The general reaction to Harry Reid’s announcement that he is including a public option in the Senate health care reform bill, along with a State opt-out has been to praise Harry for his courage and for “standing up for the American people.” Jane Hamsher, however, expresses her misgivings about the State level opt-out, because it has the potential of denying the PO to many needy people, most probably concentrated in Red States, and she points that “the devil is in the details” of the State opt-out. We know very little about those details at this writing. But it seems likely that the States won’t be able to opt-out until after the PO is operative, most probably in 2013, and people in each State have some experience with it. Then the States would have until 2014 to opt-out.
Jane and also Jon Walker are right in emphasizing that the details of the opt-out provision are critical in evaluating the quality and likely effectiveness of Reid’s bill. But today, at least, neither has discussed a number of other critical aspects of the bill, that there is no indication that Harry Reid has even made an attempt to fix. These include the following requirements of many progressives who have been paying attention:
— We need the starting time of the PO and the exchange to be within one year. A 2013 start date makes the bill unacceptable to many progressives, since if people don’t see benefits from the bill immediately, I think there is a good chance that Democrats will lose at the polls in 2010 and 2012, and they would deserve to lose as well for failing to serve their core constituencies. The 2013 start date is rationalized by the supposed need to make the bill deficit neutral over a 10 year period since that period begins in 2010 and no Government expenses for subsidies, the planned exchange, and the PO itself wouldn’t be operative until 2013, the bill is likely to stay in the $900 billion range preferred by the President, and can be paid for in ways the Administration thinks would not be too politically controversial. Of course, the whole issue of deficit neutrality is artificial, and should not have a priority anywhere near as high as stopping the 45,000 annual deaths and the 1 million annual bankruptcies caused by the current insurance non-system. But for this centrist Administration, it evidently does have a higher priority, so progressives have a tough issue here, and still need to exert very heavy pressure on Reid, Pelosi, individual Congresspersons, and Senators, and the President to get that 2013 date moved up to 2010.
— We need the PO to be available to everyone, and not restricted only to the unemployed, and those who can’t get insurance through their employment. Without this, there is a good chance that the PO won’t be able to compete with the private insurers and won’t lower insurance prices because it won’t be able to achieve the same economies of scale. People disagree on this point. But CBO has forecast that eligibility restrictions will mean that the PO won’t have more than 10 million people enrolled in the first five years. Recent changes to the House bill, if accepted by the Senate, lift this forecast to 12.5 million. This means that the PO would have a much smaller clientele than the largest insurance companies. It would seek, with this forecast of 12.5 million, to recruit a network of providers sufficient to provide quality equal or better than the private insurers. But why would providers whose billing rates to private insurers are likely to be higher than the PO will be able to muster, and whose networks are likely to be able to provide many more customers to those providers, want to provide services to customers of the PO? If the PO is to compete with the biggest private insurers, which it needs to do, to lower insurance costs, it should at least be able to compensate for lower rates of reimbursement, by providing more customers to providers. But with the current eligibility restrictions, it won’t be able to.
— We need the PO rates to be tied to Medicare rates. Pelosi’s Medicare + 5% is OK, but we also need careful structuring of Medicare rates so that rural/urban differences don’t kill the PO in rural areas. The PO needs to be tied to Medicare rates to provide it with a bigger competitive advantage over private insurance companies in the market. But its rates must be realistic both for urban and rural environments so that it has provider networks in both types of environments. Without both of these conditions, the PO will be less competitive in the market and also less able to build the provider network necessary to attract customers. There is a delicate balance here. If it is not struck, the PO may never get off the ground and reach a critical mass of members.
In my view, the above issues are so critical for a good PO bill, that if Harry Reid doesn’t settle them in a way that strengthens the PO, I’m afraid the resulting bill, will emerge with only a window dressing PO that is dangerous to progressives and Democrats alike, because it will confirm the Republican narrative that “Government can’t solve problems.” A bill without a robust PO, is worse than no bill at all. It should be defeated by progressive Congresspersons and Senators so that next year we can give “Medicare for All”, single-payer a chance in the panicky election year environment. What rationality, and principle can’t accomplish, naked fear of defeat may.
(Also posted at the Alllifeisproblemsolving blog where there may be more comments)



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Great post. We all are acting like this is a wonderful thing their trying to do, when the truth is that is a vane attempt to do something for the sake of doing something.
Even the things that sound so good like doing away with pre-existing conditions, and limits on care, dropping people, and just generally treating people as if their care is what they want to pay for, there are not strong ways to enforce it. So as always the insurance companies will find ways around most of it, and charge the hell out of everyone to make up for it.
No matter what is passed, little credit should go to those who passed it. Real representives of the people would have at least tried for National Healthcare.
They pass war funding in days, the TARP bailout took seven days, yet they been fighting for somekind of Healthcare for years, and even now are having a hard time with a patched watered down excuse for a bill.
Patting them on the back should be left for them to do, as they will do plenty of it on their own.
I agree. We’re too ready to pat them on the back, rather than telling them there’s still a long way to go.
I only wish that a public option open to all were actually on the table right now. However, outside of the fringe proposal of Wyden, I’m afraid it is not. Maybe it would be if groups on the ground like HCAN were pushing Medicare for All.
In any case, this is a good post becomes it points out the shortcomings of the current “public options” that many folks are willfully ignorant of right now. We’ve got to cut through that.
Hi khin, We’ve got only a limited amount of time, since we’re now into the end game, at least for this year. Also, It will be very hard to add amendments that strengthen this bill, since these will require 60 votes. I’ve outlined the way to do it here. It requires refusing UC agreements and making Harry use reconciliation or “the nuclear option.”
What I say in the earlier diary suggests that what we ought to do now is to pressure Senators who want to see a stronger PO to deny Harry’s request for a UC agreement to begin the Amendments process. That will force him to invoke reconciliation or the nuclear option. Since he’s Harry Reid it will be reconciliation he invokes. In that case, I’ve outlined how to proceed here.
The greatest threat a feeble PO poses is that it will be used to justify a vote for an insurance industry bailout — the individual mandate and the subsidies to make the mandate affordable. If the PO weren’t linked to to the bailout, I would worry a lot less about it. But the PO is linked to the bailout. Funnelling hundreds of billions of dollars per decade to the insurance industry strengthens the nation’s most ardent opponent of single-payer.
A feeble PO is objectionable not just because its failure will become grist for the anti-government crowd’s propaganda mill, but more importantly because it sabotages the single-payer campaign and sets back the day we end the suffering caused by the health care crisis.
Kip Sullivan
Hi kip, Thanks for pointing that out. A bailout does strengthen the insurance companies’ ability to resist change. But they’ll probably abuse the bailout by continuing to cherry pick customers in various ways. When they do political pressure will build to strengthen the PO and make it approach Hacker’s model much more closely. Also, they won’t be getting any extra mandate money until 2013. Meanwhile, sentiment against bailouts grows. It’s one of the things we may be able to use next year to strengthen the single-payer movement. We really need to keep the pressure up after this round and not go away until 2013, as the Administration and Congress would like. To do that your “bait-and-switch” narrative is essential. We’ve got to get the public to see the “bait-and-switch” and to understand that most of them won’t be getting the choice of a PO.
On top of everything else, the public option will be privately administered, so it will be one more subsidy for the health insurance parasites.
That is a big issue. If it’s given to one of the insurers it would be another outrage. I noticed that you were at the Mad As Hell Doctors rally in DC. Monatana Maven, ralpbon, and my wife and I were also there. I blogged about it in this diary.
In the same way that the PO itself was used as a diversion away from single-payer, so now it seems like defeating a trigger became another diversion, and a “strong” PO has been defined down to just mean no trigger.
But opt-out is pretty bad, and then the rest of this thing isn’t even remotely like the Hacker plan.
One thing in particular – if it’s not open to everyone (and unless I missed a change along the way, it’s just going to be open to the currently uninsured and employees of small businesses), then it’s not a real PO.
That’s just as bad as a trigger. I don’t know what ideas anyone has to supposedly “fix” that later on, the way some people say it’ll get fixed.
In a diary some weeks back I mentioned the “strong” or “robust” PO, and how unfortunate that we’ve had to undergo such terminological inflation. I wondered how long those would suffice.
Sure enough, just the other day I saw someone (I forget where, I think at Openleft) who felt constrained to specify a “very strong public option”.
Now we’ve got do what we can to improve this in the end game, or alternatively, mobilize enough pressure to defeat it. One important question what will FDL Action do? Will it focus on removing the opt-out, or used pressure to strengthen the Reid PO apart from the opt-out? There’s a trade-off. If one works on the opt-out, and you get rid of it, you’ll probably not be able to solve any of the eligibility, rate, or operative date problems. On the other hand, if you can solve one, some, of all of those, it would increase the attractiveness of the PO and make actual opt-outs less likely.
We also should ask, is it better to focus on the Senate now, or the House. Can we get the House bill enough over to the left that any conference committee would be materially stronger than the Senate bill and perhaps worth supporting as an actual improvement?
My guess is that we need to focus on both. Get the progressives in the House to move it over as far toward Hacker’s model as they can, and pressure the progressive Senators to deny Harry his UC agreements, so that he needs to move to reconciliation, where it will require only 51 votes to get Amendments that strengthen the bill.
The details of the opt-out matter, as do other details, but that doesn’t mean Reid doesn’t deserve praise. He did the right thing and we should thank him for it, and encourage him to do more.
I signed the petition thanking him and encouraging him to do more, in fact to do all that he can do.
I should have said:
I signed the petition thanking him and encouraging him to do more, and I am also urging him to do all that he can do in my diaries. I hope others begin to take up this call with specifics instead of just asking for generalized support of a stronger PO.
Totally fair, thanks.
From you to Congress’ and Obama’s ears, lets, and I don’t carry great hope of that.
My first thought hearing about PO was, and how many of the 45,000 a year will still die, and why wasn’t eliminating those deaths more of a priority to our President and our Congress, why was Grayson the ONLY one to cry out on that besides the handful of good ones in Congress? Why not our own President??? That horrifying statistic was over twice the 18-22,000 first thought, which was horrifying in itself.
My second thought was how much MORE than his $57,000 a day pay now will Helmsley of UnitedHealth get when the mandatory health care is a law and even more profits come flooding in. Maybe double it, huh? How obscene is that?
Your exploration is serious and comprehensive, lets. If only Congress had the moral imagination or seeming intelligence and empathy to do ANY serious homework that approaches this. It is all about spin and gamesmanship and how little can we release for the welfare of the citizens and still not piss off our mentoring bribing lobbied medical industrial complex?
I feel without Single Payer Medicare for All, the crummy, abusive, dysfunctional marriage between citizenry and insurance corporations is sadly rescued to limp along in further misery for the citizenry. If we had divorced the avaricious bastards of corporations we could have had a fresh and healthy start in life henceforth. Fiscal sanity and EVERYBODY IN NOBODY OUT high morale.
For abusers to stop abusing … or for the abusee partner to detach safely with sanity … well, we just don’t have the support systems in place with a Prez and a Congress that cares seriously but instead is cheating on us with our partner and abuser, the corporations. Look at how the banks took the money and ran given their second chance? After it being supposedly assumed they would circulate and expand that wealth. They contracted.
Now we can use this marriage metaphor over and over. With citizens and the prez, this honeymoon is definitely over and he is cheating with corporatists. Or with us and Congress, who has been covertly cheating for so long, we were ashamedly clueless!
Recommended!
Thank you, libby.
Right they expanded their financial instrument trading activities, which are of no value to American society, and contracted their lending activities. That’s what comes of excessive faith in incentives rather than mandates. Sometimes when it’s important enough to have people do something you have to make it a matter of law and use coercion to make sure it gets done. Lending by the Banks should not have been made optional. They should have been taken into receivership, their management replaced with academics who specialize in research on the banking industry and its regulations, and who haven’t been corrupted by the financial industry, and the lending to Main Street should have been mandated. In doing it the way he did it, Obama acted like a Wall Street Republican, not like a Democrat.
Awesome as usual, Lets. I’m going to e-mail parts of this to my Montana County Chairs, who, of course, are divided about Max. Some say about his tepid support of PO
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Personally I call this either delusional or more accurately, co dependent.