. I wasnt’ sure if he died or was going back to prison.

   There isn’t much difference that I see when comparing Don Siegleman to Gov. Richardson but Eric Holder’s DoJ decided to not investigate –

   Is it that Don was willing to pull back the curtain? Maybe elections are all fixed and in the upper chambers they are in on it. Siegelman crossed the line.

   I recently did some reading about Carl Rove’s history, he had a CIA agent who did some dirty work for him beginning in Texas. He has no compunction against repurposing an agency to achieve partisan goals and will stop at nothing.

   Nancy Pelosi should have taken him out she could have. Last moth she said ‘I Could Have Arrested Karl Rove … But We Didn’t’ when and

   the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee is playing politics with its vote to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress, an action she said that even she didn’t seek as House Speaker when she thought someone was legitimately deserving of it.

   “I could have arrested Karl Rove on any given day,” Pelosi said to laughter, during a sit-down with reporters. “I’m not kidding. There’s a prison here in the Capitol … If we had spotted him in the Capitol, we could have arrested him.”

   Does she think that by letting Republicans off for everything, including contempt they would play nice later?

   She said she learned “owning her power” from her mother who worked to get her father elected – Boston Mayor Alessandro. Her method is to do favors, and call in her own later.

   She decided for the rest of us to take an investigation that would lead to impeachment off the table, she said, because it didn’t further the Party electorally. She said it was a distraction and she wanted to get on with the business of the people.. bills like Telecom immunity, doing away with FISA, or the bank bailout.

   Was this political naiveté, do they know something really bad about some Democrats, or it was simply treasonous behavior- to increase her own power. Is she just content with her seat on top and too lazy to pursue justice?

   But this is just one piece of a larger puzzle.

   We have a selective unwillingness to look back but they did with AK. sen Ted Stevens.
   The WH obsessively targets whistle-blowers, even fabricated evidence like in the Thomas Drake case.
   They are willing to fire on their own- like unions, Acorn or Sherry Sherrod.

   Why?

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4. wigwam August 5th, 2012 at 1:01 am 4

   Outrageous!!! Rec’d.

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5. metamars August 5th, 2012 at 3:27 am 5

   The judge is an ‘interesting’ guy, as well as the venue. Wayne Madsen – the former NSA investigative reporter who never (or almost never) gives his sources (thus introducing legitimate doubt into his body of work) has pointed out a connection of the judge with the 911 attacks, as well as (he says) to the 911 coverup.:

   U.S. Judge for the the Middle District of Alabama Mark Fuller, scheduled to re-sentence former Alabama Governor Don Siegelman on August 3 in Montgomery, was the previous owner of a firm that trained accused 9/11 lead hijacker Mohammed Atta. The information on Fuller’s links to the 9/11 attack were uncovered by a former Republican Party campaign aid in Alabama who spoke to WMR on background.

   WMR previously reported on Fuller’s financial dealings with Doss Aviation, which, among other government business, had the contract to re-fuel Air Force One. Having had trained Atta, as well as Saudi, Iranian, and other Egyptian pilots to fly aircraft, the Colorado Springs, Colorado-based Doss Aviation was in a position to help carry out threats against Air Force One that were received by the presidential airplane’s pilot on 9/11, specifically “Angel is next.” Angel was the classified code word used at the time to denote Air Force One.

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   In 2002, Air Force Lt. Col Steve Butler, vice chancellor for student affairs at the Defense Language Institute (DLI) in Monterey, California, stated in a letter to the Monterey County Herald that “Bush knew about the impending attacks.” Butler was disciplined by the Air Force for his remarks. However, the Air Force appears to have had a good reason to silence anyone who was in a position to shine the light on Air Force culpability in 9/11 and Siegelman, a former Alabama Attorney General and later governor during the 9/11 attack was worrisome to the 9/11 plotters.

   Saeed Alghamdi, one of the Saudi 9/11 hijackers, had reportedly attended classes at DLI.

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   Federal Judge Mark Fuller, who tried and convicted Siegelman and Scrushy, is a current principal of Doss Aviation, a major conflict of interest for a sitting federal judge.”

   The Justice Department case against Siegelman and Scrushy was not staged out of the Federal building in Montgomery but in a 40,000 square foot building at Maxwell-Gunter Air Force Base outside of Montgomery. The use of a military base to carry out a civil prosecution, especially against a former governor, was highly unusual and virtually unprecedented and represented an ominous incursion of the military into civilian law enforcement and the justice system.

   However, when Fuller’s links to Doss and that firm’s training of at least one of the accused 9/11 hijackers is considered, the use of Maxwell, Atta’s one-time duty station, was not unusual and represented an attempt by Fuller and top Justice Department officials to cover-up the Pentagon’s role in 9/11.

   (emphasis mine)

   While tantalyzing, and worth noting in connection to the question of whether Fuller might be a “player” (i.e., corrupt), I don’t see how the persecution of Siegleman can be considered part of a 911 coverup. What would make this argument stick is if Siegelman was somehow pursuing 911 accountability. But, no mention is made of such an pursuit.

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6. funkygal August 5th, 2012 at 4:28 am 6

   Your title should also include “complicit, corrupt Dems”. Dems are very complicit in all Repub frauds:
   voter suppression :did they protest the stolen presidential elections of 2000 & 2004? And what was Eric Holder doing until now while Repubs were going on the offensive on voter suppression since 2011?
   Attacks on unions: Wisconsin and Obama. Need I say any more?
   Attack on democracy : MI financial emergency manager law. What did we hear from top Dems? Crickets.

   And firedogs could add more…..

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7. tjbs August 5th, 2012 at 6:43 am 7

   More like farewell to the illusion we hold of truth and justice, the American way.

   Greed, fraud, treachery, murder and pleasure in others demise is the mindset of the owners.

   karl, grover and the rest of the scum pull our levers of power.

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8. Cliff Arnebeck August 5th, 2012 at 11:20 am 8

   In response to metamars @ 5

   Enterprise, Alabama, adjacent to Fort Rucker, as I understand it, is the base for the criminal business enterprise out of which the Karl Rove/Tom Donohue ongoing pattern of corrupting and stealing elections emerged. Control of the Alabama office of Governor, as well as federal prosecutorial discretion in Alabama, is essential for the protection of the major organized crime enterprise based there, and all of its criminal activities.

   The reelection of Don Siegelman as Governor in 2002 was stolen. (This is the same election cycle in which the Max Cleland U.S. Senate and the Georgia Governor offices were stolen by margins so large that the national media consortium exit polls had to be suspended altogether.)

   Then federal prosecutions were instigated by Rove, Donohue and Bill Canary to block the attempt by Siegelman to regain office in 2006.

   Senatorial holds were placed upon all of Obama appointments as leverage with which to continue Rove picks for the strategic Alabama Middle District U.S. Attorney appointment through the Obama Administration. Obama appointee George Beck had helped set up the key witness against Siegelman by allowing prosecutors to improperly craft his testimony. Beck also served as hatchet man for Rove in lodging a completely bogus and incredibly vicious ethics complaint against the courageous Alabama lawyer who had blown the whistle upon the instigation by Rove of the federal prosecution against Siegelman.

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9. karenjj2 August 5th, 2012 at 2:30 pm 9

   In response to metamars @ 5

   Wow, metamars, the connections to 9-11 are curious as well as more evidence of how wide-spread the ongoing corruption in the u.s. is.

   Thank you, metamars, and all above for your thoughtful comments.

   Thanks, shekissesfrogs, for the clarifying link to my friday comment #15

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10. karenjj2 August 5th, 2012 at 2:53 pm 10

    In response to Cliff Arnebeck @ 8

    How could I have forgotten the outrageous end of Max Cleland and Georgia Governor election thefts?! And the end of exit polls?! I guess we’ve been thrown in the sewer so long that all the $hit has run together.

    Thanks, Cliff, for not forgetting the most egregious crimes in the 2002 election that have become commonplace and unremarkable today.

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