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Charles Pierce commented on the blog post FDL Book Salon Welcomes Thomas Frank, Pity the Billionaire: The Hard Times Swindle and the Unlikely Comeback of the Right
Bye all. It’s bee a lot of fun. I love my trips to the ‘Lake. Stay well.
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Charles Pierce commented on the blog post FDL Book Salon Welcomes Thomas Frank, Pity the Billionaire: The Hard Times Swindle and the Unlikely Comeback of the Right
Van Hollen said it was “a factor,” Celinda Lake is simply doing a CYA for future business. Coakley could have come out for single-payer, Finland-style health-care and nobody would have known it because she…didn’t…campaign.
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Charles Pierce commented on the blog post FDL Book Salon Welcomes Thomas Frank, Pity the Billionaire: The Hard Times Swindle and the Unlikely Comeback of the Right
Tom –Since we’re heading for home here, can you expand a little on your notion that the “middle class” may have been a transitory period in our history and our politics? Is it because politicians abandoned the concept or because we’ve decided, in a hundred ways, that we don’t need/deserve to have one?
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Charles Pierce commented on the blog post FDL Book Salon Welcomes Thomas Frank, Pity the Billionaire: The Hard Times Swindle and the Unlikely Comeback of the Right
To what purpose is he “deliberately trying to destroy this nation”? What’s he gonna get out of it? I mean, this is the stuff I hear from the Birchers. Yoicks.
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Charles Pierce commented on the blog post FDL Book Salon Welcomes Thomas Frank, Pity the Billionaire: The Hard Times Swindle and the Unlikely Comeback of the Right
Marcy Kaptur once told me that what happened was that people in my business became “overprofessionalized” and lost touch with the middle class. I think that applies to Democratic politicians, too. Which is a long way around to agreeing with Mauimom.
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Charles Pierce commented on the blog post FDL Book Salon Welcomes Thomas Frank, Pity the Billionaire: The Hard Times Swindle and the Unlikely Comeback of the Right
My reasonable answer is that I choose to live under Barack Obama, and his dishwatery Democratic policies, than under a theocrat like Santorum, or a pliable cyborg like Romney. Jesus, these people are out there seriously talking about nullification. There is a difference.
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Charles Pierce commented on the blog post FDL Book Salon Welcomes Thomas Frank, Pity the Billionaire: The Hard Times Swindle and the Unlikely Comeback of the Right
That’s what I think, too. Tom. Democrats are terrified to have “populism” attached to them because, in their historical context, it means “radical” economic policies– Oh, noes! — whereas the R’s just take the racism and hatred of The Other from it and run away with it.
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Charles Pierce commented on the blog post FDL Book Salon Welcomes Thomas Frank, Pity the Billionaire: The Hard Times Swindle and the Unlikely Comeback of the Right
If you can honestly look at the GOP primary performance and ask that question, I can’t help you.
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Charles Pierce commented on the blog post FDL Book Salon Welcomes Thomas Frank, Pity the Billionaire: The Hard Times Swindle and the Unlikely Comeback of the Right
Tom — Most misused/misunderstood word today — “socialism” or “populism”?
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Charles Pierce commented on the blog post FDL Book Salon Welcomes Thomas Frank, Pity the Billionaire: The Hard Times Swindle and the Unlikely Comeback of the Right
You have to have lived through the Coakley non-campaign to know how wrong that is.
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Charles Pierce commented on the blog post FDL Book Salon Welcomes Thomas Frank, Pity the Billionaire: The Hard Times Swindle and the Unlikely Comeback of the Right
OK, so I wish you luck with President Santorum.
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Charles Pierce commented on the blog post FDL Book Salon Welcomes Thomas Frank, Pity the Billionaire: The Hard Times Swindle and the Unlikely Comeback of the Right
It’s Woodstock!
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Charles Pierce commented on the blog post FDL Book Salon Welcomes Thomas Frank, Pity the Billionaire: The Hard Times Swindle and the Unlikely Comeback of the Right
Simply? Because the opposition party is obviously demented.
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Charles Pierce commented on the blog post FDL Book Salon Welcomes Thomas Frank, Pity the Billionaire: The Hard Times Swindle and the Unlikely Comeback of the Right
Point B gets you the basket +1, Stewart,
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Charles Pierce commented on the blog post FDL Book Salon Welcomes Thomas Frank, Pity the Billionaire: The Hard Times Swindle and the Unlikely Comeback of the Right
Tom –
Is the Tea Party out of gas as a movement now? Beck has virtually disappeared as a presence. (He’s saying “We’re all Catholics now.” That’s just what we Papists need.) Their pols have sort of folded themselves into the establishment. The wildness seems to be gone. Catching their breath, or genuinely tapped out? -
Charles Pierce commented on the blog post FDL Book Salon Welcomes Thomas Frank, Pity the Billionaire: The Hard Times Swindle and the Unlikely Comeback of the Right
I wouldn’t call that “anti-progressive,” per se. Both FDR and LBJ flirted with similar notions. The idea that the government has to balance its books like a family, which the president does say too much, is simpleminded and wrong.
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Charles Pierce commented on the blog post FDL Book Salon Welcomes Thomas Frank, Pity the Billionaire: The Hard Times Swindle and the Unlikely Comeback of the Right
In 1932, in Columbus, FDR said the following at a campaign stop:
“It was the heyday of promoters, sloganeers, mushroom millionaires, opportunists, adventurers of all kinds. In this mad whirl was launched Mr. Hoover’s campaign. Perhaps foreseeing it, a shrewd man from New England, while in the cool detachment of the Dakota hills, on a narrow slip of paper wrote the historic words, “I do not choose to run.”
I’m sorry, but you simply can’t find anything like this in the speeches the president gave in 2008. (More’s the pity.) This notion that he promised you an FDR and then faked you out simply doesn’t hold up.
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Charles Pierce commented on the blog post FDL Book Salon Welcomes Thomas Frank, Pity the Billionaire: The Hard Times Swindle and the Unlikely Comeback of the Right
I don’t think he was “outrageously anti-progressive.” Lily Ledbetter is not outrageously anti-progressive. The auto bailout is not outrageously anti-progressive. Even the health-care bill, while flawed, is not outrageously anti-progressive. (We love our ObamaRomneycare here in very blue Massachusetts.) I think, and I wrote this in Esquire in 2008, he mistook the country’s hunger for justice for a desire for healing. He may never recover from that. But an awful lot of D’s got pissed and sat out 2010. He didn’t deserve that, either.
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Charles Pierce commented on the blog post FDL Book Salon Welcomes Thomas Frank, Pity the Billionaire: The Hard Times Swindle and the Unlikely Comeback of the Right
Absolutely do not agree. If he’d gotten a gigantic stimulus package through, unemployment (maybe) is in the 7′s and the Republicans still control the House, because their margins were a bunch of D’s in R districts who got elected in 2006 and 2008, and who wouldn’t have run on the stimulus anyway.
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Charles Pierce commented on the blog post FDL Book Salon Welcomes Thomas Frank, Pity the Billionaire: The Hard Times Swindle and the Unlikely Comeback of the Right
I’ve been doing this, in one place or another, and from sports to politics and back again, and I can tell you that the deadweight of “objectivity” is the worst fcking thing that ever happened to journalism.
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