Maybe a new dynamic. Looks like 60-70 rabid gop wingers will never vote for anything Obama proposes. If Obama proposed privatizing SS they would vote against him. Obama now needs Dem House and Senate members to pass his budget–he cannot pass his essentially moderate-to-right-wing budget by solely relying on gop. He must gain enough support from the Dem representatives. My impression is that this time out, many Dems ma not be lockstep (except for Pelosi). Three of four Oregon dems voted against the current budget.

I suppose the great irony here is that blind Obama hatred by teabagger reps has caused them to validate the old saw: Cut one’s nose off to spite one’s face. It was this group of crazies who kept Obama from knee-capping SS.

Purposeless pragmatist. Our first existentialist president. Seems to fit.

I expect O is making a show of defending middle income earners before lowering the boom on SS, Medicare and Medicaid.

That was the implication for me.

Okay moderate republican speech.

Given the speech, only two ways to fiscal health is to slash spending and pleaase ask “the wealthiest Americans to pay a little more in taxes”. Like asking them to choose the mid-priced. Such hard hitting decisive rhetoric.

No indication of a Keynsian stimulus package. The role of gummit will be to simply collect taxes and cut expeditures.

As Krugman noted, and which he may have forgotten, but he hit Obama for basically taking on the rhetoric of basically right wing economics during the last round of budge–it is all about deficitm deficit, deficit cutting–and being the moderate right of center president, please rich people, pay a little bit more.

Obama is the best republican running. The election is between a Rockefeller republican vs. a hard right Bush Jr./Reagan republican.

Right wingers and solid Democrats share a common illusion about Obama–that he is a liberal.

About Nader. McDonnell is full of self serving Dem party bullshit. In 2000 the Gore loss was spoken in terms of voter suppression, a corrupt Supreme Court, ballot construction, yuppie riots stopping the counting of votes, etc.

In 2012 the loss is all about Nader for Dem party apologists like O’Donnell. For the last 12 years Dem party elites marginalized Nader for the simple fact that he represented an alternative to an increasing right moving party and subserviance to monied interests. Nader was a leftist insurgency movement and he had to be stopped by Dems. Fast forward to last year, and the worst police violence against OWS was in cities controlled by Dems. OWS in many ways was a leftist insurgency. And it too had to be marginalized and beaten down.

During these last 12 years, Dem party leaders and activists did nothing about fixing the election systems. They had their narrative about the loss, and it wasn’t about voter suppression, which is why dem leadership was blind sided by gop creating legalized forms of Jim Crow.

You want change, then vote for change.

The problem is that as the security state increases, everybody is soon considered guilty of something. There is no such trait as “innocent” at a certain point. Simply declaring one’s innocence is by itself proof of guilt.

Well, the ad won’t work. It won’t work as there hasn’t been that much benefit right from a alot of people now unless you already were doing okay. For example, the extended coverage for children under a policy to the age of 26. Unless you had such a policy that included older children to begin with, well kids out of luck. The high risk pools the same as they were costing up to $800 a month if a person survived to get into them. The Obama admin also excluded abortion from the policies even though the law did not require the restriction.

Very few people have seen any benefits, and only if one could spare alot of extra money or lucky to be under certain programs. Is it any wonder the apologists have to rely on dreams of future Lala land of milk and honey to sell it.

One word. Nader. Starting in 2000 and in particular 2004 Nader was marginalized not by the right wing but by the democratic party as the cause of their defeats, and not voter suppression, Supreme Court rulings, blue dog voters, etc.

Why? Nader represented a political altnerative to the democratic party for people on the left. He had to be destroyed politically or the party could lose a good portion of its base.

So too with OWS. If OWS keeps growing and if it and if its emerging leadership cannot be co-opted as party hacks, expect democratic party leadership to turn on OWS and attempt to marginalize the movement in the same way it did to Nader. No alternatives are allowed.

It is not a matter of their masks slipping, but given the forum the mass media cannot edit out them showing their true form. During their contrived political ascendency two summers the main stream mass media did not show the nihilistic nature and racism of the teabaggers. Local media did show now and then, but pretty much a cover up–most of the exposure came out of left wing websites showing for example, the signs never shown in the mass media. But now, the shouting and sentiment and full statements of the right wing candidates cannot be covered up or edited out.

I suspect that the gop big money daddies will be pushing for more crowd selection and control in future debates to avoid showing the nation what the teabaggers are about.