Substituting for the vacationing Ed Schultz on MSNBC today, Cenk Uygur delivered a pretty good narrative on the Democrats mistakes in bailing out Wall Street, but not Main Street. He let people know about the shift in wealth distribution over the past 3 decades, and he was very direct and forthright in telling us about the Democrats’ sell-outs to business over the past year and a half. Cenk’s directness and plain-spoken style is very effective in this kind of show, and he has been a very good fit to its format during Ed’s absence.
Of course, Cenk’s narrative did assume that the Democrats had made mistakes in the way they dealt with the Republicans, the Banks, Wall Street, and the Pharmaceutical and Health Insurance Companies. He either doesn’t think their actions are “a feature, not a bug,” or will not say so, because he’s trying to be politic. So, assuming that they have made mistakes he then offers advice about how they ought to admit to mistakes, and make bold statements about how they’re going to pump up small business with Government bucks, and if the Republicans try to stop them, then they, the Democrats “will be coming for them.”
After his statement, Cenk connects up Senator Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), one of the more progressive Democratic Senators, and asks him to comment on Cenk’s account of what’s happened and on what the Dems should do now. And then he and Brown talk for awhile about how the Democrats are going to get something done for small business when they get back in September and make some jobs for people. See the Uygur-Brown video here.
What they don’t talk about is whether the Democrats can get a small business stimulus bill through the Congress without getting rid of the filibuster, or whether if they do get one through it will be deficit spending, or deficit neutral. These are pretty important questions. The first is important because if they can’t get rid of the filibuster, they probably won’t be able to pass anything. And even if they can they probably won’t be able to do it using deficit spending. Also, if they can’t pass it as a deficit measure, then they’ll probably have to get that money from some other Government spending program, since the Republicans won’t sit still for a tax increase. And, of course, if it’s taken from another Government program, then the decrease in aggregate demand cause by cutting that program will tend to undermine the increase in aggregate in demand from the small business stimulus, so that the net jobs gain will be small, if there is any at all.
Finally, Cenk and Sherrod come down to the end of the exchange and Sherrod says that Congress and the Democrats didn’t make a mistake in bailing out the banks and the auto companies, but that their mistake was in moving so fast legislatively that they trusted the major banks to do the right thing, and neglected to pass measures requiring them to lend out money to businesses, and cenk ends up agreeing with him as their conversation ended.
It’s on this last point that I have my most serious disagreement with them. In my view, bailing out the banks was a big, big mistake. I think the Government should have seen to it that the banks had to recognize their toxic assets, which would have rendered most of the major banks insolvent. Then the Government should have taken them into resolution. Had these things been done the Government could have cleaned up the toxic assets, seen to to it that the banks lent to businesses again, eliminated the trading departments of the banks and gotten them out of that business, and then spun the banks off to private capital after about a year or so. Then the banks good behavior wouldn’t have been left to chance, and their ability to create bubbles by gambling with other people’s money would have come to an end at least for a time.
Just as importantly, had the Administration followed this course of action, it would have deprived Wall Street of much of its political power during the critical first year of this Administration. There would have been no campaign funds flowing from the banks to the Republicans for a year. There would have been much weaker political campaigns against credit card reform and the FinReg bill, and also far weaker campaigns against the economic stimulus bill, and health care reform when the President got to it. So, in my view, the Administration, assuming it really wanted to succeed, acted stupidly both with respect to its financial policies and also politically. It failed to take advantage of opportunities to enforce the flow of funds to small business, break the banks up into smaller healthier banks, dedicated to lending rather than gambling, and eliminate the banks’ political power for a critical period when major reforms that would normally be opposed by the banks were going to be legislated. In turn, this political mistake led to inadequate legislative actions on the stimulus bill, Finreg, credit card reform, and health care reform.
In short, bailing out the banks was not the right policy. It was the core mistake that led to all the others and that more than anything else accounts for Obama and the Democrats’ FAIL. I will not, at this point, speculate much on whether this failure is a bug, or a feature. Congress and the Administration are not monolithic bodies, so my personal belief is that for some in these institutions, proceeding this way was a bad mistake. But for others, it was a feature. I’ll leave it to my readers to decide who participated in a mistake and who acted in the way they did knowing very well what the outcome was likely to be.
(Cross-posted at All Life Is Problem Solving and Fiscal Sustainability).



16 Comments




Come on, letsgetitdone, face the facts:
When you’re on a major (non-Fox) network you can only go so far in criticizing Dems and/or Obama. Cenk wants to follow O’Donnell and Rachel who started as fill-ins and then got their own shows.
Notice that Rachel just bought a $1.25 mil apt in NYC? My guess is, she has to be making $1-2 mil a year. (KO makes $7 mil). Even $1-2 mil is a lot to give up by telling the truth or going the full distance. I’m sure Cenk’s got his eye on that kind of money and is doing an Ed Schultz — sound upset and outspoken up to a certain line, then back away.
There are no heroes in the media.
Of course you are right. Cenk is a baby compared to most of the wise ones here at FDL. He wants to believe in their goodness. He hasn’t gained the well earned cynical patina and clarity yet.
I don’t believe victortruex is right. Cenk is a guest host. He’s not corrupt- he can’t even conceptualize in his brain how craven and dirty these politicians are. Dylan comes as close to hero status as he’s allowed to get. He lost his job at CNBC for it one afternoon.
Keep the filibuster (the Dems will need it when the Repugs retake the Senate), ditch the Democrats who refuse to twist arms and ram through legislation using reconciliation and forcing GOPhers to go on the record actually launching filibusters (as opposed to merely threatening to do it and getting Dems to back down). Getting rid of the filibuster is a horrendously bad idea and will backfire — spectacularly.
Cenk makes no secret of his conservative ideology. He is not a progressive like you and I are. He is a milquetoast liberal, and that means he is acceptable to the establishment. He will only go so far in his criticism of the Democrats.
Hi victor, Facing the facts, doesn’t mean you don’t try to change them. If Cenk won’t go all the way, he deserves our criticism, whether or not he wants to make $ 1- 2 million annually and live in New York. Isn’t he a Jersey boy, btw?
Btw, isn’t a 1.25 million apartment in Manhattan a pretty modest place?
I guess there was a silver lining in that for Dylan. On cenk, I tend to agree with Victor here. Cenk is a really smart cookie. I think he knows exactly what he’s doing.
Michael, I know the dangers of getting rid of the filibuster, and I know we may need it. But I believe more in the upside of getting rid of it rather than the downside. Democracy works when people learn from error. When they can’t make errors because they’re paralyzed in action, the people in a democracy can never learn. If there had been no filibuster in the Senate, many of the excesses of the Reagan/Bush Administrations would have been corrected during their Presidencies, and Medicare for All would have been passed in Clinton’s first two years. the whole history of the United States since the middle 70s would have been different, and, I think, better.
I’m not afraid of what the Republicans might do, if they take over and there’s no filibuster. I know they might shit can social security and Medicare, but I also know that if they do they’ll be out on their ears in 2012, and then a revitalized Democratic would have big majorities and no filibuster to contend with in 2013. Then we’d have SS and Medicare back and much more besides, provided, of course, and I say again, provided, we can get an antidote to the influence of money in politics by then.
Democrats and Republicans aren’t making mistakes. They are fulfilling their agendas. Those agendas merely happen to be in the interests of the corporations and the rich, not those of ordinary Americans.
“Finally, Cenk and Sherrod come down to the end of the exchange and Sherrod says that Congress and the Democrats didn’t make a mistake in bailing out the banks and the auto companies, but that their mistake was in moving so fast legislatively that they trusted the major banks to do the right thing, and neglected to pass measures requiring them to lend out money to businesses, and cenk ends up agreeing with him as their conversation ended.”; can we now call the disingenuousness ” american hasbara?
You’re right. One of the great things about getting rid of the filibuster is that it removes the mask, it gives people nowhere to hide. You either vote for something you claim to believe in, or you don’t. You can’t hide behind the good old “I wanted it so bad but the mean other side just wouldn’t let us have a vote” kind of bullshit we get now. And I agree, officials who shaft the public would get crucified at the next election and bad policies reversed in short order.
Hey Lgid,
I think you are right on the mark with your criticism. Cenk has great potential, but he can’t seem to break away, first, from his credulous belief that these Dems are the old Dems and, second, from his irrational faith in capitalism. He gets enraged over the Dem’s behavior, but he can’t seem to brake away from his underlying assumptions. Sherrod Brown, no matter what, is a party man, and consequently he allows the DLC to put the choker chain around his neck daily. I also think you are right that in order for things to get better, they will have to get much much worse. So let us “stop worrying and love the bomb.” The Revolution draws nearer, but it is still a ways away.
So, you’re generalizing about all Democrats and saying that they all knowingly adopted policies that they knew would fail. But that they adopted them because they thought they’d be good kabuki and wouldn’t make a material difference? Is that right?
Bruce, “hasbara”? Teach me.
Yes, cb, I’m afraid it is. Dylan Ratigan has that problem also. He can’t get give up his faith in “the market.” We need progressives who don’t have any prejudice either for or against “the market.” They need to see it as a tool, like any other, for accomplishing public purposes. When it doesn’t work, out with it, quickly, and try something else.
Israel’s public diplomacy efforts are called hasbara in Hebrew.[1] Hasbara (Hebrew: הסברה), also spelt hasbarah, is a noun that literally means “explanation”.[2][3] The term has been used by the State of Israel and by supporters of Israel to describe their efforts to explain Israeli government policies, and to promote Israel to the world at large. Detractors view hasbara as a euphemism for propaganda.[4][5][6]
C’mon Let’s. That trap’s too obvious. Hugh’ll see it comin’ from a mile away . . .
You mean like healthcare reform? (add rimshot) Wake up and smell the coffee. What is a failure from your point of view isn’t from theirs.