Let’s hope this a trend and he can take some elected progressives with him. History shows this is the only way third parties become major ones. Rememberm, Lincoln was a former whig.

This in combinations with Jeffrey Sach’s revelations make the possibility look very real.

Looks like a Christian Patriarchy, Sovereign Grace freak. Yeah they are Rick Santorum’s and to a certain degree Ron/Rand Paul’s base, and while their numbers are miniscule, they can swing republican caucuses and primaries, because hardly anyone shows up for them.

The original post. This blog decided to support Obama by omission in 2012 knowing full well he was going to sell us out on social security but they did it anyway. Now it is complaining that they are ignored when they were ignored before.

You could have picked a progressive third party candidate like Jill Stein and supported them, and encouraged other outside the beltway progressives to support them, but you chose to be a whiner.

They will win and win and keep winning until we make sure the democrats are loyal to us. and Obama and Harry Reid are not. You do realize that the reason we don’t have an expanding defination of what is possible at this moment is because Reid sold out on filibuster. Yet you mainstream labor people support sellouts like Reid and Obama as lesser evils every time.

Because Dems support it too, and those dems are deamed as lesser evils, even though they don’t give a shit about us anymore than the republicans do. So we much never ever consider voting Green Party!

Let’s hope this means they will get replace the caucuses with primaries. The caucus system favors extremist too. Home schoolers are the only ones with time for them.

Are we going to be shocked when he gives his blessing to this authoritarianism?

The red cross and the salvation army are revolutionary by that standard. They are actually just reifying the conservative belief that people should depend on private charity for everything. That helps the elites.

Cynthia McKinney for president. I am not playing to win at this point. I am playing to make a more loyal party. Better dems only, not more.

I believe that voters can hold bad dems accountable if they are patient and get rid of bad dems over multiple election cycles. I don’t think the changes will be immediate or that their is a quick fix. Just voting out unfaithful dems over multiple election cycles, with third party candidates. You call it spoiling. I call it losing.

In Andrews case Howie Hawkins. In Clintons it was Nader or McKinney.

I voted for Gore as a lesser evil in 2000. 4 years of Obama has cured me of the notion the dems will govern differently that Bush, so many of us have learned the opposite lessons.

Gore’s vp was Lieberman and his advisor was Martin Peretz so it is likely he would have fought the Iraq war too. The establishment dems are full of neocon war hawks. That is why Obama kept it going so long.

What good do they do when they endorse guys like Andrew Cuomo and Hillary Clinton?

Every election during my lifetime has been an apocalyptic one to keep the dems from rolling back the 20th century and none of the elections the dems one have stopped this process in anyway. To paraphrase Jill Stein. By voting lesser evil we have created the very events we have feared. The tea party controls this country already and is rolling back the 20th century with much help from conservative democrats including Obama. The trouble with your idea that there is no solution without the democrats is that I do not believe there is any solution with them, particularly conservative dems.

I sincerely do not believe things will get better till the two faced dems are replaced. I will fight for dems who fight for me, but the ones that don’t can just lose. I have better things to do.

So they will move to the right to accomodate you. Vote green, or justice party, if you want to tell them to move left.

Voting republican because the democrats are too right wing in incoherent!