Across Tripoli, revolutionaries have perched themselves on a dangerous dream. Author Khaled Darwish reflected in a recent New York Times dispatch from the capital’s battered streets:
I heard that Al Sarim Street was full of the bodies of the dead, including women and children who had fallen to snipers’ bullets and were left in the street because no one dared approach. … A few days ago, we were almost killed by one of these snipers who shot at us and then sped off. I found myself prostrate, then crawling until my glasses broke. This is how Colonel Qaddafi wants us to be: crawling. But no more: We have grown wings.
But elsewhere in the city, thousands have been languishing indefinitely in makeshift prisons, captives of a rebel government still grasping to establish control. Masses of dark-skinned people, many of them African migrant workers, have evidently been rounded up on vague suspicions of working as pro-Qaddafi mercenaries. Their bleak captivity, despite their protestations of innocence, suggest that even at a moment of supposed national liberation, some remain trapped in an oppressive past.
The new Libya now straddles these two contrasting scenes, its freedom struggle ruptured by infighting and pressure from foreign forces that have their own designs for the country’s future. Yet viewed from a wide angle, the revolution has cracked open a window for a new political vision, spanning the full spectrum of peril and promise that Libyans have long been denied.
Hijacking a Revolution?
Some tout Libya’s revolt as a vindication of what has been called President Obama’s strategy of “leading from behind.” To others, though, Libya’s armed uprising breaks ominously from the narrative of the Arab Spring—the ideal of youth-led, largely secular and nonviolent pro-democracy movements. Rightfully skeptical of the pretext of “responsibility to protect,” critics on the left are wary that oil-hungry Western powers simply want to replace Qaddafi’s reign with another government friendly to their interests. (Not long ago, the dictator was apparently a trusted ally in War on Terror, doling out brutality in partnership with Washington.)
The debate rages on about whether the emergent transitional authority will institute democracy, return to a non-democratic regime or just plunge the fractious country into all-out civil war. But amid the chaos, it’s clear that many, many Libyans want to see some kind of systemic change, though the trajectory of change will be steered by volatile internal and external struggles.
In an interview with the Real News Network’s Paul Jay, Hamid Dabashi, a Columbia University Islamic cultural scholar and ardent critic of U.S. foreign policy, took a nuanced view of Libya’s precarious future, distinguishing between enabling empire and supporting revolution:
Dabashi: The democratic uprising began before the U.N. resolution. NATO, U.S. and [the] U.N. resolution, they are riding on a democratic uprising of Libya. So we have to keep in mind that the initial site of this democratic uprising is perfectly legitimate, and the fact that the United States, NATO are using this situation to create a military foothold for themselves should not detract from the fundamental fact of the Libyan revolutionary uprising.
Paul Jay: When you say “not detract,” what does that mean? I mean people outside either have to oppose or support the NATO intervention, don’t they?
Dabashi: Well, in a very simple compound sentence, you support a democratic uprising and you oppose the NATO intervention.
Yet that simple sentence has complex inflections in the emergent post-Qaddafi Libya: already we see evidence of atrocities committed on both sides of the vicious battle, a resurgence of violent racism against black Africans, mysteriously looted munitions warehouses, and clashes within a fragile coalition of factions ranging from pro-democracy dissidents to Islamists to aggrieved tribal fighters.
It’s not a huge imaginative leap to compare Libya with a litany of other questionable NATO- and U.S.-led humanitarian interventions: the most disturbing recent examples are massive violence and instability in Iraq and Afghanistan, and in the pre-9/11 era, Kosovo in the Balkans. John Feffer, an analyst with the D.C.-based think tank Institute for Policy Studies, told Colorlines that in a geopolitical arena that offers no good choices:
One could argue that the alternatives are even worse, as in the case of Rwanda when there was no military intervention…. So we’re basically comparing bad situations and worse situations, or in some cases worse situations and worse situations. But nevertheless, humanitarian intervention has not racked up a particularly successful track record.
But Feffer added that “it is possible that the Libyan scenario will prove to be one of the better cases,” if indigenous forces and organizations can move quickly to empower civil society and shift international support toward reconstruction.
Commentator Dan Hind sketched out a best-case scenario in which Libya protects itself from foreign manipulation by drawing on solidarity from regional pro-democracy allies:
Those of us outside Libya who wish the country well cannot do very much, but we can do something. We can pay attention. The democrats who brought down Ben Ali and Mubarak can offer solidarity and advice. Iraq’s oil workers have learned valuable lessons about the tactics of the Western powers in their brave campaign to protect their country’s assets from a foreign takeover. The demonstrators in Europe and the United States can weaken the forces of unaccountable power in their own countries by supporting democracy and natural justice in Libya.
Guarding a Movement
So the war to oust Gaddafi may well have been partially co-opted by outside agendas—and activists are right to be cynical about the U.S. and Europe’s selective military involvement in popular uprisings. But the spirit of the rebellion itself hasn’t yet been stolen, and at least some Libyans have proven their willingness to defend it at all costs. Yes, the idea of a NATO-backed revolution sullies the hope for autonomous grassroots movements taking flight. But if the core of the revolution manages to survive the mess, academic and social critic Mahmood Mamdani contends that other dictators in the region will find themselves on much shakier ground:
Whereas the fall of Mubarak and Ben Ali directed our attention to internal social forces, the fall of Gaddafi has brought a new equation to the forefront: the connection between internal opposition and external governments. Even if those who cheer focus on the former and those who mourn are preoccupied with the latter, none can deny that the change in Tripoli would have been unlikely without a confluence of external intervention and internal revolt.
Foreign humanitarian interventions, particularly those that serve as a smokescreen for neo-imperialism, can never substitute for popular resistance—and indeed, often militate against it. As the country works to heal from war and generations of oppression, the survival of the Libyan revolution’s roots—spawned in a real indigenous movement for justice—will depend on whether activists have the strength to defend it on the ground level. Navigating that terrain means rediscovering the core of the struggle across the region. It’s the realization that genuine mass movements can’t be contained from the inside nor from the outside, neither by dictators nor by Washington’s post-9/11 military and economic hegemony.
However flawed the mechanics of Libya’s revolution have proven so far, the engine of people power can still relaunch itself. And now that the rebellion has moved past the old regime, it’s time for another hollow empire to get out of the way.




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I would say they deserve time to work on things and make improvements. I also think that given that Gaddhafy was paying black mercenaries to kill Libyan rebels, it’s understandable they are worried about the black migrants, whether they are just workers or in fact, ex-mercenaries. If they jail people without charges for a long time then they should be criticized.
I believe the US Military, Intelligence, and Industrial Complex (MIIC; note the addition of the sprawling intelligence network), will do everything it can to shape the outcome of the revolution so that Libya becomes a captured state subservient to the oil companies.
Money and weapons talk. Anyone who gets in the way will be assassinated.
Yet there are ways to pit the Great Powers against each other in ways that leave breathing room for the smaller states. Nehru and Tito did this masterfully, playing Russia and China and the US off of each other while remaining non-aligned.
First of all, I am not so sure that the revolution has “moved beyond the old regime”
Libya: Continued killings and Gaddafi is still missing, yet David Cameron and Sarkozy declare “mission accomplished.” Sounds vaguely familiar doesn’t it?
Gaddafi is powerless, at least that is what David Cameron and Sarkozy tell us. Still the killing in Libya continues. The people increasingly doing the killing are National Transitional Council forces, together with NATO, as they attack Bani Walid and other Gaddafi strongholds.
Cameron and Sarkozy keep their pieholes shut about that part, though, don’t they?
In the meantime, I can’t help but wonder if Waldo Missing Gaddafi will not somehow be fashioned into the missing boogyman to replace Osama bin Laden.
P.S. John Laughland [even though he is one of those "dumb" conservatives that some on FDL rail against and also one that I don't often agree with] was quoted on the Internet in regard to the situation in Libya as saying: “To paraphrase George Orwell in ‘Animal Farm,’ some civilians are more equal than others.” From what I read on various international media sources, I think that is EXACTLY the situation that we have at the moment in Libya.
Liked the apt title Michelle Chen chose for this FDL Diary.
In view of what the so called “western powers” — the old Great Colonial Powers Great Britain,France and USA using the post WW2 label they gave themselves to counter Wicked Eastern Communism — let take place in Bahrain,Palestine or Ubekistan while this Libyan Freedom Revolution was covertly/overtly “helped” along by these very same powers and “presence makers” staying skeptical about what this Libyan Freedom Explosion was about seems in order.
Those who were demanding humanitarian intervention,R2P and saying the USA must get involved in Libyan internal affairs seemed very forgetful of what USA did to Iraq or is still doing to Iraq.
Evidently POTUS Barack Obama(DINO) is able to do what D Party partisans would rip Bush and Cheney up and down and all around for doing. The stench of this naked D Party partisanship seen even here at FDL for awhile with some being insistent about/for R2P! and Humanitarian Intervention! and Do NFZ Over Libya Now!
So who did what to who post March 2003 in Iraq does not matter?
The USA — Home of the Good Guys — must create a “presence” over and in Libya these R2P Partisans,Western Jingoists and Christian Compassion and Mercy Missionaries Demanded!
The deeper gag here being the CIA already very likely having done “presence” in Libya to foment/ferment this so called Libyan Revolution against Gadaffi.
I agree with Masoninblue’s above comment at 9/17 6:46 AM about money and weapons holding much sway over post Gadaffi ruled Libya.
In addition to money and weapons swaying who will now run or be the Hidden or Seen DoorKeepers for Libyan oil,water, monetary regime hegemony and military basing SOFAs? Iraq was not about any of these right? Iraq was about Iraqis being “free” and having Benefits of American Occupation bestowed on Iraq/Iraqis.Right? Right.Facts and record suggest otherwise but who cares about facts and record of USA conduct? Barack Obama sure as hell does not. No Looking Back on Obama’s Watch in WH at Bush,Cheney or the wayward ways of American Imperialism fully demonstrated on Iraq,Afghanistan and Pakistan for resisting WashingtonDC Hegemony.
Libya is now indeed in a precarious position. Who brought about the Shock and Awe that created this precariousness? Any undisclosed motives involved? Any unseen players handiwork?
In light of what befell Iraq after Attack Iraq by USA by the so called “good guys” label the Americans assign themselves when doing American corporatism and militarism or now “natoism” Libya has a long way to travel to New Peaceful/Happy Libya.
Gadaffi has not yet been found in a spiderhole yet either.
WashingtonDC used NATO as a Mask to suggest WashingtonDC was not involved in taking Gadaffi out but to believe this to be so requires not seeing lots of readily viewable connections between WashingtonDC and NATO and who comprises much of what NATO is and can do only with explicit WashingtonDC permission/participation.
Too bad the Palestinians seemingly do not qualify for a NATO imposed NFZ or for NATO “protection” which entails high multiples of air strikes against Palestine’s oppressor Israel. Oh wait — the Good Guy Americans intend to derail Palestinian UN effort to gain statehood. Or do Libyan Freedom Fighters qualify for American/NATO “help” but Palestinians/Gazans do not? Bahrainis do not? Ubekistanis do not? Where is all the ongoing hoopla about R2P! Humanitarianism! for Palestine,Bahrain and Ubekistan?
D Party partisans and Obamabot/Obamapologist contingents have fallen short since Jan.20,2009 for letting Obama gloss over and implicitly approve what TelAviv did to the Gazans in late 2008.
For D Party hacks/Obama cultists letting Obama do what Bush and Cheney did without heavy political prices being imposed on Obama. Whats the word that describes this sort of conduct? Hypocrisy.
The mockery of D Party partisan political hypocrisy will be exposed when POTUS Romney(R) keeps doing what Obama(DINO) now is doing as POTUS but Mitt is crucified for doing so.
What is the difference here? R can’t but DINO can?
Corporatist/Militarist/Wall Street Abettor Obama(DINO) can.
Corporatist/Militarist/Wall Street Abettor Romney(R) can not.
Better partisans that engage on Principle — not BS — please.
How many innocent lives did NATO save by bombing the shit out of Libya?
Is this a good enough victory for Sarkozy to run for reelection on?
According to interviews on antiwar.com (think it might have been Philip Giradli, but not sure), Libya is a Sarkozy “plan.” A Libya expat whispered in his ear (analogue to Chalabi), Sark thought he could get a quick victory to run for reelection on a war high, and Libya will be in France’s sphere of influence in the neocolonialism.
Great Post, I could not have stated it any better. You hit every key point and issue. It is amazing how short the American people attention span is. I remember how the left was going ape shit about Iraq, yet no one seem to mind that thousands of innocent people are being killed in Libya. A country that not only did not attack us but was apparently working with the United States in it so called war on terror. If I was a foreign country it is no way that I would trust the United States, Britain or France.
Precarious is a good word – for other interests than the Libyans, as well as the Libyans.
No matter the prevailing side within Libya, there will be a cultural Islamic constant; that of “speaking truth to power.”
In either case of, Qadaffi maintains power or Qadaffi goes away, the result is the same; the culture will demand that a challenge to Western so-called “Liberation” powers is correct, which indeed it is from their point of view.
You must be a idiot or a racist or both. How do you know that it is a given that Ghadafi was paying black mercenaries to kill Libyan rebels. Oh, this must have been something you heard on CNN, BBC, or Al Jazeera, the three news stations that are the primary propaganda mouth peices for the west. CNN and BBC was and still are the news organizations that were claiming that Ghadafi forces were killing civilians, yet now that Ghadafi has been overthrown you would still think he was killing civilians if you listen to these stations. Al Jazeera is stationed in Qatar, a small Sunni country that also happens to be one of the only Arab countries to provide weapons to the so called rebels. It is all Bullshit. There are black lybians and there are black north Africans, yet somehow your racist ass seem to think that it is a given that they are killing civilians. Unbelievable! I have been observing this so called Arab spring from the start and the countries like Egypt and Tunisa were for real but then the west figured out how to coopt them and sure enough nothing has changed. This entire thing was a big setup. All you have to do is watch what is going on in Syria right now and you can clearly see that the United States, France and Great Britain are trying to do through the United Nations what they couldn’t do with their spies.
I think you are correct just like I also believe he had something to do with the way they went after that guy from Paris who was in charge of the IMF.
The TNG is engaging in NATO sponsored race war and ethnic cleansing. The black town of Tawergha, near Misrata, no longer exists. One third of Libya is black, and black Libyans and black migrants are being slaughtered. From the Black Agenda Report, Glen Ford writes in NATO’s Glorious Race War in Libya:
Sarkozy pushed hardest for the attack on Libya. As Horace Campbell points out in Global NATO and the recolonization of Africa (http://pambazuka.org/en/category/features/76300)
In Asia Times (http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MI17Ak02.html) Pepe Escobar describes:
And from NATO’s war on Libya is an attack on African development, http://pambazuka.org/en/category/features/76284
We should probably know by now it is not possible to bomb a country into democaracy.
oops, a correction, TNG at the beginning above should be TNC, and democaracy should be democracy at the end
Was the TNC promising equality? I must have missed that.
Laughland is more than dumb.
Mullahs have a history of being co-opted. Would be more sanguine about their anti-colonial potential.
Oh well as long as the good guys get the oil I’m not sure what the problem is?
pure snark and it’s good to see that some drop by anti-war.
Excellent corrective. The probable truth doesn’t get addressed when one is only suspicious of “humanitarian intervention”.
“genuine mass movements can’t be contained from the inside nor from the outside” That’s supposed to be comforting but instead is dubious.
All you good-hearted children need to read up on the late stage and aftermath of the American Revolution and post-Civil War rampages.
Interesting post Michele Chen, and so are the comments, as usual.
But it’s still a neocon apology with faith based reasoning that ignores, or perhaps is unaware of actual history.
If only we could stop using arguments like this:
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Using the Arabs of Benghazi, to pull them into the GCC, is almost a natural to work on the subjugation of the entire African continent.
I think your criticisms of Feffer and Mamdani’s comparisons with previous interventions are valid. Though is it neoliberal apologia to say the revolution’s troubled state isn’t a reason to write off Libyan society altogether as hopeless. I appreciate the range of comments this piece has evoked, and the skepticism and fear are duly noted in the piece and in my reading of your reactions. That’s also why this analysis isn’t a validation of interventionism or the neoliberal disasters it has ushered in. Perhaps I’m overly optimistic in my assessment that there is a real contingent of very angry people in Libya who want change but aren’t neoliberal puppets. My emphasis was on different perspectives on how Libyans themselves might stave off calamity and prevent a full hijacking of the country in its protean current state.
Why yes, it is based on news reports. That’s where people go there, talk with people there, gather information and report on what they believe is going on. I have read these other versions of what’s going on, such as at Global Research, and they are lacking in any references, interviews, anything that suggests it’s something more than just somebody sounding off.
Probably quite a few.
I wouldn’t listen to anybody who thinks Glen Ford and his ilk are good sources.
Great post, again, I cannot agree more with such an informed analysis. Most Americans especially black Americans don’t know anything about what Ghadafi was trying to do for the continent of Africa. If they did they wouldn’t be so quick to support their half-black half white president. It is unbelievable how in such modern times that the world just sits back and allows this type of fake military action to take place. Nato is killing civilians left and right and the very group that created the NTC who no one seems to no where they came from has now stated that they are the only one who will determined if the Nato mission ends. Effectively granting Sarkozy and co to continue killing and taking property. Two way to take someone property is by natural disaster and Warrrrrrrrrrr, and there has been a lot of war in the Africa lately.
Ghadafi stated it in the very beginning, our country will turn into a version of Iraq. This was actually a perfect plan by the colonist nations with the help of their subservience half brother Barack Obama, the total enslavement of a continent. Has anyone besides me noticed that the United Nations led by the U.S., France and Britain passed their resolution specifically barring mercenaries (code for black Africans) because they suspected that Ghadafi would use the rest of Africa to help him retake Libya. Yet if anyone pays closer attention the people working for Nato which conveniently doesn’t include any African countries there is no other nations supporting this operation. My question is why isn’t there more inquiries coming from the media. I would like for all individuals reading these posts to pay particular attention to how news organizations such as CNN is going head or heels trying to instigate a conflict in Syria. Pay close attention to how so called news casters are calling foreign dignitaries liars on live television. How they are reporting something as fact on tv yet then they issue a disclaimer stating that they are not there to physically verify the information. (CNN is Regime State Television financed by the U.S. government and its Jewish owners.)
The black mercenaries theme has been used by the corporate press as part of the cover for their dereliction in covering the slaughter of black Libyans and black migrant students and workers. In addition, those that escaped Libya by boat were left to die of thirst or drown in the Mediterranean by the same Europeans who were so eager to protect the honorary “white” Libyans in Benghazi. http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/aug2011/nato-a13.shtml
Cameron and Sarkozy, for their photop in Benghazi:
http://humanrightsinvestigations.org/2011/09/16/cameron-and-sarkozy-in-benghazi/
R2P is strictly the Right 2 Plunder, it has nothing to do with protection.
@banderson2 and @shekissesfrogs, I appreciate what you have said.
@ Michelle Chen, I don’t think you have understood Mamdani’s arguments very well. I have read his books, and try to read whatever I can find that he has written. I would suggest you go back and read more carefully, the quote you provide has far more context. I appreciate the good intentions, but this post reads to me very like McSweeney’s: Create Your Own Thomas Friedman Op-Ed Column. http://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/create-your-own-thomas-friedman-op-ed-column
South Africa can be seen as a model as to what is happening now with the “Arab Spring”. If the ones in charge of an oppressive system know that “change” is-a-comming (inevitable) their standardize text book next move is to get ahead of that change, own it and steer it in a direction most favorable to their interest.
The above comment was made by yours truly at Chen’s other post concerning South Africa (I thought it might apply here as well).
One thing that seems to stick in my mind is Mike Huckabee’s very public and very racist comments about Obama “seeing colonialism through Non-European eyes (Mau Mau Rebellion)”, implying that the “colored guy” could not be counted on when the “re-colonization of places like Libya starts. Obama being the “Global Uncle Tom” that he is fell for this crap hook line and sinker!
Not to belabor this, but the earlier commenter took Mamdani’s comment as a springboard for the counter-neoimperialist argument. Whereas I had intended it specifically to provide a wider context of ongoing anticolonial and internal struggles on the continent. So just for extra context to the piece cited (which ends: “those interested in keeping external intervention at bay need to concentrate their attention and energies on internal reform”), here is Mamdani speaking on DN! last week: http://www.democracynow.org/seo/2011/9/14/mahmood_mamdani_on_libya_an_african