On September 19, Ezra Klein favored us with an analysis on health care reform in the WaPo. Coming off the results of the Kaiser Family Foundation’s 2009 Employer Benefits Survey, Ezra makes the following points:
”The truth is we all pay, and much more than we recognize, for health care. . . .”
” . . . Employers pay some, and so do individuals, and taxpayers. And some even hides [sic] behind the deficit. As such, few of us see the full picture. . . . ”
So, we, the people, don’t have a clear idea of the true cost of health care and the true magnitude of the national problem that faces us. But what is that cost? Ezra continues:
”The average health-care coverage for the average family now costs $13,375, according to Kaiser. Over the past decade, premiums have increased by 138 percent. And if the trend continues, by 2019 the average family plan will cost $30,083. . . . .
I have to say I wonder a bit about these numbers, the source of which is the Kaiser Family Foundation survey. As near as I’ve been able to estimate, US average costs per person for health care are now about $7500 per person. Indeed, this estimate may be a bit low. But assuming it is not, and that average family size is 3.1 persons (as indicated by US Census data), then US health care costs for the average family are running about $23,400 per year, or $10,000 higher than Kaiser’s estimate of average premium cost. What accounts for this discrepancy of $10,000 per family? We know that the health insurance companies are profitable, and are not losing $10,000 per family. So some thing’s wrong here somewhere. Again, Ezra continues:
”Those are numbers to marvel at. Those are numbers to fear. But they are not the numbers that loom in the minds of most Americans. And therein lies the problem for health-care reform.
”About 160 million Americans receive health coverage through their employers. In general, the employer picks up 73 percent of the tab. This seems like a good deal. In reality, that money comes out of wages. . . .
”Another 80 million Americans are on public plans, mainly Medicare and Medicaid. Those costs are paid by taxpayers. And about 46 million Americans are uninsured. The costs for their care are shifted to the insured: This raises premiums for the average family by $1,100 each year . . . . “
These numbers also seem a bit off. There are, according to the Census Bureau’s population clock, about 307.5 million Americans today. Ezra’s figures add up to 286 million. Are the remaining 21.5 million Americans all covered by individual private insurance policies? That seems unlikely. But, however many millions there are in this group, they do feel the burden of the full tab. Ezra goes on:
”That’s the dilemma for Washington wonks trying to fix this mess: They look at the numbers and see health-care costs crushing our economy, overwhelming our government, swallowing our wages. But the public isn’t feeling it. Virtually no one cuts a $13,375 check for health care. Most pay 27 percent of it, or even less. The surest way to cut health-care spending would be to make people shoulder more of the burden directly, as opposed to hiding it in taxes and lost wages. But that’s about as popular as a puppy pot roast. . . . “
There’s another discrepancy here, other than the amusing theory that any “Washington wonks” would ever even try to fix this mess, rather than just perpetuate it so that they could continue to practice their “wonkery.” What people pay in premiums is not what they pay for health care in toto. There are also co-pays, deductibles, what they pay for prescription drugs, and also whatever charges they pay for illnesses that their insurance companies end up refusing to cover. That amount is probably substantial, and may account for much of the $10,000 average annual discrepancy between premium costs and health care costs, I pointed to above. Also, is Ezra really advocating that we subject everyone to much more of the true cost of health care than they pay now, so that even fewer people will sign up for health insurance than now, and even more people will be going to the emergency rooms and increasing that burden on those who remain insured? Or is he suggesting that if people were subjected to the true costs, then all of us would, through new legislation and its effects, get the insurance companies and providers to completely overhaul the whole health care system to cut costs substantially? If everyone knew the real cost, what exactly would they do to see to it that costs were cut, and what effects could we expect from such action? Back again to Ezra:
”The problem for the White House has been that the proposed health reform policies meant to help the average American aren’t specific. They’re not a cash transfer or a new insurance card. These are the "curve benders," policies meant to cut long-term health-care costs. The problem is they’re abstract, speculative and, at times, even unpopular.
And then Ezra reviews these “curve benders.” According to him they include empirical evidence about which medical practices are most effective, followed by adoption of those practices; the public insurance option; taxing health care benefits; and popularizing high-deductible insurance plans. For each of these, he points out current political difficulties in getting them adopted, and tellingly, he also ignores the biggest “curve benders” of all, “Medicare for All,” single payer proposals like HR 676 and S 703. Then he really comes to the point of all this palaver:
”If Americans felt the full burden of health-care costs, they’d likely be clamoring for all these policies, and maybe more. They’d want transformational change. But they don’t feel those costs, and so they’re resistant to change. . . .”
The WaPo narrative which Ezra appears to share with other WaPo reporters is that it is a fact that Americans don’t want transformational change in the health insurance industry, and so are resistant to it. This fact then requires an explanation, a theory, that because Americans don’t experience the full costs of their health care, they are resistant to transformational change. So, if only they experienced the full burden of their health care, they’d be hell-bent on it. The truth, however, is that the fact Ezra assumes, the fact of widespread popular resistance to transformational change, is not a fact at all. Many surveys over the past 6 months have shown that the American people are in favor of either a single payer health care reform proposal, or one featuring a public option providing all Americans with a choice of a Medicare-like public plan; both pretty transformational compared to the present system. Some people are resistant to reforms like this, but they are a relatively small minority. They’ve been active in demonstrations throughout the summer, and the media have duly played up their actions. But they are far from either being the American people, or expressing their preferences.
Americans, in other words, in the heavy majority, are in support of transformational change in the health insurance system. Those who are not, the resistance which Ezra posits, are in the health insurance industry, or are politicians representing the industry who have received contributions from them, or are people who have been mobilized by lobbying organizations working for the industry, who make use of their anti-government, anti-modernist, anti-intellectual, anti-science, and other resentments, or are among the media who want to construct a narrative to absolve themselves of the uncomfortable responsibility of criticizing a system where congressional support has been plainly bought and paid for by the health insurance industry. It’s they who are blocking the transformational change, and not the American people.
I think that Ezra, and the WaPo more generally, are trying to create a fictional narrative to account for what they think will be the coming failure of health care reform. Instead of explaining that failure through reference to the Administration’s strategy, or the fecklessness of many progressive organizations, or the power of the insurance industry and its corruption of the legislative process; they are getting ready to ascribe what they think is the coming defeat to the American people, so they can absolve both themselves, and their fellow Washington DC villagers, for all they have done to thwart the clear desire of the American people for real change in the health insurance system.
To mask his own opposition to real health insurance reform, Ezra continues his analysis with some reasoning that is a perfect example of the resurrection of Clintonite policy wonkism, the view that while transformational changes may, through no fault of theirs, be politically impractical, they can reform things, and make a substantial improvement incrementally and cumulatively by “tinkering” with the details of the present system and introducing lots of small “tweaks.” He argues:
” . . . Obama continually promises that most Americans will notice no changes in their existing coverage, and all the bills reflect that vow. So what’s left? How do you reform a system you cannot change?”
”You ask the wonks. People often complain about the length of bills. But you don’t need many pages to explain a public plan, or set up a death panel (kidding!). Rather, the bulk of these bills amount to hundreds of small tweaks and fixes that make this corner of the health-care system a smidge more user-friendly, or that transaction a tad faster. Rather than saving hundreds of billions of dollars with a single dramatic intervention that transforms the system, they provide for the accretion of modest savings and small efficiencies. . . .
” . . . this is the quiet promise of health-care reform. The grand theories might fail. They often do. But making the system a bit better, a bit quicker and a bit more agile — we can do that. And until the stove gets hot enough, it may be all we can do.”
So, in effect, Ezra is saying don’t blame us DC villagers if health care reform fails, it’s really the fault of the people. They didn’t make “the stove” hot enough. They didn’t force us, Congress, and the Executive to pass reform. So never mind that our leadership was corrupt, our framing was consistently anti-reform, and our actions were opposed to real reform at every turn. After all, we have no leadership responsibility at all. It’s up to the people to make us do what ‘s right in spite of ourselves.
(Also posted at the Alllifeisproblemsolving blog where there may be more comments)



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Wow, yes, lets. That drumbeat that is going out, taken from the Repub camp, but embraced now by our traiterous Dems, let us blame the victims. Those outraged or those still seduced in trust. Blame them. Let the media pick up the drum beat.
There is a quote from Dr. Wolfe I will dump in my next comment on how easily Canada said, “Wow… this isn’t working. Let’s dump insurance companies and use single payer.” And happy ending.
DC Villages for sure.
It’s actually a variant on the “We lost in 1994 because we were too liberal and pushed a tax increase” meme, which is now the Conventional Wisdom and has been ever since 1994.
The truth is that the Dems lost in 1994 because they let Rahm Emanuel draw up NAFTA, which was a massive stab in the back to the country in general and the base in particular.
So Rahm’s getting ready to do to the Dems in 2010 what he did to them in 1994.
This is the theme we must push. It corrects the record and helps keep Rahm from succeeding a second time in destroying the Party and blaming the base for it.
PW it’s one of the things we should push strongly. But we really, really need to reset things to make the opposition go against “Medicare for All,” because that’s the other big reason why the Dems lost in 1994. They went with a plan that no one could understand in a situation of relatively low political trust. We don’t need an experiment that may not work right now like even a robust PO. What we need is “Medicare for All,” an idea whose variants have worked in every nation it’s been tried, including here for American Seniors, and an idea that every American can either understand or ask their parents or grandparents about. Of course we need to fix Medicare to get rid of the travesty the Republicans foisted upon it a few years back. But HR 676 already does that.
Thank you for that insight and call to truth! Will keep it in the forefront. RE=Pipsqueak with enormous power. An evil little Jiminy Cricket to puppet Obama-Pinochicio it is beginning to feel like. Obama may be no kid, but no fresh air. Axelrod working for everyone and his sister as p.r. handler, candidate promoter and consolidating palateable brand finally with BO. Rahm with the Clintons. Gates back with Cheney and Rumsfeld neoconning it back with Soviet proliferation scare tactics now front and center with present militarization. Everything old is not new again.
Thanks lib, it’s funny about how easy it was for Canada. I thought we were supposed to be the pragmatic ones. Sometimes I wonder whether the Cold War didn’t change the American National Character to terminally ideological. Seems like it was hardly over before we latched on to another ideological war in the so-called “war on terror.” Anyway, it seems that we no longer understand that anything that works is “American” and anything that doesn’t work is “Unamerican,” and that is the whole story. Crap about that’s “socialist,” that’s “capitalist,” that’s “regulation,” that’s the “free market,” etc. is beside the point.
Obama evidently considers himself to be the world’s leading pragmatists untouched by ideology. But I think that his ideology is short-run pragmatism, and we can see that ideologically holds to that ideology because he doesn’t change when he sees that it’s not working.
Corporatists and status quo huggers use words…like ideology … liberal ….. to disrespect those with principle. Morality is as quaint as the Geneva Convention, apparently.
Apparently there was enough empathy in government in Canada to embrace the common good. American partisanship, in citizenry and government sinks all.
There was and is enough empathy in Canada to still care about the common good. We cared about it after WWII for a long time, but Reaganism really got us off of that, since it elevated business interests above all and raised individual selfishness above the common good, a by-product of Ayn Rand worship no doubt. As for Obama, he actually frequently uses labeling and name-calling to try to marginalize his opponents or discredit another position without really explaining what’s wrong with it.
http://www.citizen.org/publica…..fm?ID=7675
Dr. Sidney Wolfe’s Testimony before Subcommittee on Health at Hearing on Health Insurance (HRG Publication #1885)
Thanks for posting Sidney Wolfe’s statement. It’s a great help in understanding our mess to put us into comparative perspective with other nations. I really think that the one of the best things we can do to get ‘Medicare for All” passed is to say to someone, did you know that you’re giving up 2.5 years of your life for the privilege of continuing the existence of the private health insurance industry? And then ask the question again and again all over the country. There are no death panels in Medicare. But there are death panels of bureaucrats in the insurance industry and the whole system is an early death system when compared to the other major industrial nations.
lets … you posted a link in a comment, about things you needed to read and do, I think it was to another of your diaries. can you post that again… been trying to find it… thanks. lib
lib, not sure I can recall that. I probably read them and moved on. I’ll try though.
It’s like how those who still want desperately to believe in Obama’s intrinsic goodness keep reading into things he says this notion that he’s signalling to progressives to “force” him to do something like fight for a public option.
Thus it’s win-win, since when he ends up not doing this, his supporters can just blame it on progressives themselves. “You didn’t put enough pressure on him.”
The big thing here is that so long as we just say this stuff here or in other friendly confines, it only gets read by people like us. Reference it in letters to the editor in your hometown newspapers. Spread the word outside of the Amen Corner. (The Spotlight function also helps for this.)
Yes, I’ve begun using the spotlight function to target certain media people, and also send my stuff to Congress. It’s no all amen corner here though. As you know Firedog Lake is split between PO and Medicare for All supporters, and I view a lot of what I’m doing here as an attempt to get PO supporters to reset on HR 676.
There it is magical, religious, unscientific thinking. How do we know? Because none of his religious supporters will tell us what it would take for them to conclude that he is doing the wrong thing. Anytime I hear about secret plans, I think “that’s BS, and even if it’s not, things will work out better if we act as if it is.”
The financing of care takes place out of the field of vision by the client and the processional worker. Where in commercial services the financial business-like character manifests itself naturally, things are different in the health care sector. Where in commercial services payment is an instrument to remind the service provider to the deal, in this sector payment is part of the deal(s) between the health care provider and the insurance company. Klein’s theory that people resist change, because they simply lack information about the integral cost price of a treatment they’ve undergone etc., seems rather funny to me. It is my guess that Klein will have the same argument for the fact that the American people also don’t want transformational change and renewal in education, transportation, agriculture, energy etc.
We have lived for many years with wicked problems in all these sectors and systems (as a matter of fact the whole western world has). All examples of systems in which we worked too long with old solutions within old rules of the game. We need system innovation to create a new, sustainable society. Not only product- or process innovation, but innovation of our societal systems and institutions. This is the real change we need and this is why Obama was elected, to realize these transitions and show us the art of transition management and his fine transition skills. But it seems to me that he needs to follow some more classes in this new discipline, and it also seems to me that he is also no longer constantly in transition in his own microcosm. Transitions of societal systems ask a lot of energy, courage, guts, a long breath and the joint effort of many. Why doesn’t he show the art and science of transition management, as a renewing concept that expresses the growing undercurrent of people who see that we need to do things differently and yes…. that we can do that. We have waited so long, why doesn’t he act!
“I dreamt I was awake. And when I woke up. I found myself asleep”, said Stan Laurel. I guess that says it all.
Great piece, Henk. To get change and to manage it, leaders have to get social credit with those among the people they lead who will be change agents along with. Instead, the President seems to spend his time compromising with those who don’t want change. All this is in contrast to FDR, who just went from victory to victory while brushing aside the opposition of status quo groups. By the time all the changes were in place, a new system existed and there was no going back. In the UK, the Labor Party took over for the first time toward the end of WW II. They didn’t compromise then, in spite of the horrible state of the UK economy; they just pushed through vast changes that transformed the whole, British economic system.
When the Conservatives got back in after only one term, the changes had taken root and they were able to roll back very little. The Conservatives continued to dominate politics for some years thereafter. But Labor had done its work and modern Britain owes much of its character to those years and to the unassuming, modest, and uncharismatic man named Clement Attlee.
A quote about systems and the mess. In 2004 Russell L. Ackoff, a famous American management and systems scholar, wrote:
Isn’t it strange that we use the word “Health Care” for a system that treats diseases? It actually should be called “Disease Care”. Of course we need such a system, it’s good to have one, but there is much more to the care for our good health than just treatment, like health promotion, public and population health, prevention, “heath in all (government) policy” programs, etcetc. I do think we should focus more on these fields, and not alone on hospitals etc. Let’s shift more money to these issues; an investment well worth I think for our future, sustainable health and well-being.
I agree, of course, and to free up that money it would certainly help to lower the percent GDP spent on health care from over 17% currently to about 10%. The first step there is to move to Medicare for All. Once we’ve done that it will be easier employ one or more of the three primary approaches to Knowledge Management to increase effectiveness and cut costs.
Health, appreciate these insights. And the wisdom of the “leader” of the wave of transition aborting the mission just when change could happen. He is snatching failure from the jaws of success, and it is more than confusing and demoralizing and sabotaging to the movement. How crazymaking for his following, torn between true principle and the magic cronyism of personality.
These are the vultures Democrats and Ezra want to pour more money on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..r_embedded
People love to laugh at and marginalize Dennis but he’s one of the few making a lick of sense in this debate.
I’ve never laughed and marginalized Dennis. I know there are some negative raps on him, but I’ve never seen him do anything that didn’t seem to be based on a desire to accomplish the public interest as he sees it. I’d love to have the chance to vote for him for major office, but alas, he doesn’t project a great TV image, so I’m afraid I’ll never get the chance.
Yeah, I know, but time will prove him 100% right on health care.
Yes, I know. And don’t forget John Conyers, he’s been constant on this for many years now.
As were Wellstone and Kennedy.
lib, Kennedy didn’t produce a Medicare for All bill out of his committee or get Chris Dodd to do it for him. It was Bernie Sanders who introduced a Medicare for All bill into the Senate. Wellstone’s death was a real tragedy for us. He was a model of integrity.
they are marginalizing all of us, mass. the too cool for school progressives and the right wingers. but MLK said, keep your eye on the prize. If BO can’t be that leadership we got Kucinich and we got training from MLK and RFK, et al.
“Average” cost of health insurance is a red herring. Because each individual state gets to regulate its own market, it would have been more logical to determine what the “average” plan costs in each state. Moreover, “average” itself is a loaded term and most people can’t tell the difference between average, mean, and median.
All true. But, of course, Ezra probably doesn’t know very much about averages, means, medians, and measures of central tendency and dispersion in general. My own use of it in the blog above was just to point to the discrepancy between the average premium and the average actual health care expenditure for a family of average size (3.1 people -:), and Ezra’ failure to even consider this huge discrepancy as relevant to the discussion.
Average and arithmetic mean are synonyms. What you are trying to remember is mean, median, and mode.
Signed
The itinerant pedagogue.
Hi stratocruiser, actually, I chose my language deliberately. The term “average” is a synonym for arithmetic mean, but I used the term “means,” by which I intended to include other kinds of means such as the geometric mean and the harmonic mean, as well. Is your handle stratocruiser or ‘the itinerant pedagogue’? -:)
love your headline!
i don’t have time to go look for numbers and crunch them, but the general gist is that ezra could possibly correct, more or less.
we already have most of our expensive people, the elderly and the disabled and the injured war veterans, in govt health care through medicare, medicaid, vha. that leaves the [relatively] healthy and inexpensive population of working adults and their [very] healthy and [extremely] inexpensive kids covered by employer-sponsored insurance.
i tried to get at the numbers from a different direction in this post.
anyways, the numbers work out to something like $12000 [or maybe it was more] per elderly/disabled, $2000 per kid, and $3000-$4000 per working-age adult. it takes some digging through the nhe data, medicaid spending data, and vha data [wish i could remember the link for this one] to sorta kinda figure out the number of high-cost people and who’s paying how much for them before you can start fact-checking the rest of it unfortunately. [the other thing you can do is wade through the financial filings of the insurance companies, but that’s even less transparent, and more trying, than wading through the public data and subtracting that out to arrive at an estimate of private health insurance spending].
hipparchia, thanks for the perspective and the great links. The posts you linked to are terrific especially the one on Canadian/US expenditures within wage groups. That one was really a masterpiece. You said:
I didn’t quite get this because it wasn’t clear what Ezra might be right about.
Klein is sounding like Cass Sunstein’s cabana boy. A nudge here, a nudge there. What all this presupposes is that we have a stable system which requires only small actions to keep it in equilibrium. But our current system is not stable. It’s unsustainable. It is the difference between doing routine maintenance on the Titanic before it ran into the iceberg (a good idea) and doing it after the collision (insane).
There is also a level of dishonesty in Klein’s characterization. It has been a long time since the primary goal of tweaks in bills was to create small but real efficiencies. Nowadays most tweaks are written by lobbyists and slipped into bills without any public notice precisely because the bills are so long and the language is so inapparent, a few words changed or inserted in a subsection of an unquoted paragraph. I guess you could call this a second imaginary fact in Klein’s theory.
Thanks Hugh, Great comment. Btw, Ezra is all over MSNBC today, both morning and afternoon. Right now he’s telling Contessa Brewer that MaxTax is, in fact, a tax. Contessa is saying we ought to add “illegal” immigrants into the pool, by “encouraging them” to get insurance. Ezra’s endorsing that.
Hi Hugh,
Yes I agree, incremental changes in systems (and more tweaks in bills) will no longer be sufficient. We have a crises at the level of systems, with all kinds of faults woven into them. We need to (partly) demolish these old societal systems in order to rebuild them again, with a new balance in social, economic and social areas. It becomes more and more clear that the transition to a sustainable society needs a real paradigmshift and different culture. The creation of sustainable systems is of vital importance for this generation and their future ones. This also means that we will have produce and consume health care in a more sustainable way: …… the real durable cost curve bender.
That’s the continuing underlying problem alright. But the immediate problem is to get the insurance industry which is adding no social value off the backs of Americans. Then we can turn to the underlying problem.
i glanced briefly at ezra’s post, but haven’t dug into it to crunch numbers.
various [reasonably] credible sources place the costs of health insurance / health care for a ‘family’ at $12,000-17,000 [i’m going by memory] right now. iirc, these ‘families’ typically consist of working age adults with their children, and the insurance costs are typically calculated from what employers provide to their employees. estimates vary depending on your source, but something like 150,000,000 – 180,000,000 people are covered by employer-sponsored insurance, either because they’re the employee or because they’re a spouse or child of an employee.
i forget how many people have bought their own insurance — 16,000,000 comes to mind, but i could be wrong. sometimes these people [and their families] get counted in the ‘how much it costs’ calculations and sometimes they don’t — and this isn’t always clearly stated when wonks get to throwing numbers around.
some general numbers:
– 45 million in medicare
– 50 million in medicaid/schip [it’s more like 60 million, but about 10 million are also enrolled in medicare, don’t want to count them twice]
– 7? 8? 9? 10? million [i forget] covered by the military/vha [and some of these have medicare too, and maybe medicaid but i’m not sure about that one]
– 45 million uninsured [give or take, 46-47 million depending on who’s doing the estimating]
– which leaves 150-160 million covered by private insurance [whether employer-provided or bought on the individual market]
all of which is complicated by the fact that many vets covered by vha also have private insurance, some retirees have private insurance, blahblahblah, etc…
ok, gotta go. i was home waiting for the plumber to show up and now it’s off to the salt mines for me. i have no idea if any of what i’ve just typed is helpful or just taking up pixels, but i try to avoid engaging in any analysis of any of ezra’s work — just too frustrating for me, his numbers tend to be correct, but he generally uses them in support of pseudo-liberal arguments. i am more than happy to provide ammunition if i can for anybody else who wants to tackle the job, but feel free to ignore me!
hipparchia, Ezra says:
- 160 million private
- 80 million public and
- 46 million uninsured
Total 286 million
You say:
- 160 million private
- maybe 104 million public (45 million Medicare, 50 million sChip and Medicaid, 9 million Tricare)
- 45 million uninsured
Total: 309
The population of the US is 307.5. You have a small discrepancy of 1.5 million. Ezra has a discrepancy of 21.5 million. Ezra’s way off.
Looks like you and Ezra differ on how many are covered by the public sector. I say “looks like”, because he might conceivably have those (24 million) people in a different sector, and is thus undercounting that one.
What I get from those totals is that only half of the U.S. is covered by private insurance. When you add in the people who are supposedly insured, but can’t get the coverage they need, it’s about one third who are actually having their needs met.
Yet more reason why Obama’s framing of this as completely rebuilding the health care system is absurd. The PO really changes how a third of the country gets its insurance paid for, at most. SP changes maybe two thirds of that. The rest could, conceivably, remain exactly as it is.
You’re exactly right Cujo.
hmmmm… i see what you mean.
math error of some kind on his part, although this could also be that ‘americans’ construct too, the one that everyone was arguing over after the ‘greatest health care speech ever’, where obama said his plan would provide insurance for over 30 million americans who now lack insurance. perhaps that missing 20ish million in ezra’s article are covered by various insurances, but are not ‘american’.
i think i’ve seen 10-12 million batted around as an estimate of the number of illegal aliens and the 2000 census says we had about 11% foreign-born persons living here. subtract out the illegal from the rest of the foreign-born and you end up with about 20 million residents who may be covered by various insurances but aren’t being considered ‘american’ for purposes of the present discussion.
because, y’know, it’s important to cave to the jingoists now too.
Well, it’s not our place to divine what Ezra meant. We can just call him out on it and let him explain the discrepancy.
agreed.
but now you can ask him specifically about that point if for some reason you need to pin him down.
You bet. I’ve got an arrow in my quiver.