Mint the Coin has drawn a whole lot of fevered discussion, but Joe Wiesenthal (@theStalwart) has perhaps the best take: the project opens the door to a real discussion of money, its origins and its purposes. The idea of just minting a coin with a huge designated value does sound strange to those of us whose economics came out of Paul Samuelson’s textbook. Here’s a possible explanation* for the discomfort. And if you think it sounds strange, just think how it sounds to the Ron Pauls of the world.
In my economics class all those years ago, I was taught that money originated in barter societies. This view came from Adam Smith in Wealth of Nations. David Graeber* says that in Smith’s world, which sounds like an American Indian tribe, money arises from barter. One guy makes bows and arrows, another tents. Some use the bows and arrows to hunt down game. In Smith’s world, the bow guy trades for meat and tents, the tent guy trades for meat and bows and arrows, and hunters trade for tents and bows and arrows. Obviously not everyone needs a tent on the same schedule as bows and arrows, so they create money. It’s a great way to solve the complex problems created by barter.
Graeber points out that this bizarre society assumes that women aren’t taking part in any of these transactions, which is absurd, because most likely the clothes and probably the tents are made by the women. Smith might not have known it, but at the time he was writing,
… Lewis Henry Morgan’s descriptions of the Six Nations of the Iroquois, among others, were widely published — and they made clear that the main economic institution among the Iroquois nations were longhouses where most goods were stockpiled and then allocated by women’s councils, and no one ever traded arrowheads for slabs of meat. Economists simply ignored this information. Stanley Jevons, for example, who in 1871 wrote what has come to be considered the classic book on the origins of money, took his examples straight from Smith, with Indians swapping venison for elk and beaver hides, and made no use of actual descriptions of Indian life that made it clear that Smith had simply made this up.
Debt, p. 29, footnote omitted. Smith’s view is that people are driven by a truck and barter mentality.
What, he begins, is the basis of economic life, properly speaking? It is “a certain propensity in human nature . . . the propensity to truck, barter, and exchange one thing for another. ” Animals don’t do this. “Nobody,” Smith observes, “ever saw a dog make a fair and deliberate exchange of one bone for another with another dog. ” But humans, if left to their own devices, will inevitably begin swapping and comparing things. This is just what humans do. Even logic and conversation are really just forms of trading, and as in all things, humans will always try to seek their own best advantage, to seek the greatest profit they can from the exchange.
Debt, p. 25. If you stop to think about it, this is laughably simple-minded view of humans. Graeber points out that people engage in all kinds of transactions outside of simple truck and barter, ranging from acquiring wives to temple contributions. In fact, no one has ever seen or reported on a society based on truck and barter, and no one has ever seen a society in which money arose to simplify barter.
Graeber explains the relevance of these points. He says Adam Smith had an agenda. He wanted to set up economics as a separate area of study, amenable to scientific inquiry and theorizing:
Above all, he objected to the notion that money was a creation of government. In this, Smith was the intellectual heir of the Liberal tradition of philosophers like John Locke, who had argued that government begins in the need to protect private property and operated best when it tried to limit itself to that function. Smith expanded on the argument, insisting that property, money and markets not only existed before political institutions but were the very foundation of human society. It followed that insofar as government should play any role in monetary affairs, it should limit itself to guaranteeing the soundness of the currency. It was only by making such an argument that he could insist that economics is itself a field of human inquiry with its own principles and laws –that is, as distinct from, say ethics or politics.
Graeber didn’t set out to write a history of money, but rather a history of debt, trying to explain why people say that it’s immoral not to repay debt. Funny how that immorality runs to the benefit of the feral rich, the rentier class. Smith’s story, and the goals Graeber attributes to it do too. Maybe we should formulate a new foundation for Jonathan Haidt: things that benefit the feral rich are highly moral, and things that benefit the rest of us are immoral.
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* This discussion is largely based on David Graeber’s monumental anthropological exploration, Debt: The First 5000 Years. We were lucky enough to have L. Randall Wray and Bill Black on our Book Salon last Saturday, discussing Wray’s somewhat imposing book, Modern Money Theory: A Primer on Macroeconomics for Sovereign Monetary Systems. Of course, we at FDL have been exposed to the issues for some time, thanks to Letsgetitdone and others.
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Thanks. Rec’d. I hope to contributed a comment later.
Excellent, comrade. Must read Debt.
Smith’s professional agenda was conveniently useful to the bourgeois. Does Graeber explain this?
And, yes, Haidt likes to portray conservatism as a rational morality for tribes. Kinda blank on morality’s co-evolution with power or did I miss something?
I forgot the MMT angle. Kinda hard to sell the idea that money is worth something cause the government’s willing to take it from you. I understand their logic but don’t believe them on inflation, the responsibility to mint given to a government owned by capitalists, and especially their diagnosis of the situation. ‘Course, they’re bankrupt capitalists who can’t thoroughly address the crisis.
So, good luck selling this idea to comprador capitalists and their masters. And really, they’re not jamming their propaganda out to foster a broad discussion.
Don’t get your hopes up, pwoggies.
Did we decide whose face to put on the coin??????
How about Alexander Hale on the obverse and Rosa Parks on the reverse?
Double headed coin, good trick.
This all so much bullshit to Keep Things As They Are, with those on top always on top and those on the bottom always on the bottom.
Mt. Rushmore style on the front: Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman, Ronald Reagan, Alan Greenspan.
On the back the quote: “You know, Paul, Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter.”
What’s really funny here is that Josh Barro, whose piece on the Platinum Coin Option spooked a Republican congressman into writing legislation (which has no hope of passing, by the way) designed to make this impossible, was mainly interested in the PCO as leverage for Obama to use against Boehner: In Barro’s mind, Obama should promise not to go platinum if Boehner promised not to hold the debt ceiling hostage ever again. But it’s obviously gone far beyond that now.
Yeah, a distraction. Comrade masaccio did manage to turn it back to something of substance. Mostly.
Gotta give Cheney his due!
Hacks have no shame.
John Locke the intellectual defender of slavery and Adam Smith religious zealot of self interest. These are the founders of “economic philosophy” and yet we wonder how capitalism is such a rapacious system on humans and the earth.
Of course, debt and credit are head and tail of the same coin. I highly recommend the short 1.5-page posting “Money as Credit” by William F. Hummel.
“… in Smith’s world, which sounds like an American Indian tribe,…”
The great irony here is that American Indian Tribes did not recognize “property” in any Western European sense.
Currently the $2T of treasuries held by the Fed count toward the debt limit. Last time, both Dean Baker and Ron Paul suggested that the Fed simply destroy them and the Treasury remove them from the books. I seriously doubt that that would be legal; it certainly violated some fundamental principle of accounting.
I had suggested using a platinum coin to buy them from the Fed, but obviously the GOP would not allow that expense to be appropriated.
What someone recently suggested is depositing a trillion-dollar coin into the Treasury’s General Account at the Fed and then having the Fed sell a trillion-dollars worth of their inventory of the treasuries that they are sitting on. The overall effect on the private sector would be identical to what would happen if the Treasury had sold them directly. Thus, no increase in the likelihood of inflation.
William F. Hummel:
Career: US Navy radar officer – World War II, Pacific theatre. Forty-three years in aerospace engineering, guided missiles and spacecraft, mostly with Hughes Aircraft Co, El Segundo, CA. Chief scientist of Control Systems Laboratory. Design of flight control systems for missiles, first soft landing on moon, orbiting solar observatory, Venus and Mars spacecraft, several geo-synchronous communications satellites. Retired in 1990.
Interests: Understanding money and credit, Post-Keynesian economics, Investing long term, Classical music – piano and string ensembles, Internet discussion groups, Travel – Europe and California, Poetry – meter and rhyme, Gardening in containers, Sports – soccer, Cosmology – the Big Bang, black holes, quasars, and all the rest. Dogs – Labrador Retrievers and American Eskimos
Shite. Give it a rest wigwam. You counterpose his tripe (I read it) to Graeber’s research?
“In my economics class all those years ago,…”
I took one of those many years ago. What I recall is a clear distinction between coinage minted from prescious metal and paper money. A gold or silver coin had a value based on weight, regardless of any denomination inscribed upon it.
What was far more interesting was the creation and valuation of paper money.
Great read. Hopefully this will spur discussion about money and how we use it in a democratic, market-based economy.
I am a little concerned, though, that much of the liberal punditry on this is more of the blue team cheer leading mentality rather than actually analyzing the problem.
The great question of political economy of our time is not austerity vs. stimulus – the total amount of federal spending is roughly ‘about right’.
Rather, the challenge we face is one of distribution. Inequality itself has reached such egregious levels that it is rendering the social fabric unstable. That’s what seems to be missing from people pushing coin seigniorage as a solution to deflation and austerity. The solution is not ‘more’ money – it’s dealing with how the money is spent.
O no, much deeper than that. The challenge we face is a fundamental conflict in human nature. The fraud of communication for self-aggrandizement.
The killer’s kill their own humanity.
Who is/was Alexander Hale?
Where do you get your information? This is just not true. ALL the African tribes behaved in this manner when the Europeans were exploring Africa.
Some had even evolved a for of money based on cowrie shells.
The Botswana San people were bartering in the ’70s as their culture then had no use for money.
Exactly my read as well. Essentially, money = credit = debt = IOUs. It’s just a mental construct for the idea of how we relate the values of unrelated things and try to equate/transport that value over time. Value is in the things themselves (wealth/assets/capital/whatever).
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Coach Bill – FYI, there are two different issues there. The difference between paper money as it used in a fiat system (in other words, when not convertible to a fixed amount of a metal) and coins whose metal content exceeds the government stamp is as you describe.
But there is a second component called seigniorage, which is when the government inscription exceeds the metal value. In those situations, a metallic coin is effectively the same as a paper note, because once someone has paid the seigniorage ‘tax’, if you will, there is no way to recoup it by melting down the coin. This is why a bank will gladly give you change in dimes minted in 2000 but will refuse to give you change in dimes minted in 1950. The 1950 ones are valued on their metal content, while the 2000 ones still represent significant seigniorage and thus are treated as fiat money just like their paper siblings. This is where some of the fun around the penny and nickel has started bubbling to the surface because I believe the government now spends more money making pennies and nickels than they are worth.
Graeber makes the argument that barter economies exist when money economies fail. And documents how Europeans arrriving on the scene would never know at the time (the history was outside Europe) that there had once been a money economy there.
Cowrie shells are not an evolutionary step in the development of money. They are money where they are used for trade.
Was what the San were doing actually barter relations? Was there actual negotiated exchange in the Smithian sense, or was something similar to the Iroqouis allocation of goods going on? Something to consider. And if they had no use for money, that meant that they had had extensive contact with money societies and were not impressed.
The law making the platinum coin illegal must be include a clause eliminating the debt ceiling entirely. It’s a legal fiction, invented by absurdists and celebrated lately by anarchists. It’s not a real thing.
If you’ve spent the money, you gotta pay the bills. Putting a hold on your bill-paying, by setting the bills in a pile on your desk, is one thing. Announcing to those you owe money to that the bills won’t ever be paid is something else entirely.
It’s called being a deadbeat. And there should exist no legal mechanisms for default.
Whether you destroy that debt or not in any consolidation of the government’s accounts it disappears, as if those bonds did not exist. In fact so do any bonds held by a trust fund. A corporation that held its own stock would not consider that amount outstanding. And, in fact, stock held in treasury can be destroyed. But then who knows why our government does things the way they do. There must be a law, I suppose.
Shite. Is this a left wing blog or not?
The debt ceiling is just merely stoopid.
Governments can and have defaulted on their debts. But that arises from some rather serious circumstance like when the country pegged its money to another currency or had debt payable in a foreign currency or a war that destroyed all the productive capacity.
The US has as close to a zero possibility of not being able to pay its debts as one can imagine—except for a self imposed limit like that stoopid debt limit law. That law should be repealed.
Whatever do you mean?
Are you proposing even more pain and suffering for the working classes and poor, the pain that will come from a worldwide downturn should the US not pay its bills, or pay them in scrip?
The law should have two parts: one part that makes illegal the platinum coin, and another part that eliminates the debt ceiling. Both are ludicrous, but are two sides (if you’ll pardon the pun) of the same coin.
The money’s been spent, the services accepted, the goods delivered: now pay the bills. How simple is that, really?
The debt limit law is surely foolish and should be repealed. I am not sure what harm the platinum coin law does and why it should be repealed. It seems pretty harmless. And who knows when some dysfunctional congress wants to do another debt law.
Cuts both ways comrade. Debt is not absolute.
Don’t you know by now where I’m coming from?
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Stop the name calling.
Should we also then make copper, silver, and gold coinage and seignorage illegal too? What is it about platinum that makes it “icky”?
As I understand it, he is not proposing it, he is saying that it is inevitable because the system collapse of its own contradictions.
Comrade, I’m thinking he is referring to government not private folk.
Deal.
Yes, but you gotta look at the creditor side, too. Lots of that money invested in ¡AMERKA! is corporate loot. Those contracts definitely warrant “cancellation”.
Has everyone “forgot” about that? Hmmm?
No. See #39. Moreover, Marx wouldn’t be warning about that today. He’d be warning you about the new crapitalist transformation.
Give me a little more credit, comrade.
Illegal debt is still illegal. And in the private economy there is bankruptcy.
Sorry, are you evading the point? Ya know the banks aren’t supposed to traffic in drug money either.
And HeyZeus! A lot of the national debt is now due to downright fraud. HELLLOOOOOOOOOOOO! Y’all want to be tight-ass debt collectors now?
IT’S THE CRAPITALISTS DONE FUCKED THEIR OWN SYSTEM UP!
Lenin help me.
The San were then hunter gatherers. They could use what they could carry.
Nomadic Hunter Gatherers at that point. No village, no fixed abode.
I assure you I am not trying to evade. I think I missed your point. If you are saying the bailouts caused the debt though, they did not. But…..
Whoops, mental slip. I meant Nathan Hale. “I regret that I have but one life to give for my Country” was the image I had in mind.
What do you think caused “the debt”?
Excessive military spending?
Excessive safety net spending?
Excessive tax cuts for the very wealthy, as well as “loopholes” and so on and so forth?
Excessive Congressional perfidity?
Excessive bailout … oh wait, you say that the multi-trillion bailouts didn’t “cause” the “debt” … so what, rather specifically do you think, bluedot12, DID cause the “debt” that the political class is prescribing “austerity” for the many to “rectify”?
Might it be the end-game failure of the system, itself, just possibly? Might it be unfettered greed aligned with limitless power, at empire’s end?
DW
Excellent, thought-provoking post, masaccio, as always, thank you.
Recommended, of course.
DW
From Graeber’s book, page 29:
COMRADE! Tarp not part of the national debt?
And pray tell, what impacts do those massive Fed Reserve bailouts have on the national debt? Banks got Z monay and you got Z debt. Hmmm.
Y’all need more fire in the belly. Been abused so long ya can’t see straight.
Damn.
Love it!
Nonetheless, I am correct that you are not proposing it.
The end-game failure, comrade? Oh no, comrade, these poor saps you see here’s being EXPLOITED in the crapitalist’s end game. No failure. They is being powdered to fire CRAPITALISM TRANSFORMED.
The system done growed ‘em and the system’s gonna eat’um alive. Cannibal Mother of Gawd!
Sakes alive, comrade! Ya think they’d go down screamin’.
Yes, thank you for that, comrade.
The Fed Reserve bailouts had zero effect on the national government debt. TARP is a different matter. The Federal Reserve created the money out of thin air so that the banks could pay off loans that would prevent the invocation of risk contracts that would have required more money created out of thin air to satisfy. The banks will have to pay back the Fed at some point. It wasn’t real until it got made real through bonuses to executives and dividends to shareholders. Until that point, it was just accounting conventions. What the banks did to extort the money was very real. The Z debt in question is the credit card interest rates that folks will be paying in perpetuity while the banks lend out zero-percent Fed money on a continuing basis from the multiple episodes of “quantitative easing”.
You gotta watch where the card is palmed, comrade.
Methinks capitalism,from beginning to end, from top to bottom, is premised upon exploitation, upon enforced deceit which claims that human “nature” is vile, grasping, avaricious, and destructive … Thereby excusing, justifying, and making “noble” the destruction of the masters.
Just at the moment when the masters are crowing about their success at creating the “sucker class”, the essential destruction of planet home and civil society, despite the brutal tyranny the masters have planned, the colossal weight of capitalism’s “excess”, even as it weighs on the many, will wreak the final havoc on the smug, “insulated” elite … it is only a matter of time, Ludwig.
The clever and “astute” are, sooner than they may possibly imagine, about to taste unmitigated failure, even as the many will suffer misery and despair …
That is the “failure” … possibly to be followed by extinction …
Perhaps not.
However, it will not be capitalism or today’s high and mighty elite which or who will engineer whatever more sane future humankind MIGHT manage.
That will have to rise from the wreckage, from the ruins, from the conscience and humanity that might remain.
DW
Actually the bailouts are not part of the debt. The fed just created the money and gave it to them. I think all of it has been paid back. But then I could be wrong. There may be some smaller part not paid yet.
Yes, but the point I made was the banks are holding the cash (to secure their fictional value) and the government has a national debt (I think about half of which is owed the Fed). Y’all like to play by the rulez but SHITE haven’t you dupes learned that these fraudsters don’t? What do you think might happen with that imbalance of assets?
Re TARP:
So TARP is a real debt, whatever that # is now. ‘Course we know they did their best to hide the major damage at the Fed.
Then there’s the fraud of housing prices and stock values and “securities” and commodity speculation, good Lawd, you need a degree to keep up with it (unless you just enjoy fraud theater).
Oh, and your Z debt and other commercial frauds built into this grinding debt death machine.
Shite, ya wanna play games with me, comrade?
Don’cha wanna KNOW, comrade?
I thinks you are wrong.
The national debt is the total of all the deficits —- spending in excess of revenue. It can also be looked at as the net financial assets of the private economy including what we imported. A big part of it was shoot up literally in all the fucking wars.
Sure, but there ain’t shit I can do about it. What I am really pissed about is the trillions given to help those bastards out and they can’t do a fucking thing about homeowners, the unemployed, fuck the list goes on. And now they want to cut SS bc they can’t pay the fucking debt? Gimme a break. By the way Randy Wray says we actually gave these guys 29 trillion. And some of that money went overseas. I would love to get a trillion dollar loan at a quarter of one percent for a year.
Matt Taibbi has a great article up about the bailouts. (Tbogg has a link to it.) he uses a bailout of seven trillion which Is on the low end of how much was given them.
Twenty-nine trillion dollars.
Tell me, bluedot12, how much do you imagine that every war the USA has been involved in, from the Revolutionary War onwards and ALL the social programs, including the GI Bill, and ALL the infrastructure that the USA has “invested” in has “cost”?
In round numbers.
Have you any idea?
DW
I don’t know but it won’t come close. Then again what we spent on wars is just gone. That bailout money has been paid back.
You can google bank bailout cost and find the 29 trillion reference to Randy Wray on CNBC and the net cost to the taxpayers.
I like your stylez, comrade Bartoo. However, we don’t see eye to eye on two of these here points. This fucking people-eater is engineered. Gawd knows when these monsters’ apocalypse is gonna come. Shite, Karl would be horrified at their subversion, might even die of regret for given the fuckers toolz.
Look around you, comrade. The despair, the devastation, the dumb these !@^^%$ have wrought. Do you doubt they’ll make paste out of people if the think they must?
Some fucking consolation, their eventual self-inflicted demise. I don’t think Karl would think much of your karmic stance, either.
YOUSE PEOPLE AND YOUR KIDS ARE GOING TO BE CONSUMED. They will make you pay as long as they can. Will you renounce their faith just before the maw gets you? Their culture is a crime against nature. At least fucking denounce (I am speaking beyond you, comrade Bartoo).
Now, on to your humanity rising out of the wreckage. I don’t go for that bullshite, comrade. So much lost in war. And the story of the crime of war, it too is lost. How can you learn how to avoid the next doom if you let the last one happen? No. Certainly, their system has polluted human souls but you argue that only destruction will allow the sane to reign? I am fundamentally opposed to that position. It may come down to that but that will not be my presupposition.
I take no comfort in their self-extinction.
Nope, just want to smoke out a fuller explication of your argument so that folks understand that you do have one. And one that deserves consideration.
You don’t get it comrade. They can’t do a fucking thing cause that’s where there gains come from!
That’s their system. It ain’t fucking hypocrisy. THEY EAT PEOPLE.
Did you find it?
Do you believe that smack, comrade? Say, when they went rootin around to find their missing stash, where do you think they found it? And don’t you know they had to steal someone else’s in their rush? And had to create more fictional value?
And get this comrade. These fuckers base an assets’ fictional value on its future returns – it’s rent. So if some asshole corp suddenly, in disaster mode, got leeway to practice bidness in a formerly illegal way, or got into a formerly illegal bidness, or got to supply war criminals, their fictional value suddenly gets erect.
So how much of that 29T came back because the assholes were unleashed to do something they couldn’t have done pre-crisis.
Why do you believe a fucking thing these scheisters say?
Yes, I did. The dance of the seven layers of fraud to the tune of 50 ways to fleece the sucker.
The point I was making was that the $100 T overhang that was used to scare people was fictional until people believed that the underlying asset would default. The Fed loans thus coverted around $1.6 trillion from fictional to real. But to shore up the fictional balance sheets to pay off that $1.6 T back to the Fed, those financial institutions continued to keep high interest rates on the rest of us (and that is real, not fictional). And paid TARP funds, which were government debt loaned out to the institutions, out to their executives as bonuses and their stockholders as dividends on their totally fictional “earnings”.
We pay out through taxes and out through interest, not to mention the lost income from lost jobs, pay cuts, and other employer scams. I understand your point.
Yes, the destruction of rational behavior, of considered and conscious existence IS deliberately and intentionally engineered, Ludwig.
And yes, many, likely VERY many, will DIE.
Nonetheless, however many human beings the MOTU destroy, they are still the minority. They will have their minions, their compradors, as you properly call them … yet they are pathology, they are unable to understand some very basic truths, they are vulnerable to their own madness. They are extreme excess. They cannot understand the concept of enough, and that is being daily revealed.
How many will die, how long will it take?
You guess is as good as mine, and you will be around longer than I, so you will, very likely, experience the end times of the masters and their capital games …
The question is how shall understanding be encouraged in the many?
Will words suffice?
That is doubtful.
Will experience, will living through the end of American empire and the final excess of capitalism suffice?
Likely so.
What is the “margin” for opportunity of error on the side of wisdom?
Ah, that, my wise friend, is the larger human question.
And planet home is not amused.
DW
So, when is an IOU money? IMHO, it has to be:
* denominated in some monetary unit
* transferable
* tenderable, i.e., redeemable in forgiveness of debt in the same unit.
The dollar, for example, is a transferable tax credit:
* it’s denominated in the unit known as the U.S. dollar
* it’s transferable
* it’s legal tender for all dollar-denominated debts, both public and private, most specifically U.S. taxes.
Thanks for the reply and clarification.
Do you mean that seriously? (I think you’re just giving Teddy a hard time?)
FYI, the difference between the government’s minting of coins with metals like gold, silver, copper, and nickel and the Platinum Coin Solution is very important: for those coins (penny, nickel, gold eagle, silver eagle, etc.), the value of the metals themselves constitute the majority of the cost.
However, for a high face value platinum coin, seigniorage comprises virtually the entire cost. That is a world of difference – that’s why it has to be PCS, not GCS or something else. Or to say it differently, if the US Mint released a one ounce American Platinum Eagle and charged a ridiculously high markup of $2,500, it wouldn’t pay but for a few seconds of GWOT. It has to give it a fiat value with a lot more zeroes to be worth anything in terms of funding federal corporate welfare cash flow needs.
P.S., back when the average citizen could read laws in a reasonable amount of time :)
If anyone’s curious, this is why it has to be platinum rather than gold or silver. The gold bullion coin act of 1985 does allow the minting of coins by the Executive branch (in fact, it requires it), but it does not allow significant seigniorage to be added into the value. In fact, the stamped fiat value on a one ounce gold eagle ($50) is less than the sales price!
http://www.usmint.gov/pressroom/legislation/Public_Law_99-185.pdf [opens PDF]
There’s no room there to add the zeroes sufficient for debt monetization via seigniorage.
Well said!
In fact, in the case of high-value platinum coins the seigniorage ratio is even higher than for paper money.
I was just curious as to what Teddy Partridge was objecting to in the the platinum coin. I suspected that is was two things that my daughter objected to–the denomination and the metal. Just not your normal world of nickels, dimes, and quarters, even allowing for goldbug coins like the eagle and commemorative strikings.
That seignorage ratio puts an upper bound on hyperinflation though, doesn’t it. The Fed could suck out the money by selling the coin. If there were a platinum-bug buyer.