The favorite defense of Social Security by progressives harkens back to Franklin Roosevelt <a who famously said:
”I guess you’re right on the economics. They are politics all the way through. We put those pay roll contributions there so as to give the contributors a legal, moral, and political right to collect their pensions and their unemployment benefits. With those taxes in there, no damn politician can ever scrap my social security program. Those taxes aren’t a matter of economics, they’re straight politics.”
So, today progressives echo this even though the SS Tax is a regressive tax, and anything but progressive in its impact on the economy. With the development of the MMT approach to economics, and its emphasis on the government’s ability to spend without a solvency constraint on the Federal Budget, it’s now clear that SS doesn’t need to be funded by a regressive payroll tax; but can be funded out of general revenues and also guaranteed by a provision in law providing for automatic annual funding. Some government “trust funds” are funded this way, including parts of Social Security and Medicare, so there’s no economic reason why the primary funding for both programs couldn’t be provided for these programs.
But a friend, in an echo of FDR’s view, recently said to me in correspondence:
“It seems to me that it is a lot easier to make the case that people are entitled to a government benefit if they have been paying a dedicated tax for 45 years that is described as funding that benefit.”
And I replied in the following way.
It is easier; but it’s still not easy as we now see; and, on the downside, to defend it that way we have to:
1) support the view that people are entitled to government payments only when they pay for them;
2) then defend against the attack that the entitlement payout greatly exceeds the amount paid in, and has no relationship to what is paid in;
3) accept the idea that SS and Medicare must be self-funding like any business, while also ensuring that they are “solvent” as much as 50 years out unlike any business (that is people are upset now because questionable long term fiscal projections show that full coverage of SS spending can only be projected out for 21 years to 2033, so they are calling for fixes to extend that projected “full solvency” period out to 2075 or 2080);
4) always have a very hard time justifying any increases to entitlements for current recipients, because those oppose entitlements always cry out that the Government is running out of money, and would have to raise SS taxes to pay for it;
5) never bring into the argument the fact that things are very different now than they were when SS was first passed, because we now have a fiat money system which makes many things possible now that weren’t possible back then, because THERE IS NO SOLVENCY PROBLEM; and
6) ignore the great argument that our entitlements are the embodiment of an economic bill of rights that ought to apply to all Americans which, of course was outlined by the same FDR in 1944.
In my view, the protestant ethic defense that we’re entitled to SS, because we worked for it isn’t worth the candle. It makes things easier in the short-run, but it reinforces a skin-flintism which is wholly inappropriate to our modern economy, with its monetarily sovereign fiat currency system, and is largely responsible for the rapidly increasing inequality we’ve been experiencing over the years, which has now reached a ridiculous and anti-democratic pass.
We can’t look at SS and our other entitlements in isolation. We have to fight and win the battle for FDR’s economic bill of rights, and for an expansion of all the entitlements in the American social safety net; now the stingiest, most inadequate safety net among modern industrial nations!
FDR’s strategy for justifying SS was great for the 1930s, when we were still on the gold standard. But nearly 80 years later it’s time to move on to his economic bill of rights as our justification for entitlements, and stop reinforcing the idea that it’s only an entitlement if one pays for it. It’s time to stand on the over-riding moral argument! It’s time to say that when a nation like the United States can afford to implement these rights, as the United States has been able to do at least since 1971, they then are human rights that must be implemented as part of the public purpose. Let us have a Green New Deal with a much stronger social safety net including greatly increased payments for SS and Medicare for All, and a Federal Job Guarantee emphasizing Green Jobs!
Let’s fight for that and implement it economically using Modern Money Theory (MMT)-based fiscal policies!
(Cross-posted from New Economic Perspectives.)
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That is the key, the “Class War” is a political struggle, not an economic one, that fact can’t be stated enough.
yeah…
let’s (!)…
hope springs eternal…
The major intellectual opposition to such a Second Bill of Rights will be the argument that rights that restrict government are more protective of liberty than so-called positive rights. That argument will have to be disarmed in advance.
There are models for the language in some state constitutions and in the UN’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights. The problem is that these formulations have proven not provide enough clarity when it comes to holding governments accountability. For example, courts that use a state constitution’s statement of the right to a good education has only recently been invoked to force more adequate funding of public schools in a particular neighborhood. And judges are reluctant to do things that cost states substantially more money — on practical grounds.
I suppose I could harken back to FDR. You are right on the economics but it is hard enough to keep SS as it is. If there were no fund,these bastards would use that against us. More welfare you know. OTOH maybe we should push for a fund for defense spending especially during wars.
In any case, now is not the time for this kind of initiative. We don’t have the votes. I am not sure there ever will be especially since the Blue Dogs never quite go away.
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First (no, not kill the lawyers) First let’s drop the noxious frame ‘entitlements’.
Some of my middle class, middle income friends are in a hurry to throw social security under the bus. They appear to fail to grasp that they have paid into the trust every time they have received a paycheck in their entire lives. For most of them, that means they have paid the tax on their entire paycheck incomes, as most of them fit well under the cap. Yet they are prepared to stiff the ‘greedy geezers’ who have paid in even more than they have. Because ‘entitlements.’ Go figure.
Ya know this would be a heckava lot easier if didn’t live in a parallel universe, and we would have a Democratic president, and if the Democrats held at least one house of Congress
Can you imagine how that would be? How we wouldn’t have to argue and debate with our political “leaders.” How we wouldn’t have to frame what we say, and how we say it. That they would just inherently, and intuitively know what doing the right thing is
Oh, well, one can dream
What’s that you say? Obama’s a Democrat and the Democrats have a majority in the Senate
(head explodes)
This program was a square deal between the governed and the government. It is a Compact! Now it is threatened by scum……
An energy policy and proper regulation would go a long way to benefit America, instead of never ending increases in the cost of living due to base line energy costs and gross inefficiencies in transportation.
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My largest “swallow” with your piece is the obnoxious use of “entitlement” used as Republicans have defined its use since before Reagan. SS and Medicare are simply social goods — as the giving over multi-trillion dollar monies over to banks and corporations in order to cover the egregious failures of the MOTUs are NOT social goods.
Allowing the Randian rugged individualists to sink into the depths of their own cess would have been one of the greatest social goods this country ever could have instituted. Allow the morons to live and die by their own credo. Instead we gave social succor to failed businessmen and then called them “shrewd.” Those transfer payments were the epitome of what the Republicans and most Democrats refer to as “entitlements”
Perhaps “socially useful guarantees” would be a more accurate denominator for SS and Medicare. Perhaps “socially parasitic payouts” would be a more accurate designation for the various bailouts of the masters of stupidity and failure that are major corporate and financial firm CEOs. An end to newspeak would not come amiss.
That’s an abstract argument. If we get MMT accepted and then just fund the programs that fulfill those rights people will recognize that we’ve satisfied their economic bill of rights. So, I think we just state it and act on it! Remember: “. . . spend and spend, and tax and tax, and elect and elect.” We have to get back to that and never look back!
Listen , bluedot, the votes come from anger and pressure and from demanding the things we want. We have to start demanding this, and marching for it and defeating politicians who don’t agree with us about it. That’s the only way we’ll win. We won’t win if we keep reinforcing their memes and framings. WE need to start up the new frame and push it till we drop! If we had done so back in 2010 when they first started this BS seriously we would have beaten them by now, but instead the village people used practical arguments to fight with. I warned them at the time here and here, that it wouldn’t stop the hawks.
But they knew better. So here we are 2.5 years with a good chance of getting cuts to SS and Medicare. Obama’s never wavered, he’s just pushed and pushed. He clearly believes his legacy should be the rollback of the New Deal. Now’s the time to demand our rights, and begin to push for a strong, equitable safety net. BS arguments about solvency and SS not contributing to deficits won’t save SS in the long run or protect the rest of the safety net.
Thanks Boo!
Hey Joe, here’s how I’d frame it:
–SS is off-budget and solvent for 25 years
–How did Clinton shore up Medicare trust fund?
–Apply SS FICA to untaxed income, but only if necessary.
–Speaking of untaxed income…
–In praise of Grover Norquist
Social Security is off-budget, so it has zero impact on the budget deficit. The SS trust fund is 100% for at least 25 years. If we want to shore it up for even longer, the obvious thing to do is what Clinton did in 1993– apply FICA to untaxed income. Social Security doesn’t tax marginal income above $110,000, Medicare does. This is because President Clinton eliminated the income cap for Medicare taxes in 1993 instead of cutting Medicare benefits. Likewise we should eliminate income cap for SS taxes instead of cutting SS benefits. This step alone would make make Social Security trust fund solvent for at least 75 years without cutting senior’s benefits or making them wait longer to retire.
However, we should never raise taxesw unless its absolutely necessary. When the economy improves, the SS trust fund will also improve. We should wait and see and only start taxing incomes above $110,000 like incomes below $110,00 if we have to.
I should note that we could also apply Social Security FICA to investment income (just as Medicare FICA will apply to investment income above $250k starting in January). Again though, we shouldn’t raise anyone’s taxes, not even Mitt Romney’s, unless its necessary.
On the other hand, we could apply SS FICA to untaxed income (both high wages and investments) and use additional tax receipts to permanently cut payroll tax rates on a revenue-neutral basis. Technically, this would comply with Grover Norquist’s no new taxes pledge (which permits closing loopholes if its used to lower tax rates).
No! I will not run from the vframe.. These are rights! We are ENTITLED to SS and the rest of the safety net, and no one’s going to do me out of what I’m ENTITLED to without a fight! Somehow the conservatives have gotten you to buy into the idea that there is something wrong with ENTITLEMENTS. They’ve gotten you to except that only they have rights to unlimited liberty and you have no rights. Stop it! You are entitled to a job at a living wage! You are entitled to decent heath care! You are entitled to a decent living standard in your old age! Get used to it! Fight for it! And stand up for it! And if people want to take that away from you, then realize that that’s not something to smile about. It’s something to get angry about. It’s something to fight about! And it’s something we should never compromise about!
That’s fine Beo. You frame it that way. But I’m going with the moral framing; the fighting frame. And I know that you know that we can afford it and that we can create any amount of money we need to do it. See here and here.
You can say that again!
All true! But right now everything is threatened by scum! We need to throw them out of government.
Sorry, Nichole59. An entitlement comes from a right, and I want to use the language of rights. That’s a powerful language and we need to fight for it, just as we needed 40 years ago to fight for the word “liberal,” before they destroyed its power and utility. I know what they’ve done with “entitlement.” But I think we can reverse and we need to reverse it! We need to recapture the language of rights. It’s our language; not theirs! We need to fight for our rights, and their embodiment in our entitlements!
And I know that you know that we can afford it and that we can create any amount of money we need to do it.
And I know that you know that I know. :o)
I don’t disagree with anything you wrote. My point was simply that asserting that ‘Social Security is doing fine and if it ever needs adjustment in the future, here’s a simple fix’, is an easier sell than ‘Social Security is doing fine and will always be fine’ (which is true enough if we simply scratch the SS trust fund’s 100% of collected SS FICA collected appropriations cap). But if you weren’t out swinging for the fences every day, I’d figure that you must be under the weather. :o)
Oh yeah, I do like your mentioning Economic Bill of Rights, its too often neglected but if you were to poll people on its details, its hard to think most Americans wouldn’t agree with it on each and every point.
But shouldn’t the market decide? Some say the wealthy should be free of any constraint imposed by society and in particular there should be no constraint or as little as possible on the means of wealth acquisition. If, for instance, a means of acquiring wealth is putting people at risk or making everyone worse off there should still be no tax to dissuade and no law to oppose and no regulation. This is supposedly because only the market would be wise enough to make such decisions.
Let’s see if this holds for the stock market. In the stock market there are thousands of mutual funds constantly showering down money on every firm listed in the stock exchange (in default index fashion). Regardless of their business fundamentals, listed firms get showered with money. This breeds recklessness’ as firms take money no-matter what they do. This is a pure “no constraint” situation. As a result we have weak, socially useless, money-for-the-sake-of-money-firms that think their product is money. We have (or had) a GM run by people who seemed to think the firm existed to make money trying to compete against a Toyota that thought/thinks the purpose of the firm is to make the best product it can while paying attention to the needs of all society (all stake holders.) Still, the same people (mutual funds investors) who recklessly rain money down think they can somehow demand a return. This is where it becomes a strategic advantage (ala Apple under Jobs) to ignore stock holders.
Imagine if Social Security had been handed over to this system of us paying them to pay themselves because paying themselves is the ultimate good and end? This kind of wealth extraction is simple theft. And it’s at the point of distribution vice re-distribution that we have the trouble. This is where I personally think business should be closer to the end of the line than the front
“This kind of wealth extraction is simple theft.”
Wealth extraction for America begins at the fucking gas pump and the ponzi schemes multiply geometrically from there. Between gas and diesel America will blow a trillion dollars of economic value, out the tailpipe in a year Wealth extraction or our servitude is all enable by simple theft. Square deals for Americans is an illusion just as there where no square deals between a King, his corporate cohorts in colonial crime an America’s founders…..
Fuck Corporate America………….
The original “Bill of Rights,” included economic rights. It was called the 11 Amendment which place corporations subordinate to people, not humans in servitude to corporations who then buy law and fuck the republic in that lust for easy profit.
Seems America has become like that, which created, America. A bunch of Incorporated mercantilism fuckheads, this time eating our own….
Refuse to cut Social Security unless the US military budget ceases to be the largest in the world.
This discussion just shows how defeated we are and how dominate Capitalism has become. Neoliberal economics and the power of capital, with the support of our leaders, has removed the liability for pensions from corporations and transfered it to individuals. The finincial sector has benefited by skiming rents from a much larger pool.
SS was never designed to be our only retirement income it was a baseline guarantee to keep those without a defined retirement plan out of poverty and reduce the economic drag on families and charities.
Corporations would love to see SS privatized but would probably accept the idea of funding it from the general tax fund since many of them pay little or no federal tax while they must pay their share of SS tax.
We have so little power that we don’t even talk about the loss of real retirement plans and are reduced to begging for the poverty stipend from SS.
“We don’t have the votes.”
Exactly the same argument you used against people who supported the Greens or other third parties, exactly the same argument you and your ilk used to defend Obama when he betrayed his base again and again and again over the last four years.
You are still defending the evils of rapacious capitalism and fascism which now control our government and ruin our lives.
At least you’re consistent, I’ll give you that.
In general, I am opposed to giving up good words to an opposition that has tried to muddy them and pervert their meanings. ‘Liberal’ is a prominent example. So is ‘feminist’. Therefore, I am probably being inconsistent in not standing up for ‘entitlements’. It’s just that, to my ear, and to some other people’s ears, it sounds as if it means a benefit that people have not earned, yet feel ‘entitled’ to.
I should probably rethink this because it seems that your argument makes sense.