In celebration of Paul Ryan’s nomination, and in consideration of his reputation among Washington, DC villagers as a fiscal guru, I thought it might be fun to do a series of posts, of which this is the first, critiquing examples of Ryan’s past wisdom. Here’s the first example:
”We face a crushing burden of debt. The debt will soon eclipse our entire economy, and grow to catastrophic levels in the years ahead.”
The debt referred to here by the Congressman is the accounting construct of the national debt subject to the limit, or the face value of the debt instruments the Government has yet to redeem. But just why the “burden of debt” is so crushing, or even a burden at all to you and I really needs to be explained carefully by Ryan and the other deficit hawks to the rest of us.
I don’t see any public debt burden on myself or any American people at all either at present or in the future. Why? Because a burdensome debt is one that you and I will personally have to pay back, and we just won’t ever have to pay the public debt of the US back from taxes that we are asked to pay to the Government. That is, we won’t unless Congress and people who believe the things Mr. Ryan believes, decide to pay the debt by levying taxes, cutting Government spending, and running Government surpluses until it is paid.
That was done once in American history during Andrew Jackson’s Administration, when the public debt was paid by raising more taxes than spending. The result was that Martin Van Buren, Jackson’s successor became a one-term President, following the panic and very serious depression of 1837. That depression was caused, in great part, by a shrinking of private demand caused by Government austerity, the successful pay back of the debt, and the continuing policy of balancing the budget. In addition, every sustained attempt in American history to run budget surpluses was followed by either a depression or a recession. A summary of the depressing record is here.
Vice-Presidential candidate Ryan either believes himself, or wants you to believe, that the “crushing debt” will have to be paid for out of taxes levied on you and I. But there are a number of different ways to handle the national debt that don’t place any burden on us at all.
First, there’s the way we’ve been handling it up to now, namely by rolling over previous debt and paying interest on it as it comes due. We’ll always be able to do that because a debt instrument is the functional equivalent of a savings account, and frequently those who hold USD including foreign nations have the effective choice of keeping their USD in a reserve account, or buying a debt instrument that pays higher interest. They’d rather buy the debt instruments, of course. However, low the rate of interest is, it’s better than the rate they’ll get on reserves.
Can our national debt increase indefinitely? The short answer is: yes it can. The reason is that a Government like the United States with a fiat non-convertible currency, a floating exchange rate, and no debts in any other nation”s currency, has no solvency risk because it can always create money to pay its obligations. Its debt instruments are therefore nearly risk-free. So, they’re a safe harbor for investors who’d rather earn a better return on the USD they hold than interest on reserves or no interest at all.
Second, in lieu of simply rolling over our debt and increasing it, as needed, Congress can decide to get rid of all the public debt, by simply removing its mandate forcing the Treasury to issue new debt when it deficit spends. Congress needs to replace it by granting authority to the Treasury to spend Congressional appropriations by directly marking up private sector bank accounts, or if it continues to spend through its Federal Reserve Accounts, Congress will have to give it authority to mark up its Federal Reserve accounts when it wants to deficit spend Congressional appropriations. If this is done, then Treasury will be able to make all its debt payments when they become due, and most of the public debt will be gone within 10 years, except outstanding longer-term instruments. If Congresspersons like Paul Ryan think the debt problem is so burdensome, then there is nothing preventing them from giving Treasury the above authority and getting rid of the debt. is there?
In fact, the reason why any public debt at all exists right now is because Congress mandates that new debt be issued when the Government deficit spends. So, Congress wants the Treasury to manage the debt through the roll over method, and it is Congress’s own fault that the United States has any public debt today, or it would be except for the following.
Third, another way the Treasury can pay back the national debt, if it wants to, and without increasing taxes, is for it to use Proof Platinum Coin Seigniorage (PPCS). Since passing some obscure legislation in 1996, Congress allows the US Mint to produce coins of arbitrary face value using Platinum. A coin with face value $1 Trillion could be minted and deposited in Mint’s account at the New York Fed. The coin would be legal tender, so the Fed would have to accept the deposit and mark up the Mint’s account. The profit (the face value – the cost of making the coin) can be swept by the Treasury into its own account, and then used to mark up private sector accounts in Government spending, including repayment of debt instruments when they come due. Enough coins can be produced from time-to-time to both eliminate the gap between taxes and spending (the deficit), and also to redeem debt instruments. Or, alternatively, for example, the Mint could produce a single proof platinum coin with a face value high enough to cover complete repayment of the public debt and likely deficit spending for a number of years as in this $60 Trillion plan.
So, there are least three ways to manage the public debt, two of them allowing it to be paid off, which don’t involve increasing taxes. That’s why the burden of that debt is illusory, and that’s why our new Vice-Presidential candidate Paul Ryan is telling us all a fairy tale when he says we face a crushing burden of debt.
What about his remark that the debt will soon eclipse our whole economy? I suppose he means that its size will soon match our annual GDP, which is true, because as of this writing it is near $16 Trillion. But that comparison is a silly one, as is the debt-to-GDP ratio derived from that kind of thinking.
The GDP is an annual statistic. The debt (roughly) is the accumulation of deficits since Andrew Jackson last paid it off in January of 1835. So a fair comparison, if Ryan wanted to make it, would be the national debt compared to the sum of the annual GDP since 1835. I won’t calculate that sum, but a back of the napkin calculation indicates that the close to $16 Trillion national debt is about 8% of the cumulative GDP during the past 20 years. Isn’t it funny, how the severity of the debt picture can be greatly affected by the denominator one uses in one’s debt-to-GDP ratio?
To tell the truth though, neither the size of the national debt, nor the debt-to-GDP ratio, whatever the denominator used, are relevant to the capacity of the Government to spend either in the present, or in the future, because their size has nothing to do with the Constitutional authority of the US Government to issue currency and create money, and also has nothing to do with the solvency of the United States Government, which is guaranteed by the US non-convertible fiat currency, accompanied by a freely floating exchange rate, and external debts denominated in any other currency than the dollars our government has the unlimited constitutional authority to create. So, not only is Ryan’s comparison inappropriate, but it’s also irrelevant to the real issue being raised which is the continued solvency of the Government.
In my next post, I’ll discuss more of Ryan’s follies. But before I do that it’s only fair to note that the so-called “debt problem” isn’t a construct confined to Congressman Ryan, or even he and his boss, Mitt. It’s a “problem” that has also been spoken of in similar terms by President Obama, and one of his favorite appointees to his Fiscal Commission, and his reputed favorite to succeed Tim Geithner as the next Treasury Secretary, Erskine Bowles. So, the particular Ryan folly we’ve considered here is far from his and the Republicans alone, but also is well-represented in the highest reaches of the Democratic ranks. That’s why more and more people, contemplating the current political scene in the United States, are concluding that the American people are about to be screwed real good and proper by their political elites, and their utterly counter-productive, utterly stupid, and utterly immoral policy of more tax cuts for the very rich and austerity for the rest of us!
(Cross-posted from Correntewire.com.)




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Exactly! Rec’d. Thanks.
The the graphs of federal debt since 1940 both as a percent of GDP and also in current dollars can be seen here. The thing to notice is that it took a lot of deficit spending to get us out of the Great Depression and it is taking a lot to get us out of this recession. But our debt-to-GDP ratio is still less than it was at the end of WWII. Also, note that we’ve never paid off the debt that we had at the end of WWII, but our GDP has grown to the point that that portion of our debt is only about 25%.
Wow:
The ones who are soft are the American sheeple.
And Paul Ryan, like Alan Greenspan, is a self-proclaimed follower of a crazy lady from Russia who preaches the gospel of selfishness and believes that altruism is a vice — the exact opposite of the teachings of Christ.
Better he would have gone out and gotten laid at 20 instead of launching into the hyper moneyporn of the hack writer.
Just another self-indulgent son of the 1%.
Cokie saying on GStep’s show that O campaign should be talking about Title 9 instead of pandering choice.
Here’s another one: women of a certain age who are caregiving for parents, kids back home, raising grandkids…uncertainties they face are not assuaged by slick Jon Hamm lookalikes doing their Mission Accomplished moment.
But apparently not by taxes levied on rich people.
NPR puff-coverage of Ryan praises his bringing `substance’ to the campaign.
But then they never get to the substance of the substance.
Other than to say that Ryan’s been criticized by `some Deomcrats’.
Former Reagan and Bush I economist Bruce Bartlett apparently doesn’t count.
And why are our present-day robber barons so successful? For the reason that so preoccupies comrade lgid: cultivated delusions.
Capitalism is now a de-evolutionary force and fraud is it’s method. You can waste your reactionary time demolishing fraudster shibboleths or you can look to their demolition.
Who wants to reform fraud, comrades?
Funny no mention is made of cutting military spending only SS, Medicare, aid to the poor and education.
Military spending does create jobs yes but unless we win a war and the war pays for itself somehow the over all economy gets no benefit.
If we spend on infrastructure however roads get built products get to consumers faster resulting in economic benefit.
If we spend on burying power lines then when a storm comes less people are without power when a storm comes.
The benefit is in summer people, stores and restaurants throw out less spoiled food because Fridge lacked power.
In winter less people freeze because they don’t have power.
We need to spend money on stuff that benefits society beyond the initial spending to create jobs.
http://current.com/shows/viewpoint/videos/paul-krugman-calls-paul-ryans-budget-a-fraud/
Mitt wants to run on a budget that increases the debt while attacking Obama on the debt?
“If all the economists were laid end to end they couldnt reach a conclusion.”
I find Paul Ryan a small minded elitist with not an ounce of compassion in his scrawny little body. But that is just my opinion of course. I find those who believe his program of cuts and abandonment of those who need a safety net short sighted and mistaken in the extreme. That anyone here in this nation could think that defense spending should be escalated while welfare eliminated and social security privatised always shocks me, naive I guess.
My faith in the American people leads me to think that those who follow the execrable politics of Ryan, Romney and ,yes, Obama too, are simply succumbing to the endless propaganda of our no longer free or unbiased media.
As to Allen’s comment regarding NPR’s coverage of the Ryan candidacy, well, I find it a poor example of the actual coverage and intent. As a constant listener to NPR I must correct this posters’s mistaken, or perhaps biased, reportage. What I heard on NPR was that Ryan solidifies the difference between the two sides vying for the office not that they “praised” him. Methinks that, as the campaign evolves, or perhaps devolves, Mr. Allen will find much more substance in NPR’s coverage. Not bias I hasten to add but solid facts, which, I am certain, this poster will applaud.
What never gets mentioned in FDR increased taxes on the rich around 90% then created tons of jobs and guess what it worked better than what Obama os doing now.
Mitt and Ryan seem to want to follow the English model of cutting government spending a model which is tanking the English economy.
I am all for new ideas, theories, speculation etc but after trying these ideas out in the real world and they don’t work I change my mind in response to the data.
Obama/GOP economics should be called a religion because they ignore facts and Believe contra facts.
This ThinkProgress article by Igor Volsky, reposted at TruthOut, gives a better picture of Ayn Rand, her philosophy, and Ryan’s embrace of that philosophy.
But the thing to understand is that her world view is largely responsible for our economic crash. She believed that if everyone pursues their own self-interest, the common good will emerge as if by magic. It’s what one of my Marxist friends calls “the unseen-hand job.”
In the 1950s, Alan Greenspan was literally a camp-follower of Any Rand and her posse. Per the Wikipedia:
Anyone who believes that unregulated competition necessarily leads to a stable economic system has never played Monopoly.
In any case, Paul Ryan’s ethics and economics spring from the same place as Alan Greenspan’s, and we’ve seen how that ended.
What got us out of the Great Depression was the largest “public works” project in the nation’s history, namely WWII.
I like that both Ryan and Rand had the fall-back benefit of Social Security…such nice irony or hypocrisy….Needs constant replay, imho.
Austerity is dividing English society. Austerity’s first victims are those who are not making money for businesses: the retired, the students, the disabled, the jobless, the poor.
Here’s Bernadette Meaden’s take on the impact of English austerity with its ruthless emphasis on money.
Her essay is titled: Useless, or Undervalued or stigmatized?
Uh we spent tons of money on WW2 but aside from not speaking German and ending up in death camps what benefit to the economy did making tanks, planes and ships bring? Granted I think WW2 was a necessary expense but did the economy get a benefit from this spending?
Also part of the New Deal was SS which cut poverty for old people and still does cut poverty for old people.
Bank regulation was another part of the New Deal as we have seen bank deregulation can destroy our economy.
The New Deal also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal#World_comparisons
Unions raise wages, 40 hour work weeks mean workers don’t work themselves to death like they do in China and Japan, a Minimum wage means even poor people can buy stuff remember we are a consumer economy.
Great article for those who want to sit this on e out in “protest”
The 2012 Elections Have Little To Do With Obama’s Record … Which Is Why We Are Voting For Him Alternet
(my emphasis)
Or put it another way how much benefit to our economy did we get from spending trillions in Iraq? The Conservative idea that we did not get a WW2 sized boost from the Afghan and Iraq wars because we had all those weapons in inventory from decades of bloated military budgets is false.
Nobody has 10+ years of supplies for war in inventory and if all those weapons were in inventory then why did we spend trillions on these wars?
Trillions were spent on these wars and we have seen no job creating stimulus effect on our economy heck our economy has tanked, jobs have been lost despite trillions in war spending.
Sure jobs will be lost if we cut war spending but we need to to move those jobs to create stuff that actually benefits our economy.
War Spending is government make work with no benefit to society at large beyond the creating of a job.
The Pete Petersons and other elites have worked very very hard to convince the American people that the 16 trillion dollar debt is theirs and they must pay it off or the country will go the way of Greece or their grandchildren will be debt slaves.
Now, we must work just as hard to make all Americans understand that the 16 trillion dollar debt benefited the rich and they must pay it off.
That’s what we need to do and do it immediately.
We must join together, left and right to demand the rich pay the debt they benefited from.
WE WON’T PAY!
Choosing the Lesser of two evils is still choosing evil. We can’t make Obama a better pol unless we show we are willing to walk away.
Yes if Mitt is elected things will get worse Mitt’s policies are a disaster and I have no doubt the global economy will collapse quicker if Mitt is elected President but with Obama in charge the global economy will still collapse just not as fast.
Since I wish to prevent a Global Economic collapse and the wars that will follow I oppose Obama.
I think a global economic collapse will cause more evil than a Mitt Presidency. We are heading to a Stalin, Hitler, FDR situation because we are heading toward economic collapse.
Ryan’s whole life has been through the support of the U.S. government that he is trying to destroy.
He is a vile hypocrite and thoroughly evil through and through.
You don’t have to support either.
But right now is the only time they even listen, when their asses are on the line to be elected or not. And a deafening roar from the masses needs to happen. The elite need to start being scared of us.
So make your demands. They don’t know if you are voting for them or not.
WWII got money into the hands of consumers (by putting them to work on economically useless projects). Money in the hands of consumers is the very definition of “demand,” and that demand led to huge industrial growth in the consumer-products area.
Here is something I found on Morris Berman’s web log that seems quite apropo to the ‘lesser of two evils’ question. It’s called Slouching Towards Nuremberg and is a stark description of just how dead our ‘constitutional democratic republic’ is and which way we are headed. Hint – it ain’t pretty…
You guys have not one blog post supporting President Obama, the Democratic nominee. Congratulations, Judging by the lack of participation on this site, you have officially become MyDD.
You say that “Less evil” is no different than”More evil” Do you know what you are talking about?Less is the same as more?In what world do you live?I say ,lets keep with less until something better comes along.Not voting,or voting for a losing 3rd party is a vote for “More”If that is your answer i can’t see it!”But don’t worry ,Things will get worse!
I’m beggining to wonder if my PC has tapped into an Alternate Reality. I’m reading a lot of well-meaning people talking about a system and reality that doesn’t exist in my opinion.
All of these calls for change are excellent ideas but are delusions under our present regime. They are not listening and they don’t need us.
I fear that we in Amerika are doomed to sit on the sidelines while real change takes place elsewhere.
I keep hearing “Everyone agrees that we need to address the deficit”. It is so ingrained, that I don’t see a way out. Democrats, Republicans, pundits, everyone except most economists. James K. Galbraith of UT Austin has written extensively about it. This was an excellent explanation, thank you.
Right!
Agree but its better to spend money on stuff that has a return on investment also FDR thanks to minimum wage laws raised people who were in poverty but had a job before the Great Depression out of poverty if anything in the real world we have seen that spending trillions on war for ten years has not created jobs and that the trend to use non union/ better paid/ often not even American workers to build stuff for war does not raise living standards.
We need American consumers to have extra money to spend. The Bush/Obama spending is not going to American workers as much as war spending in WW2 did and the work that is being done is not paying as well as the jobs we had before Bush took office.
Mitt is drain cleaner Obama is tobacco both will kill you in the end. Just say No to both!
Wow, indeed! Romney and Ryan fit this perfectly. Obama’s not so strident about it, but he’s steadfastly refused to recognize the element of control fraud in the success of some of his favorite people, like Jamie Dimon and Bob Rubin for example.
They are doubling down their bets just like the Nobles before the French Revolution. They should be scared of us now but they do not want to give up their wealth to help us instead they Obama/Mitt both want more of our SS, Medicare etc.
You got that right!
Right! We have to look at the continuing value stream of the things we spend money on.
Of course, they’re about using emotion to get support. They don’t care about inconsistency, contradiction, or reason. But, also that’s the nature of propaganda these days. And we don’t get to see very else.
A lot of the war spending these days is “over there.” It also includes a lot of war materiel we import. So, a good part of the war spending involves demand leakages and contributes to our trade deficit, which is why it isn’t stimulative here. During WW2 it was a lot more stimulative, because it provided full employment here. Now the Army and other services are very small when viewed as a percent of the population compared to WW2, Korea, and Vietnam. So, there aren’t that many military jobs.
I’d prefer to avoid this fight in the next few years because it’s unnecessary. Just do this to pay off the debt!
We’d support Obama if he promised unequivocally to expand and enhance the social safety net, fund deficit spending through using proof platinum coins, and also promised a Green New Deal. We’re not moved to write posts supporting him because his performance in office has been terrible. The only reason why some of us will end up voting for him is because we know Romney will be even worse. So some here, will vote for Jill Stein or stay home, and some will vote for O; but very few will vote for O because we think he deserves re-election. For this feeling O has no one to blame but himself!
Change happens suddenly. Look at Egypt. Our complaints may see futile. But they prepare the way for change. They shape attitudes. Collectively, they can at least indicate to the elite that they’re fooling us.
Any numbers on how much war spending is outsourced?
THIS DOES NOT ADD UP! CRIME IN PROGRESS!!
The GOP has complete gone rogue. The Republican voters don’t want to lose their Medicare either. Remember those TeaPartiers with their signs saying “Hands off my Medicare”. This party is absolutely stealing elections. Ryan and Walker never actually won. Not possible.
Obviously, these candidates long ago quit worrying about the wishes of the people or votes. Think about it. The GOP has always been an older person’s party. I’ve been listening to alternative right wing and they are furious. The financial elite have stolen the country through a trillion frauds, you think the elections are legit. NOOOOOOOO Possible Way!! WAke up
This is a crime in progress. Big clue: The presence of Cheney is absolutely showing the presence of the corrupt elite that want to kill millions and take over all resources. It is not a conspiracy any more. This is completely out in the open.
46 Million on Medicare. You think these scumbags are functioning in legit elections. Not possible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGnE83A1Z4U
And then they wonder why people don’t vote.
I agree about Cheney. This guy is utterly without a shred of human decency. Yet they showcase his views as if there’s only some “policy disagreements” between that monster and the American people.
He’s the guy that said, on national television, “So what?” in response to the query-”you do realize that most of the American people are against the Iraq war?”
Hanging is too good for scumbags like him.
I call ryan and his ilk the 1% whores. ryan was a failure in Congress, he accomplished nothing. But he’s not dumb, if he was able to put the plan together he must understand its inevitable failure. But the prime beneficiaries, the 1% will make sure of one thing, that is the success of people like ryan. ryan’s scheme is a get rich scheme for one person, ryan. He doesn’t give a damn for Americans. willard’s already made it, he only is trying to ride the conservative wave to bring the presidency to mormonism, but ryan’s participation is pure selfishness.
Exactly…As if the Lesser of two 2 is =; truly crazy. Lesser has a meaning if one is paying attention. Thanks
With all due respect for your opinion there are much greater issues at stake here than voting for the less evil candidate. Obama is Bush with a brain and that is , or should be, unacceptable to progressives of all stripes.
Our system of governance is in peril, our legislators are in the thrall of corporate interests only in an endless search for campaign funding. The real issues are sublimated in favor of stridency and appeals to testosterone and adrenaline fueled rants on both sides of the aisle.
Real change cannot come about by voting for the more polite or less extreme candidate as both parties are working for we the corporation and not we the people. Working to bring third party politics to our nation may not be glamorous and is certainly not for those with short attention spans, but I believe it to be the only way to force issues such as campaign finance reform and endless spending on defense to the table.
Nope! But, for years the Government has been contracting stuff out to armaments firms around the world and letting American firms compete against them on a level playing field.
All this is true; but real change also will not come from voting for the worst of the two tickets. Whether change comes or not may have nothing to do with how we vote in this election and everything to do with how successful we are in building new political structures immune to purchase by wealthy and corporate interests. Even though it was apparent by the Fall of 2009 that Obama was a cynical poll who would break his most significant commitments, progressives did little to build new political structures in the years since. We have to do much better in the next 4 years in building those structures. I personally don’t care much whether these new structures take over the major Parties or make the Green Party, and/or the Justice Party viable third Parties. But change won’t come until we do one of these things or both.
We are in complete agreement as to the absolute necessity for building third party presence in our one party system. Despite the cosmetics the two major parties are Tweedledee and Tweedledum, arguing over small issues while being as one in the larger issue of who or what controls our government.