Taking candy from a baby: A consortium of Chinese and American companies goes to Washington and announces plans to build a $1.5 billion windmill farm in West Texas using $450 million in U.S. Stimulus funds, which will create 2,330 jobs — 2,000 of them in China.
The baby — Washington — doesn’t cry or whine or spit in the consortium’s face. That’s what’s really wrong with this story.
So accustomed to being bought and sold, Washington simply begins processing forms so it can hand over your tax dollars to create jobs in a turbine factory in the city of Shenyang, China at a subsidy of $193,133 each.
It’s like these bureaucrats live in Wonderland. Or an America where the unemployment rate isn’t 10.2 percent. Or where 40,000 American manufacturing facilities didn’t disappear in the past decade. Or where banks didn’t repossess nearly a quarter million American homes in the past three months.
We’ve got a message for Washington: Hell no! We’re not giving tax dollars to China. What’s wrong with these businesses and our government? It is the $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. It’s not the Chinese Recovery and Reinvestment Act.
It’s bad enough that we’ve off-shored our factories and technology and jobs over the past 20 years. We’re not off-shoring our Stimulus cash too. In fact, we’re tired of serving as the schoolyard wimp of the world. We need our own industrial policy so we can stand up and compete in the world market manufacturing the likes of wind turbines. And we need it now.
China has an industrial policy. And it uses that policy to dominate. Here is how Keith Bradsher of the New York Times described China’s policy to become a world leader in renewable energy, which of course, would include construction of wind turbine factories:
“Calling renewable energy a strategic industry, China is trying hard to make sure that its companies dominate globally. Just as Japan and South Korea made it hard for Detroit automakers to compete in those countries — giving their own automakers time to amass economies of scale in sheltered domestic markets — China is shielding its clean energy sector while it grows to a point where it can take on the world.”
China protects its chosen industries in many ways. It provides low interest loans, some of which don’t have to be repaid. It may give free land on which to construct buildings. And there are other perks that Bradsher described:
“When the Chinese government took bids this spring for 25 large contracts to supply wind turbines, every contract was won by one of seven domestic companies. All six multinationals that submitted bids were disqualified on various technical grounds, like not providing sufficiently detailed data. . . even as Chinese companies that had never built a turbine were approved. . .”
Later, Bradsher describes European disgust at the Chinese treatment:
“European wind turbine makers have stopped even bidding for some Chinese contracts after concluding that their bids would not be seriously considered, said Jorg Wuttke, the president of the European Union Chamber of Commerce in China.”
China has a policy. It ruthlessly protects its own industries.
China was among the many countries that complained bitterly when the U.S. included “Buy American” provisions in the Stimulus Bill. In fact, Vice Commerce Minister Jiang Zengwei told a press conference in Beijing in February that China would not do such a thing, “We won’t practice a ‘Buy China’ policy,” he said. Four months later, that’s exactly what China did, instituting its own, stricter “Buy China” policy as part of its economic stimulus program.
China did what China felt was necessary for its economy. And it ignored foreign criticism.
That’s hardly the U.S. tactic. Wilting under criticism, Congress diminished the Buy American provisions before passing the Stimulus.
As a result, we’ve got a consortium — U.S. Renewable Energy Group, Cielo Wind Power and A-Power Energy Generation Systems – so bold that it believes it can get nearly half a billion dollars in American Stimulus money for 2,000 Chinese wind turbine jobs. The consortium says it would import 240 Chinese turbines to Texas where 300 temporary construction jobs would be created and another 30 permanent jobs established.
The wind turbines could easily be made in the USA. Bradsher, of the Times, says the Chinese concede that while their turbines cost slightly less initially, they have higher repair costs. He wrote, “United Nations data from trading of carbon credits shows that the Chinese-brand turbines produce less electricity because they are more frequently out of action.”
Really, is that what we want to buy with American tax dollars for a wind farm in West Texas?
If the United States put half the effort into supporting its renewable energy industry that China does, there’d be no way this consortium building windmills in Texas would be looking overseas for turbines.
China has a plan. In its strategy, it doesn’t consider America first or the remainder of the world first. And that’s what the USA must do. We need an industrial policy that makes no apologies for putting America and American workers first. And when that’s the calculus, no American official would ever countenance a request to give $450 million in American taxpayers’ dollars to a turbine factory in China. And no American consortium would consider making such a stupid request.
In the meantime: Hell no! They don’t get our dough!
Leo W. Gerard is the International President of the United Steel, Paper and Forestry, Rubber, Manufacturing, Energy, Allied Industrial and Service Workers International Union, AFL-CIO, CLC. Gerard has also served on the U.S. National Commission on Energy Policy and is a founding board member of the Apollo Alliance, a non-profit public policy initiative for creating good jobs in pursuit of energy independence.



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great article thanks very much.
That is one hell of a good article, leowgerard. Thank you very much.
it’s not our tax dollars. fed gov spending is not dependent on taxes or borrowing.
you do understand that we send them the equivalent of paper and they send us real stuff in return?
the problem isn’t china. the problem is out own fucked up economic policies.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2006/apr/21/thankyoupresidenthu1
Thanks selise for the very good link.
I think this overstates the case a bit. As US consumers buy foreign goods in excess of US made goods there is a net transfer of real US dollars to foreign makers of those goods, it is not paper.
If the the Chinese government, say, then chooses to use those dollars to buy US debt that’s their choice. But the debt they are buying with US consumer spent dollars is not just paper, it has the value they paid for that debt. That US debt the Chinese are now holding is a real asset not just paper. That is until the US would ever not make good and default on that debt.
The fact that the Chinese now holds so much US debt is destabilizing and here I think we both agree that the best thing would be for the US to start producing enough goods for its own consumption and exportation. Certainly the sort of green tech products that it will need for its own use.
if we were still on a gold standard, that would be true. but we’re not. again, on the macro scale, dollars are not a store of national wealth.
(i think i may agree with you about the issue of destabilization, but that is another issue entirely and one i’m not so sure of yet)
Excellent article! I’m sure the consortium feels that having an American company build the product with Union Labor would be too expensive. The fact that the money comes from Americas means nothing to them. I’ll bet the consortium has also figured out a way to pay no taxes.
Glad to see this; even tho Selise is correct, we still should be protesting this.
Go here to let Secretary Chu know what you think of the ‘deal’.
signed
Thanks, signed.
Leo Gerard is one of my heroes !
Thanks for the link! Signed up to tell Sec. Chu to stop sending my tax dollars to China to create jobs there and spend it on creating jobs HERE IN THE USA…
Crickey!
There’s at least one company building parts for wind turbines right here in the US – they build the steel towers, at least, and they’re doing it in Southern California, which means with real air-quality rules.
Thank you Mr. Gerard for writing this post for us.
hell no they don’t get our dough
This makes me so mad. It’s not like there are no Wind Turbine Manufacturers ready to actually make the blades here in Colorado
It’s sad that it’s not a local concern, but the jobs are indeed manufacturing, and local.
Right now gov’t needs to get employment going here in America. So, why should we send money overseas?
BTW, why can’t the consortium issue bonds to borrow the money they need for this? That would be a good solid investment for some people and building them here would employ people and result in better quality products with less shipping costs and easier assembly instructions (no Chinese to decipher).
Are these “free market Capitalists” just looking for a free hand-out?
when did american first become a bad thing?
When Ronald Reagan became the decider for American manufacturers – and claimed that we no longer had to actually make anything in the US.
reagan did that, first by destroying the union concept and then by initiating deregulations which exported our jobs and set teh template for dismantling our economy
imo, destruction of unions was a big step in creating our low wage economy.
I agree with you but must add that GWB while on Vacation 33% of the time has sucessfully wiped out our economy. Mission accomplished.
I dont want a 195,000 dollar wind turbine from china..i wont even buy a 150 dollar guitar amplfier made in china because they are complete landfill stuffing. garbage. Junk. trash. maybe thats why they’re so “cheap”???? except its not cheaper if you have to buy a new one every week. LANDfill stuffing.
thanks for raising the issue of environmental destruction. i agree 100% that’s a real problem.
What kind of amp do you use? lot of nice guitars made in Korea now.
A while ago I heard ( never checked it out) that Canadian logs were being shipped to China, processed into plywood, and returned to Canada for sale.
I know, that whole raw fish caught off the Candadian east coast are shipped for China for processing. processing factories in the maritimes closed.
An underdiscussed,part of this trade problem are the laws of the sea, which permit registering vessels in countries without shipping laws, terrible conditions for crews, and no enforcement of oceanic environmental laws.
Changing those would change a lot.
Okay, I read the article but still don’t know what is the outcome? Are we giving the $ to this company to create the jobs in China? Or are these going to be built in the US with US workers?
Appears prox 2,000 jobs in China, prox 300 in Texas
Thanks Kelly. I thought that’s what the outcome was but one can hope. How much easier can the Administration make it for the wingnuts?
What makes me mad is, folks like Leo are absolutely right … Chinese products are inferior in build quality to American products, so repair frequency is higher. This is a bad deal, no matter how you look at it.
Concur!
P’raps I wasn’t clear; all 2400 jobs should be done here. We are missing an opportunity of a Green Jobs Civilian Conservation Corps.
You were clear, I was reinforcing your point … wait … ;-)
….all 2400 jobs should be done here. We are missing an opportunity of a Green Jobs Civilian Conservation Corps.
that makes so much sense, it should not even require being said.
We have to address our own energy problems – we have to address a screwed-up economy and 10.2% unemployment.
And these two don’t somehow symbiotically fix each other because…?
They will help over time. Right now though people need some quicker results. Doesn’t mean we can’t do both of course.
only because we refuse to adequately plan and fund one here. the problem is entirely of our own making and not the 2400 jobs in china.
didn’t that emergency repair to the bay bridge in sf that later broke break because it was inferior chinese steel?
That’s what I heard too … nice to see that Chinese products get to bypass the safety standards set for domestic products.
Anyone else remember when WalMart’s big promotion was Made In America? I think this predated the happy face.
Funny how once they drove their competitors out of town, they dropped that campaign.
Actually, I think if you read this piece, you’ll realize that Wal-Mart had to drop that campaign once they’d squeezed their suppliers so hard for price points that the only place they felt they could go is offshore. http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html
They ended the campaign when Sam Walton died and his children (I presume) took control. I think maybe they’re all Chinese, Indonesian or something.
I became aware of Chinese industrial policy through listening to a podcast between Georgena Terry (of Terry Bikes) with Richard Schwinn (yep, THAT Schwinn), where he explained how the Chinese had used bicycle manufacturing to build their aluminum capacity (for military use) and had now moved on to carbon fiber (also for military use). Fascinating conversation. http://www.terrybicycles.com/podcast/page/2
scroll down and look for “Steel Really is Real”.
Chinese industrial policy and educational policy are totally intertwined — we have…neither.
We too should be making more carbon-fiber stuff. If we can take all the carbon output from coal burning power plants to make it we’d be rollin’ in dough and enjoying lighter cars (& stuff) with better gas mileage.
that is a real problem — we need a sensible industrial policy, actually we need a sensible economic policy. but that problem is ours and has nothing to do with china.
As someone who has written specifications it is very easy to write a set of specifications that would put the chinese blades out of the running.
I continually remind myself – our domestic problems are not due to the Chinese; they are due to our system.
I keep telling my wing-nut dad (whom I constantly remind that I am working, he’s retired and I am “socializing” his medical care)that “Hey, we need a level playing field!”
A big chunk of the cost of import/export is healthcare. Germany is actually the largest net GDP exporter country, and they have a funky form of single payer; it’s definitely not employer borne.
If we as a people invested in healthcare in some sort of non-employer borne care, our costs are lower and product more competitive abroad. We could become the biggest net exporter again.
It’s a total win-win, but we just can’t seem to get it together to do so, and that just ain’t the fault of the Chinese.
as the source of the world’s reserve currency, we can’t become the biggest net exporter without throwing the world into deflation (and killing lots of people). but that’s a separate issue and not what i want to focus on….
you’ve touched on a key, perhaps the key issue: how do we build a high wage economy vs the low wage economic model both the Ds and Rs have put us in? universal healthcare, not tied to employment is a great place to start!
building a high wage, full employment economy — that imo should be our goal. not competition with, or protectionism from, china with a low wage economy.
This is why Barack Obama needed to put American Health Security in place.
Why anything less is just that and will not move American employers out of the health insurance regimes that are fouling American manufacturing base.
Take all healthcare functions out of American employer domain. Move this critical economic component,social component into Federal function.
The debate that has been raging in WashingtonDC over the past six months has not ever fully been focused on this very real need to reshape how Americans berth healthcare access,who provides it and how employer based current regime is not competitive on global economic play field.
Instead we get dumbed down spittle about killing grandmas and the evils of government run healthcare coverage. And it only gets dumber and dumber with talk of opt outs,triggers and letting for profit health insurers frame the debate with general lies and misdirection.
Take American employers out of the healthcare provider function.
American Health Security is and always has been the natural twin to American Social Security.
Without this shift taking place American economy is and remains at real and growing disadvantage.
Too bad Barack Obama decided to go with expedient instead of excellent.
As Americans discover the American economy is not going to recover and the new jobs are not going to show up anytime soon to soak up job loss carnage of last ten years the Democratic Party deserves to be crushed election after election. Stupidity should have consequences. Barack Obama took the easy road. He deserves a detour in 2012 and his party then too.
The GOPers have gone to CrazyTown. The Ds went to JelloSpineVille.
Nothing is more worthy of contempt then the Ds now trying to polish this turd they are trumpeting as healthcare reform. They missed the real target.
Dumb shits.
don’t you know we export factories and job
Michigan incentives weren’t enough to lure wind turbine manufacturer
By Julia Bauer | The Grand Rapids Press
October 14, 2009, 3:35PM
WindTronics wind turbine, designed for residential use, was developed by a Muskegon company.MUSKEGON — When Michigan and Muskegon pooled every incentive package they could tap, the lure still was not strong enough to land the first factory for homegrown wind-turbine company WindTronics, LLC.
Instead, WindTronics turbines will be produced by 174 Canadian workers in an old Magna International auto-seating plant in Windsor, Ontario, helped by a $2.7 million up-front provincial grant. Production in the $5.4 million facility will begin as early as January
http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/index.ssf/2009/10/michigan_incentives_werent_eno.html
Yes they will send our tax dollars to China, and every last goddamn job. They can burn down this country and turn us into Somalia and they will and they are. Sorry but I see zero effective resistance, maybe I’m just tired.
Happy tenting, America.
Very good article.I just don’t know when are people gonna get it that Dems or Gop don’t give a hoot about the average American welfare,Corporations are OK not you and I.I heard Randi Rhodes ,Obama loyalist,trying to convince her listeners that Obama & the Dems are being picked on,as these policies were put in place long before.
Yeah,but as Prez with a Dem congress with sizable majorities he just can’t do anything about it.Go figure.
Absolutely sickening,remember some of the same people in the 90s were yapping on the radio that outsourcing were gonna be good for the average American.
These policies aren’t gonna change unless we get in the streets folks.
Perhaps you have not listened to her very much and for very long. We can disagree about the Obama Presidency but Randi Rhodes is no apologist for anyone. She was out front for years fighting the Bushie Crime Family. Randi Rhodes is frequently “unbridled, caustic, and indignant”, but she fought against torturers and won! The Irak mercenary corporation CACI brought a lawsuit against her because she accused them of being torturers.
Sorry, OT: Very Good David Brancaccio/PBS.
Signed.
An injury to one is an injury to all.
Namaste SD !
That was a very interesting article. I would hope that Washington can keep those jobs here in America.
you better wake up america, call your congressman/woman & tell them this isnt going to fly!!!!!! that we will hold them accountable!!!!
Thanks for the great post. There are numerous new solar and renewable technologies that could be done immediately. Could we use pension funds, and IRA’s and and other sources of investments to fund these job creating ventures? NO!
Goldman Sachs and the rest of the Most Brilliant Thieves In The Universe used the hard earned savings of working people to bet on risky mortgages, CDO’s and other deals still secret. These “investment bankers” are just a criminal cabal who will continue to loot the country and outsource even the “green jobs” to China. Who are these people in this “Consortium” and why do they hate America?
We need to change the incentive structure a bit to make it a lot less profitable to shift paper around with no productive outcome and more toward real productive commercial activity. That’s one reason I’d look at lowering corporate taxes (perhaps to 0%) to shift that incentive structure. It wouldn’t be easy of course. So much is tied to corporate taxation. But, as with healthcare reform, it could be a big win if done right.
I owned a mutimillion dollar corporation and it never paid a penny of tax in it’s whole existance. You have been listening to the Republicans to much.
They move operations overseas for cheap labor so they can sell the stuff back here making huge profits, not because of taxes. There are no taffifs so selling stuff made there means huge profits.
Second to cheap labor is they don’t have to pay for healthcare, in most of the countries they move to.
there are no tariffs for re-importation. its like they get all the benfits of slave labor with none of the fussy extra cost! what a deal!
We keep blaming China, and all these other Countries for selling us their foreign goods, when most of it is contracted to be made their by our Corporations.
exactly!
who is exploiting who? frequently, it’s the same people exploiting both american and chinese workers.
you know, this president is so far showing one of two things;
1) he is as corupt as the previous administration, taking money from the corporatists to do their bidding
or
2) he is as big a moron as the previous president who does not see the that corporate health does not mean economic health
take you pick, one of these or the other, possibly both but I can’t think of any other reason he continues worrying about “global corporate health” rather the stateside economic health.
the man is a complete disapointment as of yet
Great Post.
But should we now be upset over these turbines when we have let our manufacturing base, jobs, and Nations wealth go to China.
The odds are that the Manufacturer of those turbines in China is either owned, backed, or supported by an American Corporation.
General Electrics turbines are manufactured in Brazil.
We should be upset that these things can be made there. and brought into this Country with no tarrifs. Probably made there by American Companies at almost slave labor, so they can be brought here and sold making them huge profits. Companies that escape many of our taxes, get tax breaks, and invest their profits overseas.
I’m reading the article posted by selise and I disagree with a few things;
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that’s a good thing, we do not need products comming in hear produced by child and slave labor, and we need to start producing things for ourselves again instead of devolving into a third world country who has to buy everything it needs
as I said, that’s a good thing, we need to produce those here
first of all, the middle class is already over taxed, congress would have to get those funds from the class who’s taxes have been reduced, again, that’s a good thing
interest rates are far too low, money shouldn’t be free, again, raising those are a good thing
then the government can award tax relief to those industries that need growth, like cooling the planet and alternative fuels
and the government can give tax releive to those companies investing in their labor, investing in health care and investing back into stateside growth
agaiin, a good thing
clearly, yes, he says “of course not” to put the wrong answer in our own heads
and here’s another great thing that would happen;
china would be forced to spend those dollars here, they would be buying our goods, putting our country back to work
yes that would cause inflation and possibly devalue some assets through that inflation, assets like real estate, remember when they bought assets in new york like rockefeller center?
how did that work out for them?
the only real concern would be the hyper inflation caused by the dollar dump, the problem of goods no longer avaiable from china is as I said, a good thing
now remember, through this economic crisis money has literally evaporated, if we were to obsorb any money with little pain rght after money evaporates would be a very good time
hi perris, thanks for reading the article and thanks for the reply. i completely agree with you on the issue of child labor and indeed on the issue of labor exploitation of any kind. i was trying, in that short comment, to address the economic issues, especially jobs/employment, and the fallacy of sending “our tax dollars to china” only.
i also agree that, as a matter of security and national sovereignty (but not jobs) we need to maintain a dynamic r&d, design and manufacturing infrastructure especially in targeted industries. and in the case of alternative energy, i’d argue that is indeed a very critical industry for us to develop and maintain — but not for the number of jobs.
on the issue of taxes and interest rates, unless stupid political decisions were made (and yes, we seem quite capable of that), from an economic perspective that would only occur if we were at or near a state of full employment — since that is not the case today, not even close, the situation is quite different. (the article was written in 2006).
the important point, for me at least, of that article is that although at the micro scale, for you and me, dollars are a store of wealth, it is not the same at the macro scale. dollars are not a store of wealth for the country and we are not “sending our tax dollars to china.” our national wealth is not in dollars, it is in our people (are they educated and healthy?), our natural resources and environment, out infrastructure, our knowledge base, our educational institutions, our research, and the productive capability of our economy (not just manufacturing). the fact that we can import some things from china means we can spend more of our own efforts on other things, things that are also necessary. it’s not because of trade that we do not have full employment, that is a red herring. one that low wage economists like larry summers would like us to be distracted by. it is our own economic choices, especially fed spending (the amount and where it is spent) that keeps us from full employment.
galbraith and mosler again:
Perris, you’re not considering the role the dollar plays as the ‘reserve currency’; the chinese have PLENTY of places to spend their dollar reserve and are doing so in SA,Africa,SEAsia,AND Europe.
actually.. I’m pretty sure the Chinese build decent wind turbines, and to a high environmental and safety standard. Not all Chinese industries are equivalent in poor quality there, and their renewable energy tech rivals anybody’s, with capabilities comparable to our own.
But that isn’t the point. The Chinese stimulus is nearly a trillion US equivalent to date and virtually ALL those jobs stayed in their country. Heck, their stimulus, unlike ours, was incredibly successful in restoring job growth, whilst ours was not. And now our Congress wants us to spend a few hundred million of OUR stimulus to create jobs over there. This is craven corruption on the part of our leaders. Paper deal or not…
A second consideration is environental. If we are committing to develop cleantech industries in the US – industries where both the products and processes of manufacture are sustainable, then we should not be increasing our ecological footprints by importing capital equipment from 8,000 miles away…. even if the quality is equivalent or even marginally better. Whatever that differential is, it won’t pay for the trip, in terms of extra carbon footprint.
This deal is nonsensical. If Shenyang company wants to supply turbines to a US site, let them set up a plant here and build them domestically, in our own company.
“increasing our ecological footprints by importing capital equipment from 8,000 miles away”
Excellent point, Blub.
perris: I like your thinking, too.
The Chinese government has a lot more power to put people to work and they have the money to do it. America is far in debt and simply can’t afford to spend borrowed money the way it might like. Still we wen’t from -6% to +3.5% pretty quick. Did the Chinese make a change of 9.5 percentage points of direction?
But isn’t Washington Too Big To Fail…?
IIRC, a large portion of Chinese leadership have backgrounds in Engineering. I think that like GWBush, many in D.C. have degrees from Biz Schools.
Wonder whether that could be a factor…?
Dunno, but 237 Congresscritters are millionaires which could also be a factor in their reluctance to vigorously “lift all boats” and, instead, keep the Titanics afloat. Sigh.
Seems like everywhere you scrape in Congress, there is only filth and corruption and a hemmorrhage of public money down a rathole.
So many seemingly disparate problems affect the country that it is hard to prioritize and to see where action can be best directed, before the country goes down the tubes altogether.
Campaigning and financing for alternative primary candidates to Reid and Lincoln would be highest on my list, since they seem vulnerable. A strong message needs to be sent and ought to begin now.
Down a “rathole” huh? I’m guessing you don’t think the stimulus money spent so far has done anything at all. Too bad.
If YOUR SOME POOR BASTARD. WHY WOULD YOU EVER VOTE FOR A MILLIONAIRE TO BE YOUR REPRESENTATIVE?
BECAUSE YOU PICKED ONE OF TWO CHOICES, and probably one from your party, which you support wholeheartedly. So the very voting you thought was for your interest, has worked against you.
Less of the all-caps shouting, please.
Thanks
I guess it didn’t help you get the point.
Just go back to George Carlin, he’s said it once, he’s said it hundred times, you are not apart of the ruling class, there for you are not invited to the table.
Does it surprise anybody that even when we get the “Green Jobs” rolling, so many of the products will end up installing on Wind Farms, Solar Farms and on our homes will be built in developing nations with cheaper and less restrictive working environments?
We have to address the Trade Problems first before any consideration of a far reaching policy like Green Energy.
Just like its likely the first train set California buys for its high speed rail are likely to come from Canada, Germany or France
Senator Chuck Schumer called to restrict the stimulus funds to be used in the 600MW wind farm joint venture in Texas, which is made up of A-Power Energy Generation, U.S. Renewable Energy Group and Cielo. A-Power owns 49% of the JV. The project is expected to get funding from the Commercial Bank of China (around $1.05B) and $450M from the US stimulus package. So Sen Schumer is supporting President Obama’s policy to develop renewable energy, but assails the $450M being taken from stimulus. His reason is simple: the $450M will be used to create jobs in China, not in the US. Well, it looks that way, however, he ignores that $1.05B will be from China. China is financing the major part of the project. Sen Schumer is not seeing the full picture here.
A-Power formed a joint venture with General Electric (GE) to develop wind turbines earlier this year. According to the announcement, GE owns a majority stake in the business that will serve as GE Drivetrain Technologies’ Southeast Asia manufacturing center starting in mid-2010. Now it is clear that turbine shipped from A-Power is at least 50% owned by GE. In other words, China’s $1.05B investment in the 600MW project is going to create jobs associated with GE.
Open your eyes wider and you’ll see an even bigger picture as China recently granted First Solar a 2GW solar farm project when Chairman Wu Bangguo of the Standing Committee of the National People’s Congress of China visited the company. The four-phase 2GW solar power plant will receive total RMB$10B(~US$1.6B) from China’s commercial bank. So again China is financing the project, and it’s benefiting First Solar, creating jobs in the US.
If you restrict $450M to the wind farm project in Texas, why would China give this 2GW project to First Solar? China has better solar PV technology than the US. Companies such as Suntech, Solarfun, Trina Solar, JA Solar and Yingli Green Energy all are capable of doing as good a job as First Solar. China took the first step to cooperate on renewable energy between the two nations. There is no reason the US should say no to A-Power’s wind farm, especially when President Obama has been diligently promoting a renewable energy policy since he took office.
My take on this is that U.S. Renewable Energy Group and Cielo will tell Senator Schumer he can have his $450M back and they will finance the entire deal through Commercial Bank of China and the deal will proceed.
That wasn’t in the post. Interesting. Does that make it a worthwhile deal?
Let’s see, china puts in a billion and their people go to work.
America puts in $450M and we get 300 jobs and windmills.
Hmmm. It’s not entirely clear the American taxpayers would go for this. Maybe if the gov’t, on behalf of taxpayers, would get a good return on investment….
That’s not in the article either. Is there more we need to know?
“Hmmm. It’s not entirely clear the American taxpayers would go for this”
but 98% of them will never know about it. It would be “protectionist” for the MSM to run these kinds of stories..maybe even “nationalist”, and if that dosent shame you into shutting up… even….”racist”
it should. these kinds of stories that pit chinese workers against american workers are appealing to economic nationalism. and of course we’re human so the appeal more or less will work unless we fight against them. first because they are based on economic nonsense. and second because our natural allies are chinese workers — and not the american or chinese economic elite who use appeals to economic nationalism in order to divide and conquer.
Getplaing, you’re an idiot, no doubt employed by the China bucks lobby.
Those “American” companies in the joint venture? They are “private equity” firms, built on 99% Chinese cash, dummy.
GE is the BIGGEST outsourcer in American industry. There are firms – like right here in PA – that can build those wind turbines. GE has always been about getting that 25% annual ROI, and you can’t do that while paying a living wage in America. You CAN do it paying less-than-subsistence wages to displaced farmers in China, and they are running there as fast as they can.
You are a paid whore. Go away.
The world´s biggest wind turbine company is Vestas, a Danish company. Denmark pays workers decently and has a robust social system, which suggests that building wind turbines can be done anywhere (i.e. it is a sufficiently capital-intense activity unlike shoes or textiles). If America wants to create a lot of jobs in the renewable energy sector, let´s see some real commitment, say, like a 50% reduction in greenhouse gas emissions by 2020. China, the world´s other big coal burner, is on track to doubling its renewable capacity every year. Can the US say that? Moreover, one of the big changes in renewables is the localization of power extraction (e.g. ground-based heating) or miniaturization. Reusing the logic of Richard Feynman´s original nanotechnology lecture – there is plenty of room at the bottom. Finland, for example, has three firms making ultra-compact windpower systems. US? Zero.
Great Article and Hell no money to China. Example – Chinese Dry Wall in Americans homes.
aren’t we all sooooo angry. to bad we can’t do anything about it. this government is bought and paid for, so shut-up, pay your taxes, watch your football, and don’t concern yourselves with our governmental process. or….. what? what are you going to do? huh? type some more angry notes? you really think your reps in dc care? please!!!!!! only one thing will change it…. VOTE THEM ALL OUT!!!!! all of them!