Cross-posted at Democratize the Progressive Movement
As it dawns on progressives that health care without a public option is likely to soon pass Congress, there has been some much-needed soul-searching on the left. From a segment on the "progressive divide" on MSNBC’s Countdown to the talk about "pragmatists" vs. idealists" to Glenn Greenwald’s critique of liberals’ negotiating strategy, there has been a great deal of introspection.
Some have gone further in trying to diagnose the challenges facing the progressive movement. Jane Hamsher writes:
"Whatever Barack Obama wants to do will be the farthest left any piece of legislation gets, and if anyone should try to challenge from the left, the unions and the liberal organizations and party blogs would rise up to condemn them and whip them into line — even if it means completely reversing themselves and devolving into total incoherence…
…Interests groups are seeing their memberships dissipate. Blog traffic is dropping. The biggest blow to choice since the passage of the Hyde amendment 35 years ago will go down without any opposition from the choice groups, who are soaking up foundation money while choice as an issue dies the death of the anti-handgun initiatives."
And here is Miles Mogulescu on Huffington Post:
"Progressives need to have a sophisticated and nuanced relationship with elected Democrats. After the 2008 elections, too many progressive organizations demobilized believing their job was simply to take orders from the White House to support Obama’s agenda, whatever it was. That was a mistake.
It’s equally a mistake for progressives to overreact in the opposite direction and think they can abandon electoral politics and do nothing to prevent the Republicans from regaining power. What’s needed is a powerful grassroots progressive movement to force elected officials to do the right thing more often and to counter-balance the power of big money in politics.
The periods of progressive change in American politics, like the Progressive Era, The New Deal, and the Great Society, have come when strong progressive movements have forced elites and elected officials to enact somewhat progressive legislation."
So, Mogilescu is pointing out a problem with progressives’ mindset (we can’t simply take orders from the White House to support Obama’s agenda) and Hamsher is pointing out some structural problems with liberal organizations that share that wrong-headed mindset.
But this critique needs to be taken one step further by asking why progressive organizations – as the major mobilizing tools we have at our disposal – fall into this trap, thereby dividing our movement between "idealists" and "pragmatists."
For some groups, like Organizing for America, the answer is obvious: they’re controlled by the White House and the DNC and will always play the "pragmatists" because by definition they have to support Obama. That means right from the get-go, we’re already at least somewhat divided if any progressive organization stands to the left of OFA.
Other groups, like Democracy for America or Daily Kos, have one visible spokesperson (Howard Dean, Markos Moulitsas), or have staff make mostly top-down decisions that their members are enjoined to carry out (MoveOn). If those individuals or organization staff take a specific position, it is presumed that the groups they represent do likewise. If Jane Hamsher or another high-profile liberal takes an opposing position, there is a presumption that that person represents a separate faction of the left (which is in most cases true).
Unless all of these prominent people can agree, this seems like a recipe for division, right? Yet it doesn’t have to be this way. What is missing here is a process for sorting out where most liberals stand and more importantly, what strategy they want to use to advance their beliefs.
When Richard Trumka speaks for the AFL-CIO, we know that he is speaking on behalf of that federation’s unions, and if he screws up and stops representing their viewpoints, he ultimately has to answer to members who can vote to elect different leadership. There is no similar democratic mechanism in the wider progressive community; we unfortunately have no process by which to speak with one collective voice as a social movement.
What is most troubling is that the more democratic, decentralized and effective organizing conducted by unions is constantly under assault by corporations and is therefore on the wane, while the less effective and sustainable top-down organizing model used by mainstream progressive groups is on the rise.
Progressives may not realize the full extent to which unions carry the water for the movement as a whole, from funding candidates to backing causes to getting out the vote. But it will become increasingly apparent as private sector union membership declines. In 2009, the labor movement suffered a 10% drop in private sector membership due to the recession, a loss of more than 830,000 members, which took them from 7.6% of the private sector workforce to 7.2% in one year, according to the Wall Street Journal. (I don’t think this reflects poorly on unions’ organizing abilities. It is instead a reflection of what happense when corporations direct their fury toward effective progressive groups – see ACORN).
Which means we need to get serious about deciding whether the new top-down organizing model can pick up the slack. I would argue that the top-down infrastructure in place can neither unite progressives nor create an effective groundswell of support for progressive legislation.
We’ve had a good test run with health care, and it appears that liberals were not very successful at controlling the terms of the debate or mobilizing effectively. The reason is because many people simply don’t want to be engaged in organizing efforts over which they have no control. Empowering individual members means giving them a voice and a vote, and promoting people-to-people organizing instead of centrally-controlled email marketing strategies. In short, we need to do what every successful social movement has done by relearning the art of democratic local organizing and authentic empowerment of regular people.
Here is my vision of what’s needed:
- A democratic, decentralized network of local chapters (progressive alliances, progressive councils, etc.) in which individual members vote on leadership, goals, strategies, actions, and recruitment tactics through a clearly-defined structure and process.
- A national umbrella group that provides coordination, assistance and networking support, and that makes decisions based on a voting process that represents the individual chapters.
- A broad-based focus on progressive issues at the federal level – not just local or state concerns – and a fundamental commitment to democratic procedure and organizational growth and effectiveness.
- Concerted efforts by these community-based chapters to reach out to members of other local groups (unions, Sierra Club chapters, community organizations, MoveOn councils, Democratic clubs, etc.) and encourage them to become members of the chapters and take part in the voting process.
- National leadership to encourage the growth of this network and support the concept of democracy within the progressive movement.
- A redirection of some of our resources from advertising and electoral campaigns to building democratic, locally-based, progressive infrastructure.
What’s your vision?
[Please send stories of democratic local organizing from your community to michael.karpman (at) gmail.com or post them - or your vision of the way forward for progressives - in the comments section. And if you agree with this post, please share it where you can.]



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Does this mean we can’t take em out and hang em?
Anywayz.
I’ve thought about this the last couple of months. Obama was the typical bait-and-switch candidate installed by the corporations in the guise of a Dem. People in IL understood that he really didn’t accomplish much during his time in the state senate or as a US senator. “What is his legislative record?” No one could name anything. They did remember a speech or two.
That’s the problem with elective politics. They can run one way and then do a 180 after they win. That’s the risk where the citizens only get to vote on the candidate and not on the issues.
The problem with movements today is the people. Everyone wants to do it from the computer, and not the face-to-face, feet-on-the-ground. Additionally, marches don’t really accomplish anything because the pols will do what they want (see Iraq, Afghanistan, etc). Movements also need a titular leader, someone that people can associate with the movement’s ideas; now we’re back to building a party. Plus movements take an unbelievably long time.
I wonder if it’s better to just go ahead and, regardless of party, regardless of movement, take an idea and implement it. Want single payer health insurance? Build it. Want a progressive business with strong labor values or something like the Mondragon Corporation? Build it.
Eventually, if they’re successful, they’ll catch on and spread, and people will turn away from the current mess. It’s a structural change.
What’s really needed is to make Washington, the money in politics, and big corporations irrelevant.
Interesting take. I think there is some merit to the “build it and they will come” strategy, and I bet there are thousands of co-ops and other great businesses out there that we just don’t hear about on a day-to-day basis. But I also think we can’t give up on policy change. It’s hard to envision a substitute for government’s ability to tax and spend for the common good, or to set laws that restrict predatory behavior by powerful individuals or companies.
I definitely agree that we can’t simply elect candidates and then sit back and relax. If anything, the current moment should prove to us that even a Democratic President and huge Congressional majorities are not sufficient for building a more progressive nation.
What’s infuriating about Obama (at least to me) is that he wasn’t brought to us by the corporations during his campaign. We’re the ones who invested in that campaign and I think he really took his base for granted in a way that has become the norm for Democratic presidents. In my view, the only way to hold these guys accountable for what they promise during their campaigns is through a more robust social movement.
umm you may want to look into exactly how much Wall st actually donated to Obama.
I disagree with the Union as a model mode. The unions are not some pillar of the left and they deserve to die. What did Trumka get for his capitulation? Jack and shit. And yet he doesn’t seem to be in much trouble now does he?
The unions are bringing it on themselves.
Fair point on your first sentence, but I really disagree with the point you make about unions. They might have been sold out by the Administration, but a country without unions would be exponentially less progressive.
That may have been true in the 1800′s, but I don’t see how you make that case anymore sir.
Name me a progressive victory the unions have gotten in the past 10, 20, hell even 30 years.
I’ll wait.
Geez – tough crowd. How about federal and state minimum wage laws, or expanding SCHIP? You’re right that there has been a dearth of really transformative progressive legislation over the past 30 years. But I think the unions have helped hold the line against some of the more terrible things conservatives want to do (e.g., Social Security privatization). They’re also the backbone of good think tanks like the Economic Policy Institute.
The larger point is that if you imagine a progressive movement without the unions, I think it would really be a hollow shell.
The problems is that the unions are just another arm of the Democratic party now. They are no longer independant actors trying for influence.
And as such it is not a model to emulate.
and I don’t see how you can say they “held the line”, do you have any real proof of that?
I realize a lot of people are upset with what they see as capitulation by progressives on this health care bill. But to lump unions in with everyone else misses the fact that those unions do get to vote on new leadership if they think they’re being let down. Maybe the AFL-CIO leadership made a terrible decision in supporting this bill; if so, they’ll find out about it at their next convention.
It’s hard on short notice to muster evidence proving that labor is the muscle behind the entire progressive movement. I think you might want to read Harold Meyerson’s columns in the Washington Post – he writes well about unions. For instance, in this op-ed, he mentions that unions spent $300 million in the 2008 elections. Just to quote briefly from the op-ed:
I realize we disagree on this, but I think progressives could be working more closely with union members in their communities, and would have much to gain in learning how to organize effectively. Did the unions approach this health care debate in the right way? Probably not. But I think they offer much more hope than groups like OFA or MoveOn in terms of how they go about organizing.
Unions exist to serve their members. Not you. Progressive victories have been hard to come by ever since the DEMOCRATS KICKED US OUT OF THE PARTY for NAFTA and corporate money. Whats left of organized labor still supports the Party but the party never returns the favor.
Then that is a failure of organized labor and they deserve what they get for continuing to fund people who won’t help them.
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So an organization that doesn’t care about the masses but only about it’s own..hrmmm that sounds strangely like The current Democratic party.
No thank you.
Sorry about my tone. Lets be friends. I’m not selling unions anyway. I’m saying we need a Labor Party.
Your wrong. In areas of the economy where they still exist check out how much better pay and benefits their memberships get over the non-Union shops. You’ll be shocked. A lot of the anger today being directed against Unions is envy anger. Public service Unions have gotten wonderful deals all over for their members and people who have watched Unions dissolve in the Private sector now stand by and watch as Public service workers retire with great pensions and benefits and they have zip. Unions are needed and more of them . However as a model for a Progressive movement I’m not so sure they’re the one we want for other reasons. Unions have a focus representing their dues paying memberships and Social movements have a much wider and deeper purpose. Our problem is the diffuse nature of a movement in these times. Yes. millions might follow us if we had a coherent message and some power but the power seems to always go to the people that sell out to the people and orgs. with the cash to get them elected and to spread their agenda. The very nature of most leftist orgs. is they aren’t by definition favorites of the money class and therefore our voices are muted even though our views are widely held.
When you say “unions have a focus representing their dues paying memberships,” I think that’s the point. We have a multitude of organizations but we have no mechanism to make sure they represent us as members. The entire concept of membership – including voting power, responsibility, accountability – is completely missing from the progressive movement.
I think we need to bring the local membership organization back, but to have it focus on a broad-based progressive agenda. Obviously there would be a challenge in forging agreement, but I can’t see how people shouting at each other over the Web (e.g., FDL vs. Kos) is superior to having a local democratic process in each community. I really think building stable memberships will make progressives feel like stakeholders in their own movement, as opposed to just bystanders.
Your right of course these dis-embodied blogs are as empty of humanity as they powerless. A real Social movement is built around flesh and blood people meeting and looking each other in the eye and becoming brothers and sisters . These rooms are poor excuses for a real movement. Unions are much more real in every sense or used to be. We’ve dropped the ball and we’ve reached the limits of what these places can do. They are what they are and nothing more. Even the Coffee party is forming because people basically have a need for actual meetings and actual human contact. The rich have their exclusive clubs and social networks that serve the same purpose as Unions for workers. We have nothing.
Well said. Your comment really encapsulates everything I’ve been getting at.
I’m hoping to use future posts over the next few months to lift up examples of democratic local efforts that bring folks together in their communities through real people-to-people organizing on progressive issues.
We can’t build a strong progressive movement solely through a blog or discussion forum – but we can share ideas of what’s working on the ground and what’s not, and we can start learning from each other.
I hope we can all do our best to bring those examples into the discussion to provide some balance to all the posts that point out what’s wrong but don’t attempt to find a way forward to achieve what’s right.
Very good analysis. Other than grand sweeping plans, what can us laypeople do?
Solution is really simple than you think. Use the rules of the system to make it better. Root cause of the problem is campaign contributions from the corporations and the funneling agents which is corporate lobbyists. Campaign Reform will never happen when congress is dependent on this setup and lobbyists will never allow that since they will lose their huge paychecks.
5 Representatives and 1 Senator from a party which does not accept corporate contributions as its charter. I know of one which is GREEN party.
Bluest of Blue districts should get these 5 representatives. One small blue state should elect 1 senator. Door to door campaign is practical, cheap and feasible and will always trump any amount of corporate TV airtime.
These 5 representatives and 1 senator will block bills till they become better and the rest of the two parties will see that public notice they have more options and we now have a race to the top between these two majority parties or else they will cease to be majority parties.
This is a practical and feasible solution. If any of you are residing in a deep blue district this is your chance to clean up the system.
As for me I will vote from now on GREEN party irrespective of the outcome so that my conscience is clear that I am trying to clean system as much as I could for future generations.
rossl – you ask “what can us lay people do”? I’m also a lay person, so I don’t have a perfect answer, but I’ll give it a shot.
First, I think it’s important to raise awareness within the progressive community, so whatever you can do to spread the democratize message would be helpful – in progressive media, social networks, blogs, etc. There is so much resistance to the notion that we can organize democratically and don’t have to rely on professional campaign staff in Washington, D.C., to tell us what to do.
Second, look around in your neighborhood or city to see if there is an authentically grassroots progressive organization that focuses on federal issues. There is often something happening below the radar screen. Make sure they have a clear process for putting voting control in the hands of members. No voting process means it’s ultimately not accountable to those members.
Third, share your perspective with these folks. Explain why you’re there, what you’d like to see the group accomplish, and how you’d like to help the organization grow and become effective. See if they’re reaching out to other individuals and groups in the community (unions, community groups, etc.) to build their membership base.
Fourth, bring your story back to the rest of us here at FDL. We need to hear messages that we can organize effectively outside of the top-down structures that are currently not serving us well. The more progressives hear about the real experiences of those who are participating in democratic local organizing, the more they will be open to getting involved.
Comrade, anything is possible on the drawing board, no? Pitchforks and torches worked for the Frankenstein monster.
Right now, the people have no trust in the politicians and the “government”.
And until we remove the power from the “government”, it will be the same results as the last thirty years.
For instance, no one would vote to fund the military to the tune of $1.5T annually. But the politicians do.
No one would vote to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan. But the politicians do.
No one would vote to give Israel $2T since 1948 so they can pick fights in the Middle East and drag the US into their conflicts. But the politicians do.
No one would vote to give trillions of $$$ in subsidies and tax breaks to companies like Walmart, IBM, and GE instead of funding healthcare and education. But the politicians do.
No one would vote to raise $800M to run for a job that pays $400K year. But the politicians do.
The citizens have no control over the process when even voting is suspect.
The “government” has already discarded the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. It may be time to draft a Declaration of Independence with a new Bill of Rights and a new Constitution and declare a revolution.
So cue Sam Cooke’s tune “Change is Coming”.
There is only grand sweeping plans, haven’t I been saying that? People are too busy calling people snarky and bullshit like that believing you need to be civil otherwise people won’t listen and turn you off.
No, America is seriously immature it wants to hear dirty language, wise-cracks and snarky comments. The Conservatives wanna play in the MUD, you have to play in the MUD too. This is like a Football Game, for real, its down, its dirty, its mean; you wanna get what you want, you’re going to have to put the ball into the backs hands and run off-tackle like you mean it.
Fuck all this nuanced I got a college degree bullshit! Look how fucking dumb Conservatives are, they call you elitist for having a degree and the other dumb grade school educated morons fall right in line and call you elitist as well.
Doing it the NICE way hasn’t worked, it won’t work.
You want my idea? It will sound crazy but I bet it makes more sense than any other plan -
1) Identify the BLUEST States in the Union.
2) Move To That State
3) Mobilize for whatever Progressive idea is most pressing, currently its Single Payer Health Care.
4) Focus on one issue and one issue alone, it worked for the Republicans, they are still talking about abortion, even during the Health Care Debate.
5) If the 20th Century Media doesn’t want to host a debate on National TV, then we band together and we empower channels like PBS, Free Speech TV and Link TV to host REAL debates where REAL questions will get asked.
6) Massive Movements, for example we need to burn Jerry Brown’s feet but at the same time make sure eMeg and iCarly never get close to taking office. We need to do this State by State if we have too. Read the Wrecking Crew.
7) If you wanna waste time on Congress, sure let’s CLEAN HOUSE. Progressives caved, they were asked to caved, understandable. But for every other Corporatist Democrat, OUT YOU GO. Starting with Stupid-pak and Blanche “Wal-Mart” Lincoln. Yes you can name-call so what!
Unions were originally real on the ground. People that got their heads busted picketing and it was “THE PEOPLE”. Now the scabs are in China. Union leaders are not from the ranks, but rich fat cats. Unions-like the DemoRATS do not always have the interests of the people at heart. The problem is money flows ever upward as organizations grow and become sclerotic. I am from Detroit and when I got out of college and started working all my clients were laid off auto workers a’la Roger and me. Where were the unions then???? This was the shot across the bow of the manufacturing sucking sound. How can people expect to sustain pensions with a shrinking base of employees??? Thirty years later this cancer has eaten up the middle class.
Besides Obama-where was the so called Progressive caucus in this debacle of health care reform? You can’t lay this on Kucinich when the others jumped ship. If the entire caucus has held the public option and state opt out as a condition then they would have probably swayed the conversation and fueled their base. Guess I will be saving lots of time and money this election cycle.
One of the stock phrases of Democrats is that it is a “big tent”. They pulled up stakes on the progressives. The tent will collapse.
Republicans kowtow to the base and get Palin. We get called retards.
My slogan for this year: Democratic Party (nothing left)
My new party is the Earthworm Party (take a bunch of shit and make something useful in the end) Seriously.
Platform as follows:
No hands out
Both sexes equally represented
At home in the grassroots
Trying to grow a spine
Used to getting stepped on
Survives when divided
More heart than brain
That is perfect for this earthworm
My latest post here is a different kind of answer to this question, about doing things locally.
Karen – I looked at your latest post, and am interested in hearing more. You say the following:
Can you say more about the structure or process used to organize people? For instance, who gets people together to meet? How does the group or groups make decisions? What has been effective in recruiting and engaging people in the community? Does the community focus on any specific policy issues? What has been effective in strengthening the organization and what hasn’t worked?
Michael:
I’ll try to find out more about the process. Unfortunately, I was more on the sidelines, having had a chronic health condition a good part of that time. However, I was often bending the ear of someone on the inside about the importance of letting artists have a lot of freedom to arrange things. That’s mostly how areas are revitalized, from what I’ve seen. Artists move into undesirable areas and make them desirable.
We have a lot of artists where I live, and I forgot to mention (!) an annual arts festival every fall.
I’ve made myself a note in my email… the one thing I do know is that it all began with winning very local elections: borough council, school board, etc. When I first moved here, Republicans pretty much ran everything. No more.
Thanks, KarenM – looking forward to hearing about any more information you can dig up. What you said about building a progressive community is something that often gets lost, and it’s not something I usually write about in focusing so much on the policy advocacy.
But when we talk about “local progressive infrastructure,” you’re right that it’s not just about organizing. It’s also about all of those other community institutions – independent coffee shops, bookstores, etc. – that bring like-minded people together.
Y’all are forgetting the effect that the Supreme Court’s decision in Citizen’s United will have on campaign financing. Besides, the coup took place long before Obama was “elected.” Wall Street and the MIC run the country.
We on the left are irrelevant.
Agreed. You wrote (honest) what I was just about to write.
Good post. Some thoughtful responding posts.
I’m willing to do whatever I can and am looking for opportunities.
But imo we progressives are hosed. Permanent conservative majority achieved by either buying off the fat cats, scaring the remaining progressives (a la Kucinich) or by indifference (a la a lot of Dems who had passion and gotv for BHO, then immediately stopped paying one whit of attention to what was going on).
Teabaggers have been co-opted on the other side. I have some sympathy (slight) for some of their positions (if they weren’t so d*** racist…), but they’ve been astroturfed and are run by the Big Ins industry.
And so on…
I’m open to any and all suggestions and am looking for options.
Now that corporations are people we should just form a progressive corporation and have it run for office.
But seriously, Wallstreet is going to leave us with no choice but to takeover and fix corporations from the inside in order to fix government.
Personally I’d prefer to leave the corporations as is and just fix Washington but given the Supreme Court’s decision that no longer seems like an option.
I gave up on working “within” the democratic party to instill change after Obama won the primary. It was very refreshing. Democrats aren’t better than Republicans or vice versa. In general, 99% of all politicians are disgusting, morally void people. I’m not pessimistic, only a realist.
My representative (Ken Calvert-R) was re-elected an 8th time despite his stealing a public park for his own profit amongst other things. Heck, he even has a police record for being “serviced” by a drugged out prostitute in his car at 2am and attempting to flea arrest(while he was married). I’ve come to realize that US voters are stupid, easily manipulated and strictly reactionary.
Until there is a military draft, or possibly economic collapse, the US will continue perpetual war. Avoid a draft, and the war machine keeps turning.
Until people start dying in the street there will be mandated health insurance AKA facism. Avoid the stench of death and corporatism/fascism is fixed. Shuffle 30,000 people under the rug and nobody realizes the insurance/health care industry has you in a death grip.
I’ve also recognized that unifying Progressives into a political force is like herding cats. Move-on, DailyKos, DFA if considered progressive are also perfect examples of failure.
Frankly, progressives are too reaction also. Step back from HCR (cause du jour), war, drugs, banks whatever…. figure out the root cause that enables all these political/society failures.
I would love to have a serious debate about issues like capitalism’s corruption of democracy (AKA campaign reform). This is the Goliath that is pulverizing you every step of the way. Its not a level playing field. Seriously, does anyone here think for a second they can defeat a Multi billion dollar industry like health care, a trillion dollar military industrial complex, or multi trillion dollar banking federal reserve?
All at the same time? With two branches of government (Executive & Judiciary) thoroughly in their back pocket? At least 75% of Congress bought and paid for?
Summed it up nicely, and yes, we progressives are missing the boat in a lot of cases; it is like herding cats.
The leftwing blog-o-sphere, which was a powerful force to be reckoned with at one time has, like the Tea Party movement, been co-opted by the corporations – not surprising. I was kind of holding my breath and waiting for that to happen. And: ding, ding, ding… there it is. MoveOn is b.s., Kos is full of it, and here we dfh are: home and hosed and with not many good cards left to beat ‘em at liar’s poker.
I agree that the, in the main, US citizens are just easily manipulated sheep. I know that sounds elitist, but when I watch Republic after Republic get away with all kinds of b.s. with nary a whimper from the sheeple… well, phooey on that. Yet if a Democrat gets busted for something, it’s all: look at that, look at that!!! Trow da bum out now.
Stupid Kabuki show either way. Meaningless frivolities for the gladiators pitted against the lions, not realizing how they’re all about to be lion food.
But one point: people are already dying on the streets (happens all the time), but no one gives a shite… the Republic meme (but supported by Dimorats) is: if that happened to them, then they deserved it. Mainly brought to you by “Prosperity Christianity” (aka they pact with the Devil), which pretty much promotes the notion that if you’re hurting or in trouble, then you deserve it because you’re not “christian” enough. So if some dolt dies on the street: eff them. One less sinner to worry about.
Not sure that there’s much of anything that will wake up the masses in the USA until it’s too late. What’s that old story about frogs being placed in a pot that’s being brought to a slow boil??? We here at FDL are just canaries in the coal mine being ignored or dissed. The people of Troy said Cassandra was mad and ignored her, and look how well that turned out!
I disagree with the “herding cats” charactarization of Progressives. Cats will at least fight back when cornered. The cowardly capitulation I’ve witnessed by nearly all Progressives with any power during the health care, er, health “insurance” reform debate is an insult to my feline friends.
Sharp teeth, claws, confidence, and timing. Until Progressives develop and learn to use these, we will not be taken seriously.
Great post. Thanks for sticking around. I’m a big fan of the Commonweal Institute because they are trying to meet the need of “coordination, assistance and networking support” and recognize the other issues you write about.
And along the lines of “redirection of some of our resources from advertising and electoral campaigns” I’ll quote Barry Kendall the Exec Director
Grouops withing the progressive movement have been too isolated within their single issues without making the connections across the issues and there has been too much focus on short term battles.
Awesome – I think I had heard the name Commonweal Institute but have never gone to their website. I will definitely check them out and see if they’re a good resource.
I’m down with the unions all the way, unions built this country. But their leadership is full of shit, Trumka talks tough to his people and then he caves. I like your posts on this, Micheal, I just don’t currently have much to suggest, HCR has eaten my brain. I do intend to get more involved locally, with the POS’s we have representing us it seems the only thing to do.
America needs what she has never had. A Labor Party. The left is the working class. All over the world people know this by the time they are 10. In the United States even educated people don’t know this simple truth. The left is the working class. So educated middle class liberals must understand that they are not the left. If somebody like Jane would tell y’all you would listen and understand. But I don’t think Jane knows either. The left needs educated middle class liberals to operate the organizational machinery and to teach and inspire the workers and to provide legal assistance and to put up the money to keep the lights on at the meeting hall. They can also provide leadership, Ghandi was a lawyer and MLK was a preacher. But Chavez was a soldier and Lech Walesa was an electrician and Jesus was a carpenter.
A Labor Party could unite Americans across artificial divisions of race and gender. It would be neither Democratic nor Republican so those old antagonisms would be neutralized. It would be a new thing so the sign above the door and atop the letterhead could say WE REFUSE FUCKING CORPORATE MONEY. The by-laws could call for the execution of anyone found taking bribes. The platform would address working class issues like health care, jobs, education, etc. Sound familiar? And the Labor Party would NOT GO TO WAR except in self defense. Did you ever notice? Its the working class that gets killed and maimed in Imperial Warfare.
But best of all, the working class has the power, through solidarity, to totally shut this freeking country down. We could stop everything with a general strike. We could leave the children and old folks home and throw a siege around Washington 20 million strong. And thats the kind of effort that is needed to bring down the Oligarchs. Y’all will never do it without us. Right now Rham and your corporate masters are laughing at you. You should consider all your options.
Seeing how this debate is playing out, I propose that we agree on one thing: union members and the middle class left need to have each other’s backs. We’re in this together, and we’re both getting screwed by corporate-backed politicians.
But we need to choose an organizing model that works. This commenter suggests a third party – a Labor Party. My personal opinion is that our political system is not kind to third parties and we should instead focus on building a better social movement, and that means organizing in a similar way as the unions do. But I know support for this idea of a third party has ebbed and flowed over the years.
Does anyone else out there have other positive visions of what is either working in their communities or what could work in the future?
Comrade, since there a bunch of castaways here from the Dems, the Labor Party sounds like a good idea.
Industrial Workers of the World (aka the Wobblies) is open to all I believe. The proud party of Utah Phillips.
Now your talkin. Thanks Hemingway.
Michael, workingclass and anybody else who cares:
What works – in every community I’ve ever lived in and in which I’ve taken an activist role – is just that: activism. Making contact with local elected officials, local media, neighbors, and others and pushing them to do what is right. (At the moment, here in Greenville, NC, I’m pushing hard for smart growth, for instance.)
One thought I would add to workingclass’s excellent comment is the need not for a Labor party, but a PEOPLE’S party. We’ve never had that in this country, either, and messaging is everything. Calling it “Labor” immediately opens it to charges of communism and the inevitable marginalization at which the Right is so expert.
Some stream-of-consciousness stuff:
I was deeply involved in the Obama campaign here. Over the past few weeks I’ve been thinking that I need to get in touch with some of the people (local people – the eyes of the campaign people put on the ground here had that Stepford glaze, and I’m confident they are convinced he can do – and has done – no wrong).
I worked with a host of strong progressives and that is saying something in this state. I think it is not unreasonable to begin building a new party by seizing on the discontent among those who worked so hard to get this man elected and making them one strong component of a new party.
That being said, I’m not so sure a third party is where we should head. (I warned you, this is stream-of-consciousness stuff.) I think/hope/pray the future of democracy is service-based, where citizens are drafted to serve two-year terms, a la jury duty but charged with government service and held accountable by other drafted citizens with unlimitied investigative latitude.
Of course, now we’re tlaking about changing th Constitution, and we all know the snowball’s-chance-in-hellness of that. So if working within the system is our only option, our options are further reduced to ousting the leadership of the Democratic Party or forming a viable third party.
/stream-of-consciousness
None of which changes the fact that we as ordinary citizens have a much greater degree of sway over our local condition than our national one. Writing letters the the editor, and establishing relationships with councilpeople, commissioners, and municipal officials – not to mention neighbors and coworkers does work. It’s not glamourous, but it’s where true change begins to bubble. We may not see the results of it in our lifetimes, but unless we work toward it, our kids won’t either.
Can you say more about your activism in Greenville, NC? You’re on the right path by talking about the importance of local activism. What I want to know about is the organizing model you use.
For instance, what is the name of your group? How does it make decisions (by vote, by consensus, one leader decides and everyone follows)? How does it recruit? Is there a website where I can learn more? What has been effective and what hasn’t?
This thread is long dead but I want to thank you for the good word anyway. Yeah, Peoples Party is OK with me although sooner or later Americans have to learn that worker does not equal Bolshevik. Just don’t call it the fucking Coffee Party.
I really don’t trust MoveOn or any other group funded by Wallstreet’s limousine liberals. MoveOn is funded by thieves like George Soros.
Sure, we can team up with such people to kick the Bushies out of office but that’s pretty much were the alliance ends.
Try to keep an open mind on Soros. He says that the private sector should supply private needs and the public sector should supply public needs. I think he really wants to help.
That’s like asking me to keep an open mind on murder.
Do you know George Soros’s history?
He spent his formative years working for the Nazi’s, rounding up fellow jews for deportation to concentration camps.
And he hasn’t gotten much better with age. Now he plunders entire countries with his currency speculation.
We may end up “teaming up” with such people on specific issues like kicking Bush out of office but pretending that such people are progressive will only hurt us in the long run.
I know a little about Soros. Not much. But I have read some stuff he has written so I know he acknowledged the virtue of a mixed economy. You won’t hear that from the free trade, free market neo-liberals that are rapidly enslaving us. Also the right hates his guts and so naturally they lie about him all the time. You have said he is a thief. Are you really sure that’s true? You don’t have to trust him with your sister. But if he wants to fund your work I think you should take his money.
The problem is in his actions, not in his words. Which do you consider more important?
Yes, he’s not popular with right wing radio or the FOX News folks but so what? The Fox News types rant about a lot of people, both good and bad.
His conviction in France for insider trading is a matter of public record.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/14/business/worldbusiness/14iht-soros.1974397.html
And you should take a close look at the history of his currency speculation, the big shots don’t seem to get in trouble for this but the effects on target economys is devastating.
Money from people like this comes with strings attached.
Insider trading, currency manipulation, sounds like you are talking about Larry Summers. Anyway, go ahead and hate Soros if that’s what you want to do. You have my blessing.