A first-ever presidential Twitter town hall with President Barack Obama kept questions from Twitter users focused to jobs and the economy, avoiding the many questions on the wars, foreign policy and civil liberties issues that have primarily been created because of legislation and policies deemed necessary to prosecute a “war on terrorism.”
The questions touched on: mistakes made during the recession, being realistic on job creation, rising cost of higher education, issuing an executive order to raise the debt ceiling, the possible creation of a startup visa program for immigrant entrepreneurs, promoting alternative energy especially in oil states like Louisiana and Texas, protecting collective bargaining rights and stalling the onslaught from state legislatures around the country, helping homeowners who just can’t sell their homes, jobs, growing small business, tax breaks for honorably discharged veterans, changing the tax system to address the deficit, using the free market to help homeowners, privatizing education, tax cuts, space exploration, welfare programs and, very briefly, defense contracting and the war on drugs.
One can make the argument that this was to be on jobs and the economy and not civil liberties or the wars or foreign policy. But, job creation and the economy is dependent on the wars and the costly foreign policy, which the Obama Administration continues. Also, there are economic questions that can be asked, which touch on civil liberties issues in America.
Here are questions the ACLU asked (none of them were picked up by the curators of the event):
How are you fighting for #fairpay for women after the Wal-Mart v Dukes #SCOTUS decision? #askobama #walmartwmn
Should seriously ill people have safe/reliable access to their medicine w/o the fear of federal prosecution of their suppliers? #AskObama
Should seriously ill people have safe/reliable access to their DoD policy bars health coverage for abortion when servicewomen are raped. Do you support the MARCH Act to offer them full care? #AskObama
Should sick people have to choose between the most effective medicine to treat their illness and keeping their jobs? #AskObama
What is your administration going to do to stem the tide of discriminatory, anti-immigrant laws coming out of state legislatures? #AskObama
R U ready 2 place people’s health before politics by saying no to prosecuting people for complying with state med marijuana laws? #AskObama
Our govt provides insurance coverage for abortion for rape survivors to most federal employees, but not military women. Why? #AskObama
Why is your administration insisting on prosecuting those who cultivate/distribute medical marijuana for sick people? #AskObama
Even extreme antichoice bills like HR 3 included exceptions for rape. Why won’t the DoD extend equal protections to servicewomen? #AskObama
If those who cultivate/distribute marijuana in compliance w/state law can B prosecuted, where shld #MMJ patients get medicine? #AskObama
There were a number of questions on the wars and how they have impacted job creation and the economy from Twitter users. A number of users asking about US foreign policy and why we continue to try to be the world’s policeman. Additionally, there were many users asking about civil liberties as they might pertain to the economy but the curators selected none of these questions. [*I compiled a Chirpstory, which shows these questions were asked by users.]
Why did it seem like wars, foreign policy and civil liberties issues were taboo during this town hall on jobs and the economy?
A “Topic Tracker” image indicates curators were likely monitoring talk on jobs, the budget, taxes, education and housing. It seems likely the curators were tracking those four keywords and finding any questions that had those keywords in the #askObama stream. This is what they were likely doing throughout the event.
However, the moderator of the event, Twitter co-founder Jack Dorsey, asked a few questions that dealt with general or other issues. How were those selected?
If we go by the image and assume it is generally accurate, at one point during the town hall 26% of the tweets were on jobs, 19% were on the budget, 16% were on taxes, 9% on education and 6% were on housing. Add those numbers up and you get a grand total of 76%. That leaves 24% of the tweets unaccounted for and it leaves open the possibility that there could have been more questions on these wars, foreign policy or civil liberties than housing, education or even taxes.
The avoidance of questions on decriminalization of marijuana and questions on the federal government’s role in states as they move to legalize and regulate the medical marijuana industry was very telling. Just after the Justice Department issued a Cole memo offering guidance to states on medical marijuana and federal prosecutions, there is reason to be concerned that the federal government might subvert the will of voters, who have supported state measures to decriminalize and/or legalize the drug. Additionally, members of Congress like Rep. Jared Polis have drawn attention to how medical marijuana can help a state’s economy like it has in his home state of Colorado.
Back in March 2009, the White House hosted an online town hall meeting. Then, as with the Twitter town hall, questions were grouped by topic (education, home ownership, health care reform and the budget). ABC News noted then that many of the questions had to do with marijuana and whether it was time to decriminalize the drug.
Obama, when noting that questions on marijuana were ranked fairly high with over three million wanting him to address the issue, he joked, “I don’t know what that says about the online audience.” Following his petulant quip, he said he didn’t think decriminalizing the drug would be a good way to grow the economy.
President Obama’s evolution on the issue appears to have worsened from being willing to churlishly address the issue to being unwilling to entertain the notion of legalization helping state economies at all.
The Eisenhower Research Project based at Brown University released a study showing the cost of war in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan has cost up to $4 trillion. Notice that doesn’t include any figures on the cost of war in Libya so far or figures on the cost of military operations in Yemen, Somalia or Colombia.
Any serious discussion on jobs and the economy should have honed in on the connection between job creation (or the lack thereof) and the wars and the connection between US foreign policy and the health of the economy and the growing national debt. However, those tweets seem to have been something the president didn’t want to discuss.
But, not even key women’s rights issues like fair pay for women and a woman’s right to an abortion were raised during the town hall event. (There was time, however, to let Speaker Boehner get a question in, like he can’t call a press conference himself if he wants attention.)
It’s notable that the four areas that were deemed allowable discussion topics are all issues Congress will debate. They are areas where bipartisan national consensus has not been achieved or settled. On the contrary, on many issues related to civil liberties, the wars and foreign policy, bipartisan consensus has been established. For the White House, taking questions on those matters would be a nuisance, as it would mean people get their hopes up that Obama was going to actually shift and respond to the concerns of a majority of the population.



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Just like a Bush event back in the day. Only pre-approved questions, or lines of questioning, will be entertained.
Yeah, civil liberties are taboo. There’s bipartisan agreement on that.
Confirmation of what I suspected, over at Raw Story: “#AskObama Twitter town hall ignores flood of marijuana legalization questions.”
Oilbomber did the Twitter rope a dope better than Ali.
You expected it to be more than a messaging event?
Grab yourself a copy of Twitter Marketing an Hour a Day. That’s probably what the “social media” staff has been reading.
Exactly what I was about to say.
We don’t need no stinkin’ civil liberties!
Strong piece, Kevin.
But I thought Barry was the bong master back at Occidental and shit, sucking some sweet leaf. Now he doesn’t want to touch Mary Jane. I thought when boomers got old they’d be cooler.
This event is now equally as farcical, staged and ludicrous as the “meet the public, hear their grievances” sessions done by Vladimir Putin. Infact, Barack Hoover-Bush O’Corp-fascist is probably worse.
Evening news highlighted a question about what Obama thinks he should have done differently to get us out of the jobs recession (not exact wording).
Obama replied that he should have been more careful to tell people that it would take a long time to dig ourselves out of the cratered economy. No mention of real stimulus. No mention that he wasted many stimulus dollars for tax cuts sitting overseas or in corporate accounts….
I don’t believe he thinks FDR really did anything for this nation and is bound and determined to ensure he does nothing which could be labeled “Rooseveltian” or “New Dealish.” And, begone LBJ and the Great Society!
We wuz robbed.
0bama’s no boomer, he’s not a liberal, he’s not a progressive, he’s not a socialist, and he’s not a Democrat. Please do not blame any of those demographics for 0bama’s actions or lack thereof.
Kevin, regards “are all issues Congress will debate.”, I refer you to Powwow’s diary of either yesterday or the day before. Congress doesn’t really debate anything anymore.
Other than that, thanks for a good diary. I’m still not certain that Obama said anything about the DOJ and MedMari though in this forum; did he?
Too many years around right wingers has made Oily O detest FDR is my bet. Like all presidents, FDR was a killer–but at least he sorta cared for the people. Barry can’t get himself to do anything for us. It’s like pulling teeth.
Did he share any tweets with seniors? I hope he explained how he’s going to cut their checks by 10% in the fine print.
But he was a bong master, wasn’t he?
And he’s going to cut Medicare….
For those living on solely SocSec and with minimal other income and savings, the Democratic Party will not be viewed kindly.
But…as Obama tended to say about those womenfolk who supported Hillary…Where ya gonna go, sweeties?
Thanks for the compliment
Great post, thanks.
I disagree. I mean, we can argue about whether there is much or little debate but there is debate.
For example, Congress has debated the war on Libya. They have still been incapable of being anything more than impotent when it comes to checking the power of the Executive Branch, but representatives have tried to force Obama to comply with the constitution.
May be for show but discussion of pressing issues happens. Inadequate discussion? Yeah, most of the time.
These “town hall” performances are one of the most fascinating, although perhaps predictable, phenomenon of the last decade or so. Instead of a real, organic town hall meeting with politicians supposedly representing the interests of citizen constituents responding to unscripted questions, we are presented with the hyperreal, reality show version of what used to be (or could be) a genuine event. What else reflects the abject phoniness of US democracy better than these politically self serving, authoritarian, managed spectacles that inform us of the Right Answers?
The fake trumps and is preferable to the real. Dialogue, information and understanding are replaced by a rehearsed script where, like any show on TV, we all already know the lines, the plot, the outcome and the morality play. And most of us tune in.
Solution: stop consuming them.
Oh, I’ll guarantee ya he was partaking of the local flora while he was attending Punahou HS, here in the Isles…! ;-)
Mahalo, Kevin for this illuminating post…! *g*
“Obama, when noting that questions on marijuana were ranked fairly high with over three million wanting him to address the issue, he joked, “I don’t know what that says about the online audience.””
Why, that’s the same thing I heard Bill O’Reilly say about the audience of The Daily Show. Discredit through name calling. A tried and true authoritarian tactic. “Let me be clear . . .”
These “town hall” meetings are to real, honest, organic, democratic events as a McDonald’s billboard airbrush painting of a Bic Mac is to actual food in your belly. (Well, that ‘s the best simile I can come up with right now.)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=995&bih=584&q=open+salon+cia+ford+foundation&oq=open+salon+cia+ford+foundation&aq=f&aqi=&aql=undefined&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=282l12328l0l34l34l3l17l17l0l266l2594l0.8.6l14
http://oklahoma.watchdog.org/1144/thoughts-on-new-investigation-bombshell-barack-obama-conclusively-outed-as-cia-creation/
http://www.luckinlove.com/obamaciaties.htm
So the way it works, all while B.O. keeps sounding perfect, is
the middle class gets killed, some run to the Tea Party,
and B.O. gets thrilled to death.
So, he’s not actually working for them, necessarily. A fraud to the left, a false one to the right, they are working for him.
For he is the deceiver who was foreseen, though I don’t know if he’s actually the Devil as you think of it.
JFK intended to eliminate the CIA.
copy-paste fast!
where this appears access is getting blocked
Sleaze-ball Cilliza… Obama’s Twitter townhall: A win-win for the White House
What a tool…! *gah*
A casual toker, perhaps. Bong Master is a lifetime pursuit. A true Master would not abandon the pakalolo just because it became politically inconvenient. As with everything else the Big 0 undertakes, he won’t let Truth or Justice stand in the way of political expediency.
The US gov. isn’t trying to be the police of the world they’re the robbers.
Indeed. An important and accurate re-framing.
Par for the course. At Yearly Kos in 2007, La Rue Martin* and the rest of the Democratic candidates for president bob, weave, and dance around a user-asked question about the arrogation of Executive Branch power. It was a thoroughly depressing performance, and I didn’t hold back in my comments on TBC**.
* Martin, who played his college ball at Loyola (Chicago), was the #1 pick overall (Portland) in the 1972 NBA draft–ahead of Dr. J. Martin was African American, had a great game against a tough rival (Bill Walton), and melted like butter at the next level.
** The Big Creamsicle, a nickname given to DailyKos.com. Not to be confused with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
“Wars, Foreign Policy & Civil Liberties Taboo at First-Ever Presidential Twitter Town Hall”
The typical one sided controlled conversation. In other words, you are free to say what ever we want to hear. Fascist Dictator play charismatic common folk. What a joke. Obama is Wall street’s total puppet and a liar like no other. I can only imagine what goes on behind clothes doors.
No tweets for seniors. Democratic pollsters convinced him that seniors couldn’t hear them.
Yup. The DLC has decreed that civil liberties and reproductive rights are “vanity issues.” On the other hand, the party’s 1,598-point plan to get prescription drugs to seniors at a slightly less extortionate price is fair game.
It wold be interesting to know what Obama’s response to an Executive Order to raise the debt limit”. Wouldn’t that be government by fiat, a
final dictatorial straw that breaks the camel’s back. This guy is a total flaming fool…my idea of a true “Tin Man”.
Perhaps, but he was voted in by the boomers, the liberals, the progressives, the socialists, and the democrats — who else? So I absolutely do blame these demographics and will continue to do so. Unless, of course, I am to understand that the votes were not the means by which he gained office, which is not true.
For whom did you vote?
The democrats may be generally better on this issue than republicans (slightly), but not universally so. The libertarians, however, are unequivocally against the war on drugs.
Jesus said to do unto others as we would have them to do unto us. None of us would want our child thrown in jail with the sexual predators over marijuana. None of us would want to see an older family member’s home confiscated and sold by the police for growing a couple of marijuana plants for their aches and pains. It’s time to stop putting our own family members in jail over marijuana.
The current proposal before Congress, bill HR 2306, will allow states to decide how they will regulate marijuana. Email your Congressperson and Senators at http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml and ask them to sign on as a CO-SPONSOR of HR 2306.
For more info, here’s the USA Today article
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/06/ron-paul-barney-frank-marijuana-/1
And a big THANK YOU to the courageous, freedom-loving legislators, governors, and countless others who are working so hard to bring this through! You’re doing a great patriotic service for all of America!