Senator Baucus during his May 8, 2009 Senate Hearing on Health Care Reform calls for "More Police" as single payer advocates are escorted out of the room, yet soon after his crony-CEOs of the health care industry get the mike and plenty of air time. Please watch:
The health care reform discussions have never honored the true meaning of "round table" in considering the sanest, most humane and affordable, health care reform proposals. The Single Payer Medicare-for-All Plan is a structure with boundaries from the get-go. This structure is clear and simple and, again, a structure, so it can’t by eroded by corporate-political cronyism and semantic gymnastics (i.e., what happens to words such as "robust" or even "the public plan" itself, "the" … as if there is or was ever a stable version).
Matt Taibbi describes the May 8th hearing for us in his widespread article Sick and Wrong:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/29988909/sick_and_wrong
"… It was Baucus’ own committee that held the first round-table discussions on reform. In three days of hearings last May, he invited no fewer than 41 people to speak. The list featured all the usual industry hacks, including big insurers like America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), Blue Cross and Aetna. It’s worth noting that several of the organizations invited — including AHIP and Amgen — employ several former Baucus staffers as lobbyists, including two of his ex-chiefs of staff.
Not one of the 41 witnesses, however, was in favor of single-payer — even though eliminating the insurance companies enjoys broad public support. Leading advocates of single-payer, including doctors from the Physicians for a National Health Program, implored Baucus to allow them to testify. When he refused, a group of eight single-payer activists, including three doctors, stood up during the hearings and asked to be included in the discussion. One of the all-time classic moments in the health care reform movement came when the second protester to stand up, Katie Robbins of Health Care Now, declared, "We need single-payer health care!"
To which Baucus, who looked genuinely frightened, replied, "We need more police!"
We need more police? Now, judging from the video, he seemed more smirking than anxious when he asked for more police, at least the second time he said it. But I am sure Taibbi is right, that there was great fear in him of those strong "truth-to-power" people. The strength of their proposal would illuminate the taxpayer-betrayal-cronyism of his.
Taibbi continues:
The eight protesters were led away in handcuffs and spent about seven hours in jail. "It’s funny, the policemen were all telling us their horror stories about health care," recalls Dr. Margaret Flowers, one of the physicians who was jailed. "One was telling us about his mother who was 62 and lost her job and was uninsured, waiting to get Medicare when she was 65." The protesters were sentenced to six months’ probation. Baucus later met with them and conceded that not including single-payer advocates in the discussion had been a mistake, although it was "too late" to change that.
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/7911
(Here were my two cents in a diary in response to Taibbi’s disclosure:)
I guess that was a pretty good sign that Obama and Baucus and the Congress people with all that [bribe] money tucked in and spilling out of their suits, dresses, jackets, pants, pockets, cuffs, bra cleavages, etc. were not about to get serious about a single payer option that would make the health care industry irrelevant but at the same time save 22,000 American lives a year, 60 a day, from death due to inadequate health care, or save one American from going bankrupt every 30 seconds.
Taibbi reported that Obama refused to let Conyers bring two physicians for single payer to a health care summit in March. Obama’s own physician for 22 years, David Scheiner, a single payer advocate, three months later was “mysteriously" bumped from a prime-time forum on health care, after being invited to ask the president a question. His own physician. I mean political cronyism vs. long term acquaintanceship with your own doctor?
Now the Congressional Progressive Caucus has 80 members who have staunchly supported single payer health care but they backed down on going to bat for the single payer plan when Rep. Pelosi promised to push for a strong (robust) public option. Something like the single payer. (HAH!)
Taibbi:
But one of the immutable laws of politics in the U.S. Congress is that progressives will always be screwed by their own leaders, as soon as the opportunity presents itself. And with a bill the size and scope of health care, there was plenty of opportunity.
[snip]
Once single-payer was off the table, the Democrats lost their best bargaining chip. Rather than being in a position to use the fear of radical legislation to extract concessions from the right — a position Obama seemingly gave away at the outset, by punting on single-payer — Republicans and conservative Blue Dog Democrats suddenly realized that they had the upper hand. Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid would now give away just about anything to avoid having to walk away without a real health care bill.
http://s267910656.onlinehome.us/wordpress/archives/627
Alison Landes (www.passHR676.org) shares the above video on her website and also soberly writes:
Advocates fighting for real health care reform need all the support it can muster. The old fable, Beware of Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing holds an important message for anyone sorting through the contradictions and confusion.
Divided We Fail.org is a coordinated effort spearheaded by several well funded organizations that are not friends of single-payer. They use a lot of the right buzz words, but their proposals will not bring the long term health care reform we seek;
AARP, which receives substantial income from selling United Health Care, would not support single-payer because they earn considerable income from selling health insurance, the Business Roundtable, representing 150 major corporations, has not been a friend of single-payer or public option, the SEIU (Service Employees International Union) its national office did not support single-payer while many of its chapters do and the NFIB (National Federation of Independent Business) which is not a friend of single-payer or the public option. You can find out more about its focus by googling; NFIB who are its members.
Let me add here some relevant wisdom from Samuel Adams:
“The liberties of our country, the freedoms of our civil Constitution are worth defending at all hazards; it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors. They purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood. It will bring a mark of everlasting infamy on the present generation – enlightened as it is – if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of designing men." Samuel Adams”
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/8313
And from my earlier diary, How Many Lobbyists Does It Take To Screw A Lightbulb Country? (Taibbi’s Take on Health Care):
We are the only industrialized country in the WORLD that doesn’t provide universal health care for its citizenry.
Hundreds of billions of dollars of waste from excessive administrative costs and outrageous levels of executive compensation for the insurance and pharmaceutical corporations have ruined America’s health care system.
Our vendors of health care, VENDORS — this is what these corporations are, Ralph Nader emphasizes, not our authoritarian leaders — do not deserve a second chance. Like vendors who give shabby service, they do not get a do-over. They have betrayed us and will continue to, just as the banking institutions are proving to, despite the insanely generous second chance given to them by our too easily trusted representatives.
A Single Payer Medicare-for-All health care system is the only sustainable, long term plan that will enable our citizenry to ever enjoy their basic civil right of humane and affordable health care. 20% of doctors are still on board with this choice, 80% favor a public option which would afford some of the single payer advantages, at least.
Yet, apparently, this, the only feasible and practical answer, is not feasible or practical, because the representatives we have empowered as our proxies have betrayed us by accepting such scandalous amounts of lobby-bribe money from the VENDORS. They now must compensate their bribers by ensuring that their profiteering will be sustained at the cost of the welfare of the taxpayers, at the cost of thousands of deaths of these taxpayers.
With the help of corporate media and especially with about 60,000+ anti-government-paranoids on the right, both groups hell-bent to rescue the perpetrators of our economic plight, we the citizenry are being pressed to SETTLE for what we do not deserve. We are being pressed to believe our only choice is to ENABLE THE ENABLERS of the moneyed corporate-pirates by letting them turn health care reform into even deeper amoral opportunism.
Dennis Kucinich contends Obama’s stance on mandatory health care will force 30 million new customers to sign up, whether they can realistically afford health care or not. Reform for citizenry is a Trojan Horse for the medical industrial complex.
Eat sh*t and try to smile, America. Not quite the change you wanted to believe in, huh? This is your tax dollars at work, along with the bribe money. Can you imagine how much these corporations will be making on our backs, if they are lobbying an average of $2 million a day, added to the millions already extended to our government representatives … to the President?
I am stunned by the reluctance and hesitation by the progressives to straight out demand the BEST CASE, DESERVED SYSTEM OF HEALTH CARE REFORM. SHOOT THE MOON. What more can we lose? Why don’t we insist on an end to cronyism? Why don’t we call them on it FIRMLY? Why don’t we exit denial that the prostituting representatives are remotely sincere in writing our health care bills?
We must NOT cooperate by enabling the enablers of the corporations.
There are two Congressional Single Payer Medicare-for-All bills presently being ignored, maligned or given short shrift by the citizenry, Congress and the media. They hold the true, sustainable, organically practical answer for this country.
The bills, H.R.676 and S.703.



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As I wrote at the time , I had the privilege of marching and chatting with Katie Robbins the week after her arrest. Those arrests, highlighted soon after on Bill Moyers, were pivotal to reinvigorating the single-payer movement. They were the right civil disobedience in the right forum. As appropriate opportunities arise, we will see more.
ralph… so sorry I missed your wonderful diary first time round. I look forward to hearing more about these heroes. We need them. As I said, their courage is contagious.
completely agree. it’s hard to give up when others are willing to get arrested. bless them.
Those arrests, highlighted soon after on Bill Moyers, were pivotal to reinvigorating the single-payer movement.
yes, they were.
They were the right civil disobedience in the right forum. As appropriate opportunities arise, we will see more.
and i’m looking forward to a chance to participate this time, if at all possible.
Thanks.
Gotta keep our eyes on the prize.
And also, hoping and helping with Mad As Hell Doctors, to get their time in the spotlight.
Something powerful about hearing about and even better seeing courageous people in action. TRUTH TO POWER.
I didn’t realize it until later reading the video text, but Grassley at the end whispers to Baucus if when our heroes and heroines are removed, they could be taken to a room with tv to at least watch the hearing. Wonder if Grassley knew these professionals were cuffed and spent the next 7 hours in jail, not in a tv room.
We have been waiting for years for the Democrats to take a stand, and when they do it is for a Republican and corporate agenda. Taking single payer off the table was never about compromise. Instead it shows just how completely the fix was in from the very beginning.
Great diary. I am making the journey from Montana to D.C. to be there when the “Mad as Hell Doctors” arrive. The Baucus 8 were the Rosa Parks’ of this civil rights movement. I had to join the doctors in Washington. I hope we can get truckers to join them in a convoy.
awesome! fabulous!
Hey, Feral Furball, I’m considering going as well, depending on mundane babysitting logistics. BTW, it’s really the Baucus 13; eight arrests at the 5/5 hearing (Matt Taibbi got the date wrong) and five more on 5/12.
ralph, my fault not Taibbi’s re the date. I took May 8th date off the top of article posted with the video, but I see the actual event was 5/5. Sorry.
libbyliberal, thanks for another great diary. actually thank you for all your sp diaries. i look for them and i always recommend, even when i don’t comment.
Hugh @5, I think we all knew about corporate lobbying with both parties, but I think we were all in denial about how extreme it was. Wow. When Nader said both parties were alike, pre-Bush, he was convincing and then when Bush got in we felt he was wrong, but now that Bush is out, I am back to thinking he was right about the corporate cronyism and how insane it is. It’s like greed and power and control addicts.. and how can a bunch of addicts cut it out… and even cop to the degree of their addictions? And we fight their denial, but then there is backlash against the messengers trying to tell truth to power. But many are getting the scope of it and are voicing it which is great.
montana@6 .. wow, Montana to DC!!! good for your. what an inspiration!
selise! thanks, so nice to see you!! :)
It is time to hit the streets with facts and get this ball moving. I can’t believe that the “plans” being put forward could compete for the public’s support for single payer if the public was fully informed. Even those with good insurance policies would support it. We need to put together all of the good talking points and write letters to the editor, congressmen, and anybody else who would listen. Why not create small tracts and pass them out at WalMart, parks, everywhere. Come on folks. THis bandwagon needs to be revved up.
Thanks, maps … it is amazing when I talk to “civilians” at work about healthcare issues, their eyes glaze over… and they nod in recognition a bit about public option.. but don’t seem to want to know about single payer or if they do they use the “it’s too extreme” reaction. Amazing how we get our consciousnesses raised here.. but IRL … especially when party AND media working hard for the corporations to “woo” people to worrying about the insurance companies or rationalizing how limited reform should be pragmatically or to simply stay complacent. And folks have so much to worry about in terms of jobs, etc.
Am hoping Mad As Hell Doctors will help raise consciousness. Alos to email links like one above to people. Maybe they should make or we should make HR676 and S703 pins.
It seems single payer is lighting some fire about “the public option” … but am hoping it will help itself.
Great film link. The powerful point was the international tax breakdown. To know that Canada and Great Britain pay 2-3% more in taxes than the US yet get healthcare, is quite the eye opener.
Should make anyone ask why can’t we have health care?
I think they should do a double feature with Moore’s SICKO and his new movie about capitalism. The stranglehold of corporations is so strong. And the bribes are already in to our supposed representatives. At least more and more people are wrapping their minds and hearts around the horror of the betrayal of our representatives, though many either shrug it off cynically or keep head in the sand. So many fresh hells as a distraction. And Congress likes to use “mystification” making everything sound so complicated, like those d*mn financial people. single payer is simple and straightforward and workable. But they mystified “the public option” into trust (right) us… this is so compolicated but we will do our best on your behalf (NOT!!!). And the socialism spectre is so outrageous. A corrupt regime deregulates so much (as did regimes before that) and then the same engineers that weakened the government lead the battlecry that government can’t be trusted. A good, competent government could be a safety net. Should be a safety net. How did we get hypnotized to settle and expect so little from our government. And our lack of empathy for others. A rising tide lifts all boats. 80 million people actively embraced Obama. Why can’t he have a populist sensibility from their wave of hope and brother and sisterhood????
Thanks for the video link, Libby. It encompasses the entire mindset of those that have insurance and are willing to deny others the same *luxury*.
That smirk on Baucus’ face upon having the single payer heroes removed like that. His kool-aid drinking village of the corporate elite siting there with him and his scapegoating of citizens with rights and a message making a valid request to be heard. Professional people who are up close and more personal with the health care SYSTEM than most citizens, are the ones they don’t want to hear from. And single payer expertise is not a political view among the single payer folk, it is the PRACTICAL and most PRAGMATIC one. What is it in t his culture. Bizarro world. People grab the opposite description of themselves (pragmatic and feasible) and attack the other side for their own shadow defect! $400 billion a year in savings. And Congress goes deaf to that and the media does too. WTF?
And all those bases around the world. And the cost of our military for destruction. People need food and jobs. But we are exporting arms and sacrificing the welfare of our citizens back home as well as sacrificing the lives of their children in foreign countries for a corporatized military … that uses the illusion that it is helping save us and “them” …. when it is destroying lives literally and figuratively and driving us bankrupt. But once again, our representatives are willfully refusing to end the status quo. They are horrifyingly corrupt and have sacrificed the common good, the public trust. It is horrifying. There are so many of them. And who wants to face down such a grim reality. But there it is.
A superb article by David Sirota,May,2009:
Obama for Single-Payer Before He Was Against It.
|Baucus and many others, including President Barack Obama, say single-payer is not practical or politically feasible. …
http://www.alternet.org/…/obama…..ainst_it./ – Cached – Similar
thanks for that great article gitcheegumee! your link is busted so i’ll give it a try: Obama for Single-Payer Before He Was Against It.
and here is a quote from it i may have to use in the future:
@18
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels – men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion. Dwight D. Eisenhower
Gitch, provocative and wise stuff there. Thank you! truth to power is tough love for the country. “love without honesty is sentimentality, honesty without love is brutality” I read once.
Thanks for the Cronkite lead from before, too. That was you, right? :)
gotta run… lib
oops… selise #21
I hear what Gitch and David are talking about from “sympathizers BUT … people to single payer” all the time. Oh no… we mustn’t try to change that far… we must do it in tinier increments. Obama told the country, C’mon… we are all going for BIG CHANGE!!!! We all said YES!!!!!!! WE CAN!!!!! If not why, when? RFK said ask “Why not?”… rather than: Why are things the way they are? Why not change them?
It IS a canard for protecting the toxic status quo!!!
http://www.informationclearing…..e23576.htm
The Ultimate Sign Of Our Lethargy By Bill Maher
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Sorry again, mod, will remember the 200 word rule. The money quote that got edited above (sorry I got greedy and appreciated so much of his humor) I hope I can paraphrase: Maher complained that the expletive deleted Baucus health care bill if it passed wouldn’t kick in for four years, and Maher estimated that during that time 175,000 people would die because they’re not covered, and three million would go bankrupt from hospital bills. And he lambasted both the Dems and Repubs for this.
Great share from wigwmam. We’re #37!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVgOl3cETb4
And people ridicule Blagojevich! Obama, Baucus, Pelosi, et al make him look like a Boy Scout!!
But does anyone here dare make the argument that we are a nation of honest, democratic souls who are being screwed by their crooked government? Not me. There’s an old saying that I used to wonder at, that “You can’t cheat an honest man.” I never understood that when I was a kid, but after trying to do politics in the US for almost 50 years, i do understand it. If you watch a 30 second TV blurb or two and that’s your entire attention to national affairs(including when you were in school, and not working a job), and then you vote, and say, in effect, “OK, I did my bit, now you go to Washington and represent me and my family’s interests and leave me alone now, ’cause I’m gonna watch the game, or my favorite sitcom”, you’re not honest, you’re kidding yourself, you’re not a grown-up, and you’re not a citizen of anything, you’re a cipher.
This is the lifestyle of ‘way too many so-called ‘Americans’
alice, so well said. I voted in the Dem. primary Tuesday before last in Manhattan. I am ashamed to say, I did not know much about the candidates I intended to vote for, except they were from the Working Family Dem Party. Further exploration was on my to do list but got procrastinated.
So I got to the election station school one hour before it closed and while there I asked a woman worker there how turn out was. There were not too many there at that time. She shrugged and said, “Well, you are #67!”
As I walked home I realized looking up at my building of 8 stories, that there were probably more people in my building right then … probably watching a Seinfeld rerun at that moment (… just to paint the picture as cynically as possible …) than had voted from an entire MANHATTAN voting district. That was stunning.
I mean, it is not like the constitution and civil rights and quality of life is circling the bowl in America, not like thousands and thousands of people are dying and have died from illegal, corporate-agenda wars, and corporations aren’t raping taxpayers of their money and bankrupting literally their lives.
Oh, well, yeah, that IS what is happening. Pete Seeger said, “Think globally, act locally.” Great advice. I am working so hard on single payer, but most of my friends not in cyber activism don’t know public option from single payer and are still in afterglow of an Obama who will take care of us all … etc. or are otherwise playing ostrich.
Alice, I was going to diary about this, but I wish you’d take your comment and build one!!!
Thanks for the kind words about my post. What do you mean by ‘diary’? (I’m not very familiar with this website.)
Post a Diary.
But you should probably read About The Seminal first just for basic guidance.
This is weird. I just ‘replied’ to your kind words about my post, and the post, and my reply, is stuck up above, then followed by all the posts after #13 over again down to the end!?
So, I’m repeating my reply: What do you mean by ‘diary’? I am not very familiar with this website.
I’ve had Nancy Pelosi lie right to my face, had ‘my’ Rep., her buddy George Miller, literally give me the ‘brush-off’, motioning with his hand like “shoo!”, and had his aide insult me. After advising me to go to a townhall meeting, I responded that I’d been at 3 of them that year already. She said, “I didn’t see you at any”. I’d asked questions at all three, and got some applause, too. I’ve visited other Congressional .offices also, and nothing I see is showing me that these people have any ideas that can help this country. I know many people are way ahead of these government hacks, but they’re not far enough ahead
I still call, demonstrate, and sign petitions, but I think nothing short of a national General Strike would move these guys. Of course that won’t happen, so we need much more grassroots organizing to reach “americans” and make them take responsibility for killing a million people for oil. We are just trapped in this happy bubble.
alice, thanks for such passionate sensibility. You are certainly walking the walk. Most of us, if we do cross over to that mode, move back fast to the talking end. Thanks for inspiration and keep sharing about your activism. looking forward to alice diary, too. :)