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  • thatvisionthing commented on the blog post The Roundup for May 25, 2012

    2012-05-26 00:42:29View | Delete

    wikipedia: “Little Boxes” is a song written by Malvina Reynolds in 1962, which became a hit for her friend Pete Seeger in 1963.

    Thanks, Fatster, I never heard of Malvina Reynolds! When we were kids this is like the first song I remember us trying to learn all the lyrics to. My sisters and I sang it in the car. Wait, Johnny Jingo was 1962… and Pineapple Princess was… 1960, really? Small world, big car, long time ago. Hard to believe those were radio songs then, they sound like children’s records. Old friends — haven’t heard any of them in forever, what a trip! (The Jackie Look!) And then the world changed overnight.

  • Over at the FDL News tab, David Dayen has a Wells Fargo story, going from North Carolina (man commits suicide when Wells Fargo fraudulently forecloses) to California:

    Activists Still Come Together for Foreclosure Victims Now Oriane Rousseau is suing Wells Fargo, and she’s getting support from a group of community activists in California. The Alliance [...]

  • thatvisionthing commented on the blog post The Roundup for May 25, 2012

    2012-05-25 22:04:27View | Delete

    But CAN you be 278% underwater? That doesn’t seem possible. But when a house is worth 36% of the selling price, is it then 64% underwater? I am wishing for one of those government yellow tags, like the ones that come with refrigerators, to tell you what your equity performance is historically likely to be. If you buy a KB Home, you will be 64% underwater or have walked away and lost everything in 5-10 years, something like that.

    In terms of ubetchaiam’s city planning, a good question to ask would be, are they studying to see how their prior assumptions worked out? In our case, I am really curious what the county’s accounting looks like. Maybe they’re still ahead, or maybe they aren’t looking back because whatever’s behind them they need more short-term developer dollars now, and it’s always now? I think one reason local governments like developer projects is because they’re all HOAs now, which means the public govt collects property taxes but is off the hook for providing municipal services.

    Remember that Pete Seeger song Little Boxes? “Little boxes on the hillside, little boxes made of ticky tacky, little boxes, little boxes, little boxes, all the same. There’s a green one and a pink one and a blue one and a yellow one and they’re all made out of ticky tacky and they all look just the same.” Those were the good old days, who knew? Now there’s tan ones and there’s beige ones and there’s gray ones and there’s khaki ones.

  • thatvisionthing commented on the blog post The Roundup for May 25, 2012

    2012-05-25 18:41:19View | Delete

    ❖If you want to know what percentage of houses in your ZIP are underwater, just go here.

    Wow, 68% homes underwater in my California zip code — highest 5% in US! Hey Kamala!

    Now what would really be interesting would be a correlation by builder and/or mortgage company — like in my area, or state, how many KB Home/Countrywide homes are underwater — or by title, how many MERS homes are underwater? We had a dense major use development project approved here that was totally out of character with our backcountry community, and then the county would not even enforce the environmental protection rules in their own permit. Somehow they lost the oak trees as well as the requirements for drought-tolerant landscaping. Could not, would not see them. For what? I recently heard of one of the KB houses that originally sold new for around $250,000 in 2005 and then sat empty for a long time, just resold for less than $90,000. I believe that all of the houses in that development must be underwater now or have been at some point.

    Also not sure if it means 68% of all of us are underwater by some unspecified high or low amount, or if it means all of us together are on average 68% (highly) underwater. (It says “This map from Zillow shows the proportion of homes with negative equity nationwide,” and then when you mouse over an area it says “amount owed as percentage of home value.”) Do you divide 250/90 (2.78 or 278% underwater?) or 90/250 (0.36 or 36% underwater?)? Ugh, math.

    Big Wave by Jenny and Johnny –

    Living your life in the gray
    Is the new American way
    We’re spending what we haven’t made…

    ..and the books all fried
    You are bankrupted because
    all the loans you take

    Big wave
    Big wave
    It’s gonna hit you with a big wave

    – she talks about the bobcats taking over a failed development in Lake Elsinore – 2008 news story

  • thatvisionthing commented on the diary post Occupy the Justice System: A Proposal by J.E. Mullany.

    2012-05-23 15:54:00View | Delete

    I just want to add one thought, about the infraction category of crime that allows punishment/”justice” to be determined by government without a jury. That’s why I was sorry to see marijuana moved into that category in California. Because now juries can’t overturn it like they did Prohibition, and it’s a cash cow for government, which [...]

  • thatvisionthing commented on the diary post Occupy the Justice System: A Proposal by J.E. Mullany.

    2012-05-23 15:26:47View | Delete

    There’s an organization called FIJA, Fully Informed Jurors Association I think — and I’m sure I can trace a lot of what I’ve learned to them, though it was my experience in amazingly f**ked up traffic court and then later in jury selection that gave me the impetus to start really looking and thinking. How [...]

  • thatvisionthing commented on the diary post Occupy the Justice System: A Proposal by J.E. Mullany.

    2012-05-23 12:00:17View | Delete

    finishing

    Also, directly to your point (and @3), I’ll pull this out — you should know that the guys who wrote The Wire wrote an op-ed for Time Magazine and said this:
    If asked to serve on a jury deliberating a violation of state or federal drug laws, we will vote to acquit, regardless of the evidence presented. Save [...]

  • thatvisionthing commented on the diary post Occupy the Justice System: A Proposal by J.E. Mullany.

    2012-05-23 11:54:36View | Delete

    continuing

    AND, if you’re Occupying, you might want to mic check this at every chance:
    It is presumed, that juries are the best judges of facts; it is, on the other hand, presumed that courts are the best judges of law. But still both objects are within your power of decision… you have a right to [...]

  • thatvisionthing commented on the diary post Occupy the Justice System: A Proposal by J.E. Mullany.

    2012-05-23 11:50:55View | Delete

    continuing

    And this I think is so important:
    There is no doubt that jury nullification was one of the rights and powers that the people were exercising in 1791 when the Bill of Rights of the United States Constitution was adopted. As legal historian Lawrence Friedman has written (PDF):
    In American legal theory, jury-power was enormous, and subject [...]

  • thatvisionthing commented on the diary post Occupy the Justice System: A Proposal by J.E. Mullany.

    2012-05-23 11:36:18View | Delete
  • thatvisionthing commented on the diary post Occupy the Justice System: A Proposal by J.E. Mullany.

    2012-05-23 11:32:24View | Delete

    continuing

    Yes WE could act – Juries helped end Prohibition
    …check out the diary poll above. At the time I’m writing this comment , the results are 93% for legalizing marijuana, 6% against (and it might even be higher if the part about Barack Obama doing it were taken out and the question was simply should marijuana [...]

  • thatvisionthing commented on the diary post Occupy the Justice System: A Proposal by J.E. Mullany.

    2012-05-23 11:26:04View | Delete

    continuing

    Do a diary on John Peter Zenger – has a semi-dead link to an old ebay postcard auction that I can still trace to here (hopefully this link will work, scroll down and click on pc to enlarge it): 1909 postcard – public newspaper burning – Zenger – NYC

  • thatvisionthing commented on the diary post Occupy the Justice System: A Proposal by J.E. Mullany.

    2012-05-23 11:20:41View | Delete
  • thatvisionthing commented on the diary post Occupy the Justice System: A Proposal by J.E. Mullany.

    2012-05-23 11:18:34View | Delete

    continuing

    Anyway, as I said, I’ve written it all before. Here are some links:

    The mechanics of injustice – lesson I won’t forget
    E Pleb Neesta, Sparf

  • thatvisionthing commented on the diary post Occupy the Justice System: A Proposal by J.E. Mullany.

    2012-05-23 11:13:50View | Delete

    Well, no word from a moderator, and while I can still see my comment stuck in moderation, I will try breaking it up and throwing it at the wall again and see what sticks. Starting here:

    Your comment is awaiting moderation. This is something I’ve been writing comments about for years. And I’m still learning things, [...]

  • thatvisionthing commented on the diary post Occupy the Justice System: A Proposal by J.E. Mullany.

    2012-05-23 02:18:39View | Delete

    And still my comment that I spent all that effort to write and source sits awaiting moderation. Would appreciate a moderator’s attention or explanation of what the problem is.

  • thatvisionthing commented on the diary post Occupy the Justice System: A Proposal by J.E. Mullany.

    2012-05-22 16:07:00View | Delete

    Hi J.E., I left a long, researched comment for you here earlier (hours ago) but it seems to be stuck in moderation. I wonder what’s up with that, it was a decent comment. Here’s another thought for you, as I step away. Your photo. Occupy. Makes me think of this, from V for Vendetta, V’s [...]

  • I can’t stand him. I’d buy one. Put the bobblehead on my dash. Alas for an entrepreneur.

  • thatvisionthing commented on the diary post Occupy the Justice System. A Proposal by J.E. Mullany.

    2012-05-22 10:52:30View | Delete

    What state are you in? Here in California, the crimes you name are pretty much a whole separate category called “infraction” for which juries are no longer possible (thanks Gov. Reagan!). Providers, I don’t know exactly where that’s at now. State law conflicts with federal law. Here’s what happened a few years ago when a [...]

  • cf the Matt Stoller article I linked to above:

    Bill Clinton’s $80 Million Payday, or Why Politicians Don’t Care That Much About Reelection

    Elections in many ways are just like regular season games in basketball – they are worth winning, but it’s not worth risking an injury. The reason Obama won’t prosecute bankers, or run anything but a very mild sort of populism, is because he’s not really talking to voters. He just wants to be slightly more appealing than Romney. He’s really talking to the people who made Bill and Hillary Clinton a very wealthy couple, his future prospective clients. We don’t call it bribery, but that’s what it is.

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