I’m not a Green Party member, but generally approve of 3rd party organizing, and would like to see secondary political players, in the US, give a better account of themselves.
During the Presidential election of 2012, I wrote a handful of diaries critical of the GP in general, and the Jill Stein campaign, in particular. I stand by those diaries.
However, I’m happy to report that the Green Party is not standing still, as is made clear by (my frankly cursory) examination of some links that jeffroby sent me. I have encouraged jeffroby, who is a Green Party member, to blog about their organizational efforts, especially their recruiting efforts; hopefully, this diary will give him, other Greens, and 3rd party sympathizers something useful to discuss.
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from jeffroby, via email:
http://www.gp.org/committees/campaign/index.php
http://www.gp.org/committees/campaign/documents/GP_and_Elections.pdf
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Some good stuff there. Especially this: http://www.gp.org/committees/campaign/documents/GP_and_Elections.pdf
I suggest you blog about it, even if in a cursory manner, to keep the GP in the blogosphere’s collective mind, but more importantly to help the blogosphere tilt more towards organization (or, more likely in the short run, just information about organization efforts; what worked, what didnt’, etc.). The blogosphere is good on conveying information and analysis, but most of it isn’t something that you can do anything about, in the sense of a systemic response.
As an analogy, Gary Null often mentions that, by the time you know about the symptoms of a disease, the disease will have typically long since begun. Ergo, he cautions patience in attempting to reverse a disease process. However, most if not all of his disease-reversing protocols involve detoxification and nutrients that are required by the whole body.
Via this analogy, I am underscoring the current shortcoming of the unevolved political blogosphere, which is hardly what I would call an activist platform, and not really moving in that direction. (Aside from obvious stuff that’s been around quite a while. Appeals to sign petitions, etc.) It’s not even an activist platform for compromised, D/R politically activism (i.e., acceptable to the D’s and R’s, because the insiders are confident that they can manage/Veal Pen such activists.) So, of course, it can’t be an activist platform for aggressive reformers, who will readily throw D’s and R’s under the bus (permanently in the case of ‘full time’ Greens).
In fact, the political blogosphere may be more of a drag on activism, than even a modicum of help. There is research that shows that allowing people to talk about labor problems predisposes them to adapt, rather than fight for their demands.
I think reform oriented people are little demoralized (Tea Parties as well, I have read). People may not want to think about matters related to electoral politics, but waiting until election season means that, given the highly compromised state of our political system, they have waited too long, and either aren’t serious, or else may be on the ignorant side.
This is about as wise as, having suffered your first heart attack (which clearly points to a systemic problem), you say “Well, I’m going to wait until I start having chest pains, again, before I change my diet, exercize, etc.)
I know your last diary didn’t get many comments, but that’s probably partly a function of the electoral letdown and attendant malaise. The election surely didn’t change much.
Some specific comments, mostly criticisms. Please note that I’ve only taken a cursory look. Take the following for what it’s worth:
1) “The CCC is pursuing many different programs and paths to increase the number of Green officeholders nationwide,”
Ah, OK, but for that you need voters. What is the CCC doing to increase registered Green voters? (Plus voters who will commit to voting Green in a general election, so that they can intervene in D and R primaries).
2) the Coordinated Campaign Committee needs to build out their (sub) website. It mostly looks like a wiki.
I’d recommend at least considering a more role-based front page for the CCC. E.g., assuming that CCC will also facilitate individuals who want to recruit a) Green voters b) Green worker bees, especially people who will, themselves, engage in recruiting activity. b) will have different varieties. These ‘roles’ aren’t just for those who have already accepted such roles, but also for those who have not yet realized that they are going to become enthusiastic Green recruiters, campaign workers, or candidates.
So, when you land on the CCC (sub)website, you should have a lot of the real estate taken up by a fork in a digital road. You can get a rough idea as what I’m talking about by looking at: http://www.visualsvn.com/
This company makes 2 main products: one for clients, one for servers.
The GP will have, say, 4 crying needs for role players:
a) recruiters (face-to-face recruiters into GP membership and activities) b) hot button activism (defined below) leaders c) candidates d) campaign supporters
So, devote half the CCC landing page (home page) to these 4 roles
3) the webinar that http://www.gp.org/committees/campaign/index.php is from was not recorded. At the very least, the audio should have been recorded, and posted (you can post audio, with a picture that doesn’t change, on youtube). At the very best, the video (with audio) would be edited, dead space taken out, and then posted at youtube, vimeo, the gp website, etc. Online activists would extract the salient points, and then blog about this in the part of the blogosphere that will permit this.
4) “hot button” activism.
Student debt is killing a lot of young people, and this is on their radar. Social Security is NOT on their radar.
So, let’s say you land on the CCC home page, and say that you are interested in b) hot button activism. Well, it’s a no brainer that you then want to channel web visitors to some area that they’re feeling, to begin with.
Another aspect to this, which I don’t want to even think of (but I’ll leave to you, as homework :-) ), is how should the website handle issue-oriented activists who are looking for allies, but might be persuaded to simultaneously become Greens .
Bruce Dixon has written (at openleft) about his plans for recruitment in Georgia, but we don’t know what became of those efforts.
5) Green New Deal Branding
not a biggie, but Green New Deal subsumes more memes than any given individual is likely to remember. Hence, I would be more inclined to make the Green New Deal a second-class meme, in advertising and header verbiage.
E.g., when recruiting/educating on a college campus, I would bill the event as “Student Debt Forgiveness (a Green New Deal initiative)”. Not “The Green New Deal and Student Debt”.
The New Deal doesn’t carry much emotional draw, for most of the population, including not-so-youngsters like you and me.
6) GP website has poor localization. If I live in FL, near you, and you are doing some Green action, it should show up on my GP web page, automatically. The PDA website has some ‘localization’ via a map on its home page, so maybe you should look that one over. In the case of PDA, selecting your state from the map takes you to an affiliated website, http://www.pdacommunity.org/ . There’s some good stuff, there, also, though I think they could have done better integration of the localized info on their main website.



18 Comments

I don’t intend to comment in this diary. Or if I do, not much. Please address questions to general readers, not to me.
Oh, well, I’ll make 1 additional comments, which I mostly had intended to add.
IMO, hydro-fracking could be a hot button issue, par excellence. Even if the GP wants to stress standard of living issues, moreso, that doesn’t mean that, in areas of the country where hydro-fracking is threatening, it won’t be of more immediate, emotional concern to the public it’s trying to reach.
Jill Stein spoke at an environmental rally in Amherst two weeks ago. About one thousand college students from at least 10 different came colleges out to hear and meet her. (75% of the students were from the 3 colleges in Amherst.)
Well,that’s good that they realize that they just can’t wait until election time to start reaching the public.now is the time to get out & educate the public on what the Green Party is about.
I think it could be possible to market the GP as the party of SS/Medicare to older people, too. Think FDR. Jobs for the young, SS for the old.
I think one useful thing to bring up vis-a-vis the Green party is the importance – because of their strong environmental stance – of being always on the lookout for energy industry stooges trying to ingratiate themselves.
Seems to me that would be an important thing to watch out for.
Pf-f-f-f-t.
I’m capable, and willing, to give well intentioned, strategic advice, to people that I don’t agree with, 100%. That includes the Greens, even though they’ve been duped by the global warming scam. I have not advised the Greens, as an organization, to dump their global warming/climate change mumbo jumbo, because that is not their main problem, and they will have an organizational inertia working against doing so, moreso than other parties. Similarly, I wouldn’t advise Tea Parties to alienate their Christian conservative members by, e.g., embracing evolution as the proper cornerstone of the biological sciences – which it is, in reality, whether people chose to believe it, or not.
The main problem of the Greens is the same problem of any 3rd party. And that is, how to get traction, and to effectively fight against a stacked deck, that has been stacked over many decades, by the D’s and R’s.
The scientific case for the catastrophic AGW continues to fall apart. Whether you like it, or not.
Furthermore, anybody who has read my comments and diaries going back a few months, and has a brain, should be able to figure out that I’m for a rapid escalation of zero carbon, dense technologies that would severely damage the profits of petro-chemical companies.
It is the CO2 climate catastrophists who are on the side of Goldman Sachs and the financial oligarchs.
Good Morning Metamars. You consistently are very “meta”. But I am not going to make any comments about that. I am not going to comment, unless I change my mind.
I changed my mind.
Those climate catastrophists also started the Irak War. They also were responsible for the Oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, and they also caused Fukushima. And they eat kittens and puppies.
Climate Catastrophists! War! Get Some!
Hey, you, Have some empathy here!
Why don’t you try to not sound like a coal industry shill when all you have is pointless industry-backed talking points?
It can’t be easy, y’know…
The Green party alone is never going to be victorious. There has to be a grand alliance with others on the left, including liberal Democrats who have been rendered absolutely powerless by today’s Obama-Bill Daley led party. Jill Stein, Rocky Anderson, and the other left candidates should never have run separately–their differences were really minimal.
For inspiration, we must look to the Republicans of the 1850s, who formed a winning coalition and a successful third party (which quickly became a second party) out of a collection of anti-slavery groups, including those from the Whig party, the “second” party of the 1840s.
You are right. Far too many people forget that the Republican Party started out as a third party, and quickly rose to power when the Whigs disintegrated on the slavery issue. It is a good model for the working class and most of the middle class.
Unfortunately, I don’t think we have the time for that to happen. Systemic collapse will happen first.
This is what the NPA is for, isn’t it?
http://www.facebook.com/pages/New-Progressive-Alliance/172365886150915
I mean, it might be too late. Part of me (the super-cynical part) thinks we only really, really got the internet when we did because the “winners” were that confident that we proles were defeated, forever and always and more forevermore.
But maybe, just maybe, Obama didn’t ruin the notion of hope? Maybe there’s a hope that transcends marketing?
So why didn’t Global Warming get mentioned even once during the 2012 presidential debates?
Why is it that Obama (who is owned and operated by the big banks) has done all he can to shut down any sort of any binding limits on emissions?
http://www.obamatheconservative.com/#contents5-1
You claim that the people who want us to take action with regard to climate change are “on the side of Goldman Sachs and the financial oligarchs.” For these meta-martian fantasies to be true, you’d have to believe that people like Jill Stein are the ones most aligned with Big Money, while Obama and the MSM are largely resistant to the influence. Even more, you’d have to believe that the people who are most resistant to Big Money are the republicans.
I don’t think most of the people here at FDL will buy into that kind of garbage.
Gee whiz, I’m capable of giving well-intentioned strategic advice as well.
In this case it’s watch out for industry stooges posing as friends.
And here I thought your motive was only to encourage discussion among people interested in what might come of the Greens. Is the topic of protection from industry shills off limits? Because that would seem like a poor strategic choice.
Well, my additional, strategic advice is to watch out for scientific ignoramuses, on the one hand, posing as friends. They are likely merely emotional tribalists, who can’t think and reason their way out of a paper bag, but have yet more intellectual bovine excrement to hurl at their favorite bugaboos. Which is all the justification they need.
On the other hand, there are those who fully understand the game afoot, and pose as friends, but are actually puppet masters in the employ of financial oligarchs. We cannot even pass off their embrace of pseudo-reality as a function of evolutionary baggage of the human mind. They are consciously deceptive, of no morality, whatsoever.
There’s another type of deceiver, as well, fully conscious that they are deceiving, but not fully aware of the game, afoot. Such people might have, as their real goal, redistribution of income on a global scale, but not comprehend who will be most empowered, in a ‘Federal Reserve’ sort of way.
I’d advise watching out for those types, also.
Your comments have inspired me to post a diary on a ‘hot topic’, viz., as per the recently leaked how poorly the IPCC models are not only doing wrt to temperature, but (even worse) wrt methane. Methane is significant, because the water vapor feedback mechanism, posited by the climate catastrophists, hasn’t worked out for them. (Damn those satellites and weather balloons! Damn them!!) So, they have to rest their hopes for a catastrophe on other factors. Can farting cows and melting tundra save their hope for doom?
Stay tuned…..
Just posted: Is This Any Way to Model a Catastrophe? IPCC Methane Projections Are As Exaggerated As Temperature Projections
Specially for you and the other derailers!
But then what sources would you use in your attempts to cast doubt on climate change science?