20 years of propaganda works your point?
Traits expressing resistance to poisons which none-the-less then show up in the fruits of these organisms which humans are consuming. Said it twice now. Hence the problem with GMO crops and adverse effects on human health.
You can say it over and over to your blue in the face [...]
No I am not paid by anyone to make these comments. I hate conspiracy theory anti science nonsense which the Anti GMO movement is along with the Anti Vax movement, Global warming deniers and creationist. You guys are all the same thing. There are plenty of long term studies out there. In fact the link [...]
Just wrong. Monsanto has roughly the same revenue as Whole Foods does. Lets look at India where after the introduction of Bt Cotton which now accounts for 99 percent of the cotton there. They earned more money, spent less on pesticides, where able to grow or buy more food and are now less likely to [...]
Huh? Bt crops are sold with refuge specifically to avoid bugs from building a resistance for as long as possible. What does antibiotics have to do with GMO crops? And huh on use of antibiotic resistance markers in genetic engineering?
Lets go though that list 1- This comes from a low impact journal (3.141) 2 3- IRT is not a legitimate scientific organization and this is by no means a peer reviewed paper. One of their experts is a flying yoga. 4- This paper was retracted for a numerous design faults along with animal ethic [...]
Of course labeling should not be mandatory. The most important reason why is the purpose of the label is to give customers important information such as ingredients (GMO are not ingredients they are breeding technique) because people have food allergies or other dietary restrictions. You put a label on you are telling the public that [...]
Arkin is the executive director of a small nonprofit organization called Beyond Toxics that works to protect human health and the environment in Oregon by reducing the use of toxic herbicides and pesticides on farms, in forests, and along roadsides.
Have they seen the LD50 number for Glyphosate? Its less toxic then a lot of stuff [...]
There might be plenty of “information” but there is no evidence in respected peer reviewed journals. And what corruption? The hundreds of independently financed studies that have show no harm? That just about every important scientific origination has a statement saying that GMO pose no harm?
Peer reviewed journals are my friends.
For a guy that wants to be president this right here is why he never will be. Wow you pissed of Peta and riled up your base. But what did that get you? It got you an attack ad that will be used against you in the Republican primary showing how big of a dick [...]
Consumers need to know what they are buying. your hysterical straw man argument response was
So you would support labeling for the exact DNA sequence of all food products then?
-Nope just the GMO ones and since their creators in order to patent these foods already have their DNA on file why not let people know? Its not like we can copy a DNA sequence.
-Along with the DNA sequence for all potential cross containments in the supply chain?
Strawman nope we just want the GMO.
So again you have no safety reason at all for wanting labeling of your food. You want food labeled because of your politics.
Does that mean you will support Mississippi labeling crops based on who picks the fruit?
This is not a straw man this is the whole conversation. Food labels are too important to play games with. Its about safety. So if you have a safety argument go right ahead and try to make it despite the thousands of studies including hundreds of independent studies that show the safety of GMOs.
Any evidence organic farmers do this please provide a link to credible news sources
I know its not natural news or anything but how about the actual guidelines.
How can GMO’s be controlled but require no testing at the same time?
Huh? They require approval from the USDA and EPA. And while FDA approval is “voluntary” it really isn’t seeing as the FDA will pull the product from the shelves if you ignore them wasting tens of millions of dollars. Never mind that no one has even though of ignoring FDA testing.
Gist awesome series on GMOs has an excellent story about the testing.
Other countries refuse GMO food if GMO apples spread their DNA through cross pollination with bees then Washington apple farmers the best apples I ever had won’t be able to export their apples.
NO they don’t. Apples don’t work the way you think they work. New Apple trees are produced by grafting and are clones. Growing from seed is the powerball when it comes to what traits the fruit are going to contain most of which are not viable for the market.
Other governments do not believe GMO is organic
What are you even talking about? To be certified organic in the United State you cant be a GMO but you can be mutation breeding. But, then Organic is an anti-science religious marketing label not about health and the environment.
Getting back on topic Farmers know all this stuff there is no way they voted for this law.
LOL. Speak to a farmer some time. They are not on the whole anti science. Organic farmers don’t have pristine meadows like the labels show.
Yes I have read the actual court decision. I find it funny the way the anti GMO side has portrayed that case. Monsanto won the case because there is not a single piece of evidence that they sue farmers for anything but contractual disputes or purposely violations of IP.
Apples cant become accidentally cross pollinated by GMO versions its impossible. Apples are all cloned in order to produce an edible product.
Wayoutwest I have to ask where do these myths even come from?
You know how easy it is to switch from a GMO crop to a non GMO crop? Flipping the seed catalogue a few pages. It really is that simple to switch.
The so called super weed problem is vastly overblown by the anti science luddites. Its a fairly minor problem in mostly the southern US that has mostly easy solutions. The solution to the problem is fairly easy follow the directions on the seed and good farming practices. We are about to have 2,4-D ready seeds hitting the market so one season those 2 seasons Glyphosate would also work. This is a problem that has gone on for 10,000 years and will go on for the rest of human civilization.
I am not sure where you are getting this increase in pesticide use from? Since GMO have hit the market inputs have gone way down. Glyphosate (round up) use has gone up but that is a great thing since it replaced nasty stuff like Atrazine.
Seed patents have been allowed in the US since 1920. The most liberal vice president this country will ever see made a fortune with patented hybrid seeds oh and he basically saved the American Farmer doing that and while Ag Sec. RR seeds are off patent next year. Glyphosate has been off patent for 13 years. So Monsanto basically has control over the input and seeds for a whopping 4 years when it comes to corn and less then that for soy. When you sign your tech agreement with Monsanto for RR you are allowed to use any glyphosate you want to buy but they wont guarantee the seed.
Anyways if you are so worried about the control of corporations when it comes to GMO blame those that try to ban it. They have driven the cost of testing and regulation up about 600 percent to about a 135 million dollars. The little guy cant afford to play in this area without these companies giving them humanitarian licenses.
So you would support labeling for the exact DNA sequence of all food products then? Along with the DNA sequence for all potential cross containments in the supply chain? As well as the names of all the people that handled the food in the supply chain? The trains and trucks used to move the supply chain?
The purpose of a food label is to provide scientifically meaningful information to the consumer and to provide safety information to the consumer. There is 0 in the way of credible evidence that GMO are a safety hazard this includes government, industry and independent studies on the product. GMO are the most studied food products in human history.
GMO are not an ingredient either. It is a breeding technique and well a safe one at that. You can get organic products that where produced by dosing the seeds into a chemical bath to force radical mutation. Or shot with X Rays to produce radical mutation. Again these methods that are not controlled like GM require no testing and can be labeled Organic.
NO the have not. Never once has Monsanto or any other Agrotech company sued a farmer for accidental cross pollination. Monsanto has sued exactly 144 farmers since 1998. They sued these farmers after other farmers called in tips to them that these farmers were cheating.
What has happened in every single case is the farmer tried to game the system. The get these seeds outside of the agreement then dose them with round up trying to get RR crops for free. Or they broke their contracts that they agreed to when they bought the seeds and replanted them.
There has never been some innocent farmer that had RR seeds blow into their fields and they did not know until big ebil Monsanto lawyers showed up to sue them out of business.
see Organic Seed Growers V Monsanto. The case won because the Organic Seed Growers could not provide 1 example of this.
RR and Bt are awesome for the environment. Glyphosate (round up) has a short half life, little run off, breaks down in to nutrients, allows for low and no till farming, and is much less toxic then the herbicides it replaced while requiring even today with the “superweeds” less applications. Bt as allowed insecticide use to plummet.
Farmers are not stupid. They are not just going to line a seed companies pocket unless they where receiving a benefit greater then the cost.
Don’t forgot the big money on the other side that funded the signature drive in the first place and look to cash in if this passed like Dr. Mercola and Jeff Smith. Dr Mercola funny enough is against labeling supplements which he also sells.
This is a win for science pure and simple.
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