Israeli Soldiers Face Indictments for Looting Turkish Vessel |
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| By: markfromireland Thursday September 2, 2010 5:23 am | |
As I can testify from direct observation, members of the Israeli armed forces engaged in systematic and wholesale looting in Lebanon. I’m not even remotely surprised to learn that looted goods were "being traded within the IDF"
The investigators obtained information that the goods were being traded within the IDF and that some of the suspects include commanders tasked with guarding the ship while it was docked.
Read in full: Israeli soldiers face indictments for looting Turkish vessel
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Not even a glow worm unto the nations.
mfi
And not even a mention in any English-language media, aside from this.
Well of course not PW. Why on earth would American and European journalists and their editors engage in follow-up reporting? I’m shocked, shocked I tell you that you should even think for a moment that they should.
mfi
We Americans expect more from the BBC our media well I don’t have a tv anymore.
I wonder if it was the CPUID’s or a beacon in the chip that caught them?
One of the killers was busted for using a stolen credit card too, right after the slaughter.
Charming people to be sure. Upright, moral, … … ….
And with those looney rabbis urging killing of non-Jews, they have a completely free hand. The future looks pretty bleak for any who oppose them.
Nevertheless they must be opposed. The calculated whipping up of hysterical hatred that is going on is very ominous, it creates the atmosphere for in which war and war crimes can and will be justified as necessary for the survival of the state.
Yes, they must be opposed but I’m not sure how we do that since our gov’t seems to feel that Israel can do no wrong.
Somewhat easier to do that over here – the moves to boycott Israel are gathering pace. Israel is no longer considered sacrosanct, particularly not by the younger generation. Every time the Israeli government lashes out – Lebanon, Gaza, the attack on the flotilla, they do themselves a lot of damage.
As is the US Empire, the Israeli Empire continues to decay and kill itself.
It’s just a matter of time before it all collapses.
History shows it.
Good to hear of boycott efforts growing ‘over there’.
And a GREAT reference to the ‘younger generations’ just not buying the BS story anymore about it all.
Better informed, better connected . . . truth prevails. Slowly sometimes, but it generally prevails one way or another.
Thanks for all you share from behind the scenes ‘over there’.
ANN WRIGHT: “And going outside a boundary, going into international waters, I mean, what they are are pirates. They are pirates. They kidnap people, and they’re stealing stuff. They’ve probably stolen over a million dollars’ worth of cameras, computers, cell phones. I mean, I’m in Istanbul. We just got here early this morning. Some luggage is here. There’s not a thing in it. Everything has been taken. The Israeli military said, “Oh, yes, we have to count this. You know, we have to take it.” Well, what they’ve done, they’ve stolen it. And if we have any friends that are in Israel, I hope that they go down to the black market and see where our stuff is, because somebody is making a killing on this thing.”
Really outrageous. And Obama talks about nothing but the security of Israel. Phooey!
Here’s another story MFI that isn’t making the U.S. CMM:
“Lebanon issues warrant for suspected Israeli spy in Harari murder”
All the while the CMM wants to point at Hizbollah as the perpetuators.
“The high-profile detentions, including a high-ranking army officer, a Christian party member and telecommunications employees, have shocked Lebanon, showing how deeply Israel has potentially managed to infiltrate and compromise its security. ”
And even the ‘liberal’ Haaretz isn’t mentioning the theft from the Mavi Marmara passengers.
That’s when they’re not directly pointing at the Syrians or the Iranians.
Working out who (1) ordered an assassination, (2) who actually did it (on a contract basis), is one of the great Lebanese parlour games which every Lebanese plays with verve and enthusiasm.
That’s in addition to the disgraceful way in which that the UN investigative commission has behaved. They’ve muddied the waters to such an extent that if I wanted to I could claim that the assassination was ordered by the left wing extremist who goes under the name ubetchaiam and was carried out by his cousin Ronald McDonald masquerading as a falafel salesman. It would be at least as credible as what is likely to come out from the commission.
PS: That’s not to say that the Hizb aren’t eminently capable of assassinations, they are – it’s just that I don’t believe that either they or the Syrians did this particular one.
– Way too much to lose.
Aloha, mfi…! It’s par for the course for the IDF/IOF to routinely rob/steal from all the Palestinians too…! I’ve read numerous Ma’an/Memo etc… reports on it…!
Btw, what is the current sitrep on Hizb/Syria’s threat to the UN’s IC, that if any prominent leaders were indicted they’d launch another Lebanese civil war…?
Yes very much par for the course.
CTut if you’re asking me for a detailed response I can’t give it as the Hizb are hardly going to take me into their confidence. That being said I will note that they’re not in the habit of making idle threats. When they say they’ll do something then they do it. (Unless it’s made massively worth their while not to).
*heh* Your silence is deafening, Mi amigo…! ;-)
Armed punks in uniform.
Thanks, mfi.
In other news, Rachel Corrie trial to resume 5 Sep.
Always the case.
History.
US foray’s abroad, same thing, same as it ever was.
You served, you know first hand.
Most who serve end up on the peaceful side of reality I’ve heard.
Those that can cope, once service is done.
I greatly appreciate that you are with the peaceniks for the most part.
Hope I’ve said that over and over. To you, and any others. Who served.
Peace is usually the best option for all concerned.
War is usually waged for profits.
On we hope. Thanks for all your thoughts as you brang them and share them.
Yup it’s like taking a militia consisting entirely of Klansmen and officered entirely by Aryan Nation members and then expecting them to behave in a civilised manner in Nigeria, or in apartheid era South Africa, or in apartheid era Namibia come to that …
Sheesh, that’s quite the picture.
Ain’t it just? And no I’m not joking. From what I can see now and from my interactions with IDF officers and men during my UNIFIL days their officer corps is just as bad as their enlisted ranks.
Not good.
Oh, I know you’re not joking. I’ve long thought that the IDF was nothing more than the Stern Gang, Irun, and Haganah in uniform.
Btw, mfi, drop me an email, I’d really like your input on this recent article…
Hamas Back Out of Its Box…
*g*
The troops are losing their discipline this does not bode well for Israel. Every military commander in the world will be looking at the looting. Looking at the very necessary killing and seeing more lack of discipline.
Then they will look at the bad planning of the mission. Then at Israel’s last invasion to get terrorists in Lebanon.
There is a pattern of failure.
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Sorry unnecessary
Ah OK thx.
Talk about adequately meeting the complete definition of Piracy: the IDF took over a peaceful vessel in international waters, killed members of its crew, and stole its cargo.
Is there anything that distinguishes between what the IDF did and what Somali pirates do?
Not quite:
the IDF attacked and took over a peaceful vessel in international waters, killed some of its passengers, stole money from them and looted there possessions.
Precision is important it’s important because the set and sequence of events that I have given above is why the Turkish foreign minister described the attack as piracy. Far more importantly it’s why the independent investigating prosecutor is investigating charges of piracy, homicide, looting, and theft.
Happy International al-Quds Day, mfi…! ;-)
“Is there anything that distinguishes between what the IDF did and what Somali pirates do?”
Yes, there’s a big difference. The IDF’s piracy is state sponsored.
I was going to say, the label on the outside.
If it acts like a pirate, it ought to be called one. The IDF has been acting like pirates and thugs for years.
Yes and no. It was an sct of government. Which lays open all sorts of other possible sanctions – such as those for warcrimes for example.
But you raise an interesting scenario. Imagine a situation in which Blackwater mercenaries acting on behalf of the American government (or the Israeli government come to that) did this. Would they be able to claim sovereign immunity as privateers? This is the sort of thing that could quite quickly become a very expensive lawyers’ playground.