The Republican Party recently told its leaders to call the Obama administration’s new health law “Exhibit A” of a “runaway Washington government.”
But that’s not how longtime GOP health expert Thomas Scully sees it.
“The bill signed by Obama is not a big-government takeover,” Scully told a pro-business audience in Louisville, Ky., last month, adding the new law will result in “an explosive boom for the medical industry.”
Scully, a staunch Republican who worked in George H.W. Bush’s White House and was later President George W. Bush’s top administrator for Medicare and Medicaid, said, “The health care reform bill that passed in March is very much like the Bush 1 plan. I know. Richard Darman and I wrote that 1992 plan.”
Scully, who now works in the private sector, was the keynote speaker at a gathering of health industry entrepreneurs sponsored by the Health Enterprises Network, an affiliate of the local Chamber of Commerce, here on May 27.
Three of us from Kentuckians for Single Payer Healthcare attended the forum, curious to see what the reform looks like to those who seek financial fortune in the health industry.
For-profit companies win, taxpayers lose
Early in his talk, Scully projected a slide on a large screen with a smiley face over the left seven-eighths of the frame and a frowning face over the right eighth.
Under the smiley face were the “winners” under the health law, including the private health insurance firms, pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, dialysis and hospice companies, and disease management groups. Also listed were the device manufacturers who would pay a special tax but would simply pass it on to others and come out ahead. Home health care would take a hit in the short run but prosper in the long run, he said.
On the far right-hand side of the slide, under the frowning face, was the sole “loser”: the taxpayers. (In case you’re wondering, patients didn’t even make the slide.)
While complimenting the bill’s backers for their shrewdness (“The bill is politically smart — the doctors, drug companies and hospitals were bought off early”), he said the new law’s main weakness was its inability to control spending.
“In 10 years there will be $1.5 trillion in new spending,” a half-trillion dollars more than the administration has projected, he said. In short, the law is “a fiscal disaster,” and U.S. taxpayers will end up paying for it.
“Someone will have to raise the Medicare and Social Security age to 70, and we will have to have tax increases,” he said.
His prediction of devastating changes to these cherished social safety-net programs caused no stir in a room full of people sporting health industry badges.
Scully should have some insight into the implications of health reform for taxpayers and businesses. In 2003, when he was administrator for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), he withheld from Congress the real costs of the Medicare Modernization Act, which barely passed in an arm-twisting vote.
The bill blocked Medicare from negotiating prices with pharmaceutical companies, something that has since proven wildly lucrative for insurers and drug makers. The Medicare Modernization Act also gave away the store to the privatized Medicare Advantage plans.
Along these same lines, Scully told the audience, “We need to turn all of Medicare over to Medicare Advantage.”
Likes Obama plan
Scully said he was a big fan of the Obama plan, but he confessed that it was not his first choice in health reform: “Of course, the Wyden plan is really the best thing to do — it gets rid of Medicare and Medicaid — that is the totally right thing to do.”
The bill offered last year by Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., would have put health care financing entirely in the hands of private insurers, with mandatory individual purchase taking the place of employer-sponsored coverage.
Nonetheless, Scully was clearly pleased with the bill passed by the Democrats, which reinforces, not undermines, profit-seeking in health care.
Scully’s last words at the meeting were, “All is driven by money.”
We left even more determined to build the movement for single payer.
Kay Tillow is a native of western Kentucky and is a leader of All Unions Committee for Single Payer Health Care–HR 676.



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Thanks for this diary – recommended
There was even more to report. Scully predicted that states will be trying to save money by contracting out Medicaid to managed care companies bringing even more opportunity for profit.
Shit, every time I think my hate reservoir has reached it’s limit, something happens to show me otherwise. Thanks for this, though, the more proof we have that the HCR bill is a sham, the better.
It is apparent the waste inherent in the private insurance system has ardent supporters in both political parties.Their manipulations wil be the immediate and continuing cause to have dollars ripped from care into the profits of profiteers.Our efforts to speak boldly against this wasteful immoral system must only be exceeded by our determination to push for single payer.This fine report shows the raw nature of this scoundrel,Mr Scully.
All hail Rahm Emmanuel and Max Baucus! They are the true heroes of this bill!!
Thanks so much for this, Kay. So good to have you here.
It’s unfortunate that “bucks up front” has determined the direction of health reform so far. But as Tom Scully’s pro-profits audience was in high glee, thinking of myriad ways to make money off the new legislation (and off the poor, elderly, sick and disabled), he did point out that costs would be uncontrollable and PPACA unsustainable.
As Ms. Tillow says, and every other democracy knows, we need to convert PPACA into a nonprofit single payer system. Build on and improve what we have–support Medicare for All.
You got it, hattie.
Why does anyone think that “insurance” is the way to deliver health care? The “health” insurance industry, as is the same for any insurance industry, has as its goal to maximize profits and minimize pay-outs. This is absolutely antithetical to delivering health care for most Americans. The goal of the “health” insurance companies is to maximize profits. That means taking in lots of money from the holders of that insurance, and minimizing pay-outs. Which means refusing to pay for those who actually use their insurance. This is not the way to maximize “health care for all.” It’s only the way to maximize profits for the health insurance industry. “Single payer.” Period.
That is the conventional wisdom to undo. Single payer non-profit is the only option to any rational thinker who wants best for the afflicted.
Let’s see, Big Deal Law is passed with a $illion help from industry lobbies — is followed by industry projections of obscene profits till the earth runs out of O2.
This is a rerun.
No surprise,after all every last penny we earned must now go to pay
the exorbitant salaries of the health care industry CEOs.
We can thank our Corporate shill Prez for helping corporate America
step on our necks even more.
something is better than nothing
especially if one’s a health insurance or a drug company
and don’t let the perfect be the enemy of
the rich
Thanks Kay; we now have on record what most of us knew all the time.
Never saw that coming….
I wonder how long it will take the people who defended this bill as ‘half a loaf’ to realize they got taken for all they’re worth.
Probably a long, long time. Pity.
Plus, even when they do realize it, since all the Right People were wrong, for the Right Reasons, it won’t count. Just like the Iraq War.
Daily Kos will never realize it. It’s a bill, it’s big, it was signed by Obama, it’s got “health” in the title, therefore it is awesome.
Saying an industry giveaway is an industry giveaway is forbidden there when Democrats do it.
Best description of the Democratic party I’ve heard.
Didn’t we always know that the Senate version of health care reform was a handover of cash to the health care insurance industry?
The individual mandate is their cash cow.
They should be on their knees thanking President Obama for this windfall.
Ordinary Americans are the only losers here…everybody else wins with Obamacare.
The Wyden plan was not a good plan and the “cost saving” were pure illusion which came from assume we would let people just get less and less health care every single year. Anyone who claimed to be a wonk and said they really liked if was proof they did not understand international health care. compared to Medicare for all it is terrible based on every metric.
I’m unemployed, and therefore not a taxpayer, so the joke’s on them! Hahahaha…..oh, I made myself sad.
Book Salon up at the Mothership with Sebastian Junger’s War hosted by David Axe
Hayward’s outing top story on NPR…
Yesterday someone here refered to the healthcare bill as “serf care”. Quite clever, wish I’d thought of it. While some say the bill is something to build on, I’d rather see the whole damn thing scrapped. Redistribution of wealth from soaking the working class to give to billionaires does not work. Never has, never will.
They can kiss my fat ass, I intend to pay the damn fine instead of paying through the nose for half-assed insurance. Once upon a time we used to have laws against extortion. I’d rather die than give the sonofabitches a red cent. Nothing much good happens after 60 anyway,
LOL! Why don’t u tell us how u feel! You’ll have lots of company friend. As for extortion it’s how Gov’t operates these days now that it’s really nothing more then a collection agency for the Fortune 500.
Has the savage irony of a Democratic president and Congress doing what Republicans tried and were excoriated for sunk in, yet? Makes perfect sense, tho, doesn’t it. The Trojan horse trick still works.
I admit I never saw this coming during the campaign. It did become obvious during the rumpus over the health care bill how things were moving and what was next. Just logical that SS was headed into private coffers after health care was safely tucked away for corporations. Alan Simpson was a subtle touch, don’t you think?
I tend to think of Obama as a “sapper”, you know, those military engineering special forces who go in before the battle and destroy bridges and blow holes in walls. They get in, do their work, then get out quickly, making a way for the hordes of regular soldiers who follow and establish a new status quo.
I have come to believe that he has a list of things to wreck, things which will benefit the ruling class. His job is to get in and get out in four years, leaving a trail of destruction behind.
Never thought of the President in those terms but that describes the situation exactly. A “sapper”…
The military gnomes who once borrowed under castle walls and set off primitive charges to undermine otherwise impregnable stone? Yeah, that’s a good description. But I don’t think he views himself that way. Most of us are blind to our destructive potentials. When Anne Applebaum describes political candidates as “egotistical egomaniacs,” she’s diagnosing the problem.
If there are any NJ progressives here, I’d like to hear from them.
Hi!! You got 1 here!!
crlbchr@aim.com No triflers, please. I think starting local and doing what you can where you can really have an effect is the way to go. National elections are exciting but not useful in the same way. BTW, I’m south Jersey.
same here. So.Jersey
In today’s world being right about things doesn’t seem to mean shit.
less then shit.
If the deficit hawks were REALLY concerned and looking for solid solutions to the debt crisis, they’d be looking into cutting Pentagon spending rather than keeping the chattels working longer and stealing benefits from grandma … furthermore expanding and improving Medicare for All makes dollars and sense in every sector of our society. Social Security and Medicare have improved and sustained the lives of millions of senior Americans it’s time, not to regress, but to move forward with improving quality of life for ALL Americans.
Great post. Thank you for writing this and going to the event. Did you consider standing up at the end of his talk to ask a question or make a comment? Something like.
“Thank you for revealing the greedy attitude at the heart of your industry. I just want you to know that I’ve video taped this presentation and it will be playing in the emergency rooms and at the free health care events around the country. It will list your assets and your personal information in case anyone feels that they would like some help. Because I know you are all about helping the sick. That’s why you got into the industry, right?”
Most of those here knew the “truth” about this “historic”!!! reform in health care as did people such as Thomas Scully. The bill was written by AHIP and the Heritage Foundation… does anyone think that would result in a “win” for taxpayers or citizens in general?
In March 2008, Democratic Senator Ron Wyden made the following comments to an AHIP group: “If your profession decides – as it did in 1993 and 1994 – to go out and spend millions of dollars fighting to preserve the status quo, you may delay reform for awhile but you will increase the likelihood of a government run health system with no role for the private sector.” AND “Lots of presidential candidates can tell you that the easiest way to win applause is to “go negative” on private health insurance.”
So, what did we hear? The President went somewhat negative on private health insurers by initially talking about a “public option”. Then the corporate sponsored “tea party” enthusiasts started calling the potential bill “socialist” which it wasn’t even early on (single payer advocates were never even allowed to participate). The media focused on the tea party and those who were not knowledgeable about what was going through Congress, may have believed it WAS somehow “socialist” and actually would benefit them. Where was the President and where were all the members of Congress who should have been telling the truth? Add in conservatives such as Thomas Scully who had no intention of telling the truth BEFORE the bill was passed because he knew it would benefit the health insurance companies and Big Pharma tremendously and “we the people” get this “historic”!!! bill.
FDL keeps getting better and better. Thanks for the analysis and this will definitely be passed on to friends.
Does anyone really believe that any “savings” in SS reduction, or elsewhere in the social welfare corners of the budget, will be returned as lower taxes to ordinary people? Whatever money isn’t spent in social programs will be shuffled right over to the empire maintenance accounts. There are NO savings in social program cuts, these are allocation re-alignments.
Any supposed “savings” from cuts in social safety net programs such as Medicare and Social Security are not about saving money for average Americans. It is just the beginning to rid government of these programs. Conservatives and now the neo-liberals never wanted the “new deal” Social Security program or any other “social safety net” program. As you stated, these are allocation realignments.
Kay- sadly, the title of the post implies that somehow the GOP was behind the HCR law..
it was ALL Democrats who voted for it– not one Republican voted yes — ALL OF THE BLAME FOR THE BIGGEST MIDDLE CLASS TAX INCREASE, WOMEN’S RIGHT TO CHOOSE ELIMINATING, BIG CORPORATE EMPOWERING HEALTH CARE LAW…
BELONGS TO THE DEMOCRATS.
Did you and your HR676 groups come out and demand that the Dems vote NO on this disgusting bill? FDL was almost alone in saying that the price was simply too high to give Obama a ‘win’.
The best hope 676 will ever have is if the GOP takes over the Congress and repeals the HCR bill, and gives real HCR a chance to be debated.
you are right azhealer. I am a recovering liberal democrat. I have fled the party because of Demogorgan George Soro’s controll over the treasonous party.
Republicans had better ideas for insurance reform. Perhaps that is because one in ten republicans in Congress is or was a practising pysician.
I don’t recognize the democratic party any more. They are a bunch of race baiting, poverty pimping opportunists who will shift from being Zionist is Arabist depending on where the money is. Nothing but a bunch of lawyers who’s only talent is convincing people to belive lies. “If the glove don’t fit you must equit.” No one in the democrat party will ever question coruption in their own party. Thata is because the party is the only religion they know.
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Before I launch into a jeremiad rebuttal, please make your case that the Republicans had better ideas for insurance reform. However, let’s agree upfront that health insurance is not health care.
To you………
The point is that there was no basic difference between the GOP bill of 1992 and the bill passed by the Democrats in 2010. Single payer supporters were saying this all along. Here’s confirmation from a Republican insider that PPACA is really good for those who seek profit from health care.
Dictatro Barak Obama is by the corporations, for the corporations. Just look what he is doing for Petrobras and his puppet master George Soros who will win big time by benefiting from Obama’s off shore drilling moratorium, which of course only effects the US.
Obama is just like Mussolini, who in his youth circa 1917 was a Marxist idealogue who then incorporated syndacalism (Union-Thugism) and state corpoatism to elevate him self to the position of dictator. Like so many lefties in American Mussolini thought that religious people were stupid and simple minded. Eugenics came from this abandonment of Christian principles in Europe and embrase of Darwinism.
Of course Obama’s health care bill only serves private insurance companies and Big Pharma. I learned from this very web-site that I will never be able to afford new biologic drugs because of the “greening” clause in the “health care” bill that helps pharma companies to extend their patents indefinitly. Corporate statism is what we got with Obama. Mussolinis Italy only instead of Nationalism it’s Internationalism. And if you ar paying attention to the Helen Thomas’ and Rosie O’Donnels, you will notice a very unhealthy dose of Nazism as well.
America voted for a candidate with a 3/4 of a billion in campaign finance, 1/3 of which is still untraceble. My God what did we exspect?
Enjoy redistributing your wealth to George Soros.
David Dayen is upstairs!
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Good luck getting rid of Obama is 2012. He has cheated in ever eletion he ever ran in. Now he is using the census and 14 billion in our tax dollars to fix the 2012 election. Historicall , the cencus only ever went to the commerse department. Now it goes directly to our dictator. In 2000 the cencus cost the tax payer 4 billion dollars; today it’s price tag is a whopping 14 billion dollars. Thank you uninformed pop culture sycophant voters. We have a charismatic man, with a logo, who is obcessed with race and was emotionally injured by his fathe. Hum, kind of reminds you of someone in Facist Germany. We have a dictator sponsored by G.E.’s MSNBC and Westinghouse’s CBS- both defense contractors, who know the American people find war much more palitable with a democrat in office.
Thanks for this post.
On Thursday I attended a statewide conference put on by the Neuropathy Action Foundation here in Sacramento. At last year’s event I was NAF’s Hero of the Year for my long time advocacy and health education work for people with neuropathy. In my acceptance speech at the time, I shared my despair over the lack of basic health care services, much less appropriate health care for the poor with neuropathy with whom I spoke almost daily as the voice of the Neuropathy Hotline in northern california. With lots of tears, I pled with those in attendance for their support for a full public option provision. Much to my surprise, there was a huge applause for that appeal and for my saying that Middle Class PNers had to start caring about the poor among us afflicted with the neuropathy. Throughout the summer, via FDL and otherwise, I followed the debate and advocated as much as my limited physical and poverty condition allowed until I gave up in disgust in the fall.
This year the agenda carried a lecture on the implications of the bill for us and the talk was, in many ways, pretty much of a hopeless farce, altho it may have helped some folks begin to understand a little about some of the issues we need to be concerned about. I got to speak with one of the speakers who’d been much involved in advocating for appropriate treatment services along the way, and was stressing that in the coming months/years, the real nuts and bolts of the bill that will determine what will or won’t help us will be determined in the state and federal agencies as they write the regs, the best/most effective treatment practices will be defined, etc. He insisted that WE MUST become very knowledgeable and VERY committed to advocating for our needs or there will be no hope, never mind the many potential negative consequences all seniors may be facing in the coming years, etc. While he could say and some of us could agree that we MUST become and remained educated and committed to long term self-educa- tion and advocacy, I knew that most of the folks in that room hadn’t a clue as to how to proceed, didn’t have the mind set, physical stamina or motivation to pick up the banner and charge into the battle. God knows, I for one am really tired of the battle.
Nevertheless, I rejoiced that there are some younger and energetic folks around within our movement that do know, do care and are hanging in. And even the state president of the California Medical Association, one of the NAF board members, was amazingly progressive in his comments and urging us to stay in the fight as he would continue to do for our issues. And certainly the young and incredible NAF founding president will continue to do so.
So, what shall I do with the content of Mr. Scully’s comments? I’ll save them and print them up and hope to get back to them and think about them on the other side of recovering from the two Haiti benefit concerts I’m producing next weekend. Maybe, God willing, I’ll be motivated again, in spite of the anger and disgust about so much that sickens me and makes me pretty hopeless about an America that I want back, as the tea baggers do, altho our longed-for Americas are quite different.
But thanks for the article. Thanks to FDL for fighting this and so many other good fights last year and this year, God willing, many years to come. Thanks to the FDL community.
Blessings,
This is not a complicated problem to figure out, more people with health insurance means more people will be going to the hospital and using medications. This means that the health industry will see more revenue. I think this is good. I come from a small, rural southern community and the largest employer in the area is our hospital. The health bill will create more of a demand for health related jobs in my area. Thank God.
The left said it was a $600 billion welfare check to the corporations that was only worth it if either it came will a public option, or it came with the intent to re-purpose the money for a basic care national health single payer plan in the future.
Guess the folks have concluded it was just a welfare check for corporations.
Obama is the First Black Republican President for those who have not noticed it.
He talks like a Progressive??? Democrat yet he acts like a Traditional GOP Corporate Welfare President.On top of that we have one of the most corrupted amalgam of Legislators ( except for a few) in both US Congress branches. They are not Democrats, they are noy Republicans: they are the DEMOBLICANS.
Inequality in the USA continues to increase at quantum leaps.
Kay Tillow´s article is another clear demonstration of the urgent need of a true leader for this country; one that could guide us into a radical political change that could gives us a reborn Nation from the Social Justice and Equality point of view.
Obama is not that leader.