What mechanism kicks in to prevent the nightmare scenario: subsidies are voided yet the mandate and punitive tax assessment remain in place. Obama exempts the employer mandate.
Im foggy on this: feds guarantee subsidies if states opt out?
Under Obama the deficit went from 10 trillion to now in Nov. 2014 it ballooned to 18 trillion
Where does it end?
“Mommy make it stop!”
I see the fallacy of Obamacare thusly: hoping the best case scenario is the most likely scenario.
Here you go marym:
Page 8, table 2
Uninsured 2014 – 42 million
Uninsured 2024 – 31 million
I rarely read TBogg bc I found his submissions rather pedantic and insipid. And the worst sin: he was not humorous? but on the few occasions i read one, for a satirist he had thin skin and was a dick in the comments sections.
I figured his “retirement” was akin to “will the last Obot on FDL please remember to turn out the lights”
I thought he would take his tired schtick over to Daily Kooz where the flotsam and jetsam of the Hope and Change dopes still engage in Obamanian Cult of Personality
But neither the Congressional Budget Office nor anyone else believes Obamacare will ever bring the number of uninsured Americans down to zero. A decade from now, CBO projects 31 million people will not have health insurance, 25 million fewer than if the Affordable Care Act hadn’t been enacted, but still 11 percent of the population.
If there aren’t premium price controls, i refuse to believe these CBO projections. At some point demoralized families will find it cheaper just to pay the punitive tax and take your chances at the Emergency Room
I just dont understand how the Dems are so out of touch with working American voters that they cant see how working people see obamacare
1. Forced to buy a plan on confusing exchanges with terrible customer service interface: Healthcare.gov
2. Expected 10-20% premium Increases for INSURANCE, each and every year
3. Narrow coverage networks, difficulty in finding doctors to take your insurance
4. Huge and financially catastrophic deductibles: 6k individual, 12k family for HEALTH CARE
5. Non compliance means you are assessed a punitive TAX by the universally hated IRS. Which functions as a Robin Hood in reverse scenario
obamacare plans are an expensive “necessity” you cant afford to “use”
This isnt some social voting issue like gay marriage or reproductive rights. It is mandated govt insistence that affects the two most important issues in any American family’s reality
B. Family finances
This is not going to “blow over” for the voters. How many more elections are they going to lose whistling through the graveyard over the political repercussions of Obamacare
And it still leaves 30 million UNINSURED even after ten years of implementation according to the CBO
A sobering poll for Debbie Wasserman Shultz to ponder? Where is the. Dem demographic salvation?
If the Progressive Caucus is “ascendant” as the blue dogs and Red State D’s keep being obliterated why do they meekly keep supporting Pelousy and the Fossil to “lead”them.
Congressional Progressives are weak sauce. Dems dont want to fight while they continue to triangulate a “position”
They are lost and rudderless as a party. They hope for a demographic salvation rather than work for party loyalty
2014 showed what counting your chickens led to: those groups who bothered to vote last month voted less for Dems
No offense, lib, but there is none of the smug contempt of the vastly unfunny Tbogg. As someone who came to FDL after the ACA vote, i never understood the love of Tbogg. Humorless and unfunny “satire”
Don’t think Jon is in the tank as an Obot. The law is terrible but it does provide help for some. Not nearly enough to accomplish health care outcomes at the brutally high political cost
Jon explores those nuances. He is keeping the law in front of us where the other presstitutes hope no one brings it up
I think we owe Jon a debt of gratitude for his regular ACA stories.
She’s got the Nascar vote secured
Black folks in competitive states gonna stand in line for 8 hours in the rain to pull the Diebold slot machine lever for Hillary?
You can smell the desperation over at the Zombiecrat Lemming circle jerk that is Moo-ve On and Adam Green’s progressive group. The Lesser of Two Evil Brigades are hoping like a 5 year old waiting for Santa Claus that Republican Liz Warren runs bc they know the uphill battle they have if forced to Shill for Hill. A candidate more servile to wall Street and much more of a Necon than even the troglodyte that Obama proved himself to be
Dont you think that deep down the Dems hope to do what they can’t? Undo Obamacare legally as opposed to legislatively?
The cost of the ACA to the Dems
2012 +8 (showing Obama’s easy defeat of Romney had short coattails)
2014 – 12
Net loss -68
2010 – 6
Net loss -13
Things haven’t been this bad for the Donkeys since 1928
No change in leadership, so why expect 2016 to be much different. 10-20 % premium increases and the uptick in the mandate penalty tax will just be a constant reminder of the continuing negative effects of the law
Schumer and Harkin have badmouthed the law. Harkin doesnt matter but would Schumer vote to repeal it? Of course not
Otherwise, just shut the fock up Dems and reap the consequences of a law that is hated and does nothing to bend any cost curves
That article i posted above shows that any energy savings by the recent gasoline price drop has to plug the hole in Obamacare sticker shock
Every year it is a reminder, late Sept. Around election season, on the real costs to Joe Sixpack and Sally Housecoat
Fail Mary. Buh bye!
South is gone. Southwest and Mountain West are gone or going. Wait til it happens when the Midwest starts ditching the Dem Party: Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania.
Lesser of Two Evils will be the mechanism the Shrillary Levianthan gets hoisted by its own Petard. How apropos!
Before I ditched the Obots at the Obama Channel (MS DNC), Sanders would bloviate on the programs but always come down that he supports the President. Alright you phony, that makes you a Democrat. Not a Socialist or whatever. Don’t waste my time. Maybe Schweitzer from Montana (a total oil whore, but aren’t they all) [...]
FOCK the Democratic Party. Maybe it please go the way of the Whigs. Sooner rather than later.
Natty Rebel commented on the blog post Little Change in Public Satisfaction with their Personal Healthcare Costs
Also from Erik the Obot:
Barack Obama is a goddamn disgrace
Natty Rebel commented on the blog post Wyoming Residents Not Ready for Marijuana Legalization
I am hoping the West runs the table in 2016: Hawaii, Collie-fornya, New Mex and maybe libertarian Montana and Arizona
That would leave only the Mormon Triangle states: Utah, Idaho and Wyoming
4 down, 46 to go!
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