http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23522.htm
September 15, 2009 "consortiumnews" Editor’s Note: To understand what happened to the United States over the past three decades, a good place to start is by examining the battles fought within the CIA’s analytical division over evidence of Soviet capabilities and intentions, which were systematically hyped by Cold War hardliners.
By exaggerating the Soviet menace, these hardliners manipulated the American people into allowing vast sums of taxpayers’ money to flow into the military-industrial complex. But a newly released U.S. document demonstrates how badly the intelligence was distorted, as former CIA analyst Melvin A. Goodman writes …:
In his article "How the Soviet Menace Was Hyped” Melvin Goodman intelligently asks,
And why does President Barack Obama consider Afghanistan to be an “international security challenge of the highest order” and the Afghan war a “war that we cannot afford to lose.” The terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 were operating independently of any national government and did most of their organizational work in Germany and the United States.
We were compelled to rout them from Afghanistan in 2001, but the wars in Iraq and the continued war in Afghanistan has not contributed to the security and stability of the United States.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23547.htm
Matt McCarten also questions the War in Afghanistan:
US top general David Petraeus publicly admitted that al Qaeda doesn’t exist in the country. It is based in Pakistan. So now the West claims that the war is against the Taleban – not al Qaeda. The Taleban has no international terrorist network and there is no instance of any Afghan being involved in a terrorist plot anywhere in the world. The Taleban, while oppressive, is the Afghan local resistance, who see their fight as a war of liberation against foreign occupation. They have nothing to do with international terrorism.
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All the West has done is impose a corrupt regime over a formerly oppressive one. Our military presence is immoral and will substantially increase the threat of terrorism, not eliminate it. All the experts accept that the West’s activities in Afghanistan are increasing the recruitment of al Qaeda terrorists elsewhere in the world. Afghanistan is our generation’s Vietnam.
Ever onward, our U.S. military machine, or, as a mighty hammer treating everything global as proverbial and eventual nails, recklessly, sloppily, needlessly bludgeoning on through the generations, wreaking massive chaos, death and suffering among millions — hapless foreign civilians and the solder-children of this nation.
Sen. Lindsay Graham on Meet the Press last Sunday insisted more troops should immediately be sent to Afghanistan — why, to help the troops ALREADY there, of course. How dare anyone ask for any deeper exploration? As if ongoing wrong-headed wars have their own “squatters’ rights” for longevity. Status quo or, maybe, inertia, the tendency for an entity to stay still when still, and to stay in motion when in motion. Hang the mass homicide collateral damage. Our health care program stays paralyzed while the moneyed and bloody military program roars on.
Our government leadership seems to keep the American citizenry on at least pale red or orange levels of low grade but chronic terror-anxiety alert so that the military industrial complex will have non-stop access to those generous blank checks of unwitting taxpayers handed out by a Congress of weak and/or corrupt invertebrates with their own collective terror of being labeled “soft on terror.”
Goodman relates so much of what is happening today regarding our military behavior and our global predicaments to the politicized Intelligence analyses of the past. He explores a recently released, declassified, Pentagon-contracted study from 1995 about Soviet intentions during the Cold War. Serious American misassumptions, blunders, were made is today’s consensus. But in light of the pattern of military proliferation, those exaggerations and bulletins of impending crises can also be regarded less as mistakes and more as opportunistic manipulations for power and contractual profiteering.
So before President Obama pushes us into a faux-innocent future, we need to take a hard, honest look at the past. Not only to the Viet Nam era, which is being referenced more and more now. But to the Cold War era with Russia, with those ever familiar neocons like Gates, Cheney, Rumsfeld involved even then, peddling national fear — for profit, self-aggrandizement and power.
Goodman writes:
The notion of winning or prevailing in a nuclear conflict was, of course, ludicrous in the extreme, but this did not stop the CIA’s leadership (Director William Casey and Deputy Director Robert Gates) from endorsing the view that the Soviet Red Army could conduct military operations on a nuclear battlefield and had improved “their ability to deal with the many contingencies of such a conflict, and raising the possibility of outcomes favorable to the USSR.”
The CIA ignored the Soviet slowdown in the growth of military procurement, exaggerated the capabilities of important strategic systems and distorted the military and economic power of the Warsaw Pact states.
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Several years later, the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact collapsed, and former CIA Director Stansfield Turner wrote that the “corporate view” at the CIA “missed by a mile.”
The Pentagon study demonstrates that the Soviet military high command “understood the devastating consequences of nuclear war” and believed that the use of nuclear weapons had to be avoided at “all costs.”
Nevertheless, in 1975, presidential chief of staff Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld introduced a group of neoconservatives, led by Harvard professor Richard Pipes, to the CIA in order to make sure that future NIEs would falsely conclude that the Soviet Union rejected nuclear parity, were bent on fighting and winning a nuclear war, and were radically increasing their military spending.
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In the 1980s, CIA Deputy Director Gates used this worst-case reasoning in a series of speeches to ingratiate himself with CIA Director Bill Casey and the Reagan administration.
The clearly politicized intelligence re the Soviet danger “missed by a mile.” As did the report of WMDs in Iraq. Consider what destruction for millions and what ill-gotten power and profit for a small group of manipulative, self-aggrandizing others those irrational miscalculations delivered.
Play the bogeyman card to the citizenry and feed that military industrial complex beast. We must look at the present geopolitical landscape and stay awake to dangers of intelligence manipulation once again. Respect the ferocious will of the recent and present neocon players involved in titillating us still with the threat of global terror.
The bogeymen of Iran and North Korea as presented by our leadership and an accommodating corporate media. The agenda of a dangerous ally, Israel, with an implacable will for massive offense in the name of defense against its particular enemies. Add a President who is being compared to LBJ more and more in relation to Afghanistan (though who seems distressingly smitten with Ronald Reagan — he mentioned him appreciatively again on Letterman Monday night). I’d prefer he emulate FDR, MLK and/or RFK, myself.
Mr. Goodman concludes:
The exaggeration of the Soviet threat in the 1980s led to an additional trillion and a half dollars in defense spending against a Soviet Union that was in decline and a Soviet military threat that was disappearing.
It is time to recognize the great harm that was done to the intelligence community and the CIA with the politicization of intelligence in the 1980s as well as the militarization of intelligence over the past twenty years.
If we don’t reform the intelligence process and create a genuinely independent intelligence capability there will continue to be threat exaggerations that cost us greatly in blood and treasure over the next 10 years.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23548.htm
Eric Margolis, in his article tellingly entitled “America Has Been Here Before” writes of the recurring, out of control militarization and weapons proliferation in terms of Afghanistan, reminiscent of Viet Nam:
Afghanistan’s much ballyhooed recent election staged by its foreign occupiers turned out to be a fraud wrapped up in a farce — as this column predicted a month ago. It was as phony and meaningless as U.S.-run elections in Vietnam in the 1970s.
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Meanwhile, American and NATO generals running the Afghan war amazingly warn they risk being beaten by Taliban tribesmen in spite of their 107,000 soldiers, B-1 heavy bombers, F-15s, F-16s, F-18s, Apache and AC-130 gunships, heavy artillery, tanks, radars, killer drones, cluster bombs, white phosphorus, rockets, and space surveillance.
Washington has spent some $250 billion in Afghanistan since 2001. Canada won’t even reveal how many billions it has spent. Each time the U.S. sent more troops and bombed more villages, Afghan resistance sharply intensified and Taliban expanded its control, today over 55% of the country.
Now, U.S. commanders are begging for at least 40,000 more U.S. troops — after President Barack Obama just tripled the number of American soldiers there. Shades of Vietnam-style "mission creep." Ghost of Gen. William Westmoreland, rattle your chains.
The director of U.S. national intelligence just revealed Washington spent $75 billion US last year on intelligence, employing 200,000 people. Embarrassingly, the U.S. still can’t find Osama bin Laden or Mullah Omar after hunting them for eight years. Washington now fears Taliban will launch a Vietnam-style Tet offensive against major cities.
This week, in a wildly overdue observation, U.S. military chief Adm. Mike Mullen told Congress, we must rapidly build the Afghan army and police."
‘Vietnamization’
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23532.htm
Finally, Nikki Alexander on “How To Pay Off the National Debt” offers a radical and wonderful formula for change:
What about all that Pentagon real estate owned by US taxpayers? Over 1,000 military bases worldwide. That real estate must be worth a fortune. Given the worldwide inflation of real estate values, created by the central banks, it must be worth trillions. We could close our worldwide military bases and sell that real estate to the locals who would probably jump at the chance to get rid of a foreign occupying army. We could ask the buyers to pay for the land with worthless Federal Reserve notes. That would solve their problem of how to get rid of their worthless US dollars and simultaneously give Americans a sufficient amount of worthless dollars to pay back the Federal Reserve for the national debt they created with worthless Federal Reserve notes. Without those military bases we couldn’t have wars and we should be able to drastically reduce the Pentagon budget, saving even more money ~ and lives! Just think of it … close to one trillion dollars every year being sucked up by the Pentagon would be liberated for health care, education, infrastructure and a peacetime economy. We could even get rid of the Pentagon all together. After all, we lived quite comfortably without it for 170 years.
While we’re at it, we could sell off those secret CIA torture prisons; close all those military labs that make chemical and biological weapons and the pharmaceutical labs that create deadly vaccines. This would free up enough cash to save our hospitals, schools and national parks with money left over to clean up all the depleted uranium sites contaminating 39 of our states.
We could get rid of the domestic surveillance apparatus and stop outsourcing intelligence gathering to private “security” firms, cancel the contracts with mercenaries and assassins, stop funding military recruiters in our schools and stop paying for coups in countries where people would rather elect their own leaders. That would save a fortune. Selling off the whole covert operations apparatus would have the double advantage of fetching a good price and freeing other people to live their lives in peace.
Edmund Burke wisdom is to be heeded. “Those who don’t know history are destined to repeat it.” As for Nikki Alexander’s scenario of a paradigm shift to peace, how can we get there from here?



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This clearly indicates they don’t want to do the job and they have an ulterior motive.
If they can’t get it done with those resources, then it would be stupid to spend more on what doesn’t work. We should spend less on that and perhaps more on something else. American’s aren’t generally interested in underwriting the stupid or insane or just downright ineffective and wasteful.
Maybe more field intelligence will help. Maybe new leadership would help. We’ll obviously try various things before calling a halt to farce.
Recommended. Thank you, Libby. I’m so thankful for persons like Sibel Edmonds, Goodman, Ray McGovern and all those who are speaking out at great risk to enlighten us as to what has really been going on and how we have been duped. After Vietnam we had to depend on TV, newspapers, radio, etc., to tell us what we wanted to hear – that America was still the Good Guys. Now we have the internet that allows us to read many different views of the world situation and can see how much of what our gov feeds us is slanted or outright denied and kept secret.
Here is the link to an hour-long interview: Conversations With History, Interview with Col. Lawrence Wilkerson dated April/2008. He tells it straight and names names.
There’s a lot more stuffed in my craw, but I’ll have mercy on the readers.
Thanks, acquarius. I look forward to listening to the link. You always give me gold.
What awes me is that before and after Ike made his military industrial complex remark … and that insidious, untransparent … absolute power can corrupt absolutely … secret CIA … the hawks relentlessly pushed to politicize the intelligence agencies and reports. At the end there, Cheney walked in and intimidated like he owned the place. Valerie Plame was easy dead meat for his incestuous relationship with the CIA.
To go for profiteering and amorally to consider irrelevant the death and destruction of war. And the same devils who have wrought so much now, Cheney and Rumseld, started so long ago their erosion work, hell no, successful prevarication then and like energizer bunnies they are still going.. look at Cheney… wow, with plenty of help from the sociopathology of the basic nature of corporations. Psychopathology. And right smack in the middle of the NEW administration is GATES … who was endearing himself back then by adding to the global terror Soviet spectre hysteria. And now here he is.
I wonder how Gates, Hillary and Barack are playing together now? I know HRC is traveling. But she is low profile?
I was also wondering … is there no accountability for this? Certainly not an absence of malice crime of omission of, like today, intelligence analyses that did not coincide with the agenda of the administration and corporate and military elites were jerking them around out of context. NO ACCOUNTABILITY ON THIS???
Did you see the movie, In the Loop? So much struggle and p.r. to drum up support for the war but when all is said and done, when they didn’t get enough propagandized support for the war, THEY MADE IT UP, THE SMOKING GUN.. JUST MADE IT UP. THEY JUST LIED. So, they will try to do it covertly and sneakily … but then.. they will shrug and just LIE. And ostrich citizens aren’t there to protest or explore.
So my message to Obama, if you can’t prosecute these guys, at least get them out of our way (like Gates) now!!!!
I think this tie to the early Russia propaganda is VERY significant. And media has always been there as echo chamber, drum beater, corporate and military cheerleader/propagandizer. Even worse now… like screens in book/movie Fahrenheit 451, Bradbury’s tale.
MarkH @1 …. and the horror if we do finally bail … what will happen to the people then in Afghanistan. But we handled things terribly wrong and once people have been radicalized, winning hearts and minds back is not simple. Once their innocent loved ones, killed or maimed or traumaized, how does US expect trust? And did we have sensitivty to that culture ever … seriously… empathy is not big in this country. What is it like in those circumstances and that military culture?
Didn’t see “In the Loop”; will see if I can find it. I totally agree about Gates, but he’s got most people fooled. But, Lib, let’s not think that if we got rid of Gates things could be better; the Ruling Power would just put another clone in to do their bidding.
The CIA has long been known as “the Company”; well, that Ruling Power refers to itself as “The Corporation”, telling us that the other companies under their umbrella are the bankster financiers, the weapons manufacturers, the brute military (like McCrystal). IOWs, the MIFIO – military, industrial, financial, intelligence and Oil. Probably should add in there the contract killers who are taking the place of the old Mafioso.
[I was stunned lately when I read a militry document in which the troops were referred to as “resources”.] Lib, these people of The Corporation and its Companies are not wired up like the average joe and jane. Their close ancestors were ruthless men whose motto was “whatever it takes”, brute force or cunning deception, to get what you want. They grew up in that culture of insatiable greed and lust for power and money; to them that is normal behavior (and it’s we who are the crazy damn fools). Though they spout fundy religion, they have no souls and the mass of little people who do not directly serve them are obstacles who must be gotten rid of.
The only way that I can see to break the grip of The Corporation and it’s criminal conduct is to keep rooting out and spreading the Truth about what they are doing; and yes, Libby, go back to the beginning of this current coup during the last days of WWII. [There were earlier coup attempts, some of which we still controlling us, i.e., The Fed.]
So, keep writing, Lib. The Liars have no defense against The Truth.
acquarius … love your reality check-ins!!! Invaluable and sobering. I will keep on reading up on the Corporation. Chilling.
More and more I think of Edmund Burke’s “evil prevails when good people do nothing.”
Yeah, we just have to keep on talking truth to power and each other. I saw Newshour and talked about the Patriot Act renewal at end of year on the Sibel post. Scary stuff. Sessions is waving the flag and threatening Dems with jingoism and soft on terrorism speak. Looks like Obamaco is using “secrets act” to abort cases from the get go.. due process.. evidence is not even organized before cases are tossed in the name of secrecy. Trying to get at least Fed judges to have a look at the too secret evidence before it is tossed away (too big to explore). Also, something new called “lone wolf” whereby they can decide someone is a threat without a conspiracy connection. How worrisome is that? The slippery slope of easy demonization.
I remember what happened to Saddam when he did this.
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“Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has ordered the replacement of the US dollar by the euro in the country’s foreign exchange accounts.
The September 12 edict was issued following a decision by the trustees of the country’s foreign reserves, Mehr News Agency reported. “
http://presstv.com/detail.aspx…..=351020102
Yes, Blue. I remember reading about that re iraq, and how that was a tipping point!!! Oy vey. That is an American achilles heel that wars are waged for (shhhhhh).
I haven’t read his speech, but if Obama said this..WTF? He just alienated all Israeli’s who are not Jewish. Truman crossed out Jewish State and put State of Israel. OK..I won’t tell anybody..although the whole world already knows..’g’. Even those who don’t read English can use Google translator to read PNAC.
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“During his first ever speech at the world body’s headquarters in New York, Obama called on Wednesday for the resumption of Israeli-Palestinian peace talks “without preconditions.”
“The goal is clear: two states living side by side in peace and security – a Jewish State of Israel, with true security for all Israelis; and a viable, independent Palestinian state with contiguous territory that ends the occupation that began in 1967, and realizes the potential of the Palestinian people,” Obama told the UN. “
http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1116481.html
Here’s the ‘love’ you get for your 3B a year.
http://irish4palestine.blogspo…..video.html
Interesting..they mention they have to bypass the UN’s control of the oil revenue..PDF.
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“PLANNING
FOR THE IRAQI PETROLEUM INFRASTRUCTURE: Issues for Consideration
Dated: 6 February 2003″
http://www.dod.mil/pubs/foi/gwot/09-F-1260.pdf
“A fast-growing FBI data-mining system billed as a tool for hunting terrorists is being used in hacker and domestic criminal investigations, and now contains tens of thousands of records from private corporate databases, including car-rental companies, large hotel chains and at least one national department store, declassified documents obtained by Wired.com show.
Headquartered in Crystal City, Virginia, just outside Washington, the FBI’s National Security Branch Analysis Center (NSAC) maintains a hodgepodge of data sets packed with more than 1.5 billion government and private-sector records about citizens and foreigners, the documents show, bringing the government closer than ever to implementing the “Total Information Awareness” system first dreamed up by the Pentagon in the days following the Sept. 11 attacks. “
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/09/fbi-nsac/
BB — massive surface area for corruption and exploitation, data access. wow.
the infrastructure plan… who is the author of that outline… “Guiding Principles” certainly doesn’t sounnd like U.S. legalese .. unless US-corporate-fundanetalist-speak? scary.
I thought the Russian revelations in my diary would be more impactful at FDL, a hot story but not so much? Maybe I got too cutesy with the title? It woke ME up.. Gates was a major player playing around with intelligence estimates with Russia.. same destructive mic playbook .. and here we are … cronically low grade shock and awe with periodic full trauma, last time with economics…
Rahm E. on Charlie Rose… have to try to wrap my mind around what he is saying … and meaning and not meaning…
shudder …
Blue, I had a higher opinion of the ordinary Israeli’s intelligence than is depicted in this film clip…ever the idealist. So sad, only one person interviewed spoke for reasonable discussion over violence and hatred.
Saw a blurb few days ago where Putin had literally hefted Netanyahoo out of his office by the belt after argument over Iran. Guess we won’t hear about N. bragging about controlling Russia as he has about controlling US.
Blue, this doc seems to be the first uncovering of anything produced by Cheney’s task force. Note it’s dated Feb 6, 2003, about 6 weeks before invasion of Iraq. That doc should be entitled, “How to Sucker the UN and Grab
Iraq’sOur Oil”. Oh, wait….that war wasn’t about oil. (/s)Rahm on Charlie Rose … so Rose scurries to get assurance that government will back out of the recovery as soon as possible… what a relief for the wingnuts and for the corporatists.
And Single Payer policy, the really feasible and sane plan that would sustain us and bring us to the health care black ink … is out on Pluto as far as BO and Rahm and CR and the “big” boys (HAH!) are concerned.
Charlie just asked about the “public option” feature and Rahm didn’t answer.
I am going to make more single payer phone calls to Congress. These guys really get to me.
Now Charlie is sucking up to Rahm. Rahm is steepling his hands. Enjoying his strokes for using profanity. Yeah, that is a real asset for a chief of staff… to not be able to control your angry expletives.
“Power is not static” .. you use it strategically. Oksy, the ego is beginning to explode from the screen. (good thing I am not bitter)
Rahm now saying with a straight face that “we listen to the American people.” ….. I don’t believe that. American system is one boss, the American people. What BS. Must not lose touch with the American people, don’t underestimate their desires. BS BS BS Yeah, is that why single payer never made it to the table even.. even your own doctor couldn’t communicate to you? You had to dis him? Rahm’s electrified fence. Who said that again? Well said.
Barack doesn’t need the Repubs. They are an excuse for him and the bribed Dems to not give a good health care plan but they can have their cake and eat it to by saying they tried but those darn Repubs stopped them. Public plan was a distraction from the real solid reform from the get go. And kabuki smoke and mirrors …. destroyed this generation’s opportunity to do something right for the public good. Makes me want to cry.
Blue, there will be a storm over this move by Iran. IMO, the Big Oil Boys will gladly go along with the Euro; the bottom line is their only loyalty. Saudi Arabia is locked into that old agreement to deal in US dollars in exchange for development of their oil industry. They may decide they’d rather sell their oil for real money and end that agreement. and what if OPEC concludes that America hates Arabs and that is one way to strike back that is effective big time.
Time for sleep.
Lest we forget..Cheney’s Energy Task Force (March 2001) did not just have maps of Iraq’s oil.
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* United Arab Emirates Oil Map
* United Arab Emirates: Major Oil and Natural Gas Development Projects
* Saudi Arabia Oil Map
* Saudi Arabia: Major Oil and Natural Gas Development Projects “
http://www.judicialwatch.org/p…..maps.shtml
You might be interested in this information from the National Archives. You watched Charlie and Rahm together? Brave woman. Those two are more than I could bear to listen to..’g’.
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“Previously Classified Interviews with Former Soviet Officials Reveal U.S. Strategic Intelligence Failure Over Decades
1995 Contractor Study Finds that U.S. Analysts Exaggerated Soviet Aggressiveness and Understated Moscow’s Fears of a U.S. First Strike”
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/n…../index.htm
“The “Nuclear Vault” includes all previous and forthcoming Archive Electronic Briefing Books on nuclear weapons policy, cross-referenced with an index. It also includes newly-declassified documents that may be of interest to novices and experts alike. “
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nukevault/index.htm
BB — thanks for additional enlightenment!
I was reading a transcript of Rachel with Ridge and she tells Ridge she believes the government knew there were no WMDs in Iraq but Bushco made a “cynical decision”. Sometimes a phrase fits perfectly and stays with me. I think that simple phrasing will hang with me and states it well.
I was a more than a little reactive watching Rose and Rahm. Rahm always look like he is smirking over some private joke. Rather curious. Apparently he is someone who relishes the spotlight.
I want to keep my eyes on the prize, single payer, and not get derailed by my frustration. That started to happen watching ol’ Rahm which was why I ranted a bit above.
Thanks for the always startling and enlightening materials. Will enjoy your links soon. :) libby
The UN was taking 30% of Iraq’s oil revenue for payments.
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“Until now, the United Nations Compensation Commission has had little money to settle the claims it approved. But that is changing as Iraq resumes oil sales under a United Nations agreement that reserves 30 percent of the proceeds for payment of reparations. “
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/12…..038;st=nyt
Wish I could have been there to watch the faces in the crowd…’g’.
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“Muammar Gaddafi – for it was he – grabbed his 15 minutes of fame at the UN building in New York today and ran with it. He ran with it so hard he stretched it to an hour and 40 minutes, six times longer than his allotted slot, to the dismay of UN organisers.
On his first visit to the US, and in his maiden address to the UN general assembly, Gaddafi fully lived up to his reputation for eccentricity, bloody-mindedness and extreme verbiage.
He tore up a copy of the UN charter in front of startled delegates, accused the security council of being an al-Qaida like terrorist body, called for George Bush and Tony Blair to be put on trial for the Iraq war, demanded $7.7tn in compensation for the ravages of colonialism on Africa, and wondered whether swine flu was a biological weapon created in a military laboratory. At one point, he even demanded to know who was behind the killing of JFK. All in all, a pretty ordinary 100 minutes in the life of the colonel. “
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl…..-un-speech
Franken did good. Maybe he’ll ask Obama the same question.
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“Noting that he received a copy of the Constitution when he was sworn in as a senator, he proceeded to read it to Kris, emphasizing this part: “no Warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
“That’s pretty explicit language,” noted Franken, asking Kris how the “roving wiretap” provision of the Patriot Act can meet that requirement if it doesn’t require the government to name its target.
Kris looked flustered and mumbled that “this is surreal,” apparently referring to having to respond to Franken’s question. “I would defer to the other branch of government,” he said, referring to the courts, prompting Franken to interject: “I know what that is.” “
http://washingtonindependent.c…..t-official
Blue, I almost deleted the comment @18 because part of me said, “you’re tired, sleepy and drawing reasonable conclusions on memory; wait, get facts first…”. Then this morning I went to your link, which led me on to this astounding link. which states that Saddam made his Euro based oil sales proclamation in Sept/2000. Practically on inauguration day in Jan/2001 Cheney and the Big Oil Boys and their maps and statistical data on the Middle East oil meet in secret, refusing to even reveal the participants.
The article at your link shows the document produced 03/01/2001, only about 40 days after GWB’s inauguration. The explanation of the effect on the US/UK economy and access to oil in the 2004 article at my link here makes clear the real reason for the Iraq war and the colossal distrust the Bush/Cheney cabal had/has for the American people.
Here is an excerpt from the 2004 article linked above:
hmmmm, I must pin down date in 2001 that the consortium (BP, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley and others bought IPE.)
We barely escaped war with Iran in 2005 due to the hype of nuclear threat when the real controversy was the petro-dollar vs the petro-Euro. I must re-read the current move by Iran about this. Whatever happens, let us not be lied to and fed nuclear threat BS over oil again and led into another war more devastating that Afghanistan and Iraq put together.
Thank you for this link, blue. Old “crazy Gaddafi” ain’t so crazy after all; I’d like answers to those same questions, including the cabal that assassinated JFK, for that is when the USA actively set out to control the world. (think I’ll google to learn who the governing board of Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, and the Fed were in 1963). The book, Texas Rich,
pretty well establishes that Hunt Oil was the biggest hog at the petro trough going back to the mid-1930s. In 1948 H. L. Hunt was the richest man in the world thanks to oil.
Bless Al Franken!! for the voice of sanity is heard in the senate. When Kris said “..this is surreal..”, IMO he was describing himself and the entire insane last 8 year administration.
WOW! Take a look at this video clip with Matt Taibbi and his take on Goldman Sachs and that jump in oil prices to its highest. It is in reference to his book, The Great Bubble Machine, in Rolling Stone.
I confess..I laughed out loud when I read that. And nobody had the whatever to tell him to stop, either! Ahmadinejad’s speech was better than Obama’s, too. The video won’t play for me. Most videos don’t play for me. My poor old computer has passed its best before date..’g’. So, who is he blaming?
http://politicaltheatrics.org/…..-assembly/
Did you read about what the Patriot Act is being used for? Sure isn’t used to find terrorists..surprise..surprise.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..96209.html
The US dug up corpses from 1918..and then..somehow we have H1N1. There is a patent for the vaccine before the world is told the virus exists. Baxter sent out live vaccine in Feb /09. And on and on and on. Here is some interesting news from Canada.
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“Unpublished Canadian data are raising concerns about whether it’s a good idea to get a seasonal flu shot this fall and fuelling a drive by some public health officials in Canada to delay, reduce or scrap altogether campaigns to vaccinate against seasonal flu this year.
Drawn from a series of studies from British Columbia, Quebec and Ontario, the data appear to suggest that people who got a seasonal flu shot last year are about twice as likely to catch swine flu as people who didn’t.
A scientific paper has been submitted to a journal and the lead authors – Dr. Danuta Skowronski of the British Columbia Centre for Disease Control and Dr. Gaston De Serres of Laval University – are consequently constrained about what they can say about the work. Journals bar would-be authors from discussing their results before they are published.
Skowronski, who initially declined to speak after news of the findings leaked to the media, said it’s important that the work gets the expert scrutiny the journal peer-review system provides. “
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/cap…..e_concerns
Just got my flu shot yesterday. Oy vey.
What can I say? You’ve left me speechless..not many can say that..’g’. Did you watch Wolf get smacked down by Michael Moore? He did good.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..tzer-again
I haven’t found the exact date in 2001 yet, but it appears to have been a bit of a con job. From 2003…
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http://www.independent.co.uk/n…..46200.html
Good day, blue and libby. It will take me a while to go to all your links, blue. Not to worry about me taking a flu shot; I’ve never had one and refuse to take one. This old bod has a fine immune system and if it ain’t broke, I don’t try to fix it. My very wise and intelligent (and well-read) 49 yr old daughter told her husband if he allowed their children to get the flu shots, she would divorce him; and she meant it. [a case of the apple and the tree, heh,heh]
Thanks for the links, blue. I could not find a translation of Gadaffi’s speech, only a short account of ‘he said’ by reporters. Maybe today there is a translation somewhere.
Bless Feingold! I hope he has enough support to let the sun go down on the whole Patriot Act in Dec. IMO, it was unconstitutional from the get-go and criminally enacted due to fearmongering by the Bush/Cheney thugs.
Went to your link, blue. Must admit much is Greek to me, but I agree that it appears there wasn’t much honesty on the part of the Monopoly that bought out IPE in 2001. How did it then become ICE based in Atlanta? [where there was a huge money-laundering bank which I think was later bought out by a Mexican bank. I’m hazy on this so don’t take it for gospel.]
All around, the USA has about come to the point that nobody in the world would trust us on any issue. Sad come-down from what we were meant to be.
How do you feel today, Libby? Hope there’s no reactions from the flu shot.
thanks, acquarius … no and I must erase the placebo effects of negative expectation … :) hope all is well at your end…