It is in the vogue among some here lately to claim that this site is terribly prejudiced towards independents, third parties, and certain personalities. We are told that this site is simply a Democratic front, and by extension, that most who were here prior to these worthies is an agent of the much reviled D’s. We are continually informed that those who are not affiliated with the despised D’s are targeted for irrelevance, cheated out of their due recognition and place of prominence on the front page, and that their posts are automatically consigned to oblivion, either by flagging, a dark Democratic Party conspiracy among the front pagers, or some other nefarious machinations by those in power. To disagree or offer constructive criticism is tantamount to insulting, belittling, or marginalizing the poster, who some might think was paranoid.
There are those who continually cry foul, yet they continue to post here regularly, even as they explain to us how the present crowd of bullies is vastly inferior to the past participants here. The question, IMHO, is why anyone would continue to post their opinions and campaign announcements here, even as they complain of the unfairness and boorishness of the regulars-who are regularly blamed for being Democratic apologists.
We are told that these folks “Shall not be silenced”, even as their diaries are posted and they inveigh against the unfairness of the very site which allows them to publish their material. If one dislikes the previous members of this community so much, of FDL and its perceived unfairness, of which we are accused ad nauseum, why would you continue to visit us and post your material? Surely you can find (or establish) a more amenable place to post, absent of those whom you so dislike. Or is it more entertaining to come here, co-opt posts with pronouncements irrelevant to the subject, insult us, and this forum?
I must be confused, please set me straight.



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Jason Rosenbaum, is that you? Did the revolving door bring you back to fdl once again?
I distinctly recall Occupying with you, nonplussed. Funny how us ‘previous members’ are the ones out in the streets fighting the incumbents for a better future…
Sometimes I wonder if 3rd party supporters even love America.
Speaking of conspiracy theories, I wonder why the David Seaton diary titled “There are still important differences between Republicans and Democrats” suddenly returning a “Page not Found” message?
I flagged it as inappropriate because he didn’t remove the Obama image at the top. Maybe others did as well.
That must be it.
I implied no such thing and I don’t believe this diary in anyway impugns anyone’s personal preference in their politics. Politics is a personal choice and one’s right. But it seems that opinions that do not align with their beliefs is cause for necessary name calling.
I merely attempt to convey the extent of the paranoia of these folks. The continual accusations made by some people here lately have passed the point of ridiculous.
To be unable to post without fearing that one’s words are being censored or “Disappeared” or that some people, aka “Democratic Operatives”, are flagging those posts out of spite or disagreement with the content. There are some who feel disagreement with their opinions is tantamount to being an “Obama Apologist”. To constantly attack the fairness of the site and the people who operate is childish and unseemly.
And I assure that I am not, nor have I ever been, Jason Rosenbaum!
Well said nonplussed. Recommended.
What Margret said!!!
How goes it Nonplussed?? Hope all is well with ya..
I’m 9/11 Truther and budding Socialist studying Marxism 101 here and other places. I’m on SSD w/ Huntington’s Disease. I’ve been here a couple years. More than a few people have made it clear they don’t agree too much with some things I’ve posted, but I’ve never had a problem posting anything I wanted to say. As horrible as 9/11 was, I don’t fixate on it because the 5000+ killed on 9/11 was pretty small compared to the death toll caused by Americans all over the Middle East.
Just yesterday, one of my posts, Masacchio’s(sorry if I misspelled that), and one by Wendy Davis got front-paged on MyFDL.
Nothing like that had happened on FDL in a very long time. None of us are Democratic Party apologists in any way, shape, or form. I found it refreshing.
To be fair, Democratic Party apologists had been front-paged on FDL for months, often with zero comments, while excellent writers such as Daveparts, WelshTerrier2, Michael Cavlan, Cmaukonen, and Wendy Davis sank very quickly no matter how many replies they received. At least that is my own, admittedly subjective, observation.
Something changed. Maybe. And now, I see this, Nonplussed.
I find it…interesting.
I have never accused FDL of censorship. I have never accused FDL of being a Democratic Party platform. Obviously, it’s not, for you are reading my post and if you know anything about me you know damned well that I am no Democrat. Yet here I am, in all my barbaric, socialistic splendor, and unbanned.
Nah. I don’t recall anyone with an ounce of sanity accusing FDL of censorship. Favoritism, maybe, but not censorship. If there really WAS censorship, I would not be allowed to post this, for I would have been banned long ago.
No, FDL is not censorious, unless you’re really nuts or obnoxious. Even Shooter242 is still allowed to post here, for reasons that passeth my understanding.
I like this site. I’m a socialist. And I feel free to post here. Did I say anything insulting about this forum just now?
(checking) No, I don’t think so. But tell me to vote for Obama because he is the Lesser of Two Evils and I’ll let you have it with both barrels.
And FDL won’t ban my comment.
And I think 9/11 Truthers are nuts. And I’m a Socialist.
Welcome, anyway.
I happen to be one who thinks that believing the official line on 9/11 simply is supported only by turning a blind eye to myriad facts and using ad hominem insults. If you begin to stray from the official line and accept that something other than the exact party line is the only possibility, then, believe it or not, you are getting into “truther” territory.
I say that to say that I have never been censored or disappeared, even when I posted on 9/11. Jane was very adamant that she did not want this to turn into a 9/11 site and I certainly accept that; there are sufficient other topics to occupy my interest. There have been some long and thoughtful diaries and comments written on 9/11, but that has never been the focus here. On several of the threads we have had some obvious trolls that have apparently been banned, but they were egregiously attempting to disrupt the thread. We did have one commenter erroneously banned and whose cause was courageously and firmly taken up by marsdragon and the commenter was reinstated. If this were a real dim party site, I would have been put out long ago, but I think that we can all speak out here, just not in ad hominem terms. Not every diary gets a comment, and the reasons are, I sure, as varied as the readership here.
F you you Fing F.
You n NP rawhk, diary highly rcc’d.
N again, to all the others, in my BEST New Yorkese:
F you, you effing f’s.
*G*
Then you could use a tutorial in how much abuse structural steel will actually withstand in the real world.
All the tools and equipment and piping used by the entire oil industry is all made from the exact same structural steel that the beams in World Trade Center were made of. The steel that makes the pipelines. The steel that’s used to drill for oil and gas. Steel pipes used in refineries. All the same as the steel beams the World Trade Center.
This is a video of the Piper Alpha platform disaster in the North Sea.
http://youtu.be/FWs_ShrOm6I
Look at the massive explosion there. A massive fireball that burned all night. Now look at how much of the drill platform was still standing the next morning. Structural steel buildings do not fall apart after being on fire for an hour. Never happened once before 9/11. Happened 3 times on 9/1. Hasn’t happened since 9/11.
If structural steel building really could fall apart after after being on fire for an hour, all these rich cowards would have immediately evacuated all those tall skyscraper offices they still owned. They’d all have ground floor offices if there was even the slimmest risk of another steel structure fire and collapse.
Jet fuel (which used to be called kerosene) doesn’t burn hot enough to alter the structural integrity of steel beams in a skyscrapers. Not by half.
Because it timed out most likely.
C’mon Flash, yer one of the good folks, don’t buy into this bs being pedaled by some wanna be greatly failed game changers who are bitter they don’t own and control FDL.
Yer better n that.
Here we go again…
Oh effing geebuz, it was a piece of shit piece of dribble.
Call it for what it was, hoss.
*G*
No quibbles over that . . . has this always been your FDL name?
nonplussed,
Well said and long overdue.
Ohio Dude . . .
I like your diaries, comments and thots for the most part.
We are likely politically close.
But hoss, Nonplussed has made his point, and done it genteel like and all nicey.
Let’s face it, there’s a group of folks (a few) who complain all rat shit about everything . . . n they have sucked in some others now with all the faux memes about censoring, banning, n all kinds of jive bullshit.
I would hope you would know these things and not fall victim to the jive spouted by failed game changer wanna be’s.
YOUR personal thots and convictions, have NOT been labeled by me or others I don’t think, as loon and insane, unlike the small cadre who wishes to take out the site and make it their own.
I sure hope we end up on the same side of this jive, you’d be a HUGE loss to Pro FDL and a waste of talent if you end up supporting the jive clique for their faux war on FDL and Mz. Hamsher.
Fuck ‘em. Nonplussed has it right, he’s just too nice about it.
Let’s call shit for what it is.
Harumph.
It was Adam503… (Portland Area Code). AdamPDX is my Twitter ID. Seems to now be what gets used most.
Who’s Side Are You ON Boys, Who’s Side Are You On!
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Sometimes Doc, ya gotta fight for truth, the right way, and justice.
It’s the ‘Merican Way, dude.
Pass the ammo and don’t spare the wadding.
*handsonhips*
N that’s a drop in the bucket of it all.
There’s more holes in the official version of 9/11 than there are in The Royal Albert Hall (see John Lennon/Beatles).
I’m not a truther, but Kennedy was not killed by Oswald, n King n Bobby K were not killed by loners.
Harumph, indeed, hoss.
Heh, you DID rankle more n a few I recall . . . likely ME for that matter.
Welcome back tho, on what you’ve passed here so far, I’m with ya.
My father had a PhD in Metallurgical Engineering from a Big 10 University. He was a manager in research lab for a mid-sized special alloys Steel corp mostly for the car and oil industry. I heard a lot about steel as a kid.
One would most certainly would not build the entire infrastructure of the oil and gas industry out of steel if handling those easily ignited gas/oil materials could make a steel pipe or steel beam melt and fall apart.
I wish was a little thicker skinned at times. I tend to bark back pretty quickly, and that not real helpful.