There is no other way to describe the machinations in DC today. The median Social Security benefit is $1229. The median net worth of retirees is about $160K, including home equity according to the 2010 Survey of Consumer Finances.
Any cut to the Social Security benefit is going to damage these average people seriously, and it’s worse for the people below the medians. But that isn’t the whole picture. The original idea behind Social Security was that it would be just of part of retirement, along with employer pensions and personal savings. As the graphic shows, the pension plan has gone the way of the Dodo.Now think for a moment about the people above that median. These are the people who saved money to fund their retirement, and have some assets. They get no interest income, thanks the to the Fed and its zero interest rate policy (ZIRP). There has been precious little income from savings for the last few years, and the Fed promises that there won’t be any in the foreseeable future. That means that people are being forced to eat up their savings, or to put it with the wolves of Wall Street.
We aren’t talking about pocket change, either. For people in the 75-90 percentile range, the mean net worth in 2010 was $525K, down from $616K in 2007. The mean value of financial assets held by this group was $233K, down from $254K in 2007. That isn’t all that much money to last 20 or thirty years. ZIRP means that savers get screwed. Bloomberg reports that ZIRP is helping the rich and screwing everyone else, quoting Joseph Stiglitz: “Monetary policy has been indirectly, surreptitiously helping the top and hurting the bottom.” It describes a semi-retired college librarian:
…when he first started an annuity in 2005, his interest rate was 5.25 percent. Now it’s 2 percent, he said. That means that instead of getting a monthly payout of $700, he gets $413.
In the face of the horrible damage inflicted on all segments of the population by the richest Americans, aided by an ideologically insane party and a spineless party, President Obama and the rest of the Washington Elite insist on slapping retirees with Social Security cuts via the Chained CPI, and cuts to Medicare and Medicaid, to go with the demand that they eat up their savings or reduce their standard of living.
There is no excuse for this vicious assault on the retirement plans of millions of Americans. And there is no other way to describe it. It is a horrible and mean-spirited attack on every American except a few hyper-rich people.




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Thanks for this masaccio. I had been looking for some time (sporadically) for the median SS figure but knew it couldn’t be too far off the average of $1,239 (as of November 2012). Our supposed leaders are either clueless to the extreme or they just do not give a flying fuck as to what this shit will mean to living breathing humans who don’t have the scratch to buy their own senators and congressmen
Today’s headline should have read: “Senator Reid blocks Obama’s and Republicans’ offers to cut seniors through a chained CPI.” Of course, the next 24 hrs could be a reversal for all of us who would be hurt by a chained cpi.
These are the talking points I want to hear all over the media, not the ones the uber rich put forth …….
SocSec + MediCare = earned benefits
15% tax rate on capital gains, dividends and hedge fund fees = entitlements
How hard hould the messaging be, Dems?
I’d like to see distributions (deciles might do) of retiree incomes and net widths. Any credible links to those data out there?
Th e missing link to the comment I made at 2.
Well, supporting a party that cuts your Social Security is better than supporting one of those — what did TBogg call them? — “vanity” parties…
No, wait…
Thanks for bringing this forward. It is a crime that it hasn’t been front and center since long before the election.
(I have been hit with it all. I made little on my private investments for the 10 years of low interest rates (worse now going forward of course) and then because of illness requiring I cash in most of it I lost half of what was there but not nearly as those nearing retirement are.) So here I am sitting on only SS and a very small annuity at half its normal value and a loan on all of my house that is accruing and compounding 5.5% interest that will come due within a year of my moving or dying. We know how property values are. So I can’t even afford to make a move to a place where I don’t have to clean the toilets or pay the home insurance and property taxes.
I am completely perplexed as to why more seniors have not been advocating for themselves or at least voting Democratic. Both camps GOP and Dem of my age peer group are massively passive. The Dems say they are certain Obama means well and would never actually cut SS unless the meanie GOP makes him. The GOPers deny they have a problem or have just trusted the garbage that the market is just what it is and what problems they have are nobody’s fault.
But many of us have been raped and pillaged and don’t know it. The system, including much of Obama care, is set up to continue to obscure the diminishing availability of food, shelter and health care for the average elderly. And it is just beginning.
The article at HuffPo seems to give full credit to the GOP for taking C-CPI off the table:
So, exactly what was Obama’s part in all of this?
How much does SS lose over say forty years with chained CPI? That would represent the decrease in starting pension forty years from now from what it would have been with the existing cola. Yes?
Obama apparently had nothing to do with it as far as I can see. In fact didn’t he just today say that was his plan?
That’s what I’ve always thought, but suddenly per the HuffPo story, the C-CPI was a Republican initiative, on which Obama reluctantly gave in, but which the GOP are now graciously withdrawing. Duh?
These guys never, ever quite give up on these ideas. Cut the benefit some way or give it all to Wall Street. For a time I thought AARP would always defend SS. Not so sure anymore. We need a very strong lobby. How do we get one?
You know I sometimes think we never really know the truth. We have to wait for someone to write the book. It could be just the personalities involved that played out.
From page 2 of the link:
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2012/12/fiscal-cliff-no-deal-as-final-hour-approaches-85587_Page2.html#ixzz2GaAw4FL8
Evidently Obama offered the chained cpi in the interview yesterday.
Per Bill Black a couple of days ago:
Masaccio, that graph you have is a good selling point for not cutting SS and, in fact, raising the benefit. Private pensions are dying out rapidly especially defined benefit ones. Also the more outsourcing, the fewer plans of all types.
Obama is bound and determined to pull off a last minute deal that sticks it to SS in this Lame Duck. How many millions did it cost taxpayers for AFOne to fly his butt back to D.C. from Hawaii? What a stunt. He should have just stayed in the WH.
Chained CPI was in Obama’s offer of last week. And, again today. And, today the GOP rejected it. I.e., the GOP defended entitlements against Obama. Imagine that!
Yes, we need to dump AARP and find a way to fund another organization. BTW Howard Dean is also an austerity nut. What is wrong with these people?
I’m not going to celebrate yet. Still too many gates to go through including the debt limit.
AARP has always been a corporate shill with a nice insurance business on the side. I have refused to join.
I strongly recommend that Bill Black article that I linked to at #16. He busts not only Norvelli and Howard Dean, but also Andy Stern (former head of SEIU) and The Guardian. And, he took no prisoners.
I’m thinking this deal fell apart– chained CPI for middle class tax cuts. The Rs probably won’t deal figuring they still got leverage for a better deal even in debt limit negotiations. So what are we willing to give to keep the middle class tax rates ?
You can hear Obama do this at 5 minutes and twenty seconds HERE.
I’ll take a look later. Black has been pretty intense on this grand betrayal. He especially seems to dislike the austerity bull shit.
Shit.
Here’s what happened: Obama put up SS cuts as part of a “grand bargain.” PERIOD. He wants cuts, and has said so.
GOP said “No bargain! TAXES!”
Obama said “Okay, no Grand Bargain. How about a minimum deal?… basic tax cut package and unemployment?”
GOP said “Give us those SS cuts or you won’t get even that much!”
Obama leans over and points at the script… happens that both Obama and the GOP are reading from the same script but the GOP flubbed a line.
GOP goes “Ooops… shouldn’t have said that right now… Never mind.”
Reid says “Don’t worry, SS cuts are very much still on the table for the Grand Bargain.”
In short: Obama needs something that can be called a “Grand Bargain” to cover his ass while he’s stabbing the rest of us in the back.
If he tries to push through his much-coveted cuts on such a minimalist GOP offer the lesser people might get just a bit ticked off.
Again, and straight from Reid’s mouth, SS cuts are still very much on the table.
And they will stay there.
I really can’t listen to him anymore. He is so ignorant about economics for a man in his position. Just ask wigwam. He may be a brilliant politician, but…… So I will read about what is going on now. Maybe later.
Thanks, Tom. So there we go. Per Obama, in his own words: “One of the proposals we made was [Chained CPI].” Obama offered in. The GOP rejected his offer. And now HuffPo is claiming that this was a GOP proposal that they are now withdrawing. FUCK OBAMABOTS!
Thanks. Good God, these guys are smarmy. And, Obama is the worst of them, because he’s the best at convincing well-meaning people that he’s not smarmy.
They are playing the long game. In Jane’s post we see that this started in 2009 or before.
Masaccio. Is there a graph showing the actual beneficiaries and their monthly benefits. I suspect that as a group all of the beneficiaries and their benefit amounts “clump” in a steep curve near that median amount.??????? Such a graph would put to rest the idea of SS as a grand amount, greater than the basic benefit it has always been.
Thanks.
When the airline industry took the pension money and pushed their employees into the federal government program that paid 30 cents on the dollar, it was a signal that retirement funds could be put in the pocket of the CEO’s and friends (Romney) and it would be ignored especially by the corporate media.
Didn’t there used to be an income effect that was analyzed along with all this chained cpi substituting? Slutsky-something? Of course, that might be a Russian name …
I suspect that it started in April 2006, when Obama was the keynote speaker at the opening of the Hamilton Project, co-founded by Robert Rubin and Peter Orszag and which turned out to be a government-in-waiting when Obama came to office.
Note that Robert Rubin and Pete Peterson are thick as thieves, serving on the boards of each other organizations and speaking at their events. Also that Rubin was the head of the economics part of Obama’s transition team, and staffed up with his disciples.
If SS were privatized into a “choose your own poison” plan, AARP is arguably one of the players in the FIRE sector which would be best positioned to capitalize on a once in a century opportunity. No doubt they will want to keep their cards close to their vest now and say nothing that might jeopardize their future access to retirement money streams of fabulous dimensions.
Another reason to boycott those bastards.
I haven’t seen anything
Obama put it on the table.
SS is already taxable when the benefit exceeds $32K/year for those filing joint.
I guess I’m well above the median as my benefit is over $2k/month. I’ve been retired since 2004. My wife draws based on 1/2 of my benefit as it yields a larger amount than that based on her earnings over the years. Still, the chained CPI has much in common with gravity.
notice no talk of any cuts to the war budget? notice no talk of ending coropate giveaways? BTW Dave could you talk tough with Obama? SS has nothing to do with the debt! But of course you know that!
I will be 60 in Feb and have been saving as much as I can for retirement but as with most of us (execpt members of Congress) I lost much of my retirement money in 08. Obama cares about Wall st and nothing else..he pretends to stand up for the average person but it is all talk.
I’m about halfway through Retirement Heist, by Ellen Schultz, investigative reporter for the Wall Street Journal. She tells story after story after story about how large corporations blew up employee pension plans to finance a variety of other projects ranging from mergers to mass layoffs to lavish benefits for company executives.
The bell tolled for (pun intended) Bell System employees as well as those working for a long list of other corporations. The same bell is about to toll for tens of millions of others–including us.
Is it any coincidence that these are the same people who are blocking any meaningful attempts to mitigate Climate change? If I didn’t know better I’d say They don’t want to spend / waste money on people they have no intention of helping adapt to what’s coming.
And none of them are in jail, either.
This is quite true. I cut a couple of paragraphs describing the theft of the pension plan of Hostess by the scumbag private equity clowns who wrecked the company and dumped the pension plan losses onto the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. to the tune of $85 million and counting.
Hey mas ,I certainly agree that this is a vicious assault,but I don’t believe it is mean-spirited ,since the entire G22 initiated the austerity consensus ,which was reaffirmed in Toronto,2010 .My point is not to defend the corporate-duopoly leadership by saying they are merely sociopaths ,not psychopaths ,but conveying austerity was deemed essential for realignment through which developed nations could ”compete ” with developing nations .It also said that banks posing a systemic threat could not be prevented from collapse without destroying financial innovation and freezing up requisite liquidity for essential capital allocations to sustain the global market order .To quote them : “We cannot be in the business of risk prevention ,only risk management .
Liberals can find a more genteel term and sanitized the reality of being clusterfucked ,but this is the most overt ,pugnacious class warfare in over a century ,because government is the enemy .As I comment ,some you-tube dude is saying a more ”muscular ‘attack on the safety net will visit us with the next austerity-driven crisis,as means testing ,age eligibility and chain return as debt bait that is thrown in the jaws of mass hysteria under the guise of sacrifices to save the republic .Let’s hope that Hillary can save us .Yeah ,yeah ,that’s the ticket for change we can believe in,and she’s better than the other choice dished out by our economic betters .
I’ve heard a couple of radio interview with Ellen. And yes raiding a pension system is such an old scam that Gary Trudeau has a April 1979 paperbsack entitled “But the Pension Fund was Just Sitting There,” wherein Uncle Duke attempts to rip off a pension fund. While the book was humourous and far fetched in its day, that day was pre-Reagan.
Its interesting that FDR was an old money Ivy League fellow, who championed the working class against the predations of his own class. By contrast, guys like Clinton and Obama come from poor bckgrounds, get into the League, and then become the henchmen for the Uberwelthy,mdestroying what FDR built. Price of admission to the upper elite, I guess.
You see, the owners of this country know the truth…
Here is a 3 minute clip of George Carlin at his prescient/scary best. http://youtu.be/i5dBZDSSky0
Do we want to raise income by taking from those who are freezing and hungry in the cold and dark and cannot afford to get sick, or get that income from those who have much more than they need……what would you do in your family…..I want us to present this in terms that reflect this choice….
…ummm…good point cassiodorus
Barack Obama was being protected/pushed by some here at FDL pre November 2012 who were not shy or ashamed about swaggering around while doing it here at FDL…so…but now? …
Some of these same ProObamaBrawlers and IMADEMBACKERNOMATTERWHAT types now are joining in on FDL comment threads about The Perils Of SS At The Hand Of Obama like it never happened and they were/have been against Obama from way back…political duplicity?…shameless hypocrisy? … wanting to be FDLGroupies who are “in” while doing politics based on which way the site politics vane is pointing as it suits when it suits?
Like a person cannot go back into FDL site/comments history or is unable to actually marshall a recall/memory of what some FDLers wrote then or were willing to be very aggressive about forcing on others here at FDL leading up to November 2012 and re-election of Barack Obama.
FDL comments history? Being able to recall/conduct memory? What? Some kind of Nixonian 18 Minute Event now takes place and it becomes erased?
Sheesh…
Thank you masaccio for putting this MyFDLDiary up about SS. The numbers really do tell this story and the story is this is not where/what part of USian society /commonwealth American Aristocrats,the USG and this Dem Run Obama WH regime should be looting and pillaging. But who expects Barack Obama to actually do anything other than abuse 90%/99% USians of the pittance that SS may present as we boomers wade into our 60′s and 70′s?
Barack Obama derailed MediCareForAll back in 2009 and as this ObamaDontCare ACA junk comes into focus many USians will be finding out the tilt and slant that ACA comes with will be steep if not just plain deadly for those unable to avoid the $$ slips,slides and sideway falls.
O/D/TBoggBots?…Pushed to put ObamaBush back into the WH until 2016.
Shameless. All dressed up in Hypocrisy.
“The Dems say they are certain Obama means well” as they slather on the IOKIYAAD…
My credentials are intact. I’ve been dissing Obama ever since the FISA betrayal of 2008, which predates the point at which Jane Hamsher stopped cutting him slack.
That said, I welcome all new converts who have finally seen the light.
What totally pisses me off are the Obamabots at HuffPo who pretended today that Chained-CPI was a GOP initiative on the same day that Obama took CREDIT for it on Meet the Press. That is fucking outrageous.
These Obamabots simply cannot come to grips with the fact the Saint Barack is a fucking asshole. They’ve looks into his eyes and have seen that “his heart is in the right place.” Sort of like GWB looked into Putin’s soul and all.
At some point the Oligarchy will no longer need these
politicianscrappy actors to convince us that all is well in the Republic. All we need is a good dose of austerity.–Naomi Wolf
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/21/coming-drone-attack-america
–Naomi Wolf
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coordinated-crackdown-occupy
Even including Social Security in the negotiations was a Hate Crime against senior and the children who depend on them. These cuts will no doubt kill people.
Those of us already on Social Security know that for the first time in history, SS recipients got NO cost-of-living increase in President Obama’s first two appropriations. That too was a Hate Crime.
correct…..shameless evil
One of my objections to putting the CPI chained deal on the table (Thank you so much, Mr Obama!) is that seniors have already taken a much larger and more serious hit. By ensuring that those of us born in the 1950′s have to wait till we are 67, we face some 12 percent or more a year loss on our retirement earnings should we have to retire at the age of 65.
The news media is to busy bewailing the millionares losing their tax rate cuts to even mention any of this.
Anyone in the DC area who would like to work with me on doing this? I have a cool name in mind, but have little idea about going about starting it.
BTW, a possible ally might be the real T Party. The Head of the T party (non-crazy branch) was on UP Sat saying the corporate taxes should go up, not individual rates. I think they all should go up, but don’t think I disagree that corporate taxes should be first. The (non-crazy, economic focused)T Party seemed to be focused on big Gov spending, but I think maybe they are getting clued in to the fact that
it is really big MONEY (aka corporate money) that is the problem.
Not sure where they are on earned benefits, but I bet a bunch of their grass – roots rely on them, so it would be hard for them to primary folks who stand up for them.
I always thought there wasa natural affinity of the T Party with the true liberal agenda (corporate corruption and corporate/government collusion is costing the middle class) until it was hi-jacked by Dick Armey and other astro-turfers and went the crazy racist route in its protests.
Like I’ve been saying, “no more plutocrat wanna-bes with Daddy issues”. Give me aKennedy or a Rockefeller who knows how mendacious his co-horts are and doesn’t idolize affluence.
I had not heard of this book but it seems well worth a read. Thank You!
I have often tried to tell people that there was a “real T Party” and that it got hijacked. That group of people understood the absurdity of the Federal Reserve, and also understood that Corporate Welfare is no longer beneficial for Americans.
Glad to find a fellow human who understands this. There was a real reason why Ron Paul was marginalized.
I can’t make out from your writing if you think the G22 is a good thing. It’s not. In Fact, it is not even Constitutional for our elected officials to meet in secret with foreign officials to decide American Banking policies.
And as far as Hillary doing anything, she might be sidelined for a long time with her health problems.
True, that. Wish the Paul’s weren’t so nutty on the women’s health issues. Rand Paul was the key sponsor of one of the “sunshine” amendments to FISA the other day. Almost enough to make one overlook the rest…
The T Party Head Chick (name escapes) was visibly frustrated that their agenda had been co-opted by the right wing crazies. My main concern is that they seem to be wedded to the deficit hawk nonsense, saying things like “we are spending beyond our means” which I take as code for earned benefit reductions.
But they don’t seem completely co-opted by the Peterson crowd,and may yet be teachable, as the Washington reality begins to encrouch on their previous world-view (“poor people are bankrupting us!”).