Since I provided some reaction to the SOTU, I thought I might also provide some analysis of Jill Stein’s version of it. I won’t dignify Mitch Daniels’s reply to the President with an analysis, however, because it’s simply not worth the electronic ink to comment on that nonsense.
By and large, I really liked Jill Stein’s Green New Deal speech, and I think I’d be much happier if she were in the Presidency then I am right now. Dr, Stein, is really direct and straightforward, and she seems to genuinely care about the condition of working people and about protecting the constitution and its guarantees of liberty. Her sincerity shines through and she seems to lack the guile of the major party candidates. Her program seems to be a synthesis of the WW II New Deal and Green Agendas and I strongly support the idea that we need both right now. Here are some quotes and comments.
To be clear: the greed for record profits is what got us into this mess in the first place. Of course it wasn’t greed alone. It was the capture of both political parties by Wall Street and other powerful corporations that buy influence with campaign contributions and lobbyists. Using this routine currency of American policy making, Democrats and Republicans alike dismantled protections against waste, fraud and abuse by Wall Street.* This bipartisan cooperation enabled greed to crash the economy.
Couldn’t agree more, but then:
. . . That not only killed jobs, it also depressed tax revenues – which has been one of the biggest drivers of the federal deficit. That deficit has also been made worse by unconscionable spending choices: notably the 4 trillion dollars spent on the illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and trillions more spent on the bloated Pentagon budget, tax giveaways for the wealthy, and bailouts for Wall Street.
Now, I’m against the bloated P-budget too and also tax giveaways for the wealthy and Wall Street bailouts. I hate ‘em all. However, this passage indicates that she thinks that deficits are “bad”, and that her understanding of their undesirability is shared with Obama, Clinton, and even Pete Peterson and Alice Rivlin.
This, in turn suggests, that if she gets into office she’s just going to, sooner, or later, try to pay down the debt from tax revenues and cause recessions out of worry over debts, deficits, and solvency. Solvency is never an issue for the Federal Government of the US, barring Congressional stupidity involving voluntary default
She badly needs to read some Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) and get up to speed fast. I recommend that Jill start with Warren Mosler’s 7 DIFs, then go from there to Bill Mitchell’s great pieces here, and Randy Wray’s primer here.
And now, the political establishment in the White House, Congress, and state governments are making matters far worse, doing the opposite of what we need, by inflicting needless, harsh austerity policies on the country.
This is bad for people, bad for the economy, and completely unnecessary. When they say there’s not enough money, they mean there’s not enough money for YOU. Instead of austerity, we can end the Wall Street bailouts, cut the bloated military and tax the bloated rich.
This is pretty much right on, and Jill is absolutely right that austerity isn’t necessary at all, but not because we can always tax the rich or end bailouts and wars. Austerity isn’t necessary because our Government, unlike the Eurozone nations, is monetarily sovereign and need not tax or borrow back its own currency. It can just make more.
These austerity cuts mean that Americans are losing jobs. From Scott Walker to Andrew Cuomo, and yes, Barack Obama, the result of these austerity cuts is layoffs for teachers, nurses, child and eldercare workers, firefighters, janitors, bus drivers and all the people who keep our communities educated, healthy, and moving forward.
Worse, these austerity cuts are hurting the people who receive those services. Students, the disabled, the elderly, the ill, the unemployed, the hungry – these are the Americans who are suffering because of austerity cuts to education, financial aid, health care, fuel assistance, homeless shelters, prevention, food support, and more.
All absolutely correct. Go Jill!!!! But don’t get side-tracked by solvency concerns. The solvency problem is a fairy tale.
All of this adds up to the ongoing crisis we face – the cumulative result of many years – decades – of policies under both Democratic and Republican presidents that enrich the few while exploiting the many.
The political establishment is telling us there’s little we can do to change our direction. I don’t believe it and I suspect you don’t either.
It is time to break free from the old economy, and the old politics.
It’s time for a Green New Deal for America.
Again, I couldn’t agree more. That’s exactly what we need and we shouldn’t allow false narratives about fiscal sustainability and responsibility to sidetrack the Green New Deal, the same way FDR got his New Deal sidetracked in 1937. Onward and Upward Jill! But don’t think you can do it without the right economics behind you!



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Being MMTers of course we agree. I was a little taken a back as well when she got into defecit talks but hopefully if she comes close to the office, Warren and Stephanie can school her.
I like the idea of bringing back green backs. https://webofdebt.wordpress.com/
Deficits are good, surplus is bad and govt debt does not matter! For sovereign money governments which create money, the debt problem is a red herring. For example, if a person owes a mortgage of $350,000 on an annual income of $70,000 should he worry about his debt to income ratio = 5 yr ? The US debt to GDP is near 1 yr (100%). Japan’s debt to GDP is 2.3 years. Japan has paid off its real estate loss in 10 years keeping GDP constant with no austerity and USA should be copying Japan to escape a depression. And government debt does not need to be paid back!
Income taxes play a minor role in macroeconomics. It has a role in income inequality and inflation control.
Govt “debt” is the same as private wealth. FACT! Two key equations in economics which apply to any system of govt:
a) Federal Deficits – Net Imports = Net Private Savings. For numerical proof see
figure 4 of http://pragcap.com/resources/understanding-modern-monetary-system
b) Gross Domestic Product = Federal Spending + Private Investment + Private Consumption + Net exports.
USA has no problem creating more dollars and solving the problem except for the dysfunctional congress and their economic ignorance and incessant “debt hysteria” by main stream economists, The GDP is equal to approximately 5 times govt spending. Actual data is in
http://pshakkottai.wordpress.com/2011/10/16/us-gdp-vs-govt-spending-2/
On the Federal Reserve System, we need to remain in Deficit Spending and in debt, but in the sweeping reform instituting a Constitutional Monetary System as advocated by Jill Stein, the Deficit and debt may become unnecessary and irrelevant.
In the FRS, exploiting other nations, printing money, and banker/broker/oil-gas profits have given us the false impression that our “Economy is Growing.”
With full employment and a manufacturing base, we will be manufacturing things, and our Economy will actually be growing, without the smoke and mirrors that hide the exploits of the profiteers who sold us out.
Banks and brokerages are making more profits than anyone?! Can’t we see that people whom we entrust to handle our money should never be allowed to profit off money-handling? Profiting off of handling other peoples’ money is unethical and immoral.
Without the Wars and the War on Drugs and the Prison/Industrial Complex, our country’s money prospects will be looking a lot better.
Maybe we can institute a Progressive tax system. Obama, in his SOTU, proposed the disgracefully regressive Buffett Rule, which would have the richest man in the world, Warren Buffet, pay only 30% in taxes, while the vast Middle Class pays 35%, and people disabled on Social Security who must nonetheless still work in retirement pay an astonishing 50%.
Warren Buffett himself said that the Buffett rule is ridiculously unfair, and that he should obviously be charged a lot more in taxes. He said that he is embarrassed that his name is attached to such a repressive and regressive bill.
If they can get in to see her. Maybe Jamie Galbraith can get them in along with Randy, Pavlina, Bill lack, and Mike Hudson.
Me too.
Jill’s for full employment and what look’s like a Job Guarantee (JG), Cullen’s not. See my recent series here” http://my.firedoglake.com/letsgetitdone on the JG and the MMT core.
All True. But Jill didn’t mention changes to the monetary system in her SOTU, only deficits as if they were bad. My own views are well known:
1. Take the big banks into resolution
2. Move the Fed under Treasury
3. Never issue debt again. Spend more than you tax by spending/creating money at the same time through electronic keystrokes changing the Government’s great spreadsheet in the sky.
4. Failing 2 and 3 at least use PPCS to fill the public purse with $60 T so no one can say we’re running out of money, pay off all public debt, and cover gaps between taxes and spending for at least 15 – 20 years. See: http://www.correntewire.com/end_the_austerity_war_against_the_people_mint_the_platinum_coin
5. Tax the wealthy at marginal tax rates up to 90%. See: http://my.firedoglake.com/letsgetitdone/2012/01/25/the-sotu-he-hasnt-learned-anything-more-about-the-economy-in-the-past-year/
6. I worry about Medicare for All and its efficiency and effectiveness too. But the issue isn’t one of dollars and deficits. Instead it’s an issue of Knowledge and Quality Management See: http://www.stevenjspear.com/
One thing to keep in mind about MMT:
It’s a theory. So was Greenspan’s theory about the financial markets self-policing. And asshole Milton Friedman’s Chicago School of Economics theory.
As long as we have fiat currency backed only by other’s faith, unending deficits and an inflation-induced crash are real possibilities. Plus, as far as I know, MMT has never been tried where the currency in question is the world’s reserve currency and the pricing basis for petroleum products. Have to be concerned about what would happen if the US went full MMT and then the rest of the world decided to start trading energy in Indian or Chinese currency.
So she is moving toward the light and could be guided in the right direction if she were receptive. That clearly beats the current occupant. Your endorsement means a lot to me. Keep the faith lgid, the road is long, but I just have to believe that a better day awaits us and the rest of the world. What choice do we have, after all.
BP, Every other economic school is also a theory or at least involves theory. There are a few points to be made however:
1. None of the schools is just “theory.” All are Knowledge Claim Networks (KCNs). I’ve explained what these are here: http://my.firedoglake.com/letsgetitdone/2012/01/22/the-job-guarantee-and-the-mmt-core-part-fourteen-mmt-is-a-holistic-knowledge-claim-network/
2. Furthermore, not a thing, not one thing in MMT has yet been falsified. That is not something one can claim about any competing economic KCN. Specifically, both the Austrian KCN and Neo-liberalism have mismatches to empirical data galore. It’s clear that both are untenable.
3. To say that something is a “theory,” is to say very little about it. Evolution is “a theory.” As far we know, however, it is also a “fact.” We can’t radically distinguish theories from “facts.” because all “facts’ involve theories. I’ve explained this here: http://my.firedoglake.com/letsgetitdone/2012/01/17/the-job-guarantee-and-the-mmt-core-part-twelve-theory-and-fact/
So, please read it and read the links.
On the point, about what would happen if the US “went full MMT” and the rest of the world decided to start trading energy in Indian or Chinese currency, I think that depends on what the US decides to do in response. Why do you think that would present any problem at all?
Hi cbsunglass, Don’t think I’d put it quite that way. I don’t know about her being “guided.” But she could read some things and learn.