Sorry, but people did like it when Kennedy did it. Robert Kennedy, however he may have started out, grew in the affection of people and was likely to become the next Kennedy in office. Not because it was a dynasty but because he spoke for the constituency of the Democratic Party which the current party has ignored.

Sorry to have been away doing things. You don’t seem to understand my post, though erichwwk@59 does – thank you, erich.

No, I haven’t been living under a rock,( though some pretty neat critters do.) Here’s what I know about politics: there are not two parties; there is a duopoly chosen and orchestrated by the ptb who own the candidates in both main parties lock, stock, and barrel. To continue as many posters on this forum do, to pretend one is better than the other goes against everything we have learned about both parties.

The reason you, guilty bystander, won’t vote for a third party candidate is because, as you argue, they wouldn’t stand a chance of winning, or of governing once in office. I put it to you thusly: what governance are we presently getting?

I will not vote for either side of the duopoly, not nationally, not locally. Not ever again. They have both done the corporate will and wrecked this country and almost the entire world. They are criminal warmongers. They should be ridden out of town, out of the country, on a pole. I’ve got the tar, and the feathers.

And I also put this to you: Either Hillary or Joe Biden (as I saw broached on another thread) will be 2016′s version of John McCaine. The ptb are already looking (but won’t reveal until the last minute) for a Sarah Palin lookalike so that their Republican version of Obama will be a shoein. They’ve already got the orchestration going. Hillary and Joe can go ‘head to head’ just the way Hillary and Barack did – entertaining, oh so entertaining! And ‘liberal’ as heck, but oh so long in the tooth (they’ll be sure and flub stuff like McCaine did so you get the point.) The one thing about the ptb – they don’t have much imagination.

Are we all such total schmucks?! Are we going to fall for this again and again and again? As far as politics go in conversation on FDL, it sure does seem hard to the point of impossible to get out of the same old rut. And as the media are bought and paid for, so it will go.

I really hope everyone enjoys the ride. It will all be very familiar, like a ferris wheel, up and down, lovely view. Up and down. For me, I want an Arabian steed and a fresh start out in the desert blooming like a rose. Masturbation? Hardly. The really fun part of it for me has been voting Green, and maybe I’ll have more company next time! Or maybe I will just (indrawn shocked breaths from whomever) sit it out. The view from here is lovely. Far from the madding crowd…

In any event, I will be so glad to see the last of what we’ve got – unfortunately, like bad pennies, they keep turning up. (Why is that about bad pennies? I guess because they sit in your pocket gathering dust – you look for the good ones but there are none.)

I object to this diary. No, yesterday’s hearing was not ‘all about trying to tie blame to Hillary Clinton.’

See Kevin’s post at the Dissenter:

http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2013/05/08/congressional-progressive-caucus-holds-hearing-on-us-drone-policies/

Although there is no tangible record of the hearing, to characterize it as is done here is a disservice to the complexity that is the problem with what happened in Benghazi when the ambassador died. It’s not just about politics.

Kevin gives a more adequate summation in my opinion.

Again, thank you so much, Kevin, for covering news vital to this nation’s security. The points made in the comments are important also. The presidential Oath of Office has been violated by this and the preceding occupant of the White House. We should have known when he didn’t get it right the first time.

Thank you, Kevin, for all you do.