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k2o4 commented on the blog post NPR’s Planet Money: Prohibition Makes Drug Dealers Richer, Increases Crime, Barely Reduces Use
This is a great listen but I gotta address one thing that came up in the show. An economist they interview claims that legalizing drugs is a trade off between reducing crime and increased addiction. But that’s a false dichotomy, a logical fallacy.
Legalization is just as likely to decrease addiction as raise it… if addicts no longer have to fear legal trouble because of their illness (self inflicted but an illness none the less) and can be treated as patients rather than criminals, I think it will help improve treatment results. People often think of drug addiction as the result of some super addictive substance. That’s the story we’ve been fed, that this scary drug will steal our soul and ruin our lives if we so much as take it 1 time, but it’s not true. There’s a whole list of things that contribute to addiction, from the drug’s potency to your genetic predispositions to the room you use the drug in. We like to have 1 thing to blame, it keeps things simple, but it’s not accurate. The environment around us (social attitudes, peer groups, access to treatment, etc), contributes greatly to addiction, and legalization would change the environment by switching our countries focus away from viewing drug use as a criminal problem and instead to seeing it as a medical problem.
For one second, please imagine prohibiting… masturbation …….. it just wouldn’t work, would it? We human’s like to alter our state of consciousness, just like we enjoy sex and food, and you can’t get us to stop. We will always attempt to alter our state of consciousness whether it be by smoking a cigarette, drinking a beer, meditating, dreaming, yoga, skydiving, sex, or any other drugs, and how we want to do it should be our choice.
In all of our communities there is a small population that will always use drugs no matter how illegal you make them. I have a theory that this drug using population won’t grow so much, even if legalization happens. Why? Because the one’s who aren’t using crack right now mostly just don’t want to use it. I know if crack was made legal tomorrow I sure wouldn’t go out and buy it just because it was suddenly legal. I’ve no desire to buy it. I don’t think there’s a rush of new customers to the freshly built corner drug store. Any increase in use would be by current consumers who then have easier access. But increased use by regular customers doesn’t mean an increase in addiction. If the liquor store has a sale and you buy more than you normally would, do you automatically become an alcoholic? No (for the majority of us at least). Alcohol is addictive and you can die from the withdrawal symptoms, yet increased use by a regular consumer doesn’t cause addiction.
I’d rather that the current crack consumers be allowed to buy it without endangering their lives and mine by funding criminals and increasing crime, that instead of drug dealers getting all the money most of it goes to legitimate business owners and some of it goes to tax revenue, which should be set aside to fund treatment of drug abuse, health care and national parks. Let the drug purchasers fund the drug treatment. Isn’t that better than the current system where our tax dollars pay for a little bit of treatment and a whole lot of wasted policing? And might not the treatment programs be better funded if the billions we poured into persecuting citizens of our country for altering their state of consciousness in a manner of their own choosing (aka putting whatever the fuck they want to put into their own damn body) were instead put into treatment programs? And wouldn’t the farming industries in our country be boosted if they were allowed to grow the drugs here? And wouldn’t families be left better off because they no longer face the situation of being denied financial aid when trying to send their kid to college, all due to a drug charge from when their kid got caught with some weed? That’s the other problem with his argument – he acts as if the only benefit of legalization is a decrease in crime.
I can’t say for sure that legalization would decrease addiction, but I think there’s a chance that it could. What I can say for sure is that prohibition sure as hell isn’t working and under its rein new drugs like meth have appeared, addicting more people. 40 years of a drug war and things are just as bad as ever, yet we continue with the same strategy. Isn’t it insane to continue to do the same thing yet hope for a different result?
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k2o4 commented on the blog post Marijuana Reform Questions Slated to Dominate Obama’s Online Town Hall
awesome! I’m going to vote now! Let’s get those questions asked. And he better not laugh them off this time.
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k2o4 commented on the blog post PPIC Poll Reveals Why Californians Voted Against Prop 19
very interesting to see these results. let’s get it right next time. CO 2012!
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k2o4 commented on the blog post Poll Continues to Show Majority of Canadians Support Marijuana Legalization
Can they organize to legalize their states or does it have to be country wide?
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k2o4 commented on the blog post Prop 19 Loses in California, but Marijuana Legalization Moves On
I want to thank and give credit to Just Say Now, SSDP, NORML, and all the other people and organizations that worked their asses off to try and pass Prop 19 and the other marijuana legislation around the USA. You are all heroes in my book and I’m extremely grateful for the work you’ve done. Please don’t give up – we’re so close and we need you. Marijuana Prohibition will end and we will be the ones that make it happen.
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k2o4 commented on the blog post Obama Administration Cheers Defeat of Prop 19
Very well said tammany. It’s not 1 simple answer, it’s a convoluted mess which is why it’s so hard for people to see what’s really going on. The overall story is the same though – rich white assholes using their power to ensure they continue to get richer. It’s a disgusting system.
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k2o4 commented on the blog post Obama Administration Cheers Defeat of Prop 19
Obama has lost so much of my respect.
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k2o4 commented on the blog post Prop 19 Loses in California, but Marijuana Legalization Moves On
I intend to keep fighting for the end of Marijuana Prohibition and I look forward to putting it on the ballot here in CO in 2012. I think we can end the prohibition here in our state, especially during a presidential election. Don’t despair, don’t give up, don’t think all is lost. This is just the early stages of what history will talk about as the movement that freed Americans from 75 years of lies and manipulation and finally ended the prohibition on marijuana.
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k2o4 commented on the blog post Gallup Finds Nearly Half of America Supports Marijuana Legalization
It’s beautiful to see the countries consciousness becoming aware of the reality of Marijuana, rather than continuing to be fooled by the lies we’ve all been told all of our lives.
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k2o4 commented on the blog post YouTube Censors Pro-Prop 19 Video from NORML
The constant censorship is absolutely ridiculous. Youtube and facebook should be ashamed of themselves. Very unamerican.
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k2o4 commented on the blog post Prop 19 Trailing by Two in New SUSA Poll
We’ve gotta get on the phones!
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k2o4 commented on the blog post Yes on Prop 19 Narrowly Trails in Latest Poll, 45-48
Get to the phones!
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k2o4 commented on the blog post In California, Early Voting Boosts Prop 19’s Prospects
Good sign but we can’t get lazy – gotta keep getting the word out this final week!





