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jeffroby commented on the diary post Green Party letter to Barack Obama by jeffroby.
Your invective is cute, having all the charm of a Don Rickles routine (actually, I think you love to be cruel), but meaningless.
The Greens at one time had the potential to be a spoiler party in our winner take all system and undermine the Democrat Party.
Perhaps your current condescension stems from your over-estimation of [...]
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jeffroby commented on the diary post Green Party letter to Barack Obama by jeffroby.
this letter is laughed at in it’s entirety by the owners and their Congress and their White House.
Of course. We are not naive. If one wants to talk about naive, it would be naive to think that “the owners and their Congress and their White House” would even read it, let alone laugh at it. [...]
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jeffroby commented on the diary post Green Party letter to Barack Obama by jeffroby.
No group in and of itself has progressive power. What the Green Party can do is give expression in one arena (electoral) to the causes of other groups working the streets. If nothing else, the electoral arena allows us a platform for reaching all sorts of people with a direct message. If it had as [...]
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jeffroby commented on the diary post Green Party letter to Barack Obama by jeffroby.
Don’t worry, we also sent it to Santa Claus.
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jeffroby commented on the diary post Green Party letter to Barack Obama by jeffroby.
The purpose of the letter is not to persuade the Obama administration to quit its low-down ways, but rather to set forth the challenge as clearly as possible.
So quit a’knockin’ and start a’rockin’. The Green Party has more than a program. It runs candidates that can cause the Democrats some well-deserved pain.
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jeffroby wrote a new diary post: Green Party letter to Barack Obama
The Green Party of Florida mailed the below referenced letter to President Obama on January 9. We ask that he consider what legacy he will leave for the people of the United States, and the people of the World, at this critical juncture, with history as judge, and with respect to the expectations of the [...]
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jeffroby commented on the diary post Green Ceasefire not Gun Control by RichardKanePA.
In the last election “A Green New Deal for America”, which the Green Party presented didn’t manage to inspire America.
Nice how you open the piece with a cheap shot. The problem with the Green New Deal was not the content, which would have inspired many, but rather the limited capacity of the Green Party and [...]
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jeffroby wrote a new diary post: Dump Capitalism 9: Chairman Jesus sez:
Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye [...]
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jeffroby commented on the diary post Jill Stein gets 0.35% of the vote – Jill Stein Supporters: Is there anything wrong with this picture? by metamars.
You seem awfully defensive, and I am getting no more information about the Greens’ strategic direction from you than I did from Stein and her campaign manager
What I do tell you, you fail to comprehend. Go to their damn website and you’ll get some picture. It doesn’t look at all like your fun little [...]
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jeffroby commented on the diary post Jill Stein gets 0.35% of the vote – Jill Stein Supporters: Is there anything wrong with this picture? by metamars.
Foithermore …
Contrast that with a management team who is practicing a “Lean Startup” style of management, and it would be like night and day. Not only would the management team have to have a clear (but malleable) strategy, they would have to have a good sense of what their interim goals and supporting data would [...]
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jeffroby commented on the diary post Jill Stein gets 0.35% of the vote – Jill Stein Supporters: Is there anything wrong with this picture? by metamars.
For starters …
I think that most progressives who are “serious and fair” would agree that a 0.35% showing in a Presidential election does indeed raise questions about strategy.
The number 0.35% is completely and utterly meaningless, i.e., raises nothing whatsoever, apart from consideration of what that 0.35% was gotten with. Your complete and utter ignorance [...]
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jeffroby commented on the diary post Jill Stein gets 0.35% of the vote – Jill Stein Supporters: Is there anything wrong with this picture? by metamars.
Are you amenable to seriously and fairly considering any critique of the GP’s recruiting efficiency or strategic smarts?
Of course. Your critique, however, is neither serious nor fair, and your persisting on the matter of conventions is you quibbling with me, but doing so very badly.
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jeffroby commented on the diary post Jill Stein gets 0.35% of the vote – Jill Stein Supporters: Is there anything wrong with this picture? by metamars.
A perfect example of your utter density. I never argued that conventions are an efficient method of recruitment. Obviously not. I was merely countering your assertion that conventions weren’t a method of outreach at all.
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jeffroby commented on the diary post Jill Stein gets 0.35% of the vote – Jill Stein Supporters: Is there anything wrong with this picture? by metamars.
So who’s excited? All I said — in response to your total dismissal of conventions — was that they could be an organizing device. Given what I’ve said, on this thread and elsewhere, about Green organizing, your inference about this is a matter of willful ignorance. This is far from your best work, and has [...]
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jeffroby commented on the diary post Jill Stein gets 0.35% of the vote – Jill Stein Supporters: Is there anything wrong with this picture? by metamars.
Willfully dense. My point is that conventions can be part of a recruitment drive, as are local speaking appearances, which you disparage as mere publicity gimmicks.
If I had advanced that the Green strategy should be to hold as many conventions as possible, then your response might seem minimally coherent, but I did not.
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jeffroby commented on the diary post Welcome to Jill Stein’s Victory Party by normanb.
… dance to the music!
If you’re into electoral politics at all, Green is it.
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jeffroby commented on the diary post Jill Stein gets 0.35% of the vote – Jill Stein Supporters: Is there anything wrong with this picture? by metamars.
Take it outside. One aspect of parties is that they attract all sorts of people, some you like, some you don’t. Don’t use Larue to take a cheap shot at the Greens.
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jeffroby commented on the diary post Jill Stein gets 0.35% of the vote – Jill Stein Supporters: Is there anything wrong with this picture? by metamars.
No, not that I noticed. However, when I say “building the Green Party”, I’m talking about something that’s primarily about recruitment. Conventions are for people who are already in the club/organization/Party (right?).
Wrong. Shows what you know about parties and organizations. Conventions are outreach and organizing events themselves. Often, the actual votes taken are their least [...]
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jeffroby commented on the diary post Jill Stein gets 0.35% of the vote – Jill Stein Supporters: Is there anything wrong with this picture? by metamars.
QUESTION #1 — yes QUESTION #2 — yes QUESTION #3 — yes QUESTION #4 — who the fuck cares? QUESTION #5 — no, if people have the energy to petition, they could better spend that time working for the Green Party rather than another meaningless clickathon. But you give it away in your title:
Jill Stein [...]
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