MMT Going Mainstream?
Modern Monetary Theory (MMT), an approach to economics that emphasizes the facts about how fiat monetary systems actually work in the real world and the implications of these facts for fiscal policy and economics is beginning to go mainstream. As it does, more and more people are contributing to shaping the approach and are adding to the debate about it. Very recently John Carney of CNBC created a stir in the MMT community by writing favorably about MMT.
While doing so, however, he expressed his disagreement with the emphasis of the primary MMT founders, Warren Mosler, Bill Mitchell, and Randy Wray, as well their initial students and collaborators on the policy idea of a Job Guarantee (JG) as a way of achieving both full employment and price stability. Carney believes a JG program will be: “massively inflationary”, a bureaucratic nightmare, and economically stagnating. So either the JG isn’t part of the MMT core, or MMT is just wrong.
Carney’s post touched off an explosion of blog-based discussion and commentary here, here, here, here, here, and here. Some believe that the JG policy is somehow grafted on to the basic MMT description of the facts and operations of fiat monetary systems, and is not essential to MMT as an approach to the economy. And Peter Cooper at heteconomist was motivated to write a series on the subject with each new installment driven by the commentary on his earlier posts about the issue.
Until now I’ve resisted commenting on the discussion, because my main concern in writing about MMT has been to popularize its overall point of view, while concentrating on myths and fairy tales from neoliberal ideology it debunks. I’ve also been concerned with exploring the political implications of using Proof Platinum Coin Seigniorage (PPCS) in the context of the MMT approach to provide a basis for progressives to become much more aggressive in their advocacy of fiscal policy to heal the various economic and societal problems facing the US.
From my point of view, the internal debate among MMT sympathizers, initially appeared as a distraction from the more serious work of popularization. But after reading many of the post and comments it became clear to me, that the issue of what is at the core of MMT, and how to tell what is and is not part of the core, is a very important one, that has not, perhaps been entirely clarified by the debate. So the purpose of this series is to explore that question of MMT scope. I’ll start with Cullen Roche’s post on the JG and the mainstream MMT position.
Cullen Roche and the Job Guarantee
I think Cullen Roche posed the issue very well here: http://pragcap.com/the-evolution-of-mmt/comment-page-1#comment-94869
”It’s not that I think the JG “cannot” be a component of MMT (Bill drew a very clear line in the sand saying that the JG is “central” to MMT and not “peripheral”), but that our knowledge, understanding and implementation of modern money need not involve the JG. The JG might be central to the idea the founders had when creating MMT, but that just means it’s central to the original concept of MMT as they saw it. And they have by no means proven the JG to be the optimal usage of the government’s monopoly currency supplier powers (despite substantial evidence and persuasive arguments). I’ll cover this in more detail in the near future, but I simply don’t believe the JG is the optimal usage of these monopoly powers and in fact could come at substantial long-term cost. Instead, I think there are better options which can also lead to price stability and full employment.”
I think Cullen puts this issue well, but in an incomplete way. He doesn’t say why the JG idea has become central to the MMT founders, and in not making clear their reasoning about this, I think he’s missing something important that was also missed By John Carney, Rogue Economist, and numerous other bloggers and commenters writing on the subject over the past week. The original practitioners of the MMT approach don’t simply describe monetary realities and then say that this description is where MMT stops. They also emphasize that since money is ultimately a creature of the Government, which, in turn, is obligated by the constitution to provide for the general welfare, its fiscal policy should be guided by the standard of whether or not it fulfills the public purpose; and also should be evaluated after the fact by whether its impact has been to get society closer to the public purpose rather than to produce gains for just a small part of the population.
The Argument for the Job Guarantee
I know that the term “public purpose” is an abstraction and that for some schools of economics which don’t recognize the reality of collectives, that the term is meaningless; but for most Americans terms like “public interest,” “the general welfare,” and “the public purpose” are important normative standards written into our founding documents, and have a place both in common and in positive law. Bill Mitchell, Warren Mosler, Randy Wray, Stephanie Kelton, Scott Fullwiler, Marshall Auerback, Pavlina Tcherneva, Mat Forstater, Jan Kregel, Eric Tymoigne, Rob Parenteau, Yeva Nersisyan, Michael Hudson, Bill Black, and Jamie Galbraith, have all written about fiscal policy with that or a similar standard in the forefront of their writing. For them, the fiscal policy side of MMT is about achieving public purpose including full employment and price stability, because 1) these goals are written into our laws; and 2) high unemployment is causally related to a host of other effects of poor fiscal policy. As Randy Wray put it during his talk at the Washington, DC Fiscal Sustainability Teach-In Counter-Conference on April 28, 2010:
[00:13:52] But… the sociologists and political scientists would point to these other things, which are also huge, and they are almost always ignored by economists. OK, just run through very quickly: poverty, social isolation, crime, regional deterioration — because unemployment usually is regionally concentrated and all the Americans know we can identify parts of the country that suffer from unemployment to a greater extent than others — health issues, family breakdown, school dropouts. You know, this is well established in the literature outside economics. It promotes violence, ethnic hostility, even terrorism. The loss of human capital, because when people are unemployed for a long periods of time they become unemployable, partly because of behavioral changes, but also because of the way that potential employers perceive them. Two years unemployed, I don’t want to take a chance on you. So, whether it’s a real human capital loss or a perceived capital loss, it will prevent them from having the same job opportunities they would have had if we hadn’t gone through this two year period. OK, and hysteresis: long-term unemployed become unemployable because of all these things I’m mentioning here. You become homeless and this is going to have a very long-term impact on your employability.
In short, the MMT founders think that the real costs of unemployment are far, far worse, than any short-term price increases or side effects that might result from instituting a JG program substituting a full employment buffer stock that would serve as a counter-cyclical automatic stabilizer during both recessions and expansions, for the present unemployed buffer stock, that may contain demand-pull inflation, but only by incurring the real costs spoken of above by Randy. From an MMT viewpoint, further, there is no choice about using some kind of buffer stock to achieve price stability, given an economy that relies on the Government’s own monopoly fiat currency and private sector markets. Warren Mosler put it this way in his comment on Cullen’s post:
“. . . so it comes down to ‘pick one’-
gold
fx
unemployment
employed/jg/elr
wheat
whatever!
I pick ‘employed/jg/elr
as it works best as a buffer stock based on any/all criteria for a buffer stock. . . .“
Considering all the research done by MMT founders on the JG, as well as statements like these which are very plentiful in the MMT literature, I think Warren’s is nearly a decisive argument that the JG is a core component of MMT, provided, of course that one accepts that full employment with price stability is an important component of “public purpose” or “the general welfare,” and that also one thinks that the Government’s fiscal policy ought to fulfill the the public purpose. Since all the MMT founders and later MMT adherents such as myself agree with this, it’s not surprising that we think that the JG is a core component of MMT.
But what if one either doesn’t accept “public purpose” as a normative standard guiding Government monetary and fiscal policies, or what if one thinks that full employment with price stability is either not a means that should be used to accomplish the public purpose, or if one thinks that another means can better accomplish public purpose and still lead to full employment and price stability? Then one’s verdict on whether the JG is a part of the MMT core will be different.
I’ll discuss this issue in Part Two.



11 Comments

I am watching the gradual creeping into our consciousness of MMT.
I spoke to two bankers about the idea, one old, one young. Both had the same thought, 1920′s Germany and ruinous inflation.
It seems to me that MMT, pushed past some yet-to-be-defined point would create demand pulled inflation. Below this employment level, I would not expect to see any effect.
Although I agree with the theory in general, and I think it may represent the way forward. We need to begin the work of defining parameters and containing side effects.
1. What do we call full employment?
2. What should be minimum wage?
3. How rich is too rich, since MMT abandons tax-policy-as-Dynasty-leveler (not that it’s working too well now at that.)
4.How do the states figure into this? it seems that the states would benefit most by shifting problem solving upward, to the federal level. What are the implications of that?
5. Do we continue to have a level of debt and sell t-bonds, to ensure that there is always a risk-free investment. Much of finance theory rests on comparisons with the risk-free investment?
I’ll think of more later.
Here’s another.
If we have work that needs doing, and people who need work, then the addition of money shouldn’t be inflationary. I agree with that, but…
How will we decide what the work is that needs to be done, and in what relation to the private sector?
Who will be eligible for the jobs to be created?
Thanks stratocruiser
I agree. Btw, MMTers also agree with you that deficit spending beyond a certain point would create demand pull inflation. There are lots of MMT posts on this. A great one is by Billy Mitchell one of the three original MMT founders here: http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=10554
There’s disagreement about that, but MMT people tend to think of it as allowing a bit of unemployment to take account of people changing jobs, and estimate this level at about 1.5-2.0 % U3 unemployment, and also zero U6 unemployment (part-time employees seeking full time work, and no disemployment, i.e. people looking for full time work who are considered in the labor force.
There’s disagreement on this among MMTers on this. Warren Mosler prefers an $8.00 per hour wage for the JG program. Randy Wray recently stated a preference for $12.00 per hour. Warren and Randy are the two other primary MMT founders. My own view is $10.00 per hour in the lowest cost region of the US with cost adjustments geared to the CPI for other regions. Which means the JG wage in New York City might be as high as $24.00 per hour, while in a very lost cost area of Kansas, say, it would be $10.00 per hour.
I think MMTers differ on using taxes to diminish inequality. Rather, MMTers will say, there’s no need to raise taxes to get revenue. Reducing inequality is another thing, entirely, and I suspect MMters are all over the place on that on. In dealing with any tax policy for leveling however, I’m sure all would agree that the immediate multiplier of a dollar taken from a rich person in taxes is about $.30 additional of reduced GDP, while the impact of a dollar taxed away from a person with median income is probably more like $1.30 additional in reduced GDP, and the impact of taxing a poor person one dollar is probably more like an additional $1.65 lost in GDP. From this, we can see that the best time to tax the rich rather than the poor very heavily is during a recession or depression, because it would have a relatively slight effect on the economy, compared to raising taxes on any other group.
MMT advocates heavy revenue sharing to the States because they have to raise revenue mostly by taxing, whereas the Federal Government as the currency issuer doesn’t have to tax, or to borrow for that matter to spend. MMT economists don’t think, however, that solutions to problems should necessarily be shifted upward. People at the State and local level are often much more attuned to context sensitive solution than the national Government would be, so MMT people would rely on State and local authorities for help with planning the JG program in their states and local areas.
MMters differ on this. Some are friendly to continuing debt issuance. Others like Bill Mitchell and probably Randy Wray, Stephanie Kelton and Mat Forstater think that debt issuance should stop and that Fed should pay Interest on Reserves (IOR) to hit its overnight interest targets. Warren Mosler seems to favor very short-term debt instruments carrying near zero interest ratess. More generally, MMters tend to view debt issuance as welfare payments mostly for the rich and foreign Governments; but this is far from a universal view. I agree with the welfare for the rich view, btw.
I hope I answered all your questions.
A lot of research has been done on these questions. See: http://bit.ly/zBnJi0 and http://bit.ly/xWhoVG
Also, this one is very important:
http://bit.ly/Asx6SM
First allow me to thank and praise selise. He/she turned me on to MMT and for that I am forever grateful. I am an adherent to MMT though it took a while to eradicate my skull full of myths. Selise, I hope you’re still around here. I’ve done my very best to spread the word.
Ok, so on topic. I believe it was Bill Mitchell and I’m sure many MMT’s would agree that in democratic societies, the people will have to determine what the policy goals should be. In this case, job guarantees. I happen to support the goal but I believe that idea should be part of the public debate and vote.
I happen to believe it’s a winning populist argument. I also believe the oligarchs know this as well. As a result we run into some real world challenges. These very same oligarchs own the media and politicians if they aren’t the politicians as well. They see it in their interest to maitain the current order. Even further, they are pushing toward global feudalism. We, the 99% are pushed to compete with each other for jobs, food and water, housing, etc. We’ve become wage slaves who inadvertently keep wages down. And given those dynamics the feudal lords can manipulate the masses into anything including warfare.
So what the hell do we do. We have to go radical. We have to use all means necessary. We may have to even get in bed with people like Ron Paul for a brief interim if it means we can bust up how the FED operates. The wealthy and powerful aren’t gonna just walk away. We have the numbers and must be willing to use it as well as take a long term strategy if we are ever gonna do what is needed for a just society. The kind of society we thought as kids we were moving towards!
If MMT people are going to grapple with job guarantees then they, like anyone else, are going to have to grapple with the definition of employment. As Wray discusses, longterm unemployment makes this a difficult issue, and politically, it is dealt with by removing the longterm unemployed from the workforce. That can only be done in a society that makes exceptions to the equation between work and livelihood — i.e. has social safety nets, either real (government) or shadow (charity, family, etc.).
If you want to grapple with it only in ledger format, which would be consistent with MMT, then you need to know when to remove people, or if you don’t remove them, how you account for there not being an equation. If you want to grapple with the equation itself, then you end up in the same realm that Marx and others have tried to tackle, where you try to decide how to break that equation permanently, or try to justify the social safety net permanently. If you break the equation, then labor is no longer a ledger variable and your JG critics are right: you need external justification for including it in MMT.
Just my unqualified 2c
It’s not that difficult. Employment means paying people to provide some sort of service, private or public sector. It doesn’t matter.
Look at some of what Roosevelt did. We only need look at our roads, bridges, spsce and medical r&d, internet improvements, etc.
If the will is there we can employ everyone that wants to work for a decent income. It’s only a challenge if we buy into the myths we are constatly being spoon fed.
I agree completely. Selise turned me on to MMT too.
Hi ondelette, I think the way Hugh defines disemployment would be acceptable to many MMTers, certainly it is to me. See, for example: http://www.correntewire.com/the_november_2011_jobs_report_good_news_but_i_have_doubts
Replying to both:
psalongo: Yes, it is difficult, if you decide there is a Job Guarantee obligation, because then you need to decide to whom you are to guarantee the job. That means you need to decide what it means to be in the labor force, and what it means to be in the safety net — and like I said, you need to start doing what relief and development workers do and estimate the people who are being cared for by the shadow safety net: family, friends, charities that are not in the grid, etc. Are these people in the guarantee or out of the labor force? What is the relationship between labor and livelihood at root?
letsgetitdone: It’s a start, but it’s based on self-selection, so while it is accurate up to a point, a lot of strain on the system absorbs those who put pressure on the safety net and then declare themselves not to be looking. They ought to be declared as job seekers in such a model, or the relationship between labor and livelihood re-evaluated. But like I said above, very few economic models want to go there. We may have to.
Not sure we can answer the questions you pose. But one thing I know. The value or lack of value of an endeavor or an outcome is not measured by whether there is a market for it; or whether it can’t be performed at a profit and therefore must be handled by the public sector. The JG, as progressive as it is, privileges the private sector because it maintains a pool of employed buffer stock workers who can be hired away by the private sector any time it is willing to exceed the JG benchmark wage.
Implementing the JG might cause an initial price adjustment in wages upward, and therefore might be viewed as competing with the private sector, and even driving out of business those employers who pay subsistence wages. But after that the Government will not compete if private sector employers decide to pay more and offer better benefits than the JG.
In other words, the size of the JG is in the hands of the private sector. Anytime it wants to hire away workers from the pool it is free to do so. see: http://heteconomist.com/?p=3678#more-3678 and the discussion.