Financing health care reform will be a prime subject of discussion among the Senate and House conferees, specifically how much the financing relies on a tax on high-cost health plans. Supporters of this tax label these “Cadillac” health plans and make the assumption that they provide comprehensive (even lavish) coverage that requires very low out-of-pocket costs from beneficiaries. However, in the dysfunctional health insurance market, high-cost does not equal high-value; and it is not comprehensiveness of coverage that is the primary predictor of who will be affected by this tax, rather it is the size of the firm they work for or the age of their co-workers. The fact that Chevy plans are about as likely to be taxed as Cadillac plans is one reason to be cautious about relying on such a tax. Bivens and Gould (2009) document this as well as other reasons to prefer the more straightforward, progressive financing in the House bill.
One claim for the Senate excise tax has recently surfaced: that health care cost increases have been a major driving force in constraining wage growth and that wages will grow more strongly by curtailing employer health costs via the excise tax. This claim boldly asserts that health care costs are large enough (and the tradeoff with wages is large enough) to drive major changes in overall wages. This is a much stronger claim than saying that there is some tradeoff between higher health costs and wages in the total compensation package.(1)
Jonathan Gruber, an economics professor at M.I.T., argued in an op-ed in the Washington Post on December 28, 2009:
And when firms reduce their insurance generosity, they make it up in higher pay for their workers. We saw this in the late 1990s, when the rise of managed care temporarily lowered insurance costs, and wages rose in real terms for the first time in many years. But as soon as managed care was weakened and health costs rose again, we once again saw flat or declining real wages in the United States. (Gruber 2009)
Others, including prominent and well-respected journalists, have also made the argument recently for a “health care theory of wage determination.”(2) Proponents of this theory point for evidence to the latter half of the 1990s, a five-year period when wages were growing rapidly while growth in employer health care spending was relatively constrained. They contrast the period from 1995 to 2000 with the periods from 1989 to 1995 and 2000 to 2006, when wages stagnated while health care costs grew much more rapidly.
There is logic to their argument, but it is only skin-deep and deeper examination will show it to be simply not true. The logic can be seen looking at trends in health care premiums and wages—wage growth fared better in the late 1990s when health care premiums grew more slowly than in the early 1990s and wages performed poorly in the 2000s, a period when health premiums grew strongly again.(3)
However, digging just a bit beneath the surface reveals the following:
1. Health care costs are not large enough to substantially move wages as these proponents claim;
2. Examination of actual wage and benefit trends confirms that changes in the trajectory of health care costs did not materially affect wage trends over the last 20 years; and
3. The wage behavior described—accelerating in the late 1990s and more slowly thereafter—actually best characterizes wage growth for low-wage workers who have minimal access to employer-based health care. Conversely, this pattern of wage-growth over time is least pronounced for higher paid workers with the most health coverage.
Clearly, this “health care theory of wage determination” is wrong, and other factors explain these overall wage trends. The simple explanation is that productivity accelerated in the mid-1990s, and the low unemployment (and hikes in the minimum wage) facilitated faster wage growth. That this wage growth disappeared entirely in the 2002-07 recovery is not due to faster health care cost increases but to weak employment growth and employers’ ability to achieve increased profitability rather than pass on productivity gains to workers. This reveals a fundamental flaw in our economy: productivity gains are not passed on to higher living standards for workers.
SCALE
It is easy to understand that health care cost trends have not been a significant driver of wage trends when one examines the scale of employer expenditures on health care. Health care costs were just 7.6% of total compensation and 9.4% of total wages (all wages paid, including premium pay, paid leave, and so on) in 2007.(4) The share of health care in total wages (in nominal, non-inflation adjusted terms) grew from 7.2% in 1989 to the 9.4% in 2007, suggesting that the expanded role of health costs could have reduced wage growth by 2.2% over this entire 18-year period, or 0.12% each year. This assumes a complete tradeoff between health costs and wages (if every dollar of higher health costs reduced wages correspondingly). Consequently, employer health costs can hardly be considered a major determinant of wage growth.
Further, overall benefits’ (health care plus all other fringe benefits) share of total compensation has actually been stable for the last 20 years or so—as health costs expanded, pension and payroll tax shares diminished. Hence, the story of stagnant wages in the U.S. economy is not one of growing non-wage compensation.(5)
ACTUAL WAGE AND BENEFIT TRENDS
Digging deeper, consider the changes in health care costs and wages per hour worked in the early 1990s, the late 1990s, and 2000 to 2006, the periods cited by proponents of the health care theory of wage determination.
The data in Table 1 show that wages and total compensation definitely accelerated in the late 1990s, with hourly compensation growth tripling from a $0.22 to a $0.68 annual growth. This alone disproves the theory that moderated health care costs were the primary driver of wages: it was not a change in the mix of compensation between wages and benefits that drove growth, rather it was the simple fact that total compensation accelerated rapidly. After 2000 compensation growth subsided to $0.41 per hour but still remained faster than that of the 1989-95 period.
Do trends in health care costs explain this behavior in compensation or wages? Employer health care expenditures grew $0.03 in the late 1990s, pretty much the same as in the early 1990s, so that hardly seems an explanation. Health care expenditures did grow more quickly in the 2000-06 period (up $0.09 each year).
This greater growth could at most explain $0.06 of the $0.45 deceleration of wage growth from 2000 to 2006 versus the late 1990s. Interestingly, the growth of pension costs is more important than that of health costs. More important, the health care story misses and cannot explain the substantial deceleration (one-third slower) of overall compensation growth in the 2000s.
Most economists would point to the faster productivity growth of the late 1990s to explain the faster wage and
compensation growth. In the early 1990s, as in the 1980s, productivity growth was about 1.3% each year. Productivity growth doubled in the late 1990s to 2.5% annually and maintained that pace in the 2000s. It is the combination of this trend—a faster growing pie—and the lower unemployment and higher minimum wages that allowed workers the leverage to make sure their wage growth kept pace with overall productivity.
But the lessons of the 2000s are also instructive: despite the faster productivity growth there has been no real wage growth recently, either for those with a high school or a college degree (See Mishel et al. (2009), Figure 3A).
There is something fundamentally broken about our economy when workers gain nothing from productivity
growth, and this should give pause to those who assume that when employers lower their health care expenses they will automatically pass these savings onto workers in the form of higher wages. This is an especially problematic assumption given the very high unemployment expected to prevail over the next five years, an environment where workers will have little leverage.
WAGE TRENDS FOR LOW-, MIDDLE-, AND HIGH-WAGE WORKERS
The last piece of evidence on this issue is data on the wage trends for workers at differing wage levels. The same trends discussed above—accelerated wage growth in the late 1990s and the subsiding of this growth in the 2000s—are evident across the board for segments of the workforce that have extensive health care coverage and those for whom coverage is sparse.
This is a point made by Jared Bernstein and Sylvia Allegretto in an analysis in 2006:
About half of all workers don’t even receive employer-provided coverage. According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), 47% of workers did not participate in employer-provided health care benefit plans in 2005. Thus, there is no health care squeeze that would explain the wage losses of nearly half the workforce. In addition, the BLS data show that among workers whose average wage was less than $15 per hour last year, only 39% participated in employer-provided health plans….. low-wage workers also lost the most ground in terms of real wages. Thus, those least likely to get health care experienced the greatest loss in real wages, the opposite of what the trade-off explanation would predict. (Bernstein and Allegretto 2006)
Table 2 shows the wage growth for workers at every decile over the 1989 to 2007 period, including the relevant sub-periods. Wage growth was far faster from 1995 to 2000 than in the 1989-95 period at every wage level. However, the acceleration of wage growth was far greater for low- and middle-wage workers, the groups with the least coverage by employer-provided health care plans: only 27% and 64%, respectively, of workers in the bottom and middle fifths of the wage distribution received employer-sponsored health insurance in 2000 (see coverage by wage fifth in Mishel et al. (2009), Table 3.12). This further reinforces how health care cost containment of the late 1990s was not the major, or even an important, determinant of wage trends. Note that the acceleration of wages for the two highest-paid groups—at the 90th and 95th percentiles—was half that of what the lowest-paid workers enjoyed even though 80% of the highest fifth of earners received employer-sponsored health coverage. This runs directly counter to the notion that health care costs are driving wage trends. Note also that wage growth was substantially diminished in the 2000s, even though productivity growth continued at the same fast pace. In the recovery period from 2002 to 2007 there was hardly any wage growth at all (see Mishel et al. (2009), Table 3.1). The worst wage growth in the 2000s was for low- and middle-wage workers, the groups with the least health care coverage. So, it does not seem likely that faster health care premium growth in the 2000s can explain the disappointing wage growth.
CONCLUSION
The recent claims that trends in employer health care expenditures explain the beneficial wage growth of the late 1990s and the disappointing wage growth since 2000 does not hold up to any careful scrutiny. Health care expenditures are relatively small compared to overall wages, and an examination of the actual trends shows that health care cost increases do not correspond to the major movements in wages or compensation. This is especially the case for the wage trends of low- and middle-wage workers: their wages accelerated the most in the late 1990s and grew the least in the 2000s. The fact that these groups have the least participation in employer-provided health plans confirms that health care is not the major factor that the advocates of this new health care theory of wage determination would have us believe. There undoubtedly is a tradeoff between health care costs and wage growth, but this dynamic does not play a leading role in the drama of the stagnant wages facing workers for several decades and the inability of working families to benefit from rising productivity growth.
REFERENCES
Bernstein, Jared, and Sylvia Allegretto. 2006. The Wage Squeeze and Higher Health Costs. EPI Issue Brief #218. Washington D.C.: Economic Policy Institute. http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/ib218/
Bivens, Josh, and Elise Gould. 2009. The House Health Care Bill is Right on the Money: Taxing High Incomes is Better Than Taxing High Premiums. EPI Issue Brief #267. Washington D.C.: Economic Policy Institute. http://epi.3cdn.net/d4461bae3920d3a28a_7jm6b9314.pdf
Gruber, Jonathan. 2009. ‘Cadillac’ tax isn’t a tax—it’s a plan to finance real health reform. Op-ed. Washington Post. December 28.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/27/AR2009122701714.html
Mishel, Lawerence, Jared Bernstein, and Heidi Shierholtz. 2009. The State of Working America 2008/2009. Washington, D.C: Economic Policy Institute.
ENDNOTES
1 I remain a skeptic that the tradeoff is 100% over any short-run period, especially the high unemployment period ahead. That is a different topic for another time.
2 Ezra Klein, in his (appropriately) highly regarded blog for the Washington Post and in an op-ed, was the first to enunciate this “health care theory of wage determination”:
From 1989 to 1995, median wages actually fell a bit. Then, managed care kicked in. Annual growth in health-care costs fell from more than 10 percent in the early 1990s to less than 5 percent in the late ‘90s. Meanwhile, wages shot through the roof, rising more than 11 percent from 1995 to 2000. Then we ended the managed-care experiment, and health-care costs resumed their normal speed of growth. Predictably, wages slumped back down from 2000 to 2006. (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezraklein/2009/12/lower_health_costs_higher_payc.html)
David Leonhardt, an influential economics reporter for the New York Times, weighed on this as well:
A dollar that an employer spends on insurance is a dollar that’s unavailable for income. This helps explain why the one period of slow growth in medical costs over the last two decades — the late 1990s — was also the one period of rapid income growth. (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/23/business/economy/23leonhardt.html?_r=1)
3 See Exhibit One in this compilation from the Kaiser Foundation: http://www.kff.org/insurance/7672/upload/7693.pdf.
4 See the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ survey of Employer Costs for Employee Compensation, Table 9, ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/ocwc/ect/ececqrtn.pdf.
5 See the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ survey of Employer Costs for Employee Compensation, Table 9, ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/ocwc/ect/ececqrtn.pdf.
crossposted from Economic Policy Institute, originally published on January 6, 2010.





57 Comments







Thank you for this important analysis – much appreciated.
Thanks so much for this, and I agree.
Mr. Mishel: thank you for the considerable effort this analysis must have taken. Very much appreciated.
Nicely done. Thanks for the post.
Thank you for putting serious legs onto the concerns many of us, with limited research abilities, were trying to address in order to promote more dialogue about health care policy and affordability.
Thank you so much for your efforts.
There is something fundamentally broken about our economy when workers gain nothing from productivity growth, and this should give pause to those who assume that when employers lower their health care expenses they will automatically pass these savings onto workers in the form of higher wages. This is an especially problematic assumption given the very high unemployment expected to prevail over the next five years, an environment where workers will have little leverage.
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AMEN and THANK YOU,Sir!
Thank you (!).
When I recall that in the early 1990s, I recall people using typewriters and phones — and having to redo documents by hand! — whereas by the late 1990s most businesses and educational institutions that I saw used word processing and email, this makes a great deal of sense.
This is a core, fundamental, systemic problem that is playing itself out in the area of health care — it’s taken me months to recognize that’s part of what we’re seeing.
Taking two giant steps back, how is it that Wall Street bonuses allow people to ‘earn’ $20,000,000 per deal?
How is it that in 2007, the CEO of Cigna ‘made’ over $25,000,000+ in ‘compensation’?**
Those two data points alone should suggest to thoughtful people, who work hard to build, transport, develop, test, and apply innovative products that the relationships between benefitting society through meaningful economic productivity, and being compensated in some relationship to the value of that activity, is flat busted.
Those relationships are busted, broken, kaput.
And so it’s not a big surprise that we’d see weird effects like the misalignments you point out.
Thank you very, very much for this thoughtful analysis.
I’d love a whole post just on the topic of the last section that I copied — the disconnect between the value of economic activity, and the fact that the ‘market’ does not fairly or accurately reflect that value in far, far too many cases.
** Howard Dean’s “Prescription for Health Care Reform”, p. 45
See what a little homework and a more open attitude toward the data can generate? One might argue with these conclusions, but that would require new data or valid, supportable reinterprations of existing data.
That this post is so lucid – and available without Jane having paid a fraction of $780,000 for this summary – suggests that the administration has not been straightforward or forthcoming. It suggests the administration chose possibly valid, but administration friendly conclusions and only those conclusions. It suggests that it is attempting to foreclose rather than open debate as much as possible in order to drive through its desired outcome rather than to generate the best possible outcome for the electorate.
I have never waivered from my evaluation that Gruber was data mining. Mishal just gives you a small flavor for what the analysis would show if the analyst weren’t ideologically (or financially) driven.
It just occurs to me that Marcy should look into Gruber’s earlier financing. Did he do any consulting for insurance corps earlier in his career before he became the darling of the neolibs?
I asked the SAME question earlier on another thread!
In fact, one month after Gruber got the no-bid contract of June’09 ,in July 2009,BlackStone Group and Goldman Sachs setup a NEW investment interest which neither had done before-insurance. And it is reported it is to be the LARGEST in the country.
Will post article excerpt and link.
Obama is now trying to fudge Stimulus job claims by saying simply any Stimulus money that went to a person’s pay counts and that there can be double/triple/quadruple counts by doing quarterly reports that can be of the same people:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100112/ap_on_bi_ge/us_stimulus_counting_jobs
Obama does bad legislation and then he fudges and is deceptive about it.
Productivity growth stems from the substitution of capital for labor, and the benefits accrue to the owners of capital. The 1960s were a period when both real wages and productivity rose together, leading to the false conclusion that workers benefited from productivity growth. The 1960s were also a time when the unemployment rate spent a long time at or below 4%, a rate in the U.S. that seems to be low enough to force employers to bid workers away from each other. The unemployment rate in the late 1990s ditto, the only other period of that low unemployment since the 1960s. That’s the ONLY thing that makes wages rise in real terms. That’s all she wrote, and the unemployment rate will not get that low for the foreseeable future. The economy ain’t broken. It’s working the same sad way as it did for decades.
BTW, the substitution of capital for labor (leading to productivity gains) is spurred by low cost of capital (zero interest rates, declining computer prices to name two) compared to the cost of labor. Even though medical benefits are not a large percentage of the cost of labor, they keep pushing up total compensation costs. And compared to low or falling capital costs, that’s all that’s needed.
Even if Gruber was 100% right, it could still be bad for the rank-and-file worker. Considering how Gruber is only talking about wage averages, you very well could show the average wage increase go up as a result of this because the fatcats will cut the benefits for the rank -and-file while blaming the government and then pocket the savings for themselves (their wage goes up) so that the average person ends up with increased medical bills and a stagnate wage while the fatcats get wage increases and continue to keep their good health insurance. This scenario of the fatcats getting raises while the average person gets increased medical bills is entirely consistent with Gruber’s claims in support for the bill.
Oh, shouldn’t Gruber’s work as well as communications between him and the Obama admin be obtainable via FOIA? We are paying this guy a large sum of money, so we should see what he’s doing with it. There really needs to be an explanation on why this guy alone needed a no-bid contract as the very nature of arguing “proprietary” is inherently un-”academic” as the scientific method requires people to be able to check and challenge your results – this “proprietary” contract is both unacademic as well as going against the interests of the taxpayer.
Here’s Mishal’s bio from the Economic Policy Institute website:
Gitcheegumee January 12th, 2010 at 11:29 am 115In response to Gitcheegumee @ 108 (show text)
Strictly an observation:
It has been stated that Dr. Gruber’s contract with HHS began in June,2009.
The very next month, here is an interesting development:
Blackstone, Goldman Sachs Back New Insurance Agency (Update1 …Jul 7, 2009 … [bn:WBTKR=BX:US] Blackstone Group LP [], Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Credit Suisse Group AG are backing a new US firm marketing insurance …
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=as... – Similar
Daily Kos: Blackstone, Goldman Sachs Back New Insurance AgencyDec 21, 2009 … Blackstone, Goldman Sachs Back New Insurance Agency … Firms including Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley have been investing in middlemen to …
http://www.wordtrippers.dailykos.com/story/2009/12/21/55037/425 – Cached
Blackstone, Goldman Sachs, Credit Suisse and ING Launch Independent Insurance Group
Posted by Alex Finkelstein 07/07/09 3:06 PM EST
(NEW YORK, NY) – Already among the behemoths of the real estate capital industry, The Blackstone Group, Goldman Sachs, ING and Credit Suisse are branching out into a new field – insurance.The companies today jointly announced the formation of Insphere Insurance Solutions, Philip J. Hildebrand, a nationally known health industry executive, is CEO of the new group.
Philip J. Hildebrand
Hildebrand says that as one if its initial solutions, Insphere Insurance Solutions plans to have a marketing agreement with ING, a leading global banking and insurance company, to distribute the company’s term life and universal life insurance products.
Hildebrand says Insphere Insurance Solutions expects to be the largest independent career agent insurance distribution group in America, with a force of 3,500 agents and offices in over 40 states when the company commences services in 2010.
This new company expects to be the nation’s largest independent career agent distribution group offering life, health, long-term care and retirement products for small businesses and the middle-income market.
Gitcheegumee January 12th, 2010 at 11:03 am 108
This proprietary simulator that Dr. Gruber has developed, would it be possible that OTHER entities could contract with him to develop, oh say ,financial forecasts?
Would his contracting to HHS disallow him selling his services, so to speak, to say Insurance companies or firms like Goldman Sachs?
Jus’ askin’
NOTE: This is from the Jane Hamsher thread entitled, Jonathan Gruber, Paid Obama Consultant
All,
I really appreciate the supportive comments on this analysis. You can find much more of this at EPI’s website, http://www.epi.org. Much more analysis of wage, income, employment trends are available at http://www.stateofworkingamerica.org, including downloadable graphs and tables form the chapters of the book.
I do think Gruber’s claim about the wage impact of lower health care inflation in the 1990s (and the reverse trends in the 200s) was wrong: The simple tale seemed to support his policy desire to curtail health care costs via the excise tax but digging into the details shows that health care costs have not driven wage trends. This does not mean that lower health care costs might not lead to better wages, just that the scale of the impact won’t move wages appreciably.
I may differ with many of you on the site though in that I don’t impugn Gruber’s motives. I don’t think there’s much of a scandal regarding his contract with HHS. I think his error in the case I’m criticizing is that he’s a health care economist and doesn’t know the details about wage trends. I, on the other hand, have been studying wages for thirty years or more. Gruber clearly over-reached with the argument about health care driving wage trends and has acknowledged that to me privately (yesterday).
So, I think he’s wrong on this issue and I also disagree with him on the overall merits of the health excise tax. But I think he’s a pretty smart, reasonable and straightforward economist. I’ve had to debate some pretty scummy economists and he’s not one of them.
Larry Mishel
Thank you. More discussion on affordability needs to be the focus. I think FDL was for a long time trying to address affordability. No one listened. We need to get back to that focus and the merits of our concerns on the affordability for the average person (middle class) and the dynamic of health care costs and wages.
It appears we need a variety of economists overlayering their expertise in order to get a clear picture of how to do healthcare.
I understand your differing with the site on the contract concerns. That said, it has finally unlocked the stronghold and suddenly the dialogue is opening to address affordability.
Wish it did not take a “blow up discovery” to be heard and have so many valid questions brought up here over the months, in honest discussion, to finally be validated.
Ding ding ding. Affordability is the whole problem and nothing in either house or senate bill addresses that issue. Both bills just shift costs from one party to another.
Solutions to lowering costs of coverage and increasing availability of care to EVERYONE have been offered here at FDL for what seems like eons, but of course, our Elected Offals didn’t really want THAT kind of reform.
Trials, convictions, sentences. Pitchforks and ropes are good, too . . . . ;-) /slipperyslopemods
First of all, thanks for the analysis. It sure looks like there hasn’t been a lot of correlation between health care costs and wages in the last couple of decades, that’s for sure.
On the subject of Prof. Gruber, the problem I have with him isn’t that I know (or even suspect) that he’s deliberately distorting his analysis to fit the Obama Administration’s objectives. The problem is that he didn’t disclose his relationship with HHS while writing all those articles and appearing on TV. All the questions about why he might have hidden that relationship just naturally follow. When his analysis doesn’t reflect the reality we see, that’s all the more suspicious.
I now realize that he’s had contracts with HHS going back to at least 2002, but that doesn’t change the fact that he didn’t declare that relationship, nor does it excuse the Obama Administration for seemingly pretending it didn’t exist. Gruber was commenting on a politically important matter in a way that benefited the political appointees who were in a position to give him further work or to not give it to him. That is distinctly different from being an impartial observer.
Rayne published a graph showing Gruber’s total contracts( going back to 2000-2009)this past Sunday, on a Seminal thread entitled Follow the Money.
There is much additional info there that may be of interest to you.
The grand total of all these Gruber contracts is astonishing.
You need to get involved in the public debate. I know that you are not the darling of the
WO admin, but EPI’s publicity folks should help you get op-eds, media appearances, etc., and help you rewrite this perfectly fine essay to breezier op-ed style. I was a Wall St. economist, and I would have particular suggestions if you want.Why not? My only work on this subject was wrt macroeconomic forecasting almost 2 decades ago, and I instantly recognized Gruber’s work as data mining. He picked a small example that fit his foregone conclusion. What could make an economist think he is serious?
I appreciate your analysis, it’s a fine job and clarifies a lot of ‘hokum’ being blown by those in support of the excise tax proposal in the Senate Bill.
However, in regards to Gruber?
He was contracted to HHS (thru the WH), paid by us taxpayers, and then failed to fully disclose his entangling alliances with WH needs and dictates regarding Health Care Reform in his many self penned articles, treatsies, and such.
That’s deceptively fraudulent as far as I’m concerned. And it’s not likely to have been an omission of carelessness.
I don’t care if he’s your brother or best friend forever . . . . I’m not concerned if he’s a good guy or not.
I AM concerned the White House, Gruber, HHS and all those publishers of his writings advocating for the Senate Bill (a noted piece of shit I hope you will agree with me on that) all failed to mention that he WAS contracted to HHS and was likely parroting a large and lively version of Health Care Reform preferred and advocated by Obama/Rahma that was bought and paid for by the insurance industry, by PhARMA, and by the medical delivery industry.
This is not a casual oversight, this is outright collusion and fraud for personal gain and should be investigated and prosecuted as such.
Again, thank you for an incredibly literate and sound analysis that you crafted and shared with us, we are all better educated for your work.
The excise tax seems to have less of an impact on health care costs – or none at all – but a variable impact on health insurance costs.
It is health care that Americans need, and more of it. This administration chose to address that need first or solely through addressing greater access to insurance. It chose a narrow path. It seeks to bolster what objectively seems to be a badly broken, poorly regulated system of private insurers, subsidizing them with customers and money (as if they were banks). It may hope that somehow this increases access to care, but it certainly buys corporate support for their continued rule.
If insurance becomes more expensive, people will buy less of it and, consequently, obtain less health care, even if the government subsidizes the insurance they do buy. Calling Rube Goldberg, calling Mr. Goldberg.
OTOH, if insurance is driven down by tax policy, and people get it for “free” at work, then we’ll see some combination of benefits cut and shift of share of cost to out of family’s pocket. It is clear that our progressive administration is bent on financing health care through the most regressive means possible. Shifting costs from employers to employees’ out of pocket is one means towards that.
Driving down health insurance premiums through taxation has not been demonstrated to drive down health care costs. What’s to encourage insurers to negotiate for lower reimbursement rates if they can just pass the costs off to patients in skyrocketing copays?
Since the government has largely left the disorganized, poor and weak regulation of insuresters intact, then driving employees to less expensive health care plans means they will receive less health care. The devil remains in the details, but that will also likely increase insuresters’ profits directly, even before they count the money from their 30 million new, government mandated customers. Nice work if you can get it.
Oh, and how many companies need one more cost or burden to make them quit providing health care benefits at all?
Mr. Mishel, I do not impugn Mr.Gruber’s motives, I have no way of knowing what they were/are, and no basis whatsoever for ascribing malevolent intent. That said, I do believe Mr. Gruber should have been more forthcoming in his disclosure, as should have the White House and DHHS. But that does not mean their were bad motives about; simply that they should have been more forthcoming on such an important and contested issue. I agree we should now delve into the hard facts and implications, for they are severe as to the merits of the excise tax, which as currently configured is at the critical core of the entire health insurance reform effort.
Statistics, graphs and models are fine. But, my experience is that the dramatic annual increases in heath insurance premiums has had a direct and significant impact on wages.
My experience is that one has had very little to do with the other. Whether it will in individual cases is related to what kind of work you’re doing, whom you’re doing it for, what the market is like for both the employer’s services and yours, and what regulatory changes have occured.
While my instinct says it has had a huge impact on wages (ins offered as part of the compensation package, rather than salary), let’s talk about the COST to both employer and employee and how THAT’s greatly inflated, and how that impacts productivity and employment.
Presently, I know someone at $65K annual, who has ins that costs in TOTAL more than $12K on the part of the employer and the employee, at a roughly 80/20 split . . . . that’s almost 20% of the salary that’s added in ON TOP of the salary.
Tell me employers don’t get hurt with that level of investment in health insurance for workers?
And inflated and inflating and growing costs of providing health insurance (the senate bill is NOT going to reduce those costs) are forcing and have been forcing employers to eliminate their health insurance.
And that puts MORE costs on to the employee . . . . who is now working for the same wages, but can’t afford his/her own insurance at 100% of any junk plan that’s available . . .
So, we got ourselves a real problem . . . and we KNOW how it happened, why it happened, and how to fix it.
But our government, elected officials and our White House and President signed a deal with insurance, PhARMA and Big Med to ensure there will be NO regulations to force competition, ensure care or lower prices for consumers of health care insurance. But there WILL be a mandate for everyone to buy insurance, whether they can afford it or not . . .
And Gruber is smack ass in the middle of how to FUND this monstrosity and has been obviously LESS than relevatory about his alliances much less his means of earning a buck or two.
‘K, I’m done, sorry Cujo . . . always love your comments . . . . I wandered off your reply to OldGold a bit, I confess.
*G*
Well, there’s no way that evidence can substitute for personal experience.
As Disraeli said their are lies, damn lies and then there are statistics.
Plus, as an ecahnomist on this site said last week:
And went on to type that didn’t mean that the link worked in the opposite direction. The tie between my earlier evaluations and Mishal’s work is more fully explained in the second paragraph at comment number 9. That is, rising health care costs, even though Mishal demonstrates that they are insufficient to explain arithmetically the stagnation in wages, are nonetheless significant enough to explain why, relative to the very very low costs of capital, labor is still expensive. And that is still true. So taxing medical insurance benefits will not help labor, nor do anything other than shift the cost of medical care from employers to workers.
Comment peut-on faire si mal?
Gruber clearly over-reached with the argument about health care driving wage trends and has acknowledged that to me privately (yesterday)
WOW!
Will Gruber publicly admit this?
Has he or the administration publicly acknowledged this “overreach” yet?
This is a true twilight zone experience for me. This post appeared earlier, then disappeared into cyberspace before being reposted. I sure hope that teh cyberspance genies don’t do it to me again, otherwise I’ll have to check myself into an institution.
Diaries aren’t easy to find here. Try finding a diary I wrote three months ago on the bill to punish ACORN. If you happen to be in a thread I’ve commented on, it’s fairly easy – just go to my page and then go backwards. If it’s someone who hasn’t commented in a while here, Google is probably going to be necessary.
There’s lots of stuff here. I don’t know a better way to organize it, but considering that they haven’t done any of the easier things I’ve suggested over and over again, I’m not going to bother thinking about it very much.
Oh no, it literally disappeared. You can easily find diaries by googling firedoglake and a key word in the dairy. This one was taken down for a period. Not sure how long, perhaps only the 14 minutes between my comment at 13 and gitcheegumie’s at 14.
Rayne has a graph on her Seminal thread entitled “Follow the Money.”
Hope this links.
Eli is upstairs!
WaPo Salon Guy Sticks With What He Knows
Oh, oldgold, I also reserve the right to change my mind if new evidence, like this post, should cause me to change my mind. So I thought carefully about my prior commments. Which is why I decided to change the language from what you characterize to language which looks at the relative costs of capital vs. labor.
OT, but:
Tell the FCC to Stand Up for Net Neutrality! – deadline this Thursday..
http://www.savetheinternet.com/fcc-comments
Yup, got mine this afternoon and signed and sealed to FCC . . . .*G*
We’ll see where THIS goes, as it’s one of them prog fronts being assaulted across the spectrums of our lives.
Healthcare, wages, jobs, civil rights, women’s repro rights, LBGT rights and of course, the public airwaves and our means of communicating with each other . . . social security, medicare, medicaids, all entitlement programs, all social services programs . . . . all under siege, like never before . . . .
On Gruber, if you read what he wrote over the years you wouldn’t notice any difference between a few years ago and now. He was heavily involved in the Massachusetts health reform effort and the ultimate bill is along those same lines.
I don’t think he’s been bought. The way things work, in my view, is that people contract with those who agree with them. So, the administration contracted with Gruber. More transparency was warranted, for sure, but I suspect there’s really not much scandal here.
Larry Mishel
Okay, so they want to tax health insurance premiums over a certain amount to keep down health costs. They say that this would be a wash for employees because employers would shift funds from benefits to wages.
What’s wrong with this picture?
First, how does taxing health insurance premiums keep down health care costs? Taxing anything at a certain level tends to discourage consumption at that level and drive consumption down to a level where the taxes are less onerous.
So we now have employer paid premiums, the cost of health insurance, being driven down to a level, but does that impact on health care costs, both the price charged by the provider and the reimbursement rate from the insurer?
Is there a case to be made that the aggregate driving down of premiums in response to a tax would exert any downward pressure on the price per reimbursable procedure or bed night? If so, can anyone point me to a link that describes the economics of how this would function?
Most likely, employers will simply cut insurance subsidies to employees to avoid or minimize the tax. That will mean fewer dollars going into insurers and fewer dollars being paid out through limited coverage and higher out of pocket expenses. Some might keep the lexus plans they have and possibly cut wages or keep them from rising faster in the future to cover the better health care.
This is an end game to cut both wages and the level of health care covered by insurance by driving down insurance premiums.
A more effective approach to driving down costs would be to set a baseline on current reimbursement rates and to tax the increase over that.
What am I thinking, that doesn’t screw over patients enough.
Let’s not forget
Thanks to
Watt4bob @195 (ew chronicles)
For bringing mishel’s article to fdl’s attention.
Watt4bob’s concern was the
Privitization of the
Public health service.
I’d like to hear
More about this issue from watt4bob and others with opinions on this issue.
Thank you Dr. Mishel for the informative and timely post.
Your views are appreciated on this important issue.
The information and links provided are already useful, and will be in the future I am sure.
Your analysis of this issue is concise and understandable, which increases its value to those interested in this topic.
Hi Larry, Everyone loves your analysis, but you said”
And also:
But consider, Gruber is presenting himself as an unbiased economist delivering a professional opinion and yet he is not disclosing that he was contracted to the Administration specifically to advise Obama. He’s received Government Grants and contracts for some years now totaling very substantial amounts as academic grants and contracts go. As you say, people contract with those who tend to agree with them to begin with. But what happens after that? They’re in a monetary relationship with their sponsors. Will that relationship continue if they publically state views in opposition to their sponsors? Is it even more likely to continue if they actually argue for the poltical view of their sponsors?
Of course, this doesn’t mean that Gruber was crassly bought, but it does suggest that the incentives are in line with his finding justifications for what the Administration favors. You said yourself that he over-reached his background and qualifications advocating strongly for the conjecture that the excise tax would result in wage increases. But why would someone with careful academic and scientific training so over-reach?
My conjecture is that he’s left objectivity behind and has become an advocacy economist who functions very much like a lawyer, assembling arguments and evidence to serve his clients. That doesn’t mean his arguments are necessarily wrong or invalid; but it does mean that they are biased from the get-go in that they are designed not to find the truth, but to support a political position.
In other words, while I don’t think the Administration bought him initially, I do think that in developing his relationship with them he has fit into a role in which he trades support for their views for continued support of his work through grants.
I know that it is easy to say that we cannot know Gruber’s motives and so cannot tell whether the maintenance of his support over time was “bought.” But nevertheless the situation with Gruber is not greatly different from what we see everyday in the Congress. A particular industry makes contributions to a particular Congressperson or Senator who agrees with them on some position or other. And they keep doing it. From the outside looking in people say that Congressperson or Senator has been “bought.” The reply to such charges is always: “Nonsense, they’re just contributing to my campaign because I agree with them.” Nevertheless, if they stopped agreeing the contributions would stop, and somehow they never stop agreeing and the contributions never stop or grow smaller and their alignment with the health insurance companies, or the power companies, or some other special interests is unvarying.
How is this any different than what we see in the relationship of Gruber to the Administration?
Have you checked out Rayne’s Seminal thread entitled “Follow the Money”-posted Sunday?
She has a graph of Gruber’s contracts from 2000-2009 totalling $3 million dollars!
Incidentally, when Gruber worked in the Clinton administration in 1998-1999 ,he (Gruber) credits Larry Summers for getting him the job.(There’s a link for that).
Gruber was also a student of Summers,in addition to them being frequent racquet ball partners. The MIT/ Harvard association runs through both their academic vitae.
And, as you know, Summers is presently one of the economic advisors “bending the Prez’ ear”,all while Gruber is attempting to “bend the curve.”
Thanks Gitcheegumee, I had seen Rayne’s post. I’ve noticed there’s a lot of academic incest in the Obama Administration surrounding the Harvard/MIT axis. In economics particularly, that amounts to an unquestioningly allegiance to the neo-liberal perspective. The other shoe is now dropping on that one. It is the over-riding concern with deficit hawkism, and a systematic tendency to ignore the newer economic work in Modern Monetray Theory and Value Economics. That work suggests that the only appropriate time to be concerned about the deficit is when inflation presents itself. With our economy operating at about 70% capacity right now, a deficit hawkism prescription amounts to slow national suicide.
We must not let the Administration tell us that they have no money for this or that urgent social need. We have the money because we can create it, and Obama’s responsibility is to solve our urgent national problems. Inflation is not one of them.
For many years I was a Union worker and part of our negotiated benefit package was health insurance. Since the “package” was for a fixed amount, when health care costs started to escalate, wages went down equally. Then years later I started my own company and had to deal with rising health care costs from the other side. By this time the Union had bargained that wages would not go down and the companies would pick up the extra cost. Over 15 years health care costs nearly doubled to me. So some observations: Insurance companies invest in various vehicles to increase their profits. When the markets get weak, then the investments do not perform and the profits are reduced. When that happens premiums are increased. My wife used to work for Prudential Property and Casualty, and their costs were about $1.03 for every premium dollar received. Obviously the investments is where they made their money. I suspect it is the same in the health insurance industry.
As an employer I can only speak for myself, and I can say unequivocally that I will not raise my employees wages if my health costs go down. In the past Union contracts that would have been the case but not now. Wherever an employer can reduce costs and improve the bottom line, they will keep the money if they can. It doesn’t matter the source of the increased profits, or the savings, or whatever you want to call the extra money. That is the whole purpose of a business. So if the administration or the Senate is counting on this being the case that a company will increase wages if its costs go down then they are tilting at the windmill.
Follow the Money: Your Tax Dollars Bought Jonathan Gruber’s Services
By: Rayne Sunday January 10, 2010 10:30 am
Isn’t a microeconomic firm-based analysis more useful than a macroeconomic trend-based analysis here?