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zenichi commented on the diary post A Note About Discussions And Playing Devil’s Advocate by Jim Moss.
@ storyofo: I think you’re parsing where it’s not necessary. I’m saying that a person who is POLITICALLY pro-choice can be PERSONALLY anti-abortion and still be considered a progressive. Everything a human being does is a choice: whether the choice is good, beneficial, etc. should and must be debated and discussed. And Athena’s point below [...]
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zenichi commented on the diary post A Note About Discussions And Playing Devil’s Advocate by Jim Moss.
@ Larue: You continue to make my point: Orthodoxy tests are counterproductive in building a movement. This is well-documented with the so-called Tea Party movement that has damaged the Republican party with its brand of purity tests (whether this is a good or a bad thing is most certainly a matter of perspective). As to [...]
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zenichi commented on the diary post A Note About Discussions And Playing Devil’s Advocate by Jim Moss.
@ Zenostoa: Thank you. Well put!
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zenichi commented on the diary post A Note About Discussions And Playing Devil’s Advocate by Jim Moss.
@ Larue: Really? Really? You’re going to just make my point for me? Being against abortion (for the same reasons that I’m against poverty, war, rape, and violence in general, by the way) earns me a ticket out of the progressive camp? Have you stopped to wonder at the effect of such a statement, friend? [...]
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zenichi commented on the diary post A Note About Discussions And Playing Devil’s Advocate by Jim Moss.
@ lefttown: Wow. Judgemental much? How do you go from someone positing an argument to the conclusion that they are not serious about their advocacy? Must one waste time (yes, waste time) at rallies rather than build consensus through conversation in order to be “serious?” And do, please, tell me how chaining oneself to a [...]
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zenichi commented on the diary post A Note About Discussions And Playing Devil’s Advocate by Jim Moss.
I think this notion of being subject to some kind of progressive orthodoxy is inane. What happened to the notion of being a freethinker? Am I out of the “progressive” club because I’m a strong proponent of firearms ownership? Or because I oppose abortion (though I would not go so far as to outlaw it)? [...]
