No way a leghumper would pick ” Only Shallow”… “Loomer” maybe.
And everyone knows the best song ever made is Zep’s version of When the Levee breaks
“Again, I don’t recall any “national debate” about whether or not this program, and the crimes in office on which it apparently depends, was a good idea in a self-governing democracy. The only reason we’re having one now is that Edward Snowden, guest of the Kremlin, forced it on a country that’s forgotten a great deal about itself.”
1. The trolling comment was clearly a joke. As you can see, I engaged GWPDA in honest debate as she is someone I respect.
2. I do not represent Eschaton.
3. Good God, get a life.
Is there a credible movement to constrain the NSA or any other government agency along the lines desired by Snowden or Greenwald? Is there even one bill proposed by any member of Congress that has a snowball’s chance in hell of passage?
In fact, there are 4 bills that I know of so far:
Zero content; Check! Fifth grade snark; Check! Basically adding nothing but childish quips to a serious discussion. Congratulations.
One other thing we can be certain of: Snowden is actively driving government policy. Something you and nobody else here, TBogg included, can claim.
Let me help.
That linked article was published in the Bush era. Most people assumed, mistakenly perhaps, that those practices was gone now, much like torture, the defunding of TIA after 3 years and the demise of the Carnivorous program.
But you still haven’t answered the important question: What is different now? Why is this issue suddenly conspicuous at all levels of government and media?
And nothing happened.
You’re halfway there now….
All you need to do is solve for what is different now.
So sans Snowden actions this would be on the public’s, media’s, White House’s and Congress’s radar?
Really? What the hell did they do to you in Iowa???
absent Snowden, whatever his features or bugs, we wouldn’t be having this debate.
Exactly. The only controvertible point that matters here.
Yet some remain only interested in converting pantlegs to tattered scraps.
And what you have failed to explain is how the Snowden affair fits anything other than the whistleblower explanation… He leaves a high paying cush job with a smoking hot pole dancer knowing he’s going to be on the run for????
Fame? Really? That’s all you got?
And regarding your claim that “everyone-knew-this-all-along-and-this-is-news-to-no-one”: Bullshit. A vanishingly small subset of political junkies may have suspected it, however, “suspecting” is not “knowing”. Now we know.
And if rapidly shifting polls, damage control in the White House and ongoing investigations in Congress attest, Snowden has made this a front and center policy issue. He has exposed these policies to the masses as promised. To be honest, I don’t know if I would have the nutsack to ditch the money and pole dancer to save our mother Clusterfuckistan. Maybe you’re simply too far gone to understand that now.
The revelation of XKeyscore has proven one thing: Administration officials were either woefully uninformed or flat-out lying. Nether is acceptable.
Well… I guess it also proves Obot leg-humpers can hump to nearly any tune. Which I guess is something.
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Proof positive that Snowden isn’t driving policy at the White House, Congress, or creating wild swings in public opinion polls.. NOT A WHISTLEBLOWER! Not happening. !!! Shuddup, shaddup, shaddup!
I have great respect for you, and that is why your stance here truly saddens me.
You are smart. Certainly much smarter than this.
So when I win my point
WOW. Self-insulating delusion. My work here is done.
And once again and perpetually… the topic is off the rails.
ANYTHING BUT THE MESSAGE; exhibit:”278″.
Can Snowden be trusted??!?!? Attaturks commenters!!! Putin! Bolivia!!!
TBogg is doing nothing of the sort. He’s protecting an heavy investment in hero worship.
And this may be a bit nuanced for some, but disagreeing with a particular policy does not equate with “hatred”.
All these NSA leg-humpers want to talk about is the messenger, screw the message.
Anything but the message!