Please see immediately above…thx…

To you, puravida, and to Crosstimbers in the response @97:

I did kinda breeze by that moral coward phrasing, didn’t I?

It was late, and the wine was working; I’m glad I just asked What’d I miss, cuz it’s apparent I definitely missed something…

I have a lingering sympathy, like a mist that won’t withdraw.

Seems to me this guy bill has suffered a long time with a medical condition, and is appropriately developing ulcers dealing with the government for help.

I didn’t hear him say the help was unappreciated.

He only said Obama vastly underachieved, and that’s hard to refute. In bill’s case, he’s deeply tired and angry about health care in the U.S.

I’ve been following Pat Robertson a long time, and if the Rev. Dr. Robertson says tornadoes hit where people haven’t been paying enough, then I think the Oklahoma disaster must be viewed as a lesson from God, and a well-deserved one at that.

Far be it from me to rejoice in the pain of the sinners, but sinners should know: your dead children are a pathetically minuscule price compared to what you will pay.

I rejoice not in the pain of sinners, but in the presence of my Lord. Lord, with your mighty sword, set these sinners Free! Moore, Oklahoma rejoice, for God has touched you!

You mean you’ve disagreed with things he’s said, or…? What? I’m confused.

That is seriously good punsnark. Too bad it will go unnoticed, bypassed like an empty beer bottle on a Texas highway. Only you and I know…but, that’s good enough for me. It is most punsalacious. Loved it!

Now you’ve got me twisting my mustache, deviously…trying to think of a response…

Or Tualatin…I don’t know where Monroe is, but the point is Wow! I discovered the Tualatin pinot noirs when I lived a few years in Portland last decade, and they are, simply put, full reward for paying attention to wine these last 35 years…Wow!

I noticed the Benton-Lane flyer you linked says “Drink now through 2017.” Those Willamette pinot noirs? OK! I can do that!

Hey, if you’re not black, and you’re not wry, I don’t think you should be offering to share like that.

You got that right: Harvey Milk

being gay was definitely a big part of the story

I remember where I was when KCBS broke the story: just pulled out of the Coop parking lot, sitting at the stoplight at Ashby and Telegraph. The news hit the Bay Area like a nuclear wind, though, like me, the vast majority of the Bay Area wasn’t gay. We were shocked at the news of a pistol murder! Indeed, a double murder, in the middle of the day!

Cuz, ya know, we

dont compartmentalize people into different specific boxes like that.

Yeah, you and Stephen Colbert (in a fictional character role) just don’t see race, don’t see color.

Where do you think you are? A junior high marshmallow roast? But, the person so self-unaware as to make the assertions you’ve made, walks away thinking s/he fooled the audience into buying their holiness.

May I touch the hem of your garment?

Frankly, my dear, if Manning had been a civilian contractor, we’d have a very different story arc. That is all.

Based on the powers invested in me, I am now expanding the pale. Both of you, Teddy and Tbogg, are again within it.

Teddy, Tbogg, I want you both to look each other in the eye and say, “I’m sorry.”

Teddy, I think Tbogg’s got a point when he says ain’t nobody speaks for the gay community at large on this issue. You are certainly on one side, which calls for the parade to honor your political stance re Manning and recent US war and foreign relations. In my heart, I’m with you.

But I also understand there is a difference between civilian whistle-blowing and military whistle-blowing. The military, since time immemorial, always seeks a visceral solidarity, because blood and death is involved. Manning definitely crossed the line, whatever ultimate good may come of it. Hence, it is reasonable to presume essentially all military folk, gay and not, are absolutely repulsed by Manning’s actions.

War has been around a long time, and will continue to be, because its roots are much deeper than any conscious, logical, or philosophical perspectives on it. Fighting persons’ group revulsion to Manning’s actions will also persist. It’s the nature of fighting.

Manning’s actions had a fantastically important civil benefit, still not fully realized, but that can never overcome the FightingPersonsGroups’ instinctive and existentially necessary refusal to sanction those actions.

So, the LGBT (with gaps, as Teddy’s observed) community cannot speak with one voice on a matter such as this, at least as long as we have LGB folks serving. Ain’t gonna happen; military is military is military is an ancient and very much alive sub-culture.

I lived 30 (adult) years in- and tethered-to SF, and the Parade is such a fantastic celebration of being human that I find it difficult to believe it is now so subject to peripheral political issues: Manning’s gay-ness has/had nothing to do with what he is accused of doing.

The parade should not be lowered to sanctioning equivalence between Manning’s military information clearance violations and basic civil rights.

Teddy P., you’re a mucho smart guy with considerable vision in matters such as these, and, I guess, I’m saying you’ve got some serious credibility hereabouts, so:

Are you saying the board should not be allowed/should not have overridden the prior marshalls’ committee’s recommendation?

Do you think the board is excessively corporate?

How/why do you think the Marshall Manning thing got pulled?

Gawd, ya know, yer right. We’re just going to have to cancel the parade.

By the way, have you pooped lately? Did you like your poop, or were you dissatisfied with it?

How did you feel about the size, color and texture?

Would you show it to your mother?

Would you show it to us, or do you want to make a different one for us? I mean, really, this last one I can see is pretty foul.

I don’t get it, Pastor. Have you ever been to an SF Pride parade? And you think it’s a promotional event for Bud Light?

And therefore (what? why?) it could also be Free Manning event? That’s pretty mixed messaging…

It’s fascinating what oil does clean up…wish I knew more college chemistry, cuz I know that’s all this is…then I could go back to the ’50′s and be World’s Best Housewife…

old and slow, thank you…if there were anybody around, I’d be old and in the way…

but, that’s sort of why san diego’s working for me…ride the motorcycle everyday, and the old and slow gets dissipated…

really into my cleaning products, ya see…

I wonder if natural oils in the mustard seed are partly to blame. Have you ever used “Krud Kutter,” readily available in CA at Lowe’s and Home Depot?

I learned one Big thing recently about household cleaning, when dealing with my damnable re-usable motorcycle air cleaner. The air cleaner is re-usable because it’s cloth, with oil on it. Every xxx number of miles, you’re supposed to clean and re-oil it.

Cleaning up oil, especially hardened oil, oil on fabrics, oven interiors, etc., involves using a surfactant. I did not know that.

Aside from the likes of bleach, there are two cleaning agents we use all the time, and they are detergents and surfactants. Detergents have little effect on oils (successes with detergents on oils is mostly due to elbow grease), and surfactants have little effect on non-oily substances.

Keep your eyes out for the word surfactant in your cleaning supply purchases, and match things up to the problem at hand. The two types of chemicals don’t mix well, and hence aren’t mixed much, though a detergent used after a surfactant can be useful.

The motorcycle world pays a 300% markup for surfactants they think are special for motorcycles, but the stuff is exactly the same as chemicals in Krud-Kutter.

A little off-topic, but I think I should ask:

You seem a little wired. Do you know when you last ate? Do have any plans for when and where you might want to be in case you have to sleep?