Obama on Manning: “He Broke the Law”
At a fundraiser for President Barack Obama at the St. Regis Hotel in San Francisco, a group of progressive supporters of Bradley Manning paid tens of thousands of dollars to attend and disrupt the event. Oakland activist Naomi Pitcairn personally paid for tickets so people from her group could attend . The group sang a song with lyrics they wrote expressing their disgust with the way the Obama Administration has responded to Manning’s inhumane treatment.
Someone with the group also managed to confront President Obama on Manning. Obama’s handlers may have been preoccupied because in this clip that runs about a minute Obama opens up about what he thinks about what Manning did.
“People can have philosophical ideas about certain things,” President Obama explains. “But, look, I can’t conduct diplomacy on open source.” He then goes on to add that he has to abide by certain classified information rules or law and if he had released material like Manning did he’d be breaking the law.
Now, here is the remark that deserves the most attention: “We’re a nation of laws. We don’t individually make our decisions about how the laws operate.” He adds, “He broke the law.” Finally, before removing himself from the conversation, he says Manning “dumped” information and “it wasn’t the same thing” as what Daniel Ellsberg did because what Ellsberg leaked “wasn’t classified in the same way.”
First, President Obama says Bradley Manning did it. It is not entirely clear that he did it unless you solely rely on the chat logs published by <em>Wired</em> magazine. Manning is the alleged whistleblower in the case. And, displaying this attitude that he is guilty before he actually is put on trial and convicted may prejudice Manning’s case. In the same way that criminal and civil liberties lawyer Alan Dershowitz suggested former President George W. Bush was prejudicing the legal process against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange when he declared he’s “willfully and repeatedly done great harm” and refused to participate in an event with Assange, Obama was making it hard for Manning to get a fair military trial.
Because consider this: if the Commander-in-Chief openly says a soldier is guilty of a crime, then what are the chance the military hands down a sentence that runs contrary to the Commander-in-Chief?
Second, President Obama’s suggestion that supporters of Manning’s alleged action want the government to have “open source” diplomacy plays to the dominant narrative. Nobody thus far has suggested that all diplomacy be conducted out in the open. Why a number of people support the disclosure of the “Collateral Murder” video, the Afghanistan and Iraq War Logs and the US State Embassy Cables is because of the extent of corruption, human rights abuses, backroom deals, lobbying for US corporations, spying, manipulation of justice, etc.
Finally, the suggestion that the US is a nation of laws and people don’t get to make decisions about how the laws operate demands clarification. He may be right in the sense that the majority of US citizens do not get to make decisions about how laws operate. But, President Obama can make such decisions and has made such decisions. He can wield the power of the unitary executive and outright skirt the law. He can promote a culture of overriding the laws of this country as well.
President Obama can defy a judge’s order, as the San Francisco Chronicle did February 28, 2009, when it filed papers refusing to allow lawyers for an Islamic organization to review classified surveillance documents related to their case. Obama can have his administration file a brief essentially saying, “This decision is committed to the discretion of the Executive Branch and is not subject to judicial review. Moreover, the Court does not have independent power” to grant counsel access to classified information “when the Executive Branch has denied them such access.”
President Obama can continue to allow warrantless wiretapping in the country that explicitly violates laws. He can choose to not oppose the notion that a President can ignore Congressional restrictions on domestic eavesdropping and violate FISA by eavesdropping on US citizens without a warrant.
President Obama can take the US to war in Libya and embrace lawlessness. He can embrace the idea that the President is the “sole organ for the Nation in foreign affairs,” continue the “ideology of lawlessness” promoted by former Bush Administration officials like John Yoo and commit to the pursuit of a mission even if Congress chooses to pass a resolution restricting or outright opposing the mission.
President Obama can refuse to follow a court order and not release photos showing torture.
President Obama can choose to not take apart the legal architecture the Bush Administration set up to give them the authority to militarily detain without charge or trial detainees at Guantanamo Bay.
His administration can cite “state secrets” privileges and prevent torture victims from obtaining justice or compensation in US courts. It can push a “targeted killing” program that could potentially be used to kill US citizens suspected of terrorism, without giving attention to the legal questions raised by such a program. It can prevent investigations of officials who likely violated the law by pushing policies of torture and abuse in prisons.
Most importantly, he can have his administration aggressively pursue whistleblowers and fine tune the law so that individuals like Thomas Drake, who allegedly leaked information about waste and incomepetence at the National Security Agency (NSA) and Bradley Manning, become examples of what happens to citizens that choose to act out against government power and expose the system.
Contrary to what he suggests, if he thinks he can manipulate the law like the Bush Administration, than he can probably release classified information selectively to the media like Julian Assange and WikiLeaks has done as well. Former vice president Dick Cheney asserted in 2006 that he could declassify whatever information he wanted because of an executive order that granted the president and him “classification authority.” Chances are the Obama Administration would be willing to suggest this order still gave them the power to release material (if necessary).
Ideally, the US is a nation of laws but in reality it is not. The Executive Branch led by the President of the United States can choose what legal restrictions to abide by and what not to and it can choose what violations of the law to prosecute and what not to prosecute.
Thus, Manning can become a captive of the American system while soldiers who committed the act shown in the “Collateral Murder” video walk free, while the superiors who promote a culture of inhumanity that leads to incidents like what is seen in the “Collateral Murder” video aren’t held accountable and while former Bush Administration officials that engaged in lawless activity go unprosecuted.



31 Comments

Fuck Obama. He is a liar a torturer a murderer and a traitor.
Great work, here.
This is so typical of Obama.
He always digs in his heels when people call him out on shit.
I’m afraid he’s quietly going to make Manning’s life
even more miserable.
Well, at least he admits Manning is guilty before being tried; that’s a start.
And seriously, why isn’t Wired giving up those alleged communications? Thanks, Kevin.
May I add for the hundreth time of late and categorically without desiring debate, as a progressive Democrat who supported his election with my vote and my wallet, I would not support his reelection no matter the outcome and despite the pretty speeches he will now make on the budget, for example. There is far too much water under that bridge, Manning, torture, etc. etc. As the singing protesters seem to suggest despite their anger they will support him because the GOP is worse…sorry, that’s not my function. I will vote for someone who truly represents me and my views despite the reality that we are now such a nation of worms, it is unlikely that any credible independent opponent will stand up and sacrifice for their nation.
“He broke the law”?
When was his trial, B? Is he serving a pre-emptive sentence now, too?
Should the court of public opinion apply the same standard to presidents too, or do they deserve a trial?
As Michael Whitney says in his post (he got his up just a couple of hours before I got this up here):
Obama is prejudicing Bradley Manning’s case. Plain and simple.
Even Richard Nixon’s criminal henchmen knew better.
http://my.firedoglake.com/teddysanfran/2011/04/22/on-bradley-manning-who-will-be-barack-obamas-john-mitchell
And his Attorney General lets him get away with it.
The same Attorney General who said this in his June 13, 2008 speech to the American Constitution Society:
The world according to Obetrayer:
Bradley Manning: guilty until proven innocent; sentence: indefinite torture.
Financial Criminals: “savvy business men”, sentence: protected from prosecution, lower tax rates, free money from the Fed to loan to Treasury at going rate.
Holder gives a good speech, too.
Well written and argued. And true.
Frankly, IMO, Barack Obama has broken the law by allowing torture, and refusing to prosecute torture, both violations of treaties the U.S. has signed, and which have the full force of U.S. law, per the Constitution.
But it’s not just B.O. Congress has been complicit in this as well. The judiciary, to a large extent, goes along, bowing to the wishes of the Executive Branch. The whole system is broken and hopelessly corrupt.
Thanks
For purpose of conversation, here’s a comment I got on this post over at Open Salon from someone named John:
You and obama, sentence first then the show trial.
Yes, I agree. And the whole system has moved to a fascistic rule by decree apparently.
Nixon said it’s not illegal if the president does it. And Obama, by his actions, says the president’s choices are the only effective law.
Obama should be able to cut about $30 Billion from the deficit now, by eliminating the Department of Justice.
By “you,” you mean John right? Just to clarify.
So this person who posts on Salon is basically saying that s/he doesn’t believe in the rule of law, either, and that all citizens are *guilty* until proven innocent.
Perhaps this person would enjoy similar treatment to Manning’s should they some day run afoul of the law. Guess s/he wouldn’t mind at all being imprisoned without due recourse to a speedy trial, being stripped literally and figuratively, humiliated and tortured, all while waiting indefinitely to see if anything else is going to happen… like a trial, some day… and if a trial occurs, see if the jury has or has not been tainted and prejudiced by the POTUS or someone in similarly high office having already “officially” declared this person *guilty* before the entire nation.
Yeah, I’d love for similar treatment to meeted out to this citizen and then let’s see how s/he feels about it then.
Talk is very very very very CHEAP (and disgusting), indeed.
Very sad reflection on our society.
It’s like The Truman Show where they pull back the curtain on America and show without qualification that we are living in a failed and criminally corrupt state of delusion and massive 24 hour’s a day propaganda. A lawless state with a benign dictator who shoots hoops and fills out brackets and really should have been a trader at Goldman. Supporting Obama’s re-election would be the worst case of Stockholm Syndrome since the Nobel Committee awarded the non-Bush his unearned peace medal!
Fuck Obama.
When it comes to doing something about real war-criminals he gives us the the BS message: “look forward not backward.”
When it comes to a hero like Manning, Obama says: “he broke the law.”
I’ve got it! Obama’s not a Kenyan; he’s a Cardassian from the newer Star Treks! The Cardassians had a most interesting legal system: the verdict was made before the trial even started. The duty of the defense was to persuade the accused that he must freely and willingly accept his guilt. He had to be guilty, otherwise, he never would have been accused!
And once he did publicly abase himself and admit his guilt, he would either be killed swiftly and mercifully or sent to a labor camp. If not, torture forever.
Is Obama actually Gul Dukat?
Yes, he does. Too bad it was empty words….
LOL! Thanks for that. That was from Deep Space Nine, which I really liked a lot but was often considered the “worst” of the Star Trek franchise. Don’t know why.
I forgot about that, but you’re correct. That was the Cardassian legal system and how it worked.
Maybe that’s why Obama doesn’t want to show us his birf sirtifekat??? Because he’s actually Gul Dukat??? ha ha
But didn’t Gul Dukat eventally redeem himself in some way? It’d be nice if that happened with Obama, but I sure won’t hold my breath.
Even more hilarious is the fact that the person who blogged before you goes by the handle “warp9.” priceless. I needed a good laugh, even as I continue to weep for the fate of Pfc Bradley Manning.
Free Bradley Manning!!
Thanks Kevin,
the headlines seem very consistent these days:
Naked Emperor is naked.
This Clown owed Dub ya an apologia for all the tire marks he help put on Dub ya back for torture. His actions are well past disappointment. If those psycho’s on the right want to defeat Superman Light ,here is some advice. They can stop with all the lies ,just tell the truth. This man is a empty suit.
Don’t forget more than $200 million to 2 of their wives.
Concur with you Edger — I like your way of thinking.
The European Kings/Queens called it ” Rule By Divine Right “.
Barack Obama needs to be voted out of the WH in 2012.
Why? Because Obama was elected to be POTUS — not crowned.
DS9 was easily the best trek, with the best story arc.
I remember the episode where Chief O’ Brian was on trial by the cardassians. Ultimately, the Cardassian government was so embarrassed that they had to find another scapegoat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribunal_(Star_Trek:_Deep_Space_Nine)
Just like our government would fall if that proverbial child could see the emperor had no clothes.
wow just used naked emperor in my own comment. I guess it was inspiration by osmosis.
IMHO, Manning probably did do it. He’s not a professional criminal, and he was easily caught.
We need a trial by jury. That way the jury can decide whether the real criminals are the scumbags that lie (our government) or the hero who called foul.