In Alfred Hitchcock’s classic thriller, Shadow of a Doubt, spunky, high school grad Teresa Wright discovers her beloved uncle is a serial killer. Wright’s subsequent efforts to protect herself and others from psychopathic Joseph Cotten are continually frustrated by the extraordinary denial of her family and her community lost in the “thrall” of the worldly, smooth-talking Uncle Charlie. Heartbroken and distraught, she must contend with her uncle’s violent agenda while being obstructed by a naive and vulnerable community of his enablers and/or soon to be victims.
Wright’s predicament of horror resonates as I witness my – our – psychopathic (proverbial) uncle – Uncle Sam, the U.S. government – perpetrate violent crime upon crime against humanity enabled by a maddening, morally mute, over-trusting, under-informed citizenry.
I can’t wrap my mind or heart around the lack of outrage and empathy among my leaders and the vast majority of my fellow citizens. The Iraq war was launched illegally. The torture program is against the law. The Geneva Convention was ratified by Congress. Habeas corpus has been in place since 1679. The atrocity of 9/11 apparently justified a “gloves off” bloodlust defiance of the legal and moral pillars of our democracy. All these years since, the mandate for constitutional and moral justice "for all" goes unheeded.
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article23017.htm
John Pilger writes in his article, Mourn on the 4th of July:
Since 1945, by deed and by example, the US has overthrown 50 governments, including democracies, crushed some 30 liberation movements and supported tyrannies from Egypt to Guatemala (see William Blum’s histories). Bombing is apple pie. Having stacked his government with warmongers, Wall Street cronies and polluters from the Bush and Clinton eras, the 45th president is merely upholding tradition. The hearts and minds farce I witnessed in Vietnam is today repeated in villages in Afghanistan and, by proxy, Pakistan, which are Obama’s wars.
In his acceptance speech for the 2005 Nobel Prize for Literature, Harold Pinter noted that "everyone knew that terrible crimes had been committed by the Soviet Union in the postwar period, but "US crimes in the same period have been only superficially recorded, let alone documented, let alone acknowledged, let alone recognised as crimes at all". It is as if "It never happened. Nothing ever happened. Even while it was happening, it wasn’t happening . . . You have to hand it to America . . . masquerading as a force for universal good. It’s a brilliant, even witty, highly successful act of hypnosis."
I want Pilger to be wrong about our history and this promising new administration. But I am learning more and more of our real “Ugly American” history. And the U.S. militarism I had thought was fueled by the Bushco neocons undeniably has escalated under Obama. Also, the Geneva Convention’s rules of engagement and the writ of habeas corpus go unrestored. In fact, serious amounts of our taxpayer dollars are now and most likely will be spent for the legal defenses of the major architects of illegal torture challenged by their alleged victims.
I was stunned to read that only 29% of the citizenry are against torture of any kind. It awes me to hear torture being justified, normalized, decriminalized by the military, citizenry, politicians, media, and those government lawyers that parsed the letter of the law, trashing its obvious spirit, minimizing the savagery of torture with euphemistic labels that are obligingly echoed by much of the corporate media. "Enhanced interrogation techniques." Monstrous methods of inflicting debilitating psychological and physical pain on victims. Techniques that along with being illegal are universally regarded as unreliable. Reliable only in generating false confessions.
I put on a black armband about two months ago. I needed to concretely register my outrage at what had been immorally and illegally done by my country’s agents. I was troubled by the slowness of this new, seemingly reasonable administration to acknowledge accountability and offer us, deceived citizens, reassurance that such atrocities would not continue and acknowledge culpability to those innocent people whose lives had been damaged and in some cases, over one hundred, literally destroyed by torture (i.e., killed from overzealous torturing).
I had hope this new government would be — well — “stand-up” — transparent — would exhibit basic and common decency. Since only a fraction of the Guantanamo detainees have proven to be legitimate suspects (in blatant contradiction to the lying talking points of our corporate media-courted ex-vice president), some official expression of regret seemed the minimum due those released after having been erroneously rendered, caged and tortured for in some cases seven interminable years. I have heard that a part of the conditions for a detainee’s release involved signing a confidentiality, denial and/or non-liability waiver. A final grand act of psychological torture, it would certainly seem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_El-Masri
One erroneously rendered man, Khalid El-Masri, has not been silent and has presented an outrageous tale of injustice. This from Wikipedia.
El-Masri travelled from his home in Ulm to go on vacation in Skopje at the end of 2003. He was detained by Macedonian border officials on December 31, 2003. …. He was held in a motel in the Republic of Macedonia for over three weeks and questioned about his activities, his associates, and the mosque he attended in Ulm.
The Macedonian authorities also contacted the local CIA station, who in turn contacted the agency’s headquarters in Langley, Virginia.
[snip]
… a "black snatch team", came to Skopje, and detained him. El-Masri alleges that they beat him, stripped him naked, drugged him, and gave him an enema. He was then dressed in a diaper and a jumpsuit, and flown to Baghdad, then immediately to "the salt pit", a covert CIA interrogation center in Afghanistan which contained prisoners from Pakistan, Tanzania, Yemen and Saudi Arabia.
[snip]
El-Masri wrote in the Los Angeles Times that, while held in Afghanistan, he was beaten and repeatedly interrogated. He has also claimed that he was sodomized. He was kept in a bare, squalid cell, given only meager rations to eat and putrid water to drink. In February, CIA officers in Kabul began to suspect his passport was genuine. The passport was sent to the CIA headquarters in Langley where in March the CIA’s Office of Technical Services concluded it was indeed genuine.
Discussion over what to do with El-Masri included secretly transporting him back to Republic of Macedonia, without informing German authorities, dumping him, and denying any claims he made. In the end they did inform the German government, without apologizing, and were able to persuade the Germans to remain silent. In March 2004 El-Masri took part in a hunger strike, demanding that his captors afford him due process or watch him die. After 27 days without eating, he forced a meeting with the prison director and a CIA officer known as "The Boss". They conceded he should not be imprisoned but refused to release him. El-Masri continued his hunger strike for 10 more days until he was force-fed and given medical attention. He had lost more than 60 pounds since his abduction in Skopje.
In April 2004, CIA Director George Tenet learned that El-Masri was being wrongfully detained. National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice learned of his detention shortly thereafter in early May and ordered his release. El-Masri was released on May 28 following a second order from Rice. They flew him out of Afghanistan and released him at night on a desolate road in Albania, without apology, or funds to return home. He claimed that at the time he believed his release was a ruse, and he would be executed. He was eventually intercepted by Albanian guards, who believed him to be a terrorist due to his haggard and unkempt appearance. He was subsequently reunited with his wife who had returned to her family in Lebanon, with their children, because she thought her husband had abandoned them.
There is so much appalling in this tale. But most staggering to me was that he was confirmed innocent early in March 2004. He was not released until May 28th. Torture of any of these suspects goes against the Geneva Convention and horrifies. But this officially innocent man was kept caged an additional two months while, for a significant part of that time, the Bush cabal presumably haggled over how best to minimize or cover-up their mistake. Abiding by the so-called 11th commandment, “Don’t Get Caught”. Impression management at all costs. No honor. No integrity. No EMPATHY. They had him unceremoniously dumped in a desolate location. This is what they came up with after such an insane period of callousness.
And American citizens ask innocently, “Why don’t they like us?”
This was to be a short introduction to a sober, non-ranting exploration of what I honestly consider a sociopathological lack of empathy among my fellow citizens and our administrations, past and present. There are sociological and psychological phenomena that foster the empowerment of evil in this world, and we are all susceptible to them, myself very much included. We recognize exhibitions of evil in varying degrees in individuals and ourselves on a daily continuum due to many factors, short or long term. Episodic or chronic stress, addict-/co-addict behavior, neurosis, sociopathy.
But when this evil manifests on such a collective and global level, and echoes the worst periods of the world’s history, it is a profound mystery that demands serious study by those awake enough to protest it. I want to call it “the Satanization of America”. For what I see happening, that is not hyperbolic. At this point in my concerned citizenship, I am moving beyond anger into an awe of the scope of the – well – I can only call it downright and seriously unchallenged evil.
If you can bear with me, I will resume this particular investigation in a Part 2, upcoming Seminal diary.



39 Comments




Maybe it would help if Americans learned their history first you can’t expect outrage over stuff you don’t know. Course Lynn Cheney gets all angry when you tell the truth like that.
Politically Correct it means Racism is ok and don’t you dare tell the truth about history.
He is continuing Bush’s policies but lets face it Bush would have had him killed if he undid it all day one.
I like the slow leak policy it gives the public time to accept the truth. I know I’m hoping here Libby.
Fixed Poll torture for people we blame for 9/11 sure. Torture in general Nope we are not that Evil.Fox poll?
We need to get these stories on the news. Before we put Bush on trial.
Recommended. Top-Notch diary, Libby. It should be on page 1 and picked up by the so-called Big Papers.
Time and again as I read your diary I thought to excerpt a point and expound on it; soon I realized the entire article would have to be reproduced here. What will it take to “awake the sleeping giant” that is the American public, the majority of whom prefer denial about the unthinkable monster that our government has become?
As you know, I’ve been tracing back to try to learn when this secrecy in government got its hold. I was astounded to learn that the ’state secret’ dodge was first used in the Aaron Burr case. Col. Wilkinson of that time claimed that revealing a certain letter ‘would endanger the national security’.
But the next ‘national security’ travesty of justice was in the 1949 Reynolds case which used that claim to cover up aircraft maintenance negligence. Since that Supreme Court decree (they did not even look ‘in camera’ at the accident report) more than 500 cases have been determined using that case as precedent.
I read a report which stated that in all the years prior to 2001 the state secret claim had been used 6 times by the executive; during Bush’s 8 years it was used 23 times.
IMO, every diarist, reporter and author of books that tries to reveal the unlawful acts and strategies of the power grabbers is our nation’s most precious treasure.
Libby Liberal “I can’t wrap my mind or heart around the lack of outrage and empathy among my leaders and the vast majority of my fellow citizens.”
Libby this is one of the most amazing post I have ever read here at FDL. While all of the heavy hitting bloggers at FDL express outrage everyday through their political actions and encouraging all of us to stay involved and keep pushing.
But your post expresses the deep outrage, the ability to reflect on the long and destructive history of our country and how we effect others on the planet and how all of this destructive behavior has been wrapped in the American illusion and rhetoric.
Can we actually shift can we actually be honest. Sure does not look like it. But lets keep trying.
And also acknowledge that millions marched against the immoral and illegal invasion of Iraq and 30 millions marched against the invasion (before the invasion) world wide. Plenty of outrage but the MSM just did not cover us. You have to go to Iran and hold a protest to receive 24/7 hour coverage by our MSM
Incredible post…thank you
Torture the bad guys but make sure they are the bad guys.
Wonderful post, thank you. And then when el-Masri comes to the United States courts, with his story already told over and over in the press around the world, the US courts refuse to grant him any recourse bc his unlawful treatment is a “state secret.”
Libby linked your post over at EW’s. Folks should spread this one around. Filled with empathy, compassion, soul. Thanks Libby
Now THIS is what I go to blogs for.
The news that IS news but is UNDERreported by MSM-the facilitators-in-chief of the MIC.
The arrogant American is not unapt.
“When Fascism comes to America,it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross”, was said in the ’30’s.
America appears to have genetic predispostion to colonialization of other countries,much like its ancestral British forebears.
Witness the refusal during the Bush Sadministration to show flag draped coffins of fallen Iraqi vets.
It is beyong any shred of human decency that the intentional atrocities and evil perpetrated,and presently perpetuated , under every President since GWB have gone unchecked by the citizens.
“Evil flourishes when good people do absolutely nothing”.
The Internet is a tool for organization,a call to action.
Wonder why they want to start taxing its usage?
Libby, this is superb.
WHY should and ndoes a thread about birthers get more response than this?
” What will it take to “awake the sleeping giant” that is the American public, “
The truth..that is all it would take.
Why are only 29% of Americans averse to torture?
Well, how about indiffernce to the suffering that’s all around them in their OWN country?
The Gates incident brought back (it never went away) the collective attitude that the injustices and suffering of folks of a darker hue are negigible.Witness instituional racism in THIS country.
A superior thread I read a cuople of days ago at Democratic Underground has some exceptional info.
BREAKING NEWS: The Secret White World is not really Secret
Posted by FrenchieCat in General Discussion: Presidential
Sun Jul 26th 2009, 02:59 PM
“As ye do unto the least among us,ye do unto me” Jesus Christ
Yes, Blue, but the form of the truth is going to have to be harsh, up close and personal before enough people wake up and demand the change that Obama promised and has reniged or fallen very short on.
A return to the desperation of the 1930’s is not tin hat thinking. From my own childhood experience, I can tell you that’s more up close and personal than anyone wants to know.
Thanks, TCU, for your comments. The 29% I will try to track down a cite for. I should have jotted down that source. That is for torture “at all”. No torture is justified. I don’t think it is part of the Pew report which is also pretty revelatory.
The evidence is out there about atrocities on all levels. It needs to be emotionally “processed” and our fourth estate is not doing the job. The moral vacuum hypnotizes. Tis anti-feeling society. And the power of group-non-think to numb out thinking needs to be recognized and called on. Though messengers are not treated well. And messengers have to go through the crazymaking hall of insanity when seemingly intelligent and sensitive people are morally under-reacting.
acquarius, thanks so for your support, inspiration and example.
Bush’s obscene use of the secrecy act. It horrifies.
the trail of travesties in our history. we are responsible to face them down and do our homework for the survival of our own soul as well as our country’s. the arrogance and misuse of power. propagandized citizenry, like paralyzed, denying children with horrifyingly dysfunctional parents. it is horrifying for a child to acknowledge that. it is horrifying for a citizenry to acknowledge that and requires the strength to go through the stages of grief and then become a survivor rather than a victim to the corrupt matrix.
Scott Peck says sanity is dedication to reality at all costs. Our government and media are so not dedicated to reality. Rather dedicated to “lying” and “spinning” and enabling status quo momentum that is “psychopathic-corporate” enabling. Patriarchy dedicated to power and control and competition. Cooperation and partnership are long gone from the equation of governance. We need a paradigm shift back says Marion Woodman.
It is overwhelming as an individual to keep your head and heart where your feet are. But collectively, to not stay connected with reality, and we each need heart and mind to be strong enough to do that, if not it accelerates tragedy and we become serfs to the military and corporate machines.
Part of solution or part of problem said it long ago and says it today. 3 groups of people. People who make things happen, or people who watch things happen or people who ask too late, “WTF happened????”
Leen, thank you. I so admire your fight, knowledge, wisdom and dedication. One of the phenomena I have heard of “for good” is the theory of the 100 monkeys. When 100 monkeys grasp the truth, then the truth travels immediately through the entire monkey nation. Maybe Walter Cronkite who finally told the public that we should not be in Viet Nam long ago was the 100th monkey and the whole monkey US nation got it, including LBJ. How tragic that was it 60,000 or so Americans lost their lives and 2 million Vietnamese. (Gulf of Tonkin was a big lie, too, wasn’t it like WMD, to justify the war agenda). Part 2 I hope to relate MyLai to what is happening today.
I read somewhere (I’ll have to track that down, too, by a wonderful writer I think on ICH) “the US doesn’t find enemies, it creates them.”
thanks for comment torgo.
It is a conundrum wrapped in an enigma how the Religious Right , hell bent on preaching morality to others ,but are are deaf,dumb and blind when it comes to self examination.
Witness the stunning lack of dialog on the ummorality of killing untold thousands in an unjust war.
Pro-life you say?
How many pregnant ,innocent women were killed,and are being killed ?
Why kind of morality sees only fetuses of its own society as worthy of life?
I can assure you,if the US reinstituted the draft, LOTS of reformation would take place….and a whole lot less enthusiasm to indulge in bloodlust.
Mary, this “getting over” with the secrecy stuff is unbelievable. Cheney made sure the army field manual honored the Geneva Convention for the public eyes at one point but that was when he made sure the CIA was using anything goes illegal measures out of the scope of the “rabble”. Hubris and malice and evil. And evil seems to worsen exponentially as it travels unchecked.
thanks, blue. great to see you. “sleeping giant” is so well coined. thanks. they say elephants when they are babies are tied to a post with a modest rope to keep them under control. as the elephant grows it stays convinced the rope tied to a stump or post is still strong enough to keep it tied but the elephant is actually so powerful it could easily escape the modest control but it is “domesticated” and “enslaved” TOTALLY UNAWARE OF ITS REAL POWER. I feel for the blindness and vulnerability of the elephants but see how we as citizens function the same way. Conditioned to deny our strength and vitality and true power. Exploited and easily handled by our “handlers”!
Gitch, thanks for the support and the insights. :)
29% against torture of any kind. I think this matches the Milgram experiments at Yale though that is my sudden private connecting of them. Remember how when confronted with an authority figure, was it 6 out of 10 people were willing to inflict seemingly toxic shocks to fellow humans. Intimidation by the authority, overtrust of the authority was all it took.
I think we have been practicing desensitization for years. Actually for centuries. The challenge of “empathy” to those different from us. The intention to explore or the intention to protect. Fear v. love. But all of us experience that moral confusion co-existing with the homeless on our streets.
When Reagan took away government mental health support for Americans in need, the anti-socialism (a/k/a anti-humanitarianism) decision that created or exponentially expanded our homeless class and all the Repubs and Dems that underestimated the heart of the American people or maybe not and decided to not “see” them also, since they were not a voting constituency and attention to them would panic those who were empathyless and risk their “electibility”.
Also the confusion and desensitization when the vets came back from Viet Nam and were left in limbo, betrayed by their government and then a population that had lost the energy of jingoism did not know how to embrace and communicate when they needed it most.
Style not substance. As for those who take on the mantle of religiosity and are so unChristian or unspiritual in their actual behavior. Posturing and framing themselves as holy and so not. The “colossal nerve” (as my mom used to say) of evil, of the anti-social, sociopathic, damn hypocrits to crazymakingly take on the opposite appearance of who they really are on the inside. To CONFUSE. And confuse means “fused” “with” and if you can’t break through the confusion you are codependently linked to the confuser, enthralled by their unpredictability, searching to make sense and giving them a ride when they need to be confronted with their spiritual sickness. Their lack of heart and empathy.
@21
Lib, thanks for your kind response.
You must have been reading my mind.
There’s another thread at FDL which ponders why some politicians hate America.
My first response was that it became socially acceptable to hate working Americans when Reagan began dismantling the unions-it was a de facto signal to the privileged class ,and the aspirants to the upper class, that looking down with disdain on blue collar folks was ok.
Its been going downhill ever since.
Saint Ronnie Raygun,puh-leez!
A Dem and President of SAG union -who ratted out his fellow actors during McCarthy-then turned Repube when it was politically expedient.Let’s not forget Iran Contra,either.
Jeff Kaye did a thread here ,and I think you participated a couple of weeks ago.
We discussed Zimbardo and the Lucifer effect. You might want to revisit that .Falls right in line with how decent people are influenced to engage in evil.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.
John Kenneth Galbraith
If this is what you think, then use the Spotlight feature and recommend this diary to 10 relevant MSM reporters. If we all did that, maybe it would get noticed.
What bugs me is how far our country has fallen since the high days of Watergate, and Barbara Jordan’s eloquent praise of the Constitution. We need more voices like Jordan’s, educating the public about the fundamental importance of the Constitution, and how much it means to our way of life.
Bob in HI
@24
Bob, I have truly enjoyed your posts for sometime now.
GREAT IDEA!
Incidentally, I was just talking about Barbara Jordan the other day and loudly lamenting the LACK of ANY voice that even comes close to the content and intent of her oracles.
When I watch Sheila Jackson Lee,from Texas also, it is unmistakeable that Jordan influenced her.
Now there’s a life story that would merit a movie.
Also,Shirley Chisholm.
Soon…I think. This is what the truth is up against…lying politicians. Israel will attack Iran and the US will assist. Then we wait and see what Russia and China do. Hope I’m wrong, but it doesn’t look good. Obama, Gates, Clinton, etc etc..show us the proof. Not that it is the US’s business to decide who will go nuclear. I won’t be surprised at an October attack that will set off the whole Middle East and even the MSM won’t be able to ignore that. Up close and personal will happen real fast. A draft to fight another war for Israel will wake up the majority of those who are still asleep. Gates is not following the US’s own intelligence. Why is that? Look at his facial expression. Seems to be getting a little stressed, he does. Maybe he had a momentary flash of conscience? Assuming he has one.
************
“US Defense Secretary Robert Gates, left, in a joint news conference with the Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak in Jerusalem (Al-Quds)
Washington says Iran’s nuclear program is a threat to both Israel and the United States, reaffirming its ‘unbreakable bond’ with Tel Aviv.
The US and Israel claim Iran is seeking to develop nuclear weapons. Iran says its peaceful nuclear program is aimed at producing electricity.
The International Atomic Energy Agency which has carried out the largest amount of inspections in the history of the body on Iran’s nuclear facilities has not found any evidence of diversion in Iran’s nuclear program.
The US intelligence community has also confirmed Iran is not pursuing nuclear weapons. “
http://atheonews.blogspot.com/…..el-us.html
As a fairly recent newcomer to blogging, just HOW do I use the Spotlight feature,btw?
So true. That is why Rockefeller wants to be able to shut down the internet and get into everyone’s computers. I dare say the so called elite know that the internet is changing the status quo and they want to stop it from causing anymore damage to the propaganda that the MSM spews on a daily basis. More and more people are figuring out that rope is an illusion. You have a republic..keep fighting to keep it.
@28
David Rockefeller admits media collusion : “We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the light of publicity during those years. But now the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supra-national sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”
Rockefeller writes on page 405 of his memoirs: “Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.” (Activists Go Face to Face With Evil As Rockefeller Confronted)=————–Online Journal
@28
LINKY
The planned collapse of AmericaDec 7, 2007 … Their final report was released as the Changing Images of Man. … Changing Images of Man predicts an American economic collapse and a …
http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/p…..2715.shtml – Cached – Similar
I wish that somebody would have the guts to step forward and tell the American people just what “its ‘unbreakable bond’ with Tel Aviv” is!!
If another country has such a big club held over our nation, the people who will suffer and pay with lives and treasure for another war have a right to know what that club is. It appears that we have been a colony of Israel for quite some time now.
Russia and China will not stand idly by if Israel attacks Iran. Both countries have oil pipeline contracts with Iran. China’s big pipeline is due to come online in 2010. India and Pakistan also have contracts with Iran in the negotiation process.
Somebody in theObama better look at this mess with a broader scope and clearer eye and put the quietus on Israel.I agree with you and Gitchegumee at #18, if the draft were to be reinstated, the streets would be packed with angry demonstrators – some with pitchforks…or worse. We can’t take on another war without the draft. And, what about the girls? they gonna be drafted too? Talk about impeachment; that would do it.
most impressive diary libbylib .. most impressive ..
UK Government to be Sued For Involvement in CIA Rendition Program
Source: ABC News
Former Gitmo Detainee Alleges Stopover on British Island Makes UK Complicit in Torture
The British government is being sued for the first time over its complicity in the operation of the CIA rendition program.
A former detainee at Guantanamo Bay, now living back in Pakistan, claims the CIA plane that took him to be interrogated in Egypt stopped to refuel on the British island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean, where the U.S. has an air base.
Mohamed Saad Iqbal Madni is filing a lawsuit in the High Court in London that alleges the stopover makes the British complicit in the torture he received at the hands of the Egyptians and Americans and, moreover, the British government now has a duty to help him win justice.
Madni says he was first beaten up, tied in chains, and then packed on a Gulfstream jet in a wooden box when he was picked up in Jan. 2002 in Jakarta, Indonesia. He says he was still bleeding from his nose, mouth and ears when the plane touched down to refuel six or seven hours into the flight.
After the stopover, flight records show the plane went on to Cairo, where Madni says he was badly tortured. He told the BBC World Service, ”When I arrived in Egypt I was blindfolded and left in a room… they interrogated me three times. Each was for 17 hours and they electrocuted me in my knees. And they asked if I knew Osama Bin Laden or went to Afghanistan or if I met Richard Reid or knew anything about a shoe bomb or future attacks.”
Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/…..038;page=1
Gitch, thanks. I was not aware of the Reagan/McCarthy stuff. OOoo boy. McCarthy period boggles the mind and heart, too, doesn’t it.
Zimbardo’s experiment is as powerful as Milgram’s. Peck published his book in 1984. I suspect and will google Zimbardo’s dates for his Stanford was it experiment that was so horrifying. They had to cut it short, right, the faux prison guards got so cruel. Years ago I was at some new agey workshop and was in a “support group”. The leader of the entire workshop said suddenly, “Okay, now this is more of an “encounter group”. Well, people turned so cruel in seconds. What a difference a word makes. I don’t know what the agenda was of the leadership but something dysfunctional happened to many members and it was crazymaking. It was as if “honesty” had to be cruel to be effective. Yuck.
so well said. Rockefeller is up to this, eh? yuck.
Remember that line by Jack Nicholson, “You can’t handle the truth!” Well, that is the insult from the powers that be. Spend energy instead of cleaning up the mess, covering it up from the electorate.
I thought of the G*za slaughter, too, as I investigated MyLai. I worry about the angry, war against Iran drumbeat. It feels so incredibly surreal.
Peck talks about the draft breaks up that “specialization” role playing so dangerous in military.
Also, I read about women having a “care ethic” growing up and men having a “justice ethic”. “care ethic” about partnership. Carol Gilligan theory.
:) ll
Madni role-models courage. He is choosing to be survivor not victim. Thanks for sharing this.
jkat, that means a lot. ty! :)