Glenzilla has a good article on Browns case. Just donated some money to the cause. Yes, with a credit card, how ironic.

This really comes down to Obama and the Authocrats. If Romney was doing this, half the government would be fighting this bs (or at least pretending to). Next time some Dembot tells you to vote for the lesser evil think of Schartz and Brown and Manning. The sad truth that they have proven countless times is that they only pretend to fight for justice when the Republicans are in power.

Hilliary is the perfect “bird in a mine” detector for authoritarian sleaze bags. If she weren’t a Democrat, and a “favorite” one at that I would have spent years wondering if Democrats (by and large) where a bunch of evil, boot licking hypocrites.

Who else could we talk about and have someone say they were the best we realistically could do? I mean, someone who considers Mubarak a part of the family. Whose all about a woman’s right to her vagina.. being ripped apart along with any internal organs if they’ve committed the sin of being poor or in the way of MIC money. Whose on the record committing crimes and violating our treaties as part of state. The poster child of getting rich off of “public service”.

All a decent person would need to know is that she served under Obama without resigning in disgrace.

I think the real problem here is not the Democrats who hold political power, its their supports. The self labeled liberals and progressives who hold ideals no where near any of these. Too much time has been spent trying to reason with them, it has reinforced the legitimacy of their despicable beliefs and their warped views on reality. To whit, they pontificate some rainbow sparkly pony illusion of the Democratic party that is in reality a sadistic embrace of fascism and hero worship. I think they need to stop being coddled and should be answered with:

There is no moral justification for supporting a war criminal. No decent person can do so. Any “pragmatic” reasons you can come up with for supporting someone who murders innocent children are invalid and morally bankrupt. Policies may be debated between rational human beings. You fail on either one or both of these traits. No person should have to choose between rooting for Stalin or Hitler, it is a false choice that any person of principle would refuse to make. You may traffic with the scum of the earth if you wish too. This doesn’t make you enlightened or pragmatic or even a decent person outside of your own fantasies. Every tyrant of every age has had water carriers just like you. Conformist or Con Men, able to suspend their cognitive dissonance with fantasies of one type or the other. People too afraid to pull the trigger themselves, but also too scared to not support the school yard bully. At least some of them could say that they had dire need to make the choices they did. They may have faced death or the ruin and dissolution of their families if they didn’t join the Nazis or kowtow to the Emperor. So tell me, what hardship do you face? What is your integrity and the future worth? This is where some of those people could say they did it for the their lives or the lives of their children, literally. You can’t. You’ll trade a 3 to 15% difference between a Democrat or Republican on nearly any issue for the lives of thousands of innocent people. That’s not a difference even worth mentioning. Why bargain with the Devil for so small an outcome?

Since we beat the native children to death to save on bullets I’m guessing.

@Phoenix Woman
It doesn’t matter that it was children. It matters that they were white.
There’s not talk of banning drones among those stalwarts of all that is good, and they’ve churned through the bodies of many an innocent.

This seems like another chance for you to praise Obama for his tireless crusade to help the meek. Or is he powerless this week, I forget?
I have trouble keeping up with all the cognitive dissonance repression techniques and what tortured logic is necessary to support the lesser evils.
Lets see.
Repbulicans, NRA, still bad. Red States like Connecticut with no gun control laws, bad. Killing American children, still bad? ohh, I mean unless Obama signs off on it… Killing American children without the proper permissions, still bad. Lack of decent mental health services, still ok. whew, that was a close one.

Lets all hold a rally for the Democrats so these Republicans murderers can be stopped. We not going to take this killing of children any more. Well, American, Connecticut children with all the proper skin tones and religions
afflictions that aren’t “in the wrong place, at the wrong time”, or weren’t deemed valid military targets.

Its nice to see Dems stand up for their principles.

And nowhere in this insightful analysis is there any mention of classified material on the “3rd string bond girls” computer or that our beloved spy may be replaced by the person Obama wanted in there in the first place.

Its never the sex

Overall, the report shows modest growth in jobs, with the economy bumping along. The major headwinds are all at the foot of Congress and the fiscal slope. It’s their decision whether or not to pull the economy back into recession.

This only applies if you assume 7.9% is the new normal. A small change in an outlier should be described as a small change in an outlier, not as a small change IMHO. Its easy to forget even without the partisan propaganda floating about.

I do agree with your larger points. If the tragedy had been perpetrated by someone the Rs support then we’d be talking about how now was not the time to score political points. Romney would be insulted that someone didn’t respect the somberness of the occasion, etc. I think that is typical partisan behavior.

Don’t trust him with the kill list?

But making enemies throughout the world with words as well as weapons (nobody thinks the drone program would get scaled back in a Romney Presidency, do they?) seems like a fair bit worse.

I do. I think we’d be having senate hearings and all kinds of uproar if this was still the bush presidency. Perhaps after Obama’s 1st term you think that the Democrats couldn’t be so hypocritical. I say their capacity for hypocrisy is boundless. JMHO

I apologize. I forgot to add that Romney can’t be trusted with the Kill List. This is the list of people, citizens and non-citizens, that have been authorized for execution by the executive branch. I say, Executive Branch, not the Obama Administration because, though they created it, it will be passed down as normal policy to who ever takes the reins from now on.
Who knows what kind of people Romney would put on the kill list? So far as we can tell, its been restricted to brown, black, and poor. Maybe he might step out of that pattern, who knows, but it sounds pretty scary. After all those Rs are just crazy.
If such a list were created and ahem, executed, in any other country it would be a war crime and mandate UN intervention. Luckily, Obama is the politically weak (so his supporters tell me) President of America so genocide is not just OK, its actually encouraged. By the Ds, when their guy is doing the killing, and by the R when the price of oil gets too high, on a Tuesday, Fullmoon, etc.

For some reason the Obamabots bring out my sarcastic side. I guess because I am starting to think they are actually far more damaging than their contemporaries and just as if not more evil.

When they say “not a dime’s worth of difference” is a fallacy, what they mean is that the Obama Dems are a much more effective evil. As noted by the Black Agenda editor linked in the main entry, TRNN. Whether they are concerned that Romney couldn’t push through the agenda of the 1% because they Ds might actually function as an opposition party if Obama is out of the picture, doesn’t really matter. They are probably motivated by the normal partisan impulses that afflict Ds dressed up as something nobler like whether homosexuals have the equal right to be unemployed or executed without trial as any other citizen. Because, of course, it really matters when you’re going to drench yourself in blood, whether that blood came from organic, free range muslim children or not.
These are the moral equivalencies we must address and why supporting the Ds political and financial complex is so important.. It really does take “a trip down the rabbit hole” to attempt to comprehend the rational behind supporting pure evil. Someone should survey Ds to determine who they support, Stalin or Hitler so we can hear all the tangled arguments about how one is so much better than the other. At least that would have some entertainment value.

I think you hit the nail on the head. People tend to be tribal, its not an easy force to counteract and is rife for manipulation by the 1%. I think if we look at those periods of history where we have improved relations between different groups (of all stripes) we would probably see they were periods of economic stability. It might be interesting to investigate if one had the time.

I would also add that its very difficult to reach out to bigot when you, yourself, are bigoted. Our society very much is, look at how we treat Muslims. Democrats have no problems if the target group is the right one.
Look at the response to drone attacks. If the OP wants a plan for change, I would start with internal consistency. Then I would work towards goals that helped all groups equally based on compassion for everyone. You’ll never get anywhere without consensus. In this bought-and-paid for political environment it will be difficult even with consensus.
I’d also start with the assumption that economic inequality is the linch-pin of so many other problems.

Either Romney didn’t know that the guns were purchased legally, so Romney thinks it is acceptable to just make up stuff to justify his stance; or Romney did know the guns were legal but actively chose to use clever phrasing to try to deceive the audience into thinking they were illegal to make his position seem more reasonable. Neither makes Romney sound trustworthy or honest, which is probably why his likability numbers are dreadful.

Yet, he is responsible for so few reported innocent deaths. While Obama, on the other hand, can tally up the kill count pretty quickly. The irony never ceases to amuse or depress me.

How about until we address the root causes of violence in our society.

Gas mask?

Why not just sit outside under cover while the theater releases and pick people off with a hunting rifle as they come out of the building? There’s very little risk of getting caught and you don’t need any high capacity magazines. You can always go back later.
You could also sneak in 10 sticks of dynamite just as easily in between shows or some other type of explosive. You wouldn’t even need to be there when they went off.
Or go the easy route and run them over with your car. Probably won’t get away with that one long term but I’m not sure he expected to leave alive. Fire is also an option. Anyway, to actually stop not just crazy, but suicidal crazy, you’ll never run out of things to restrict. Metal detectors will catch guns in a movie theater but not bottles filled with gasoline.
If we’re going to accept the state of having batshit crazy people we should probably be thankful they aren’t imaginative and stick with 100 round magazines that jam. just sayin.

I don’t think that is how the right got what they wanted. They got it firstly by money, then by divide and conquer (the Dems caught up evetually). There are a few issues that can’t be allowed to die because they need some way to distinguish the two political parties. Abortion, gun control, and drug criminalization will always be around because they are an easy way to control peoples emotions. The NRA needs the threat of gun control just as bad or more than anyone else. If there weren’t anyone pushing for it, they would do it themselves. There’s no reason to give the NRA money otherwise. For the same reasons I don’t think the issue of gay rights will ever “die”. D’s need their one issue voters just as much as Rs.
The last thing either party wants is any kind of root cause analysis by any of the public. They wind up their tools on “hot button” items and let the internet fill itself with mindless drivel while the chance for real meaningful change eludes those of us who would actually like it. If everyone concentrated on say, our insanely high income inequality the vested interests would lose out and much of the rest I think would follow.