Pelosi surely knows this: most people making that much money every year do not get paid wages exposed to the income tax. They would be foolish to do so. There are many ways they can get paid, through deferred salary, insurance, 0% interest loans, stock options you name it.

I’m calling Ohio for Romney. Governor Kasich’s massive voter supression efforts will bear fruit. Factor in the lack of motivation amongst leftie voters and Romney will takle it handily. Probably won’t even need a recount.

The San Andreas fault just happens to run the length of the very areas they want to frack. As we know from Oklahoma, fracking causes major geological upheaval. But I seriously doubt any consideration has been given to possibly setting the SA fault in motion.

So this poll finds that most Wall Street Journal readers think Romney is a better choice?

Call me cynical but I don’t theink they want it passed so much as they want to use it during the campaign.

You can add 9) They made the enactment date 5 years in the future so that while the law was settled in court nobody would really have much in the way of beneficial experience so they would be unlikely to support it.

Obama’s heart was never in it. He was elected to create a national health care system like Medicare. He chided the mandate and shamed Hillary and McCain with it. Then he got elected and now we know he sold out to the mandate from the very beginning to please the insurers. The public option was itself a compromise and we know Obama never even wanted that.

Obama proved Lincoln right “I don;t know the secret to success but the secret to failure is trying to please everyone.”

We will *NEVER* see this revisited in our lifetime. Mark my words. It took an extremely rare, perhaps unique, perfect storm to even get PPACA and when, not if, the SCOTUS trashes it entirely, there will be no political will or majorities to even consider dog and pony shows. It will be over and done with and the problem will fester out of control until people are literally forced to decide between life’s essentials and medical insurance.

Yep. Seems poor Trayvon punched the guy in his nose and that was probably what pushed Zimmerman over the edge. WHen you’re in a red rage like that it only takes a little thing to push you over the top. Well, assuming you are less than civilized to begin with.

There was a case in Texas where two men got into a fight. One left the scene and came back with a gun later and shot the other man dead. He claimed self defense and won. It was in Texas where they have an identical SYG law. Apparently you can feel threatened later that day or the next day ro whenever. Doesn’ty have to be at the moment of the incident. I can not make this stuff up and I cannot believe we live under laws like that,

Since 3 out 4 fertilized eggs never implant then we are going to need some way of determininb if it was through negligent homicide or first degree murder.

Exactly. And what stands out here is the clear coverup; the 911 tapes were not released per policy nor has tha autopsy report. That report will come out at some point and I predict it wilkl bring down the entire Sanford PD. They are co-conspirators in my view. Even IF Zimmerman had no racial motivations can it be more obvious that the SPD did? Who sends a narcotics investigator to a murder scene unless they assumed it was some crack dealing black guy that got what he deserved?

In your example an innocent person defending themselves against an attacker would be dead and the attacker set free because he felt “threatened.” Martin and Zimmerman did not just accidentally cross paths. Zimmerman stalked him and took the law into his own hands and used a purely subjective standard for what was “suspicious” in this case a black youth walking on a sidewalk at night. That is by definition a vigilante. His refusal to accept the 911 dispatchers advice clearly proves his intentions and that was an altercation. His defense is equally ridiculous – he “felt” threatened. And clearly he had no reason to feel that way. So now the law has to get inside the guy’s mind, an impossibility, and discard the “reasonable person” standard in the process. A “reasonable person” would have taken every effort to protect themselves by laying low and waiting for help to arrive which was clearly his option. One also does not casually carry concelead weapons when one does not expect to use them. All this points to is the insanity of this type of law and how we’ve gone too far in letting uitrained people carry weapons on their person.

Reality is trying to make legal sense out of a law which itself cannot make any legal sense. That is why this incident is so important because it shows how horrible these new self defense laws really are. They place the burden of proof on a dead victim and the assumption of innocence on a killer. And they remove any responsibility for the killer to attempt any resolution other than with lethal force. The complete irony here is that had Zimmerman used a knife with a blade longer than 4 inches instead of a 9 millimeter gun he would have been held for homicide using an illegal weapon.

You haven’t read much about the case then. Zimmerman has been described as a large man of about 200 pounds and Martin was aroud 5-9 and 140 pounds. Where you should be studying is the aspect of the law regarding failure to retreat. Can you be relieved of your duty to retreat when you caused the very incident? If I come up to you on the street and demand information and you say back off or I’ll kick your ass and then I shoot you dead, is that self defense just because I underestimated your aggressiveness? This law is insane because it places the burden of proof on a dead person.

Speaking of the Florida law, Texas has one just like it. There was an incident where two men get in a scuffle. One fleas the scene and goes home, gets his gun, goes back to find the other guy and shoots him dead. He was exhonerated on the ground of it being self defense. As I recall they were both white. Tempting to wonder the results had race been involved and on which side.

Had the victim been white and the shooter black, yes, there would be no doubt he would be in jail looking at a murder wrap and probably the DP. Of that there is no doubt in my mind.

Also let’s not forget the boy was shot at close range directly in the heart which killed him instantly. That is what is called a “kill shot” in the military. Zimmerman I doubt was just lucky, he meant it to kill. Knowing the police were minutes away he could have chosen a less lethal point of entry. No release of an autopsy which would have shown trajectory and an estimate of how far away the shooter is highly suspect. The whole thing absolutely wreaks of a coverup.