To paraphrase what Cliff Huxtable said of his son, Theo, in an old episode of The Cosby Show:

He’s EVOLVED!

Uh, then you need to kick all of the gays and lesbians out of your choirs, since they are living “that lifestyle.”

“Perfect example would be the 2004 election when President Bush was doling out those faith-based initiatives to many black churches and black church leaders and how these same leaders vocally supported his cry against marriage equality.

They, and the black community, unfortunately found out the real depths of how the Bush Administration thought of the black community during Hurricane Katrina.”

That’s a good point, I never looked at it like that, Alvin.

please produce the evidence that Tim Tebow is a “bigot”

and if you’re saying that his defenders (of which I’m really not one) against the churches are icon worshippers, well, you’d be right.

That, in and of itself, is not a positive or a negative.

an interesting case study here.

Tebow is not a very good NFL QB (in fact, he’s pretty awful) and one could say that the only reason that he has the prominence that he does is due to Christianist influence (although a little of that is also due to the cobverage of Tebow by gay blogs…which is an entirely different story but should be duly noted).

So this backlash here against the Christianists is interesting in that aspect.

Tebow may have unintentionally done a bit of a service here in highlighting the extreme bigotry of Jeffres religious views.

Then in the case of, say, Sandy Hook, who is “the Other?”

because it’s not as if these young white privileged men are going into the ghetto or the barrio or the trailer park and shooting up Others.

They’re mostly shooting up their own communities (thus, reminding me vaguely of the occasional 20/20 hindsight joking about blacks rioting and destroying their own neighborhoods..I may be stretching a little bit making that connection…)

This, on top of the zombiwe story that came out of Florida is a bit much.

I mean, I thought that i had a macabre imagination from reading one too many of my Mom’s Alfred Hitchcock’s magazines but in Florida, all I have to do is watch the local news, I guess.

Well, sheesh, can they just type “white” in front ogf gays and get this sick type of race baiting out of the closet.

I’m sick of this shit.

Fordham, like my alma mater (Loyola-Chicago) is a Jesuit school, therefore it’s a surprise that this evil woman got an invitation.

Nice to know that the right wing tactics never change…I recall that they did this to Virginia Clinton too.

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What’s been absent since the 70′s has been advocacy from African American church leaders for any of the other civil rights movements (Feminism and LGBT rights).

You can’t be serious about that?

One of the first presidential candidates to endorse marriage equality was an African American church leader (The Rev. Al Sharpton)

There’s Jeremiah Wright.

There’s the Wiley’s who were influential in the fight for marriage equality in the District of Columbia.

Granted there are African American leaders on both sides of that divide but your statement tells me where yuou choose to focus your energy.

Not a surprise at all…

I wonder is this true nationally (i.e. other states with various “stand your ground laws”

Thank you Pam

9I have more to say about this but…gotta run

I’m from the old school of 1970′s comic geekdom so…

Without Ant-man, The Wasp, The Vision, and the Scarlet Witch it really isn’t the Avengers.

(sigh!) I’ll probably go and see it eventually

Thank you, Pam

well, everything that you said is part of it but, yes, there is race/ethnic based opposition to it as well.

And, yes, xenophobia is the exact word for it.

This statement is a lot of whackadoddle.

But then again, this is one of the bottom lines of almost any form of “nationalism” and you can find it in statements by the Nazis, in Serbia, the Ku Klux Klan here, and in the black community.

They would consider gays to be a pollution to “the race”…whatever that is.

I not THAT light skinned (in fact my skin tone is abt. the color of caramel) but I have never felt the need to use these products either.

In spite of the abuse that I have put to my body over the years (though not recently) I have always received compliments on my skin complexion. I’m talking about I can wear muscle tees not to show off my (lack of) muscles but to show off the skin.

It’s one of the few thinas that I have ever found physically attractive about myself. So even though I’m not all that light-skinned (although I have met many Indians who are considerably darker than I), I have never felt the necessity or the want to use these products

Geek, I live on the Northside too, so of course I know about the extreme diversity of where the both of us live and…no, your story does not surprise me…even though there are quite a few arabs and muslims where we live (esp. around the Devon Ave. area)

Yeah, try riding an elevator while black, that’s the one I run into A LOT!

The look of horror on the faces of some (usually older) white folk is so precious (granted, the Chitown weather has me wearing a hoodie most days).