• And yet, regarding introductions and potential conflicts, whatever host has Howard Dean appear must always essentially recite his last three paystubs and contracts aloud, leading to some embarrassment on both sides.

  • Returning to dakine’s point earlier — and echoing that I have also not read your book — the leadoff three hours are hosting by The Coffee Twins, one of whom actually keynoted Mitt Romney’s 2014 Funders’ Event last month, where he said, essentially, “you guys need to get Mitt to run again.” I can’t see any of the “liberal” evening or even dayside anchors (although Sharpton gets a pass, I suppose, given his previous activism and candidacies) being allowed to be so nakedly partisan (presumably for pay).

    With the awful prospect that JoeandMika may take over MTP from Stretch Gregory, do you think there’s any possibility of making MSNBC all-liberal-all-the-time, or will they find some willing Establishment GOPs to helm those day-making three hours?

  • I was reading your book just as those five names were revealed in the swap. I am looking forward to hearing more about those men, and your understanding of their having been imprisoned in Gitmo. I don’t believe anything anyone in our government says about them, obviously.

  • Thank you for writing this extraordinary book. It’s the best I’ve read in its descriptions of the effects of the decades-long War On Afghanistan, waged by superpowers and internal agents as well. As much as I enjoyed it for the direct, human aspect of what happens to people who live in areas we determine are War Zones, it gave me tremendous despair. I cannot think how anyone can read this book and believe American misadventures in foreign lands are a good idea going forward.

    We cannot seem to accomplish anything positive, despite the propaganda about schools, women’s rights, and democracy. I want us to stop. I hope your book has a wide audience, much wider than the military histories written to glorify the men atop our MIC. Thanks for all your hard work. It certainly changed my view. Whether we have any role in the future in Afghanistan based on our having ruined so many lives there, we certainly don’t have any business applying this flawed model of warfare in other places.

  • How convenient it was for the Manning prosecutors when OBL’s killers discovered Wikileaks on his laptop, with him not around to answer any questions about when and how the material appeared there.

  • Thank you for this excellent contribution to the history of the Manning case. I followed it quite regularly, through Kevin’s writing and that of others, but for me what was missing was the visual aspect. You’ve captured that so well in your book: the stern and uncompromising visage of the government, in all its aspects (prosecution, witnesses and judge) as well as the upstanding integrity and incredible vulnerability of Manning and the defense team.

    I do wonder what our cultural descendants will imagine we were up to regarding capturing real-time images of such incredibly important trials as Jodi Arias, TotMom and O.J. while leaving to live-bloggers and illustrators the record-keeping of less historically relevant events such as that at Fort Meade and in Vaughn Walker’s SF courtroom.

    Chelsea Manning will be viewed by history as an heroic figure who changed the relationship of the governed to our war-making apparatus, or there will be no history worth reading about in the future. Your addition to the canon is most welcome for those of us who hope for change and understanding by a public that fully comprehends her actions, and who hope for the end of a state acting illegally in our names.

  • Teddy Partridge commented on the blog post FDL Movie Night: Before You Know It

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    Thanks for making this wonderful movie — I’m really looking forward to watching it.

    I’m a big fan of SAGE; I made a presentation to their national conference over a decade ago, about our local annual event in SF for senior men called “Geezers’ Ball.” Like so many other words then and nowadays, it was controversial, more among the PC Word Police than among the audience we were trying to reach. Most men said, when asked by the local gay paper what they thought about the controversy, “But I *am* a Geezer!” And we had many self-identified Crones attend as well!

    This is an invisible and underserved community in the LGBT world, with our emphasis on youth and beauty it’s not likely to change without competent and constructive efforts like your film. Thank you!

  • Muchof what you wrote about sex workers resonated with me because I had just read a Book Salon selection we talked about here recently (“Playing the Whore”). You, and the author of that book, both approached exploitation of labor through different lenses, but it made sense to include that section in your book: we’re all used by someone for something. Our “consent” matters less and less.

  • I really thought this book was an extraordinary work of writing. Thanks for it. I hope it will get read widely; in fact, an effort to send one to every Congresscritter would be terrific.

  • Thanks to all involved, another great Book Salon!

    (AC: “Afternoon Delight” arrived yesterday from Netflix!)

  • Do paid porn performers regard those who produce amateur porn for viewing on the internet as scabs, I wonder?

  • Well, here in America we don’t permit criminals to make laws!
    /the screeching moralists

    To which I’d reply, “Of course not, only the native criminal class can make laws: Congress and state legislators.”

  • In the current F/X teevee version of Fargo, the widow Hess bemoans being brought to “the freezing Yukon” as a Las Vegas stripper to become a brutal man’s trophy wife. I thought this week’s portrayal of her contrasting views of the two ways to make money was almost unique in basic cable: she hates being mother to “those monsters” (her gigantic and brutal sons) and hated her late husband. I don’t think her fondness for the work she did, briefly, in Vegas is simply nostalgia for her youth. This is a person who was good and happy as a stripper and is miserable now, having been lured away “when I was very stupid” into a life of, really, immense unhappiness.

    You don’t see that on the television machine much.

  • Does sex work need to be legalized in order for workers to have rights? I look at the bifurcation of the pot market in CA and WA, where even banking may finally be possible for dispensaries (even though the bank system is regulated federally and pot’s still illegal federally). For sex workers, is there a way for unions to support organizing efforts, and politicians to embrace sex worker labor rights, while not addressing legalization/decriminalization of sex work?

    Or must the two be linked? The international emphasis — greatly needed — on trafficking makes me wonder whether efforts to make women their own wholly-owned subsidiaries for sex work can succeed.

  • Thank you for this great book. I really liked reading it, and I learned a lot.

    Two things stood out for me: the “thanks, ladies, great job, but we’ll handle things from here” attitude of feminists/laborists who wanted to “help” sex workers in their organizing. And then the newcomers would push out the start-up organizers (“Well, we can’t have *criminals* speaking at our conferences on this topic, can we?”)

    The other aspect I can’t shake is that so much of service work has adopted the “Smile and Love Your Work” expectation of sex work. Baristas get complaints from customers if they are taken to be brusque or short. Every store clerk is expected to treat each customers’ needs as uniquely exciting. Just as all hookers must be happy, all bagboys must smize. I hope this builds some bridges in the workers’ rights movement, because our overlords’ wanting cheerful serfs is part of what makes all work hard nowadays.

    (Great intro, Antonia; so glad to see you back!)

  • I don’t think people today realize quite how pervasive drinking (whiskey, and later beer) was in America at the time. Here in Portland, we have almost 100 public water fountains, called Benson Bubblers, installed by Mr Benson, a mill-owner in the 19th century who got tired of his workmen coming in from lunch drunk on beer. Apparently, you had to buy beer to belly up to the very cheap, or even free, lunch buffets at the time. To stay long enough to eat lunch, workmen had to buy (and obviously, then, drink) several beers. This led to much afternoon injury, and probably damage and loss, at the mill.

    Mr Benson’s workmen told him there was simply nowhere to get a glass of water, so he installed Bubblers at every other corner throughout downtown. It really speaks of a different time, when beer was considered a beverage one drank with a meal in the middle of the day, and then when back to dangerous mill work intoxicated.

  • This is fascinating. As the son of a St Louisan who speaks often of the Busch’s role in their team’s ownership, I had always simply thought the Cardinals were a Busch enterprise from the start. Incredible that the team actually began as a way to promote beer, but not Gussie Busch’s brand! When did this other colorful fellow relinquish ownership, and did the Busches see hope in his beer-selling success with baseball?

  • Not just this, of course:

    “Why would you stop this? Everyone wants this!”

    … but also: none wants to be the politician who didn’t buy the goodie that might have Protected us from the next big attack (despite BushCo having got off scot-free for ignoring the warnings about 9/11).

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