Thank you Pam

9I have more to say about this but…gotta run

I’m from the old school of 1970′s comic geekdom so…

Without Ant-man, The Wasp, The Vision, and the Scarlet Witch it really isn’t the Avengers.

(sigh!) I’ll probably go and see it eventually

Thank you, Pam

well, everything that you said is part of it but, yes, there is race/ethnic based opposition to it as well.

And, yes, xenophobia is the exact word for it.

This statement is a lot of whackadoddle.

But then again, this is one of the bottom lines of almost any form of “nationalism” and you can find it in statements by the Nazis, in Serbia, the Ku Klux Klan here, and in the black community.

They would consider gays to be a pollution to “the race”…whatever that is.

I not THAT light skinned (in fact my skin tone is abt. the color of caramel) but I have never felt the need to use these products either.

In spite of the abuse that I have put to my body over the years (though not recently) I have always received compliments on my skin complexion. I’m talking about I can wear muscle tees not to show off my (lack of) muscles but to show off the skin.

It’s one of the few thinas that I have ever found physically attractive about myself. So even though I’m not all that light-skinned (although I have met many Indians who are considerably darker than I), I have never felt the necessity or the want to use these products

Geek, I live on the Northside too, so of course I know about the extreme diversity of where the both of us live and…no, your story does not surprise me…even though there are quite a few arabs and muslims where we live (esp. around the Devon Ave. area)

Yeah, try riding an elevator while black, that’s the one I run into A LOT!

The look of horror on the faces of some (usually older) white folk is so precious (granted, the Chitown weather has me wearing a hoodie most days).

It is not just a matter of doing the right thing, but of doing the politically necessary thing.

Bingo.

I just can’t believe that NOM was so arrogant as to document this strategy so extensively.

Frankly if I were an organization like NOM, I would exploit the divide too.

Pretty much agree that it’s craven political opportunism on the President’s part.

Frankly, I don’t think that supporting marriage equality would hurt his reelection chances nowadays; this is no longer 2004 or 2008.

I just don’t think that supporting marriage equality helps his reelection chances in 2012. That’s what it would take for him to support it at this point.

And I believe that Barack Obama will be the last Democratic candidate for President that does not run on a marriage equality platform

Laurel, I do agree with you on the utility of separatism and in a couple of online discussions I’ve agreed with Manago in the way that he poses the issue.

Personally, though, I’m with Alvin…the notion of being “down” with one community at the expense of another (and lets’ leave aside the various “communities” I am a member of) is simply a losing proposition…I simply find the notion way too provincial for my taste.

That’s a fair point…and it has been brought up that Perkins out and out lies…

The difference there that i can see is that Steele and Perkins represent the political class whereas Martin is a regular political commentator and an employee of CNN.

Thank you Pam, for this.

The personal insults don’t bother me one bit, to be honest (in fact, I called Martin a fathead in one forum) but race-based insults are inexcusable.

A shot at the nomination?

Considering this field of candidates, yes.

Winning the presidency? No.

I think that the Shrub has really ruined it for Jeb.

gosh, he resembles Ted Haggard a bit…not that that means anything

No…at least I really, really don’t want to.

I have to run but…I used to work in a soul food resturant in Chicago.

In my experience, church folks OF ANY RACE are poor tippers. Black non-churched folks, I find, are generally better tippers than white people

I almost wonder if someone wasn’t playing a cruel joke on Perry.

Almost.

Here is the funny thing to me…

More or less synonymous with all these words is the word niggardly.

But niggardly (as I knew long before that DC controversy) is not etymologically rooted in the racial epithet ni**er.

Yet it has a similar meaning to all of these other words and phrases that actually are rooted in racial/ethnic epithets.

Of course, when it comes to this anthropological/linguistics/historical type of stuff I have to get my geek on…

Ah, the wonders of google…

This phrase is almost in the league of “gypping” someone out of something (in fact to “jew someone down” is almost synonomous with “gypping” someone”

Both terms are incredibly racist…