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  • ChePasa commented on the diary post Day #9 of 11: #ThisStopsToday and Oakland #UmbrellaMarch by wendydavis.

    2014-12-19 11:38:41View | Delete

    Re: (R)evolution:

    another wee one

    Oh yeah, I have nothing but admiration and respect for the young folk saying “no more of this shit, fuck the police.” They are being heard. It’s getting through the blank stares and bovine indifference of the High and the Mighty as well as the Rabble. Change is coming. Not fast [...]

  • ChePasa commented on the diary post Day #9 of 11: #ThisStopsToday and Oakland #UmbrellaMarch by wendydavis.

    2014-12-19 07:44:35View | Delete

    Agreed.

  • ChePasa commented on the diary post Day #9 of 11: #ThisStopsToday and Oakland #UmbrellaMarch by wendydavis.

    2014-12-19 07:23:07View | Delete

    Is this Teh Revolution? I don’t know, but my sense is “not yet.” Occupy was an Awakening. “Another World Is Possible.” The current Movement is a Revolt Against Injustice and the Arbitrary Race-Based Imposition of Authority. “Black Lives Matter.” Neither truly threatened/s Power. Not yet. But Power seems to be backing off openly suppressing this [...]

  • ChePasa commented on the diary post Day #9 of 11: #ThisStopsToday and Oakland #UmbrellaMarch by wendydavis.

    2014-12-19 04:38:42View | Delete

    I don’t do Twitter either and many of the re-posts of Twit stuff here and elsewhere are simply incomprehensible to me, so it may take me a while to catch up on the real-time events that are being Tweeted. After all, I’m not as spry as I used to be, and I’m not physically able [...]

  • ChePasa commented on the diary post Live: BlacKOut Collective has shut down the Oakland Police Department by wendydavis.

    2014-12-17 10:23:23View | Delete

    The difference between these actions and the deteriorating situation at OO is startling. To me, what’s happening now is what a lot of us hoped could and would happen during Occupy, but realistically there wasn’t time to form the kinds of lasting bonds and mutual respect, let alone to learn all the dynamics and processes [...]

  • ChePasa commented on the diary post Live: BlacKOut Collective has shut down the Oakland Police Department by wendydavis.

    2014-12-17 09:57:08View | Delete

    To clarify, I thought the adoption of “Black Lives Matter” as this year’s Chanukah theme was superb and necessary. I didn’t see the picture of Jews and Muslims marching together under the same banner until this morning, but when I did, I thought it was extraordinary. There’s something happening here… Where I have yet to see [...]

  • ChePasa commented on the diary post Live: BlacKOut Collective has shut down the Oakland Police Department by wendydavis.

    2014-12-17 08:57:42View | Delete

    Oh my great god(ess), that was extraordinary, HFC, an exquisite and real description of what it was like to be there for that very special action. The reverberations are incalculable. There are many passages that struck me, but this one stood out — at least on my first read through:

    no what i mean is in [...]

  • True enough, re: the difference between Amy Goodman’s 2007 persona and her current one.

    Amy was trying to pack a great deal into the segment with McCoy, and it was a bit overwhelming. If she sticks with the issue, however, she’ll likely do an hour’s episode with McCoy, since he seems to have the greatest depth of information on the topic of the CIA and torture of anyone I’ve seen so far, at least of anyone who isn’t trying to lie and brazen his/her way out of a war crimes charge.

    The question I have is whether the issue will fade from the public eye. I don’t know. Public ambivalence is one thing, but the moral argument is stronger in my view, and justice will come.

    If our institutions will not will not prosecute and cannot raise their voices against torture in all cases, then the people will have to do it themselves. I think the people will do that when they see how close the torturers are to them. The current rebellion against police violence, murder and impunity is part of the necessary public awakening.

    Domestic police have been utilizing torture tactics to extract — often false — confessions for generations, and those practices among others are directly related to the torture regime instituted and celebrated by Cheney-Bush and continued through subterfuge by Obama. The connection is pretty straightforward and was recognized when the Abu Ghraib abuse, torture and murder activities became known. Now the focus is more on the connection between military/CIA/private sector psychologists and their participation in designing and implementing the torture program — but that is also directly related to domestic policing practices, as military psychologists — one in particular — have been fundamental in establishing the police culture of impunity, no matter how horrible their actions.

    The public’s growing and insistent demands for an end to police violence and murder can — and I hope will — lead to a similar outcry against torture as they are so closely related.

  • ChePasa commented on the diary post Live: BlacKOut Collective has shut down the Oakland Police Department by wendydavis.

    2014-12-16 18:54:54View | Delete

    Eh?

    Not intentionally snotty, that’s for sure. But if you’re seeing it that way, I’ll wish you a pleasant night.

  • ChePasa commented on the diary post Live: BlacKOut Collective has shut down the Oakland Police Department by wendydavis.

    2014-12-16 18:40:50View | Delete

    Are you thinking of Guardian Angels by any chance? Of course, they were always closely aligned with the police, and that wouldn’t work so well now. Also, there are areas — I’m thinking of the Northeast Heights and North Valley in Albuquerque — where the police are thought of very highly indeed and their (former?) [...]

  • ChePasa commented on the diary post Live: BlacKOut Collective has shut down the Oakland Police Department by wendydavis.

    2014-12-16 18:31:51View | Delete

    Then there are all the attorneys staging die ins , and all the medical students and practitioners staging die ins , and there are still students walking out of schools, and when congressional staffers and DC city staff walked out , I figured there would be too much pressure on lawmakers to do something to curb killer cops for them to resist. [...]

  • I saw McCoy on Democracy Now! today. Wondered where he got his information — as he seemed to be thoroughly familiar with the inner workings of the CIA and its history of torture, some of which is in the public record to be sure, but a lot of what he was talking about appeared to be deepest cover secret. Therefore, how would he know? Not saying he’s wrong, I’m just curious.

    Next time I’m at the bookstore, I’ll be sure to check for his book.

    My sense is that if anyone winds up in court on torture charges, it will be somebody like Mitchell — who apparently has said he did in fact participate in waterboarding of several prisoners. In other words, he has confessed to committing war crimes and crimes against humanity. If he should be inclined to travel abroad, I wouldn’t be surprised if he is arrested and taken to The Hague for trial. Somehow, I doubt he would be rescued by Special Forces…

    People like Cheney, Bush, Obama, etc. may see the inside of a courtroom when they are too decrepit to resist any more much like Pinochet and others.

    Justice may be slow — but it will come one way or another.

  • ChePasa commented on the diary post Live: BlacKOut Collective has shut down the Oakland Police Department by wendydavis.

    2014-12-16 16:41:28View | Delete

    Oh yeah, I saw it, and could not hold back when Hawkins was interviewed. His was an incredibly powerful statement about police terrorism against black folk and his fear for his son Austin. Anyone who watches that interview and still doesn’t understand what these demonstrations are about is being willfully dumb. On the other hand, [...]

  • ChePasa commented on the diary post Live: BlacKOut Collective has shut down the Oakland Police Department by wendydavis.

    2014-12-16 16:12:30View | Delete

    Indeed. Ms Ché must think I’m losing it in my dotage. I do get choked up witnessing what’s going on. It’s been a long time coming.

    On the other hand, I can’t help worrying about what a crackdown would look like, if and when it comes.

  • ChePasa commented on the diary post Live: BlacKOut Collective has shut down the Oakland Police Department by wendydavis.

    2014-12-16 16:06:01View | Delete

    Evenin’ Mz. My #66 is the Cliff Notes of Bella’s video of the end of the OPD action, including pointers to where to scroll in the video for pertinent info regarding who wasn’t arrested. The Rebel Z vid of the same action is 16 minutes. They are archived livestreams, though, and steady as both Bella [...]

  • The polls reflect how well the ambivalent and pro-torture propaganda has been absorbed by the masses over the last ten years and more. The polls show that it has penetrated relatively well but torture still isn’t considered appropriate by a significant sector of the population, and so, from the point of view of torture advocates, much work remains to be done to convince the “overwhelming majority” of Americans (variously pegged at anywhere from 54% to 70%) to agree that torture is sometimes appropriate for particularly repellant or dangerous-seeming Others.

    Of course moral policies cannot be made on the basis of polls.

    As I see it, torture is always wrong, always immoral, and always illegal, regardless of polls suggesting that a plurality or majority of Americans find it sometimes acceptable.

    Unfortunately, the straightforward case that torture is always wrong is rarely made. When the issue is presented “even handedly” or ambivalently, people will go along with whatever they hear about it, and most of what they’ve been hearing about torture is ambivalent or positive (cf: Cheney, Darth on the Sunday Shows…)

    The moral and legal case against torture (and the legal case against Cheney et al) is fairly easily made. So far, neither have been made clearly and often enough.

  • Defeatism is the tool of the oppressor.

    To say that those who ordered or committed torture — or killer cops — will “never” be brought to justice is defeatism. That’s what I’m challenging.

    Assata Shakur is quoted frequently during the current #Ferguson protests and demonstrations:

    “It is our duty to fight for our freedom.
    It is our duty to win.
    We must love each other and support each other.
    We have nothing to lose but our chains.”
    ― Assata Shakur

    It functions as a chant, a mantra, a prayer and a belief. It may take decades for there to be justice, as has been the case for many victims of torture, false imprisonment, killer cops, and so any other injustices our rulers are responsible for. But justice will come.

    It is our duty to win.

  • ChePasa commented on the diary post Live: BlacKOut Collective has shut down the Oakland Police Department by wendydavis.

    2014-12-16 10:37:54View | Delete

    I guess the news cycle has moved on, but since there are still so many unknowns about the OPD action and arrests, I’ll stick with it for a while longer. The vigil at Lake Merritt last night following the action was very moving… What’s so great about these actions — whether in New York or DC [...]

  • The people who did this, whether the ones in the torture cell using their fists, or the ones in the White House ordering it with their pens, walk free among us. They’ll never see justice done. There will be no Nuremburg Trials for America’s evils…

    Why are you saying “never?” That’s bizarre and bullshit. Our current rulers refuse to hold torturers — among so many others who do their bidding — to account, but they won’t always be our rulers.

    Forces of change are gathering strength.

    Systems of mis-rule falter. Delegitimaztion happens daily.

    “Never” may turn out to be “sooner.”

    Courage.

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