In my last two posts I’ve been reviewing the new wave of mainstream posts and commentary on Platinum Coin Seigniorage (PCS) by way of providing background for making the case that the MSM are missing “the big story” about PCS. Thus far I’ve reviewed recent posts by Pethokoukis, Wiesenthal, and Carney, and an MSNBC cable segment by Chris Hayes. All four have looked at PCS in terms of the Trillion Dollar Coin (TDC) and its possible impact on the impending debt ceiling shakedown. None have viewed it from a broader point of view. Let’s now look at the commentaries by Kevin Drum and two from Matthew Yglesias here and here.
Kevin Drum
Drum presents his view of the theories that “. . . have been floating around. . . “ since last year’s debt ceiling crisis including: the constitutional 14th amendment option; the platinum coin, the priority of legislation (that Congress has approved deficit spending since passing the latest debt ceiling implying approval of an increase in the ceiling); and the “you and whose army” theory that even if the President breaches the debt ceiling, no one could do anything about it because they would have no standing to sue. Here’s what he says about the coin:
There’s an obscure statute that authorizes the Treasury to mint platinum coins “in accordance with such specifications, designs, varieties, quantities, denominations, and inscriptions as the Secretary, in the Secretary’s discretion, may prescribe from time to time.” Jack Balkin suggests that the secretary of the Treasury could simply mint a $1 trillion platinum coin, deposit it at the Federal Reserve, and then write checks on it. I don’t buy this one either. It’s just too outré. It’s the kind of thing that sounds cute to a blogger tapping away on his laptop, but there’s no way an actual president would ever try anything so obviously childish.
A bit unfair, I’d say. Labeling using “outré,” followed an ad hominem using “a blogger” to discredit a serious proposal without arguing against it. Apart from the fact that being “a blogger” says nothing about the quality of one’s argument in the first place, as long as Drum wants to appeal to authority rather than to reason, as a good “progressive” from Mother Jones should; Jack Balkin’s not just “a blogger tapping away.” He’s a Professor at Yale Law School; and the originator of the PCS idea, beowulf (Carlos Mucha), is an Attorney. In addition, the most frequent blogging advocate for the PCS idea, namely me, is a Ph.D. in political science and a former university professor, before pursuing a long career in Washington, primarily as a researcher and consultant. Seems to me all three of us are further away from being just “bloggers” than Kevin Drum himself, who seems to me to be the one just “tapping away on his laptop.”
As for outré, one person’s “outré,” is another person’s solid new idea, it’s not an argument against that idea. Drum got some pushback from readers about his treatment of PCS, and he then posted an update on it:
Several people have pushed back on my dismissal of the platinum coin ploy. I’m not a lawyer, but my sense is that this is so wildly contrary to the intent of the law, which was to allow the Treasury to issue commemorative and bullion coins, that a court probably would intervene if the president tried to pull this off. The other ploys are at at least minimally plausible, but this one is banana republic territory.
Drum can’t resist the labeling without justification, can he? The Banana Republic Law is the debt ceiling law, and its use to extort concessions from a safety net that more than 2/3 of the American people want proves it. On the other hand, according to a Yale Law professor and many others who have looked at it, PCS is authorized by legislation passed late in 1995. Any challenge to it on grounds of intent is highly dubious for two reasons.
First, the Courts generally don’t try to interpret laws based on theories about Congressional intent. The Justices aren’t collective psychologists who are expert at divining the intent of the Congress. They are expert, however, at interpreting what the text of a law says, and so that is what they stick to almost all the time. A challenge to PCS based on intent isn’t something any Court is likely to take up.
Second, Drum gives the “you and whose army” theory with a fair amount of conviction, saying it is the strongest theory of all. But that theory applies in spades to PCS, if we consider that the possibility of using it is written into the law, and the only one with standing to challenge it is the Congress itself, which won’t, because the Democrats have a majority in the Senate, and won’t challenge the President. Again, the PCS option is stronger than the constitutional option from this point of view; because as long as the PCS and consol options are legal, the debt ceiling legislation isn’t unconstitutional.
In another update, Kevin Drum agrees with the idea that the best option is to shut the Government down in chunks because the Republicans “would cave before long.” I suspect they would, but I think this option would still result in real damage to real people; while the PCS option avoid that damage. Perhaps Kevin, doesn’t see this because he thinks a TDC wouldn’t make any difference in the political situation in the longer run. However, if he thinks that, it may be because he, like the other mainstream bloggers, hasn’t given any thought to variations of PCS that might change the political situation and move it in a new direction entirely. Drum is another MSM blogger who’s supposed to be “progressive.” If that’s true then why isn’t he discussing how the PCS authority can be used to further broader progressive aims, rather than simply solve the debt ceiling crisis?
Matthew Yglesias
In his post on 12/06 Yglesias just refers to the TDC idea and to one his posts on it in 2011.
But resetting into a no concessions mindset, the White House has a lot of tools. Not only can he argue that the 14th Amendment obviates the debt ceiling (which I would if I were him) or have the Mint create a couple of $1 trillion platinum coins (which is weird, but on a sounder legal basis) he can use his control over the executive branch to make the lapse of borrowing authority as painful to Republicans as possible.
He says he prefers a 14th Amendment challenge to it; but then calls it both “weird” and on a sounder legal basis, which makes one wonder why it’s “weird”? Why do many MSM bloggers seem to feel obligated to characterize PCS in negative terms, even as they grant that it is a legal option? Do they need to do this to keep their credentials as among the Very Serious People (VSP)?
In his post on 12/07, he says:
Why did Congress draft a statute that doesn’t specify what denominations the platinum coin may be? I have no idea. But it’s a gaping loophole in the basic monetary framework of the United States, and pretty clearly allows Secretary Geithner to at least temporarily evade the debt ceiling by financing the government through seigniorage. The administration officials to whom I’ve raised this point generally respond by chuckling. Kevin Drum offers what amounts to an incredulous stare argument that this is undoable, “no way an actual president would ever try anything so obviously childish . . . so wildly contrary to the intent of the law . . . banana republic territory.”
Maybe so. But such is the stuff of which great leaders are made. And there is precedent for it. In 1933, Franklin Roosevelt essentially broke the back of the Great Depression by taking the United States off the gold standard. As a matter of substantive policy that was much more radical than evading the debt ceiling. And as a procedural matter it was tricky. Did Roosevelt have the authority to do that?
Sort of! He issued Executive Order 6102 under the terms of the World War I Trading With the Enemy Act. Is that what congress intended? Clearly not. FDR’s Depression-era gold policy had nothing whatsoever to do with World War I or any other war. But it was on the books.
So Yglesias’s attitude toward PCS is different from the other bloggers. He recognizes that it’s legal and that a great President will use any law on the books that will help him do what’s necessary at a particular time. And about PCS specifically, he says later:
I don’t think it would be a good idea for the government to be routinely financed by coin gimmicks, but it’s a much better option than the alternative of default or endless debt ceiling crises. Putting the platinum coin on the table is a good way of clarifying that whatever House Republicans say or do, default is not an option and no concessions will be made so they ought to save face and embrace the McConnell Principle.
So, Matthew Yglesias wants to have the President tell Congress that whatever the Republicans do, he has the coin alternative to use to avoid the debt ceiling, and then rather than use it, negotiate something like the McConnell principle to avoid debt ceiling controversies in the future. But, why does he propose this? There are so many other alternatives, and this is such a trivial think to get in return for the PCS power, which is after all, the Ace of Trumps in this game.
– The President could tell Congress that he has the coin alternative and insist that they repeal the debt ceiling legislation entirely or he will use it.
– Or he could tell them nothing, and just use the coin power to mint a coin sufficiently large to buy all the Fed debt and to redeem all the Intra-governmental debts creating accounts at the Fed for the Trust funds. That would lower the debt subject to the limit to something like $9.5 T, making the debt ceiling issue a dead letter for at least a few years.
– Or he could do something really radical like mint a $60 T coin, and immediately start repaying the intra-governmental and Fed debts and all the other debt instruments, while leaving nearly $44 T still available to cover future deficit spending for 15 – 20 years.
Why wouldn’t real progressives such as Matthew Yglesias claims to be, favor an alternative like that, since it changes the political context by removing the memes of “we’re running out of money,” “SS and Medicare are fiscally unsustainable,” and “our grandchildren will bear the horrible burden of our enormous national debt,” from the political debate?
It’s a puzzle isn’t it?
Looking at the posts of Pethokoukis, Wiesenthal, Carney, Drum, and Yglesias, we’re seeing certain common elements. None goes beyond discussion of PCS in the low trillions, and generally there’s a focus on the TDC meme and its relationship to the debt ceiling.
Also, none is concerned with how the existence of PCS is related to the option of challenging the debt ceiling legislation by using the 14th Amendment. Chris Hayes’s cable segment follows the same pattern.
An emerging recommendation from some of these posts is for the President to use the TDC option as a threat in the background of his negotiations with the Republicans and then settle with them on some arrangement that makes it much more difficult for debt ceiling crises to occur in the future. This is a very conservative and unimaginative approach to the present situation, and there’s not a lot of difference of opinion among the MSM commentators. TDC is “weird” or “outre.” It’s probably legal. But it’s bizarre. Use it as a threat to defuse the present situation. But, once there’s a deal with the Republicans then put it back on the shelf, and go on with politics as before. Is that all we want to get out of the legislative authority for the Treasury to create seigniorage revenues by using the Fed’s authority to create reserves in unlimited quantity?
The next one will discuss the Bradford and Plumer posts!
(Cross-posted from New Economic Perspectives.)



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The notion that someone would find “weird” the payment of the government’s bills with fiat money is weird indeed. Let me give you real weirdness:
* The payment of hundreds of billions of dollars in interest annually on a totally unnecessary national debt.
* The counting of debt held by the Fed as “public debt” for purposes of the debt limit.
* The provision of the law that allows a session of Congress to renege on expenditures appropriated by previous sessions.
In fact, there’s nothing weird about paying appropriated expenses from coin seigniorage. We’ve been doing that ever since the establishment of the Treasury in 1792. Last year for example, we paid for about $10 billion of our tax deficit via coin seigniorage.
I presume that you agree that what we’re proposing is not the one-time minting of some high-value coins, but rather a new policy for how the nation covers its tax deficits. We currently do so via a 99-to-1 mixture of borrowed money to freshly issued money. We propose that the ratio be allowed to shift to whatever mixture is economically optimal. Simple as that!
And that money would pay for whatever expenses Congress in its wisdom appropriates that are not covered by taxes (but noting that it would be unwise to appropriate excessive expenditures when the economy is operating near capacity). Among the expenditures that should be considered for appropriation would be the retirement of existing debt in order to save on interest expenses, which per a November CBO report is likely to grow as a percent of GDP under current policies as follows:
2012: 1.4%
2020: 3.0%
2030: 6.4%
2040: 10.9%
2050: 16.6%
2060: 23.4%
2070: 31.4%
2080: 41.0%
Good post, Joe. I think these guy are writing about “the coin” because it makes for a good journalistic hook. And of course they have to ridicule the idea at the same time they’re discussing it so as to maintain their standing in the Church of the Serious People.
I do have a question about your last line:
Is that all we want to get out of the legislative authority for the Treasury to create seigniorage revenues by using the Fed’s authority to create reserves in unlimited quantity?
Are you saying that the treasury authority to mint coin is analogous to the Fed’s authority to create reserves and should be used in a similarly accommodative manner but for the purpose of covering budgetary shortfalls? If so, I agree, but I think the way you put it is a little confusing. Most people think the Fed “prints money” and they do print the notes that we use as cash, which adds to the confusion. The Fed’s provision of reserves only serves the “inside money” system of the banks as far as I know.
From Thom Hartmann’s interview with Hellen Hodgson Brown, 09 December 2008
Link; Thom Hartmann Program
Ellen mentions this in the 2007 edition of her book, Web of Debt. A blogger/commenter who goes by the handle “clonal antibody” has a lot of comments about this and (IIRC) claims that there is some evidence that some of the drafters of 31USC5112(k) were aware of the possibilities they were enabling. (I chased that stuff down via a lot of googling several months ago, and what I found didn’t seem entirely definitive. But my time was very limited.)
As long as we’re talking about ‘missing the point’, let’s consider that PCS could save the status quo without fixing the underlying problem of the Banks control of our currency.
From this perspective, maybe the PTB/MOTU should be pushing the PCS solution as a way to avoid the real ‘fix’ for what ails us, that being the option of our government taking back the right to create our country’s currency, all currency, not just coins, in the interest of the economic health of the American people.
Taking back the right to create our money should be the focus, although the PCS topic is germane to this topic, IMHO, it is a sub-topic, and because it is easily targeted as an ‘exotic loophole’ to successfully obscure the underlying logic of taking back our monetary system from the Fed, it unnecessarily complicates what is actually a simpler debate.
Who should control the creation of our country’s currency?
Congress gave control of our currency to the Fed, and Congress should take that control back.
Yes, Web of Debt, fantastic book;
Here’s her blog; Web of Debt.
I think you’re right; the people who drafted that law had an understanding of its ultimate implications.
I think they buried a ‘magic bullet’ in the law, if only our president had the balls to use it.
That’s a very big ‘if’, and there’s really not much evidence that he’s looking for, or sympathetic to a ‘real’ solution.
That’s what brings me back to the main point of a straight forward taking back of the right to create our money, because many of the same people who can so easily be persuaded to see PCS as ‘strange’ could be persuaded to understand the wisdom of exercising our Constitutional Right to control our own money.
SORRY…
It’s Ellen Hodgeson Brown of course.
We already have the right to create our own currency under 31USC5112(k) and simply are not using it very much (about $10 billion per year now in coin seigniorage, i.e., 1% of the deficit).
If we wanted to disempower the banks, we could refuse to accept bank checks in payment of taxes, but paying taxes in coins could get a bit awkward. In fact, when I was in my teens, a local farmer tried to pay his taxes with dollar coins dipped in sheeps’ blood.
In fact, there will always be derivative/secondary currencies. And, I don’t think they are a bad thing. In fact, Bernard Lietaer has been encouraging the development of what he calls “complementary currencies.” Also, William F. Hummel notes that Non-Bank Financial Institutions (NBFIs) issue about five times as much credit as banks do, and credit is money. (I strongly recommend his web site on monetary matters.)
Taking back the right to create All currency is a top-level fix, whereas using the loophole provided under 31USC5112(k)is an option that is being/will be made impossible in the manner we are now witnessing.
If the president wished to use the option of PCS, he could, but I don’t see evidence that he wants to change the staus quo, in fact I predict that we’ll eventually hear the president insult the very notion of PCS by joining those who call it ‘outre’, ‘silly’, ‘far-fetched’ or some other derisive term ment to sideline the discussion.
…And yes, Bernard Lietaer’s ideas are very persuasive.
Get rid of the Fed, create our own money/currency, and enable/encourage the development of “complementary currencies.”
It’s a recipe for peace and prosperity, but first we must defeat the forces that will protect the power of the Fed at all costs.
It will be a monumental task.
So far as I know, there’s nothing stopping anyone from issuing their own currency right now. In fact, a few decades ago S&H Green Stamps constituted something of a parallel currency, and Bernard LieTaer says that something similar is now going on with respect to frequent-flyer miles. Also, a few years ago, there was something like that going on with one of the on-line dungeons&dragons games.
The only thing that’s special about the U.S. Dollar is that the U.S. government accepts dollars in payment of its taxes and declares coins from the Mint and notes from the Fed to be “legal tender for all [dollar-denominated] debts, both public and private.” Other than those two factors, so far as I can tell, the dollar is just another currency from the legal perspective.
Hi wilvick, check out the final post in the series. I make things much more clear when I’m giving the big story they missed. But I am saying that the Fed can swap reserves it creates for the Treasury’s coin. And that the Treasury once it shifts most of those reserves to the Treasury General Account (TGS) can spend the reserves.
Clonal is one of our MMT guys. He was researching the origin of 31USC5112(k) the basis for the Platinum Coin Seigniorage proposals. I don’t think he has anything definitive either about who put that into the law. Ellen Brown’s has been interested in the coin possibilities for some time and has mentioned the coin seigniorage idea in that 2007 book. But she’s never tied it into the law allowing the Mint to create platinum coins of arbitrary face value.
The Federal Reserve System says it’s part of the Government on its web site. Also, the Board of Governors is a Government Agency. The regional banks are not and are privately owned, but are tightly regulated by the Board and the Federal Open Market Committee which sets monetary policy.
Having said that I agree with you that we ought to nationalize the Fed system. I see no reason why banks should be privately owned, and the big banks are dangerous to us all. The danger is best ended by nationalizing them.
But that’s not the story here, because we’re not talking about new legislation since that could never get through the Congress anyway. The big story is different here; it’s about a more comprehensive analysis of the difference PCS as specified in the 1996 law makes. I treat that in the final installment, which is now up.
The only way to do that is to nationalize the system. I’m for that, but we can’t do it anytime soon. On the other hand can use the coin power; so I think we ought to pressure him to use it!
May be so; but we fight against being sidelined! he can call it outre all he wants; but if he decides to cause pain rather than do the outre thing, then it will be on him and his party.
My point exactly. So, in the meantime, I’m going to push PCS!
That makes it pretty special!