• And yes, I realize that none of that would have gotten past the House, but all of it would have pushed the discussion closer to center from the batshit ultra right conservative bullshit our media now calls ‘moderate’.

  • The House has taken multiple actions to either repeal or defund ACA.
    This was the list as of March of this year:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/03/21/the-house-has-voted-54-times-in-four-years-on-obamacare-heres-the-full-list/

    Where I agree with you is that while the House was doing that, the Senate should have been taking vote after vote on issues fixing or improving funding for ACA. OVER AND OVER AND OVER. Or better yet, voting on Medicare for All. Not to mention making the Post Office a bank and making their requirement to fund their pension obligations 75 years out the requirement for every corporation in America, oh and repealing all the tax credits for 401ks for employers and increasing any for pension funds. But then that would mean standing up and being counted for your base. Something Democrats feel no need to do.

  • thurbers commented on the blog post The Roundup for July 22nd, 2014

    2014-07-23 10:56:40View | Delete

    Well, I’m glad you took the time to attempt to educate me on the evils of various reproductive rights groups. Now tell me again what that has to do with pointing out that if you want children and not some genetic legacy adoption is a pathway to that. IOW, your response had little to do with what I was talking about.

    Which is ironic, since you jumped all over the person who pointed out that your post essentially indicated that this history should render any thought of reproductive rights moot since you didn’t say that.

  • thurbers commented on the blog post The Roundup for July 22nd, 2014

    2014-07-23 10:48:08View | Delete

    Okay, I’m all for your unequal pay!

  • thurbers commented on the blog post The Roundup for July 22nd, 2014

    2014-07-23 06:17:45View | Delete

    I’m actually quite fond of the idea of Argentina declaring the hedge fund owners terrorists and putting out trading cards naming and identifying them. Along with letting everyone in Argentina know what these vultures want to take from them.

    Even without a direct bounty, I’m pretty sure the response would temper their avarice.

  • thurbers commented on the blog post The Roundup for July 22nd, 2014

    2014-07-23 06:14:34View | Delete

    I’ll never understand people who think they want children, but are fixated on the genetics. You want a child adopt one, but then it would be about being a parent. Not some ego trip about immortality, which is crap anyway.

    It would be great if it were about equal pay and opportunity, but just as the whines about children are so often not about having children, the fight about reproductive rights is not about abortion or children either, it is about making sure the women are some subservient creatures with less opportunity because they can be made to interrupt their lives and their plan with a pregnancy.

    When men have to accept being questioned about who will care for their children, and who they expect to cover their workload during their pregnancy, and they know they will have to work eight hours a day on top of their paid job to care for those children, not to mention retire with 40% less money then women because they have children….well then I’ll take their whining for reproductive rights as something more then another ass backward means of pretending women have more rights then they do.

  • Hey, this is all about a corrupted system deciding which corrupted system remains in place.
    I despise ACA, I hated it when Dole suggested it, I thought it was mess when Romney enacted it in Massachusetts.
    But this is about its future being deciding by a Court that has shown in the last few years it has little or no conscience, humanity, legal ethics, or even commonsense. To recognize that the final decision on this comes down to whom they are the puppets of that day is not a support of the bill. It is just a recognition of the reality of the situation, same as knowing that most of the people behind this turd have NO interest in actual health care and designed a system to make sure that America continues to pay a lot of money for very little.

  • Doesn’t matter what the lawyers say, or the courts say until the final act. And we all know what that is. And we also know it doesn’t even matter what the law says, precedence, etc. Because anymore that final act is no more about law and common sense then the average Limbaugh rant.

    I cannot wait until John Roberts has to twist himself into knots to make the Chamber and Insurance companies happy again. I’m sure he was hoping the last couple were it.

    Mind you, if for some reason the Chamber abandons the insurance companies on this, Obama will lose the one item on his rather questionable legacy. But I’m thinking we can count on them, as the subsidies is their way of passing any responsibility for their employees onto the public.

    Nope the only real question is whether this comes up in October or next spring.

  • Jon, please, just say straight out what I’ve said all along. ACA is the Swiss plan with everything that makes the Swiss plan work stripped out of it. That includes precise government regulation regarding what is in plans, network control and the one that is going to hit big this fall premium increase controls. (And that doesn’t even consider the price controls that we do not have.)

    Only people who aren’t really paying attention think this turkey is ever going to fly, or that Congress will fix it enough to get it off the ground even by putting on a plane of government subsidies for 9/10ths of the population. Because the goal of this thing was never to actually provide health care, it was to support insurance companies and big pharma and private medical and give Barack Obama a win that the Clintons didn’t have. The fact that it is a huge theft of public money and a mandated legalized fleecing of the public itself is pretty much just icing on the cake.

  • I’m sure the insurance companies who wrote the law allowed that ONLY because it is a net win for them. Childbirth is much more expensive then birth control.

    Most other drugs are not so clear cut the cheaper option.

  • thurbers commented on the diary post Pull Up a Chair: Fantasy Dinner Guests by Elliott.

    2014-07-19 05:14:36View | Delete

    Julia was one of my first thoughts as well.

    I’d probably go with Julia, Dorothy Parker, David Niven, Molly Ivins, Lorenz Hart, Oscar Levant, Noel Coward and Gertrude Lawrence, Will Rogers, with the last three slots TBD.

  • thurbers commented on the diary post “Thank you for your service.” At Last, a Truthful Response. by Ohio Barbarian.

    2014-07-17 04:35:01View | Delete

    We have ill used our military for a very long time. And not just the Dick Cheney’s of our political system who directly benefit. Think also the hacks who worry more about their reelection campaigns and the back door benefits that come from supporting the moneyed interests who want these things. I will thank you [...]

  • thurbers commented on the blog post Senator Cory Booker Caught Up In Newark Watershed Scandal

    2014-07-16 16:14:14View | Delete

    Hey, Cuomo is right there with them. it isn’t just the state, it is the area and the money to be made here.

    And I’m betting the blackmail material on him is a mile wide and just as high.

  • Oh and seeing peterboy’s comment please add to my first paragraph, require all exchange plans to have a network that is minimum 3/4 the size of their largest non-exchange network. In order to make sure that ALL insured parties can find a doctor.

  • Here’s an idea, instead of choosing a plan for the rubes, how about the government make sure that every bronze plan contains EXACTLY same services. Same with Silver, gold, platinum. That every plan on the exchange have to provide access to a comprehensive list of providers in their network that can be searched. And then let the rubes select based on the financials.

    The problem with the idea that you could decide from the exchange itself is that it was NOT designed to provide you with the information you needed in order to pick a plan. And frankly that was intentional. You can say that most people aren’t smart enough, but they are. If you put into plain English what your company must provide regarding health care, then they might have to provide that without option. So instead you got a bunch of numbers with little or no real information attached – including which doctors and hospitals were in the network. At least here in NY.

    The truth is that the insurance companies wrote the bill. And they controlled the Department that got to regulate them regarding implementation of that bill. Any attempt to make the exchanges just decide for you, no matter the intention of those selling that idea, will end up not being about getting the rubes the best plan for them, but about making sure they cost all insurance companies as little as possible.

  • thurbers commented on the blog post Demagoguing Feminism for Fun and Profit

    2014-07-15 10:02:17View | Delete

    Sad to say, it isn’t just Texas. I know a few NY Dems you could say the same thing about.

  • thurbers commented on the blog post Demagoguing Feminism for Fun and Profit

    2014-07-15 09:43:48View | Delete

    Oh, and for the record, I wouldn’t trust Campbell Brown to feed my imaginary fish, much decide what is right for an actual child. I’d be afraid they would be sold to the highest bidder to replace a highly paid custodian, in between being trotted out for photo ops with Brown about her heroic actions for children.

  • thurbers commented on the blog post Demagoguing Feminism for Fun and Profit

    2014-07-15 09:37:09View | Delete

    Being an actual liberal is pretty much a requirement for racist women haters.

    Unless and until you recognize that the best people are the corporations run by white men who were born on third base, you have not found religion, set aside your prejudices and reached enlightment.

  • thurbers commented on the diary post Where’s Darrell Issa on Illegal Trade Deals? by Synoia.

    2014-07-15 07:55:03View | Delete

    Oh, please. Why ask a silly question. Can’t have an investigation on something important that might actually be to the benefit of the majority of the US population, can we. It isn’t as if Darryl isn’t about the same things that are the driving force for these “treaties”. I mean people suddenly get how these [...]

  • thurbers commented on the diary post Over Easy: Monday Science by BoxTurtle.

    2014-07-14 05:58:29View | Delete

    I might have chosen to live in one of the top target sites for a nuclear weapons strike, I just didn’t take into consideration the not-so-slow destruction of the nuclear power industry. Oh, well, best laid plans of the paranoid and all that… That kitten is terrifying! I can see how a pair of those [...]

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